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Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m):
0balufonlll:
LOL I don laugh tire.
Post your ancestors oriki in Oranmiyan lineage, from Olofin descendants.. I swear on my ancestors grave, I will RUBBISH YOU
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m):
0balufonlll:
LOL I don laugh tire.
Mr. Know it all. Continue.
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 11:09pm On Sep 29, 2018
Olu317:
Omo IFA, why whine me? This area is supposedly known to you. Yoruba elders and their folklore have knowledge of Ijimere being half human, half inhuman because one of the myth is said to have been as a result of disobedience to Orunmila before it changed to half human and monkey like in nature .... Were the yoruba ancestors like the regular Africans? These people had scientific knowledge of evolution. Trust me, Yoruba were the chosen of God.
So how does Yoruba being chosen of God make Yoruba Hebrew

You see you are a criminal trying to destroy Yoruba integrity with religious nonsense
No real Yoruba will worship foreigners (jews) like this
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by MayorofLagos(m): 1:20am On Sep 30, 2018
Very interesting inputs. Absolutesuccess, I want to comment on your contribution. There are grades of proficiency in letter writing and style, the most coveted is the 'wordsmith" grade. Very few have earned the credit to be called wordsmith. You sir, are a grade above wordsmith. I bow in awe and honour to your intelligence and creativity. God bless you and increase your knowledge and well of inspiration. Amen!
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by MayorofLagos(m): 2:12am On Sep 30, 2018
I am not done talking, I did not want to mix appreciation for a man of honor with spits and venoms I intend to shoot in the direction of men who profess to be illuminated by classroom knowledge but are deficient on native intelligence and enlightenement....macof and this omo ibo oluochi, and all others in their bandwagon. This post is for them.

First I must visit on Olu's complain about those throwing Isese around on public forum. There is a good reason Yoruba myth and oral history, as well Odu Ifa is encrypted. It is because of people like these gangsters of barawos. Couple of years ago JayZ, the American rapper was throwing around some finger gesturing supposed to symbolize codes for initiates into Illuminati. grin Like wildfire, it spread around the universe and we started seeing all kind of merchandise depicting these gestures and the word "illuminati" became a household name....even on the lips of baboons. Baboon sef began to swag like a illuminati. grin Only if people knew.... First, Jayz will never ever be admitted into the Inner Temple. He does not possess the discipline required to be an errand boy of the Temple, much more to become a member in the cult. But to his fans, he is an illuminati already. This is how I see these Isese wannabes. Even that Omo ibo called olaochi says he is an initiate of Isese. Can you imagine? grin There must be two Iseses....the one for ogberis, which is the one these creeps belong to. I am yet to see a true Oluwo getting distracted and becoming self-conscious to throw his weight in Iledi around on the internet. Bloody creeps! I seriously suspect that macof is not Yoruba, a child born into Yorubaland and grew into the culture of Ife. Many people think Dele Momodu is Yoruba because of his adept knowledge of the language and the culture. I know for fact Oluochi is Ibo.

macof, you still owe me a scold, let me catch you offguard.... angry
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:18am On Sep 30, 2018
Oh k oo. Deal with the truth.
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m):
OlaoChi:
So how does Yoruba being chosen of God make Yoruba Hebrew

You see you are a criminal trying to destroy Yoruba integrity with religious nonsense
No real Yoruba will worship foreigners (jews) like this
You try to gain knowledge from me through cunningly method grin grin ? Anyway,I will mention ten (10) similarities peculiar to Yoruba and Hebrew through your question for the deep thinkers and well read to see , the reason, ‘The Yoruba' of today were the founding generation of ancient Hebrew, which have been studied and believed by Western researchers,even if they kept
mute over it.

Can you not see how these people reference Yoruba kings among dark skin Race? Below are some of the researched reasons .



1. The Yoruba are an offspring
of the group that once
resided in ‘Oorú'

The Hebrew ancestors once
lived in the land of ‘or',according
Archeological research through
Cuneiform, hieroglyphs, Assyrian tablets etc and biblical reference.


