OneJ:


@mikeolu1: Education goes beyond paper qualification that U are rant about for your mischievous ends.

. Even if U get first degree or PhD, how U take better pass JWs who practice what they believe,preach & live by God's righteous standard? U are a being fraudulent & dishonest because what U put up here is half truth& distortion of facts.


Make I expose U small.
. U quote from few sentences in 1969 Awake, why U no copy & paste the entire pages of that topic where U lifted your quote? That is the real meaning of OBJECTIVITY.


Since U claim say U go to school & U no fit do like person wey go school, by being objective, your so called education has now proved to be useless to U & your society U live in.


ii) Also, How do U feel when U put up all these crap to malign Jehovah's name? Yet, U go to the Bible Study program at the kingdom hall& pretend U serve Jehovah while U hide what U really are & later come online to abuse JWs & insult Jehovah's name.
Your devious action amounts to COWARDICE & HYPOCRISY. To be frank, U are worse than Judas.


U dey quote 1969 Awake, just dey rant up & down, since then & now, 2018, the numbers of JWs in tertiary institutions are still sky high, increasing every year. Whatever each JW decide on this matter, it's their personal choice.
Why U dey drink malaquine for JW matter?


The current trend in the labour market is in incontrovertible proof that JWs are right to de-emphasize paper qualification. Now the global trend is tilted towards viable vocational skills ,that is what JWs place primary emphasis & importance which will make our people to be gainfully employed rather than cram & pass exam to grab paper qualification that can not guarantee your survival in an ever dynamic environment.
No one can be successful in any vocational skills education without critical thinking skills & ability.



Contrary to your crooked ways, every JW knows that we emphasize that he/she must copy the Beroean example in his decision making .... "for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind ,carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so" & "make sure of all things" Acts 17:11. 1 Thess5:21.


Your mumu done do.

Most people don't really understand what Christianity mean,to them it is just "my daddy's or mummy's religion". So when they come face to face with the TRUTH they become sceptical about the whole thing yet they want to continue been part of those running the race for life.2Timothy 4:1-5 Hebrew 12:1 Please let's just make a simple presentation of what Christianity is all about before them and leave them to decide whether the sower in Jesus' illustration has thrown his seed on rocky soil,thorns, along the path or on fine soil in their case! Luke 8:5-15

OneJ:


Mikeolu moniker is a Judas in sheepskin. He is a pretentious hypocritical coward who malign Jehovah's name online. Go through his posts & see for your self. Jah bless U my bro, TATIME..

Many indecisive ones that do attend our meetings don't grasp what Apostle Paul meant in his letter to our hebrew speaking brothers back then in the first century! Hebrew 10:24,25 They are thinking the encouragement is just mentioned in connection to the worldly view of life. Well if they come to us with their reasonings i believe we only need to answer them in a way that they will realize we are far wiser than they can imagine(1Peter 3:15) while we're remaining submissive to those taking the lead in TRUE Christianity. Hebrew 13:7,17 Agape my beloved brother OneJ

TATIME:
Many indecisive ones that do attend our meetings don't grasp what Apostle Paul meant in his letter to our hebrew speaking brothers back then in the first century! Hebrew 10:24,25 They are thinking the encouragement is just mentioned in connection to the worldly view of life. Well if they come to us with their reasonings i believe we only need to answer them in a way that they will realize we are far wiser than they can imagine(1Peter 3:15) while we're remaining submissive to those taking the lead in TRUE Christianity. Hebrew 13:7,17 Agape my beloved brother OneJ

I am not a JW neither do I intend to be.
My aim is to expose what is beneath the facade that the JW always present.

Most JW are very decent people who have been psychologically abused and browbeaten into believing what their leaders teach.

When you asked question, they attack the questioner rather than present a fact.
Over 24,000 ex members, including COs, elders, pioneers (some still presently members) and are helping many to escape this cult. (https://old.reddit.com/r/exjw/new/)

See Map of where thousands of struggling and ex Jws are: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1671590

TATIME:
WISDOM is "the practical application of accumulated information for lasting benefit " I'm not saying that basic education is worthless but spending all ones life in pursuit of a career that won't allow for the most important things in life is totally out of sense according to Jesus. John 21:15-19 That is why true Christians in the first century were charged to focus more on their Christian ministry because both the career seeker and others are clamouring for a fulfilled life "just to be happy". REAL Christians aren't happy when they're not able to declared the TRUE message of God's kingdom to others "no matter what they have or able to accumulate" moreover Jesus taught TRUE Christians never to store up treasures on earth! Matthew 6:19,20 A career seeker lost his life just because he was so entrenched in his career to the extent he saw the Messiah face to face and turned away from SALVATION! Mark 10:18-27 The "RICH" that Jesus was referring to in his statement never meant those who became rich by chance but those who believes and trusted so much in wealth! So how do you evaluate such attribute? It is simply those who will never allow anything to debar their progress in the disciple making work that Jesus commissioned, of course a career seeker must choose between his career and his Christian ministry( Luke 16:13)So TRUE Christians keep encouraging their children (whom they will like to see in God's kingdom)to desist from time consuming careers. Mark 4:19 Jehovah's Witnesses want their children to live a NONE materialistic simple lifestyle ( Matthew 6:22,23) that is why they won't support their children to be running after CAREERS just few things is enough to scale through this system of things. Thanks for your concern my friend,i just want you to know that we Jehovah's Witnesses are TRUE Christians and our lives are not built around material possession or CAREERS.(1John 2:15-17) God bless you!

When a young man decides to be a medical doctor, at graduation, he is benefiting many people including many JWs
When a lady becomes a teacher, she is sacrificing a lot to teach future generations including JWs
Same can be said for Pharmacists, Engineers, Geologists, Architects, on and on.

All these require at least 4 years of higher education.

It is beyond any sensibleness when a set of religious leaders use Jesus words to condemn these professionals.
Ironically, these same leaders go to see best specialists in US hospitals when they are sick. Very unconscionable. Highest level of hypocrisy.


In JW land, any young man or woman who wants to become a professional is wasting valuable time and will eventually become a drunk. Ha ba Watchtower!

The set of pictures below is what they fed to their members few weeks ago condemning higher education and anyone who work hard to become a professional. Watchtower 18 April p.11-12

mikeolu1:


When a young man decides to be a medical doctor, at graduation, he is benefiting many people including many JWs
When a lady becomes a teacher, she is sacrificing a lot to teach future generations including JWs
Same can be said for Pharmacists, Engineers, Geologists, Architects, on and on.

All these require at least 4 years of higher education.

It is beyond any sensibleness when a set of religious leaders use Jesus words to condemn these professionals.
Ironically, these same leaders go to see best specialists in US hospitals when they are sick. Very unconscionable. Highest level of hypocrisy.


In JW land, any young man or woman who wants to become a professional is wasting valuable time and will eventually become a drunk. Ha ba Watchtower!

The set of pictures below is what they fed to their members few weeks ago condemning higher education and anyone who work hard to become a professional. Watchtower 18 April p.11-12

My beloved Christian brother OneJ said it but i didn't take my time to notice your animosity against Jehovah's people. Sorry for disturbing you my friend, now i've gotten the message,first it was "child sex abuse" then "blood transfusion" and now "higher education"(Matthew 26:59-62)Please continue with these GOOD WORKS because there's a lot of goodies awaiting you for all these and in due season you shall reap what you're sowing if you do not tire out,retreat or surrender. Galatians 6:9 God bless you Sir

TATIME:
Most people don't really understand what Christianity mean,to them it is just "my daddy's or mummy's religion". So when they come face to face with the TRUTH they become sceptical about the whole thing yet they want to continue been part of those running the race for life.2Timothy 4:1-5 Hebrew 12:1 Please let's just make a simple presentation of what Christianity is all about before them and leave them to decide whether the sower in Jesus' illustration has thrown his seed on rocky soil,thorns, along the path or on fine soil in their case! Luke 8:5-15

Just the way you have decided to follow your parents religion. You know if you leave your parents religion you will be shunned. The things you condemn are the things you do. Hypocrite

TATIME:
My beloved Christian brother OneJ said it but i didn't take my time to notice your animosity against Jehovah's people. Sorry for disturbing you my friend, now i've gotten the message,first it was "child sex abuse" then "blood transfusion" and now "higher education"(Matthew 26:59-62)Please continue with these GOOD WORKS because there's a lot of goodies awaiting you for all these and in due season you shall reap what you're sowing if you do not tire out,retreat or surrender. Galatians 6:9 God bless you Sir

Putting in pictures how if you go to university and get a good job makes you a drunk?
Your leaders are really desperate for workers because they don't want to pay For labour.
How will you paint getting a higher education in bad light. That's wickedness. Why do you guys look at the negative aspects of things? Your religion is a sadistic one.