2. The Yoruba is a multiracial group
that fused as one because of
conscription through intermarriages
and acceptance of Yoruba Religion
(IFA). Thus, Yoruba claim
being the ancestors of all
mankind.(No proof because
it is on oral account that
became documented) cheesy


The Hebrew is multiracial group
that fused as one because of
conscription through intermarriages
and acceptance of Hebrew religion
that begun through (EPHOD). Thus
the biblical reference claim
that Abraham's descendants will
cover the whole world. (No proof
because it is on oral account that
became documented) cheesy



3. ‘PROSTRATE',is enshrined inYoruba
culture because it is the epitome of
respect display by a younger person
toward one's grandfather,grandmother,
father, or older ones.

*Kow tow in Chinese bending isn't
prostration)* grin so don't make
mockery of yourself.

The Hebrew acknowledged prostration
as a form of respect.Take for instance,
Judah,‘PROSTRATED' before his
grandfather Isaac, when he was
introduced by Israel (his own father)
Book of Jubilees 31:28


4. Highest Multiple ‘Twin birth' in the world
is found among the Yoruba people only.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that had the Highest Multiple Twin Birth
in the ancient times,according to the the,
white-Caucasian Historians.

5.The Yoruba, ‘élé-Édà' and ,èlè-Odùmáàrè
are prefix to the name of Almighty


The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that used ‘Èl', to acknowledge their God


6. The Yoruba almighty Èlèdúùmàrè history
is eternal , who has no wife or rival because Èlèdúùmàrè is not seen as a man

The Ancient Hebrew ‘El' is eternal and has
no wife nor rival because the belief is that
God is never seen as a man. And it was
used as a prefix to his name. For
example, Èl-shad



7. The Yoruba tradition acknowledge even
both patrilineal and matrilineal side of the
family.

The Ancient Hebrew acknowledged both
patrilineal and matrilineal side of the family

8. The Yoruba word, ‘Édá' convey deeper
meaning for human because, it is heavily
enshrined in ORI CONCEPT. And this
word is scarcely used for humans. Instead
yoruba often use èníyán for humans.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
referred as EDA in the ancient times.

9. The Yoruba word, ‘Àdìrè' is a term
use for a woven cloth with pattern.


The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that had a woven cloth called Àdéreth'


10. The Yoruba were the only group
that refers to the light of day/sunlight
as,‘Orún'.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that referred to Sunlight as, ‘ Or'.





This is just a tip of the iceberg because, I have
more proof than these. Believe me, you are the
FRAUD because YOU HAVE NO ORIKI,and on
a wrong chase. grin grin Continue to disgrace yourself
over what is beyond You.
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:25am On Sep 30, 2018
MayorofLagos:
I am not done talking, I did not want to mix appreciation for a man of honor with spits and venoms I intend to shoot in the direction of men who profess to be illuminated by classroom knowledge but are deficient on native intelligence and enlightenement....macof and this omo ibo oluochi, and all others in their bandwagon. This post is for them.

First I must visit on Olu's complain about those throwing Isese around on public forum. There is a good reason Yoruba myth and oral history, as well Odu Ifa is encrypted. It is because of people like these gangsters of barawos. Couple of years ago JayZ, the American rapper was throwing around some finger gesturing supposed to symbolize codes for initiates into Illuminati. grin Like wildfire, it spread around the universe and we started seeing all kind of merchandise depicting these gestures and the word "illuminati" became a household name....even on the lips of baboons. Baboon sef began to swag like a illuminati. grin Only if people knew.... First, Jayz will never ever be admitted into the Inner Temple. He does not possess the discipline required to be an errand boy of the Temple, much more to become a member in the cult. But to his fans, he is an illuminati already. This is how I see these Isese wannabes. Even that Omo ibo called olaochi says he is an initiate of Isese. Can you imagine? grin There must be two Iseses....the one for ogberis, which is the one these creeps belong to. I am yet to see a true Oluwo getting distracted and becoming self-conscious to throw his weight in Iledi around on the internet. Bloody creeps! I seriously suspect that macof is not Yoruba, a child born into Yorubaland and grew into the culture of Ife. Many people think Dele Momodu is Yoruba because of his adept knowledge of the language and the culture. I know for fact Oluochi is Ibo.