TATIME:
My beloved Christian brother OneJ said it but i didn't take my time to notice your animosity against Jehovah's people. Sorry for disturbing you my friend, now i've gotten the message,first it was "child sex abuse" then "blood transfusion" and now "higher education"(Matthew 26:59-62)Please continue with these GOOD WORKS because there's a lot of goodies awaiting you for all these and in due season you shall reap what you're sowing if you do not tire out,retreat or surrender. Galatians 6:9 God bless you Sir

Your style is clear to all.
It is that of a brainwashed follower who when asked why he takes an action replies with "I was told by the leader to do it"

Thousands are seeing through the JWs method, that's why the fold is decreasing and many young ones are leaving.

The method is time tested; leaders live in 5-Start-like luxury and followers support the lifestyle. JW leaders live in Warwick NY, have the best healthcare any american can dream of.

Many religious leaders have used this method but the JWs leader take it to a higher level. Families are destroyed when someone joins or decides to leave.

Now, many Nigerians are discouraged from attending universities so they can peddle watchtower and awake from door to door and stading behind carts.

Blessed is the deceiver, woe is the person deceived- a Yoruba adage says.


Here is a video of one of the JWs leader advising members who are attending universities to quit and that attending university is "lack of faith".
This is a cult of the highest caliber!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R4f9ygxDbk

TATIME:
If those citizens of Jericho had the opportunity you're having now,i tell you that NOTHING will enter their head not to accept whatever Jehovah's Witnesses are telling them! They were afraid just as you are now but they thought they could put up a form of resistance to thwart what Jehovah had in mind. So be warned my friend if you're feeling any threat that means your spirit is telling you exactly what those citizens of Jericho were feeling back then. Joshua 2:1-14 Your case is settled to me that's why i'm closing any further conversation with you MY FRIEND since it's obvious that you've known the TRUTH already you're just STUBBORNLY agitating against it.So i'll say once again Jehovah's judgement is fast approaching to SLAUGHTER all none JWs as you're feeling truthfully within you therefore report yourself to God's organization and allow them to help you or else you will perish at ARMAGEDDON(Zephaniah 2:2,3) So go and seek MEEKNESS MY FRIEND goodbye!

You will wait for Armageddon you go tire. You will die while waiting and nothing will happen. Mark my words

mikeolu1:


Your style is clear to all.
It is that of a brainwashed follower who when asked why he takes an action replies with "I was told by the leader to do it"

Thousands are seeing through the JWs method, that's why the fold is decreasing and many young ones are leaving.

The method is time tested; leaders live in 5-Start-like luxury and followers support the lifestyle. JW leaders live in Warwick NY, have the best healthcare any american can dream of.

Many religious leaders have used this method but the JWs leader take it to a higher level. Families are destroyed when someone joins or decides to leave.

Now, many Nigerians are discouraged from attending universities so they can peddle watchtower and awake from door to door and stading behind carts.

Blessed is the deceiver, woe is the person deceived- a Yoruba adage says.


Here is a video of one of the JWs leader advising members who are attending universities to quit and that attending university is "lack of faith".
This is a cult of the highest caliber!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R4f9ygxDbk

How market? The problem you're having is psychological my friend, you need to go back to that your highly revered university to study philosophy! Why? Because you failed to realise that humans are complex to study in nature. Let me educate you a little: (1) Some people focus on pleasures eg festivities,recreations and so on,there's nothing you achieve that can make them change their LOVE for PLEASURES. (2) Some on "showy display of their means of life" so their minds are focus on achieving everything even if it's of no lasting benefit to them, they can go to any length just to ACHIEVE. (3)Some live complicated lives that they have nothing to think they just wake up eat,sex and sleep,so you have to help them in planning to live a normal life. (4) Some people's heart are filled with gratitude so they're always thinking about how to say THANK YOU and this has had greater influence on their thoughts towards the CREATOR. The last mentioned are Jehovah's Witnesses by nature so no matter where they are presently they will still end up being Jehovah's Witnesses, whereas the others may happen to be born or somehow related to Jehovah's witnesses but as time goes on they will discover they don't belong here so they will leave. So no matter what you say to them a Jehovah's Witness will live and die as a JW,because our lives are focused on SHOWING APPRECIATION FOR OUR GOD not on "showy display" nor "pleasures" and not to be determined by others since they don't know who we are within. Hebrew 11:1,6

TATIME:
How market? The problem you're having is psychological my friend, you need to go back to that your highly revered university to study philosophy! Why? Because you failed to realise that humans are complex to study in nature. Let me educate you a little: (1) Some people focus on pleasures eg festivities,recreations and so on,there's nothing you achieve that can make them change their LOVE for PLEASURES. (2) Some on "showy display of their means of life" so their minds are focus on achieving everything even if it's of no lasting benefit to them, they can go to any length just to ACHIEVE. (3)Some live complicated lives that they have nothing to think they just wake up eat,sex and sleep,so you have to help them in planning to live a normal life. (4) Some people's heart are filled with gratitude so they're always thinking about how to say THANK YOU and this has had greater influence on their thoughts towards the CREATOR. The last mentioned are Jehovah's Witnesses by nature so no matter where they are presently they will still end up being Jehovah's Witnesses, whereas the others may happen to be born or somehow related to Jehovah's witnesses but as time goes on they will discover they don't belong here so they will leave. So no matter what you say to them a Jehovah's Witness will live and die as a JW,because our lives are focused on SHOWING APPRECIATION FOR OUR GOD not on "showy display" nor "pleasures" and not to be determined by others since they don't know who we are within. Hebrew 11:1,6

Why is it that your leaders always focus on the bad aspect of the necessary things you need in life?
All the evil things you listed about higher education just occurs in less than 1% that will ever attend.

They discourage people from going to university but they benefit from the services of people who get tertiary education. Hypocrites

Hairyrapunzel:


Why is it that your leaders always focus on the bad aspect of the necessary things you need in life?
All the evil things you listed about higher education just occurs in less than 1% that will ever attend.

They discourage people from going to university but they benefit from the services of people who get tertiary education. Hypocrites

WHY IS IT THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S PÀLAVA The other person has brains to understand what is happening but you're so obsessed that you just argue senselessly.

TATIME:
WHY IS IT THAT YOU'RE ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S PÀLAVA The other person has brains to understand what is happening but you're so obsessed that you just argue senselessly.

Why is it that your leaders are always worried about their members getting higher education?
I am just copying your leaders. Buhaha

Hairyrapunzel:


Why is it that your leaders are always worried about their members getting higher education?
I am just copying your leaders. Buhaha

I'm suspecting you're IBO because according to the history of Nigeria, they are the ONLY tribe having NO regards for headship and perhaps that's why other tribes are not ready to relinquish power to them in politics.Please listen to yourself "why is it that YOUR LEADERS are always worried abour THEIR members getting higher education?" Haba do you have working brains at all? For your information "they are OUR LEADERS" so you can't expert us to leave them and start listening to or following you! So think before you argue senselessly.

TATIME:
How market? :... The last mentioned are Jehovah's Witnesses by nature so no matter where they are presently they will still end up being Jehovah's Witnesses, whereas the others may happen to be born or somehow related to Jehovah's witnesses but as time goes on they will discover they don't belong here so they will leave. So no matter what you say to them a Jehovah's Witness will live and die as a JW,because our lives are focused on SHOWING APPRECIATION FOR OUR GOD ...

May be you dont know this, but there are more ex-witnesses than those who physically attend the congregations.

Among those who attend are hundreds of elders and bethelites who are physically in but mentally out. They just attend because they want to keep their families together.

Do you know that before the bodies of elders receive a letter from the governing body, that letter is already leaked on the internet? Those letters are being leaked from and by people very close to and at the top. That is what happens when people can not ask question or criticize religious leaders without being labelled as apostate with all the negatives attached to it.

Sit tight, as many are leaving. Average of 25/day join the www.reddit.com/r/exjw/ with about 25,000 courageous people who have snubbed the governing body and tell the GB to Bleep off.


By the way you can find all letters to Body of Elders here http://avoidjw.org/letters/ very well documented and cataloged, letters may include those your elders have not read in your congregation

mikeolu1:


May be you dont know this, but there are more ex-witnesses than those who physically attend the congregations.

Among those who attend are hundreds of elders and bethelites who are physically in but mentally out. They just attend because they want to keep their families together.

Do you know that before the bodies of elders receive a letter from the governing body, that letter is already leaked on the internet? Those letters are being leaked from and by people very close to and at the top. That is what happens when people can not ask question or criticize religious leaders without being labelled as apostate with all the negatives attached to it.

Sit tight, as many are leaving. Average of 25/day join the www.reddit.com/r/exjw/ with about 25,000 courageous people who have snubbed the governing body and tell the GB to Bleep off.