macof, you still owe me a scold, let me catch you offguard.... angry
Sir, take it easy oooo. Omo kekere ni nsè won.
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m):
Obalufon:
bro ..i need more information on monkey story by your friend absolute.. he real makes lots of sense with the yoruba Hebrew connection . but there are little flaws on his long write up.. Esu is not devil there is nothing devil in ife or yoruba tradition. and the story of gbo too
..
Hmmmm Bárá l’ àbélékún súnkún kí érúu o bá élékún . Bí élékún bá n súkún, Láàroyè à má sún éjé. A lot on this diety has been said as he is referred as a service renderer to whoever call upon him through the necessary sacrifice and the consent of Èlèdúùmàrè.
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 8:16am On Sep 30, 2018
MayorofLagos:
I am not done talking, I did not want to mix appreciation for a man of honor with spits and venoms I intend to shoot in the direction of men who profess to be illuminated by classroom knowledge but are deficient on native intelligence and enlightenement....macof and this omo ibo oluochi, and all others in their bandwagon. This post is for them.

First I must visit on Olu's complain about those throwing Isese around on public forum. There is a good reason Yoruba myth and oral history, as well Odu Ifa is encrypted. It is because of people like these gangsters of barawos. Couple of years ago JayZ, the American rapper was throwing around some finger gesturing supposed to symbolize codes for initiates into Illuminati. grin Like wildfire, it spread around the universe and we started seeing all kind of merchandise depicting these gestures and the word "illuminati" became a household name....even on the lips of baboons. Baboon sef began to swag like a illuminati. grin Only if people knew.... First, Jayz will never ever be admitted into the Inner Temple. He does not possess the discipline required to be an errand boy of the Temple, much more to become a member in the cult. But to his fans, he is an illuminati already. This is how I see these Isese wannabes. Even that Omo ibo called olaochi says he is an initiate of Isese. Can you imagine? grin There must be two Iseses....the one for ogberis, which is the one these creeps belong to. I am yet to see a true Oluwo getting distracted and becoming self-conscious to throw his weight in Iledi around on the internet. Bloody creeps! I seriously suspect that macof is not Yoruba, a child born into Yorubaland and grew into the culture of Ife. Many people think Dele Momodu is Yoruba because of his adept knowledge of the language and the culture. I know for fact Oluochi is Ibo.

macof, you still owe me a scold, let me catch you offguard.... angry
.
Show me where I said I'm initiated to Iṣẹṣe

And i am more Yoruba than your father tongue

Which native intelligence do you have? grin it's native intelligence that told you Yoruba are Hebrews?
All this criminals dragging Yoruba to the mud
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 8:19am On Sep 30, 2018
Olu317:
Sir, take it easy oooo. Omo kekere ni nsè won.
Shut up you fraud

Ọmọ kékeré wo? You simply lack any form of education, either academic or traditional claiming to be some yoruba guru with your inventive history
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 8:22am On Sep 30, 2018
Olu317:
You try to gain knowledge from me through cunningly method grin grin ? Anyway,I will mention ten (10) similarities peculiar to Yoruba and Hebrew through your question for the deep thinkers and well read to see , the reason, ‘The Yoruba' of today were the founding generation of ancient Hebrew, which have been studied and believed by Western researchers,even if they kept
mute over it.

Can you not see how these people reference Yoruba kings among dark skin Race? Below are some of the researched reasons .



1. The Yoruba are an offspring
of the group that once
resided in ‘Oorú'

The Hebrew ancestors once
lived in the land of ‘or',according
Archeological research through
Cuneiform, hieroglyphs, Assyrian tablets etc and biblical reference.


2. The Yoruba is a multiracial group
that fused as one because of
conscription through intermarriages
and acceptance of Yoruba Religion
(IFA).

The Hebrew is multiracial group
that fused as one because of
conscription through intermarriages
and acceptance of Hebrew religion
that begun through (EPHOD).


3. ‘PROSTRATE',is enshrined inYoruba
culture because it is the epitome of
respect for grandfather,grandmother,
father,older ones by younger etc.
(Kow tow in Chinese bending isn't
prostration) grin

The Hebrew acknowledged prostration
as a form of respect.Take for instance,
Judah,‘PROSTRATED' before his
grandfather Isaac, when he was
introduced by Israel (his own father)
Book of Jubilees 31:28

4. Highest Multiple ‘Twin birth' in the world
is found among the Yoruba people only.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that had the Highest Multiple Twin Birth
in the ancient times,according to the the,
white-Caucasian Historians.

5.The Yoruba, ‘élé' and ,èlè are prefix to the name
of Almighty God . Examples, Élédáà,
Èlèdùmáàrè.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that used ‘Èl', to acknowledge their God

6. The Yoruba almighty Èlèdúùmàrè history
is eternal , who has no wife or rival because Èlèdúùmàrè is not seen as a man

The Ancient Hebrew ‘El' is eternal and has
no wife nor rival because the belief is that
God is never seen as a man.

7. The Yoruba tradition acknowledge even
both patrilineal and matrilineal side of the
family.

The Ancient Hebrew acknowledged both
patrilineal and matrilineal side of the family

8. The Yoruba word, ‘Édá' convey deeper
meaning for human because, it is heavily
enshrined in ORI CONCEPT. And this
word is scarcely used for humans. Instead
yoruba often use èníyán for humans.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
referred as EDA in the ancient times.

9. The Yoruba word, ‘Àdirè' is a term
use for a woven cloth with pattern.


The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that had a woven cloth called Àderéth'

10. The Yoruba were the only group
that refers to the light of day/sunlight
as,‘Orún'.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that referred to Sunlight as, ‘ Or'.





This is just a tip of the iceberg because, I have
more proof than these. Believe me, you are on
a wrong chase. grin grin
grin grin grin grin
He calls this gibberish knowledge

Have you forgotten how Yoruba have more in common with Japanese and Anglo-Saxons than Hebrew? You want me to show you again and expose your fraud one more time?

Only you by yourself came up with this, no evidence no source, picking things out of context without understanding
That's what you get when your parents didn't struggle well for you, you resort to fraud last last
But this hustle just miss road grin
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m):
Just imagine this crap up? IN LIGUISTIC, it is called ‘COGNATES' . as far as I am trained, I won't stoop low as Omo Ibo like you(olachi)who can't differentiate between myth and facts.So also have no respect for his ancestors or parents .... Mind you,I have met some Ibos with great attitude but yours? Extremely shameful grin grin. If I can make these things up, then, dread me like your ancestors dreaded my ancestors. But did I also made the below's screenshot up? grin


I thank God, because I have something great in the offing, what exactly is your purpose in life grin cheesy ? . Funny enough, you and many household shall shamelessly purchase it grin because you want to know what you have never come across in your lifetime.So wait for it.

A retard is known by his/her action but unfortunately, this is a faceless forum. So, say I, that a ‘retard grandeur' is known by his or her senseless post sent online. grin

Interested in learning ? So as to get a grip. Read the this book as a beginner :


1. HEBREW LIFE AND CUSTOM. grin grin

Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 9:08am On Sep 30, 2018
Olu317:
Just imagine this crap up? I won't stoop low as Omo Ibo like you(olachi)who can't differentiate between myth and facts.... grin grin. If I can make these things up, then, dread me like your ancestors dreaded my ancestors.


I thank God, because I have something great in the offing, what exactly is your purpose in life grin cheesy ? . Funny enough, you and many household shall shamelessly purchase it grin because you want to know what you have never come across in your lifetime.So wait for it.