By the way you can find all letters to Body of Elders here http://avoidjw.org/letters/ very well documented and cataloged, letters may include those your elders have not read in your congregation

Matthew 24:12,13 "Because of the increase in LAWLESSNESS the love of the GREATER number(amongst true Christians) will grow cold,BUT THE ONE(TATIME) WHO HAS ENDURED TO THE END WILL BE SAVED" Helloooooo those are the utterances of JESUS! Sorry my friend,i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses that will remain no matter what happens i'm with the organization(body and soul) even if it remains just 8 or 9 persons i'll surely be one of them.

TATIME:
Matthew 24:12,13 "Because of the increase in LAWLESSNESS the love of the GREATER number(amongst true Christians) will grow cold,BUT THE ONE(TATIME) WHO HAS ENDURED TO THE END WILL BE SAVED" Helloooooo those are the utterances of JESUS! Sorry my friend,i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses that will remain no matter what happens i'm with the organization(body and soul) even if it remains just 8 or 9 persons i'll surely be one of them.

I bet there will be many more than 8 or 9 persons that will be left, afterall Al-Qaeda still have thousands of members.

However, remember that if you are not permitted to ask questions even though you see blatant errors in doctrines and organizational decisions, then you are not worshiping a god of freedom, you are in fact just a little better than domesticated animals

Watchtower 17.02 4:10-12 says "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction" .

No one dare ask, which mistakes have they made? How can they be directed by holy spirit and still err in doctrinal matter?

mikeolu1:


I bet there will be many more than 8 or 9 persons that will be left, afterall Al-Qaeda still have thousands of members.

However, remember that if you are not permitted to ask questions even though you see blatant errors in doctrines and organizational decisions, then you are not worshiping a god of freedom, you are in fact just a little better than domesticated animals

Watchtower 17.02 4:10-12 says "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction" .

No one dare ask, which mistakes have they made? How can they be directed by holy spirit and still err in doctrinal matter?

The spirit in you have tried my friend but it's a total failure! Comparing the most peaceful and harmless organization on earth to vicious killer group like Al~Qaeda. You still need to study the Bible all over again with someone like me as your conductor my friend,though i'm new in the organization and you may be a former member of the governing body but it's obvious you never got the wisdom needed to survive this wicked system,you only followed protocols to get to the office of oversight. Well let me educate you once more. INSPIRED prophets prior to our Christian era do err in doctrinal matters and organizational directions in the past{Numbers 12:1-8} perhaps you don't realise this fact and even the "BORN AGAIN" first century Christians as well erred in doctrinal matters and organizational directions too(Act 5:1-11) Notice that Moses whom God chose to give the directives on marriage married a MIDIANITE not an ISRAELITE and the Apostles tried to make every Christian live comfortably despite knowing what Jesus said concerning POVERTY in this system of things.(Mark 14:7) That was when God was DIRECTLY INSPIRING them to pen down information not to talk of now that God's son had said NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION(Revelations 22:18,19) God's faithful and discrete slave could err but that is not enough reason to turn your back on them,remember they're not PERFECT like Jesus who do correct Himself quickly before any IMPERFECT mortal like you and i could notice His mistake!(Matthew 27:46,Mark 14,36) Can't you see how a PERFECT son of God is doubting the presence of His all loving and caring heavenly father in times of trial? Or doubting if His all knowing heavenly father knows the best in every case? Don't you realise that if the faithful slave starts taking advices from every Dick and Harry in the PRETEXT of questioning there will be DISORDER? So true Christians were admonished by JESUS to ENDURE all things,even when those taking the lead erred in some ways or if they're not SO SURE of what is happening! What is of utmost importance to a REAL Christian is "whereever goes the Lamb and the 144,000,i'll follow" (Revelation 14:4) This is that time our LOVE for God will be tested to the full! 1Corinthians 13:4-13 So my friend you still need to study the Bible all over again with a well informed Christian just as i said earlier,take care!

@mikeolu1: The Bible is a big book that requires deep thoughts to grasp the messages even while studying it with a PERFECT instructor,counselor or teacher(John 6:65-69) As regards ERROR, both perfect and imperfect creatures do make mistakes but God who is directing HIS organization will not take it lightly with anyone who challenges the authority of those taking the lead NO MATTER WHAT. Jesus said "whatever those leading binds on earth will be bind in heaven and whatever they loosen on earth will be loosened in heaven" Matthew 16:19 Just look intently at Peter whom Jesus specifically directed such powerful words of authentication,(1) He allowed Satan to use him(Matthew 16:23) (2) He publicly denied Jesus three consecutive times( Matthew 26:69-75) (3) He spread a misconception that Apostle John will not die until Jesus returns(John 21:20-23)(4) AFTER BECOMING A BORN AGAIN this same Peter still cling to the old Jewish custom( Galatians 2:11-14) Despite all of these "WHATEVER(Peter)BINDS OR LOOSEN ON THIS EARTH,WILL BE BIND OR LOOSENED IN HEAVEN" That was why the Holy Spirit struck to death a CHRISTIAN couple that tried to deceive him,so think deeply about who will challenge or criticize his authority! If he erred and agreed with you that he erred to make a correction fine but if he disagrees NEVER you take a stand against Jehovah's anointed because Jehovah won't take it lightly with you,NO MATTER WHAT! 1Samuel 24:6 compared to 2Samuel 1:1-16 That is the history of those who worshipped Jehovah in ancient times so learn from them and stop criticizing JEHOVAH'S ANOINTED! Roman 15:4 I don't know you but i can sense that you're trying to correct some wrong impressions,however the God we're talking about here has HIS own principles and standards that MUST be adhered to STRICTLY! 2Samuel 6:6,7 Take care!

TATIME:
I'm suspecting you're IBO because according to the history of Nigeria, they are the ONLY tribe having NO regards for headship and perhaps that's why other tribes are not ready to relinquish power to them in politics.Please listen to yourself "why is it that YOUR LEADERS are always worried abour THEIR members getting higher education?" Haba do you have working brains at all? For your information "they are OUR LEADERS" so you can't expert us to leave them and start listening to or following you! So think before you argue senselessly.

Your leaders should stop telling lies about higher education. Leaders that lie are not leaders.
Your leaders say it is bad to head man made institutions yet they head a man made institution. You even recognize human heads. lol Hypocrites

Hairyrapunzel:


Your leaders should stop telling lies about higher education. Leaders that lie are not leaders.
Your leaders say it is bad to head man made institutions yet they head a man made institution. You even recognize human heads. lol Hypocrites

Hmmmmmmmm now i'm fully convinced that you're truly a bonafide son from that side of Nigeria! NO REGARDS FOR HEADSHIP. For your information whether you term it Lie,Cheat,Deceive,Swindle,Betray or call it WHATEVER you wish LEADERS will continue to lead THEIR OWN PEOPLE,as long as those under them agrees to remain in subjection to them for the sake of PEACE and ORDERLINESS. So go back home to help your people to understand this before coming out to say they want to appoint a LEADER from amongst them (who has no regards for HEADSHIP)to come and RULE over those who has high regards for HEADSHIP.

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmm now i'm fully convinced that you're truly a bonafide son from that side of Nigeria! NO REGARDS FOR HEADSHIP. For your information whether you term it Lie,Cheat,Deceive,Swindle,Betray or call it WHATEVER you wish LEADERS will continue to lead THEIR OWN PEOPLE,as long as those under them agrees to remain in subjection to them for the sake of PEACE and ORDERLINESS. So go back home to help your people to understand this before coming out to say they want to appoint a LEADER from amongst them (who has no regards for HEADSHIP)to come and RULE over those who has high regards for HEADSHIP.

I ain't a zombie/robot and I ain't a daft, dumb or slowpoke. Therefore, no leader of a group whether religious or social can ever deceive me about higher education. Any human being who appoints himself a leader can never lead me cos I am not a cultist.
How are your leaders different from book haram leaders that discourage higher education as a way to cleanse the earth?
The headship of your religion is a cult like one.

Your headship appointed themselves as heads, or the heads appointed people they like, or people who have met certain criteria they ( these your heads) set and your heads have forced you never to question them and that critical thinking is bad.

Me as I get sense reach, other humans like me will come and tell me god said they are my head when they appointed themselves o and tell me never to question any stupid thing/lie they tell me. No way. Like I said my brain was not for fancy as I did not have any brain defect as a child and also, I ain't a zombie/robot.

Since your respecting headship is obeying 8 old men in new York who say they are uninspired and infallible as they can err in doctrinal matters and organizational direction good for you.

No one can manipulate me. In order words, no one can compel me to join cult or belong to any high control group.

When did the interest in tribal politics start? Don't let your jehovah slaughter you in Armageddon o. You know he told your leaders that he doesn't like you having anything to do with politics o.