A retard is known by his/her action but unfortunately, this is a faceless forum. So, say I, that a ‘retard grandeur' is known by his or her senseless post sent online. grin

Interested in learning ? So as to get a grip. Read the this book as a beginner :


1. HEBREW LIFE AND CUSTOM. grin grin
grin while thousands of students annually are learning Yoruba history and how Yoruba is a native African civilization
It is one unemployed guy who didn't pass jamb that wants to tell professors of history and anthropology that they are wrong grin

If this things you post here are what you have in the book, even your dunce friends here won't buy it grin
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:20am On Sep 30, 2018
OlaoChi:
grin while thousands of students annually are learning Yoruba history and how Yoruba is a native African civilization
It is one unemployed guy who didn't pass jamb that wants to tell professors of history and anthropology that they are wrong grin

If this things you post here are what you have in the book, even your dunce friends here won't buy it grin
bien vas périr. grin grin parce que t'es non pertinent..... grin grin


Assignment for you a, ‘fou à lier ' grin grin grin
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 10:01am On Sep 30, 2018
Olu317:
bien vas périr. grin grin parce que t'es non pertinent..... grin grin


Assignment for you a, ‘fou à lier ' grin grin grin
Nobody speaks French here, why not speak Hebrew for us
You are Hebrew right? grin
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon:
Olu317:
Hmmmm Èsù láàlú ogíríoko! À l'omi lè f'éjé wé. A lot on this diety has been said as he is referred as a service renderer to whoever call upon him through the necessary sacrifice and the consent of Èlèdúùmàrè.
Olu is esu devil?.. Please Esu is not Devil nothing like devil or Satan in yoruba tradition ..Are you a christian? ..Esu is the medium between Almighty God and man.. he curtails our excesses .
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m):
Obalufon:
Olu is esu devil?.. Please Esu is not Devil nothing like devil or Satan in yoruba tradition ..Are you a christian? ..Esu is the medium between Almighty God and man.. he contains our excesses .
No.... And I had answered you in my previous post on the work of Èsù from my understanding as regards his duty .But I have some questions. So please,answer the following questions.


1.Who exactly is Èsù?

2. Yoruba elders says, t' ìbí t'íré ní Àdà ìlè Àyè. Whose saying was it in IFA corpus ?

3. This saying came forth in 1st plural pronoun ‘À' ,which is,‘WE' in English translation,so who were creators of Àyè that mention, the ‘good' and ‘bad' forces ?

4. As you have seen me done, I want you to explain what this saying on Èsù, ; Bárá l’ àb'élékún súnkún kí érú o bá élékún . Bí élékún bá n súnkún, Láàroyé à mà sún éjé'.

5. Do you know Èsù, Eksum, Heasu(Easu) appeared in some other people's culture in Middle East and European culture?

As you know, we are sharing knowledge,so as to understand some aspects of our darling YORUBA culture, which has a vacuum, that needed to be filled.But as it seems, thw shocking CONSERVATIVE, especially the ones that lack the pedigree to cohabit with other people's different views that's based on research work can't tolerate the truth. Yet these set of people can't defend Our ancestors very well when EDO CLAIM ODU'A AS their own Igodo descendant? grin *What an Irony*

ONLY SONS WILL DEFEND HIS FATHER'S RIGHT. AS YOU HAD SEEN OTHERS AND I have done so vividly.





lastly I wait to read from your depth .
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by bluke(m): 7:21pm On Sep 30, 2018
MayorofLagos:
I am not done talking, I did not want to mix appreciation for a man of honor with spits and venoms I intend to shoot in the direction of men who profess to be illuminated by classroom knowledge but are deficient on native intelligence and enlightenement....macof and this omo ibo oluochi, and all others in their bandwagon. This post is for them.

First I must visit on Olu's complain about those throwing Isese around on public forum. There is a good reason Yoruba myth and oral history, as well Odu Ifa is encrypted. It is because of people like these gangsters of barawos. Couple of years ago JayZ, the American rapper was throwing around some finger gesturing supposed to symbolize codes for initiates into Illuminati. grin Like wildfire, it spread around the universe and we started seeing all kind of merchandise depicting these gestures and the word "illuminati" became a household name....even on the lips of baboons. Baboon sef began to swag like a illuminati. grin Only if people knew.... First, Jayz will never ever be admitted into the Inner Temple. He does not possess the discipline required to be an errand boy of the Temple, much more to become a member in the cult. But to his fans, he is an illuminati already. This is how I see these Isese wannabes. Even that Omo ibo called olaochi says he is an initiate of Isese. Can you imagine? grin There must be two Iseses....the one for ogberis, which is the one these creeps belong to. I am yet to see a true Oluwo getting distracted and becoming self-conscious to throw his weight in Iledi around on the internet. Bloody creeps! I seriously suspect that macof is not Yoruba, a child born into Yorubaland and grew into the culture of Ife. Many people think Dele Momodu is Yoruba because of his adept knowledge of the language and the culture. I know for fact Oluochi is Ibo.