Lol. Funny religion. Because your leaders don't want you their followers to get involved in leader selection process. Lol

TATIME:
The spirit in you have tried my friend but it's a total failure! Comparing the most peaceful and harmless organization on earth to vicious killer group like Al~Qaeda. You still need to study the Bible all over again with someone like me as your conductor my friend,though i'm new in the organization and you may be a former member of the governing body but it's obvious you never got the wisdom needed to survive this wicked system,you only followed protocols to get to the office of oversight. Well let me educate you once more. INSPIRED prophets prior to our Christian era do err in doctrinal matters and organizational directions in the past{Numbers 12:1-8} perhaps you don't realise this fact and even the "BORN AGAIN" first century Christians as well erred in doctrinal matters and organizational directions too(Act 5:1-11) Notice that Moses whom God chose to give the directives on marriage married a MIDIANITE not an ISRAELITE and the Apostles tried to make every Christian live comfortably despite knowing what Jesus said concerning POVERTY in this system of things.(Mark 14:7) That was when God was DIRECTLY INSPIRING them to pen down information not to talk of now that God's son had said NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION(Revelations 22:18,19) God's faithful and discrete slave could err but that is not enough reason to turn your back on them,remember they're not PERFECT like Jesus who do correct Himself quickly before any IMPERFECT mortal like you and i could notice His mistake!(Matthew 27:46,Mark 14,36) Can't you see how a PERFECT son of God is doubting the presence of His all loving and caring heavenly father in times of trial? Or doubting if His all knowing heavenly father knows the best in every case? Don't you realise that if the faithful slave starts taking advices from every Dick and Harry in the PRETEXT of questioning there will be DISORDER? So true Christians were admonished by JESUS to ENDURE all things,even when those taking the lead erred in some ways or if they're not SO SURE of what is happening! What is of utmost importance to a REAL Christian is "whereever goes the Lamb and the 144,000,i'll follow" (Revelation 14:4) This is that time our LOVE for God will be tested to the full! 1Corinthians 13:4-13 So my friend you still need to study the Bible all over again with a well informed Christian just as i said earlier,take care!

Muddled verses to justify your non biblical doctrines. Mtcheww

Hairyrapunzel:


Muddled verses to justify your non biblical doctrines. Mtcheww

Mikeolu1 is the one whom i'm expecting to respond because he claims to be a Yoruba man and i know that their tribe have a high regard for HEADSHIP unlike your own people so case is settled. You're from the place where HEADSHIP has no meaning but i'll rather respond to a person from the tribe where HEADSHIP is regarded. Kachifonu

TATIME:
Mikeolu1 is the one whom i'm expecting to respond because he claims to be a Yoruba man and i know that their tribe have a high regard for HEADSHIP unlike your own people so case is settled. You're from the place where HEADSHIP has no meaning but i'll rather respond to a person from the tribe where HEADSHIP is regarded. Kachifonu

Since your definition of HEADSHIP is unquestioned obedience to some humans who reside in new York, good for you.

how will my head be people who I don't take part in their selection process? I no be zombie and I no be mumu.
So watchtower has now done experiment to know that Igbo's do not regard headship in Nigeria? Interesting. Lol

Hairyrapunzel:


Since your definition of HEADSHIP is unquestioned obedience to some humans who reside in new York, good for you.

how will my head be people who I don't take part in their selection process? I no be zombie and I no be mumu.
So watchtower has now done experiment to know that Igbo's do not regard headship in Nigeria? Interesting. Lol

Where you come from matters,that's why Apostle Paul wrote letters to different nationals and Jesus in Revelations addressed different churches due to their tribes and locations. So tribes and customs affected the Christian congregations in the first century too,if your tribe can't recognise headships then you'll certainly have problems with TRUE CHRISTIANITY! Please allow mikeolu1 to respond because it seems he's got something better to say than someone whose tribes don't even have any regard for papas and mamas talkless a king.

TATIME:
Where you come from matters,that's why Apostle Paul wrote letters to different nationals and Jesus in Revelations addressed different churches due to their tribes and locations. So tribes and customs affected the Christian congregations in the first century too,if your tribe can't recognise headships then you'll certainly have problems with TRUE CHRISTIANITY! Please allow mikeolu1 to respond because it seems he's got something better to say than someone whose tribes don't even have any regard for papas and mamas talkless a king.

So your gb are now kings? This is beginning to get more interesting. TRUE CHRISTIANITY THAT SELF APPOINTED LEADERS WHO ARE 8 IN NUMBER, ELDERLY AND RESIDE IN NEW YORK SAY YOU SHOULD UNQUESTIONABLY OBEY THEM. *SPITS OUT* TUFIAKWA* GOD FORBID

I love the tribe you gave me. We can't be fooled easily. Why did God created us with brains if he didn't want us to use it?