macof, you still owe me a scold, let me catch you offguard.... angry
i think dele momodu studied yoruba, he must have learnt some verses from some babas
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 8:15pm On Sep 30, 2018
Olu317:
No.... And I had answered you in my previous post on the work of Èsù from my understanding as regards his duty .But I have some questions. So please,answer the following questions.


1.Who exactly is Èsù?

2. Yoruba elders says, 1. t' ìbí t'íré ní Àdà ìlè Àyè. Whose saying was it in IFA corpus ?

3. This saying came forth in 1st plural pronoun ‘À' ,which is,‘WE' in English translation,so who were creators of Àyè that mention, the ‘good' and ‘bad' forces ?

4. As you have seen me done, I want you to explain what this saying 2. on Èsù, ; ‘À l'omi nílè f'èjè wè'

5. 3. Do you know Èsù, Eksum, Heasu(Easu) appeared in some other people's culture in Middle East and European culture?

As you know, we are sharing knowledge,so as to understand some aspects of our darling YORUBA culture, which has a vacuum, that needed to be filled.But as it seems, thw shocking CONSERVATIVE, especially the ones that lack the pedigree to cohabit with other people's different views that's based on research work can't tolerate the truth. Yet these set of people can't defend Our ancestors very well when EDO CLAIM ODU'A AS their own Igodo descendant? grin *What an Irony*

ONLY SONS WILL DEFEND HIS FATHER'S RIGHT. AS YOU HAD SEEN OTHERS AND I have done so vividly.





lastly I wait to read from your depth .
1. Wrong accents marks for most of what is written there. You don't seem to speak Yoruba fluently? As I still remember you couldn't tell the difference between "ìlú" and "ìlù"

T'ibì T'ire ni à da ilẹ̀ Ayé
That is the right way to write what you were trying to say.

2. "Àlominílé f'ẹjẹ wẹ" is an oriki of Ogun not Esu

3. Esu - the man - was from Ketu. All traditions around Esu revolves around Ketu, with Oyo recording his presence among them at some time
He had no presence in places like Ife, reason Esu has no signicant following in central and Eastern Yoruba towns
If Esu traveled as far as the middle east, I think Yorubas would know that
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 8:41pm On Sep 30, 2018
And you are still going back to posts you've already replied before without addressing the points raised twice.. I've told you to get help, you are not mentally stable @absolutesuccess. Address my post if you want to, or ignore the post. Not mentioning me every 3 days to get my attention


running around trolling again, still nothing better to do with your life? @MayorofLagos?
You should be learning Yoruba history from my posts
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 8:54pm On Sep 30, 2018
macof:
1. Wrong accents marks for most of what is written there. You don't seem to speak Yoruba fluently? As I still remember you couldn't tell the difference between "ìlú" and "ìlù"

T'ibì T'ire ni à da ilẹ̀ Ayé
That is the right way to write what you were trying to say.

2. "Àlominílé f'ẹjẹ wẹ" is an oriki of Ogun not Esu

3. Esu - the man - was from Ketu. All traditions around Esu revolves around Ketu, with Oyo recording his presence among them at some time
He had no presence in places like Ife, reason Esu has no signicant following in central and Eastern Yoruba towns
If Esu traveled as far as the middle east, I think Yorubas would know that
what are you saying macof Esu had no presence in Ile ife
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 9:22pm On Sep 30, 2018
Obalufon:
what are you saying macof Esu had no presence in Ile ife
. Like I said, Esu - the man
Historically, at least not that I know of, Esu did not live in Ife
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 9:48pm On Sep 30, 2018
macof:
. Like I said, Esu - the man
Historically, at least not that I know of, Esu did not live in Ife
Do you know the significant of Esu in yoruba tradition? atleast you would have seen sacrifices at T junction before ..Esu convey any ritual or prayers to God..Esu is the driving force of our tradition
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 9:55pm On Sep 30, 2018
macof:
. Like I said, Esu - the man
Historically, at least not that I know of, Esu did not live in Ife
All the irumoles (Angels) landed in ile -IFE they all lived in IFE before creation of man
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 10:04pm On Sep 30, 2018
Obalufon:
All the irumoles (Angels) landed in ile -IFE they all lived in IFE before creation of man
Yes all the Irunmole did land in Ifè..that's part of Yoruba traditions as regards Spirituality