Hairyrapunzel:



So your gb are now kings? This is beginning to get more interesting. TRUE CHRISTIANITY THAT SELF APPOINTED LEADERS WHO ARE 8 IN NUMBER, ELDERLY AND RESIDE IN NEW YORK SAY YOU SHOULD UNQUESTIONABLY OBEY THEM. *SPITS OUT* TUFIAKWA* GOD FORBID

I love the tribe you gave me. We can't be fooled easily. Why did God created us with brains if he didn't want us to use it?

Spit out,Tufiakwa,God forbid all has nothing an in NOTHING to do with HEADSHIP.

TATIME:
@mikeolu1: The Bible is a big book that requires deep thoughts to grasp the messages even while studying it with a PERFECT instructor,counselor or teacher(John 6:65-69) As regards ERROR, both perfect and imperfect creatures do make mistakes but God who is directing HIS organization will not take it lightly with anyone who challenges the authority of those taking the lead NO MATTER WHAT. J!

So, can you mention 1 error your governing body have made?

Even when GB Geoffrey Jackson went in front of the Australian Royal Commission against child abuse, he was very inconsistent (they called that Lawyer Speak) he could not accept that errors were made in Jws handling of hundred of child abuse cases within the congregation.
Over 1000 cases of child abuse in Australia alone. Welcome to gods (self proclaimed) Organization!

Listen to his here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu6X1YU6YYI

TATIME:
Spit out,Tufiakwa,God forbid all has nothing an in NOTHING to do with HEADSHIP.

If your definition of headship is becoming a zombie or a robot, I no want. I love my tribe mehnnnn. Don't let it pain you too much. Woody I can't be part of your zombieism

mikeolu1:


So, can you mention 1 error your governing body have made?

Even when GB Geoffrey Jackson went in front of the Australian Royal Commission against child abuse, he was very inconsistent (they called that Lawyer Speak) he could not accept that errors were made in Jws handling of hundred of child abuse cases within the congregation.
Over 1000 cases of child abuse in Australia alone. Welcome to gods (self proclaimed) Organization!

Listen to his here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu6X1YU6YYI

Hmmmmmmm i expected you to address the issue of erring on doctrinal matters and organisational directions but instead you changed the subject to accusations against Jehovah's Witnesses in Australia.Matthew 10:18 Well let us reason together as intellectuals {Isaiah 1:18} Jackson a member of Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body is from America,the organization he represents has helped in turning all those who join them to harmless citizens in Australia, they will no more criticise their leaders,they will no more get involved in violence,they will no more carry weapons to rob neighbours,they will never again get involved in tribal conflicts and now This American came all the way to Australia to defend Australians before their own rulers because of ACCUSATIONS that is leveled against them by Australian authorities! If the police in Australia catches a pedophile they know what to do but now they are charging an American for helping them to create a peaceful environment on which their own citizens were able to solve delicate issues amicably without killing one another. Yet this same authorities are spending billions of dollars annually for the upkeep of law enforcement agencies only to maintain PEACE,whereas LOOK a man all the way from America is now standing in a court room because of their own people who have learnt to resolve issues within themselves without the use of armed FORCES Jesus said "they will bring you before kings and governors for my sake"Please o if Christians have decided to say WE DON'T NEED FORCEMEN IN OUR MIDST,WE CAN SETTLE ISSUES AMICABLY AMONGST OURSELVES"please is it not a thousand times better than those who would have turn this issue to WARS? Genesis 34:1-31 Funny enough this American has come all the way from America to say to the Australian authorities "sorry,we have helped you to teach these Australians how to handle cases without the use of guns and machetes" Luke 7:35 Hatred based on Jealousy and Envy can blur people's sense walahi.

@mikeolu1: I don't know how you're feeling about this but i think what should be of utmost concern to you now is how to survive this wicked system of things and not DEMANDING justice under an unjust system. If you must know,Jesus referred to all none Christians as DEAD! So instead of concentrating on how to punish a wrongdoer i suggest you should be more concerned about how you're going to resolve your own blunders before God! Christians are not interested in getting wrongdoers in jail,death by hanging or firing squad. Our motive is for "all SORT of people to be saved" Jesus told a thief who begged for mercy "i'm promising you today,you will be with me in Paradise" Haaaaaaaa PARADISE How will you view Jesus if you hear Him say such to an armed robber whose gang has come to rob you,take away your belongings,kill some of your relatives or forcefully rape your daughter or wife? Would you also look forward to seeing such an hardened criminals in Paradise like Jesus? You should if truly you're one of His followers. God bless you!