But I'm talking History, that is why I said Esu - the man

If you read my post to @hayoholla you will say how I explained the duality of Characters in Yoruba traditions, each Orisa is both spiritual/mythical and Historical/physical.. They have two sides
Same Esu who was the 9th Alaketu of Ketu(historically) is said to be a son of Osun and Orunmila(mythically /spiritually)

Btw Irunmole are not Angels, very different concepts, let's leave Asian concepts to the Asians
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 10:17pm On Sep 30, 2018
Obalufon:
Do you know the significant of Esu in yoruba tradition? atleast you would have seen sacrifices at T junction before ..Esu convey any ritual or prayers to God..Esu is the driving force of our tradition
Yes, I'm well aware of Esu and his significance in areas where he is significant.. Not the entire length and breath of Yorubaland
In Ifè, Esu's role is mainly taken up by Oluorogbo
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 10:29pm On Sep 30, 2018
macof:
Yes, I'm well aware of Esu and his significance in areas where he is significant.. Not the entire length and breath of Yorubaland
In Ifè, Esu's role is mainly taken up by Oluorogbo
what is the significant of esu in ifa tradition ?
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 10:47pm On Sep 30, 2018
macof:
Yes all the Irunmole did land in Ifè..that's part of Yoruba traditions as regards Spirituality

But I'm talking History, that is why I said Esu - the man

If you read my post to @hayoholla you will say how I explained the duality of Characters in Yoruba traditions, each Orisa is both spiritual/mythical and Historical/physical.. They have two sides
Same Esu who was the 9th Alaketu of Ketu(historically) is said to be a son of Osun and Orunmila(mythically /spiritually)

Btw Irunmole are not Angels, very different concepts, let's leave Asian concepts to the Asians
Esu the physical is not the esu the irumole .. what is the meaning of irumole in English,,irumole are messengers of God. forces of nature that we can tap in and make use of
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon:
as jesus is the medium God and man in Christianity .likewise .Esu too is the medium between God and man in our tradition
Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 5:31am On Oct 01, 2018
macof:
1. Wrong accents marks for most of what is written there. You don't seem to speak Yoruba fluently? As I still remember you couldn't tell the difference between "ìlú" and "ìlù"

T'ibì T'ire ni à da ilẹ̀ Ayé
That is the right way to write what you were trying to say.

2. "Àlominílé f'ẹjẹ wẹ" is an oriki of Ogun not Esu

3. Esu - the man - was from Ketu. All traditions around Esu revolves around Ketu, with Oyo recording his presence among them at some time
He had no presence in places like Ife, reason Esu has no signicant following in central and Eastern Yoruba towns
If Esu traveled as far as the middle east, I think Yorubas would know that
T('i)b(ì) T('i)r(e) n(i) à d(a) ilẹ̀ (A)y(é)-è

The letters in bracket aren't accented properly. accents on Yoruba languagewere shaped through French pronunciation. Though, it doesn't mean Yoruba language aren't filled with accents when pronounced.
And trust me, I have idea on French words and her pronunciation form. So, don't dare me.


2. Bárá l’ àb'élékún súnkún kí érú o bá élékún . Bí élékún bá n súnkún, Láàroyé à mà sún éjé'.(*edited*)

* I had edited it earlier but anti-spam Bot on NL can be a bit challenging *

3. Èsù Oníbodè, I know isn't from Kètú. Can you give, how that came to be? Although, ancient Yoruba names had Èsù, as a prefix to their names.
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