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| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:44pm On Sep 29, 2018*. Modified: 10:13am On Sep 30, 2018 |
0balufonlll:Post your ancestors oriki in Oranmiyan lineage, from Olofin descendants.. I swear on my ancestors grave, I will RUBBISH YOU |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:47pm On Sep 29, 2018*. Modified: 6:27am On Oct 12, 2018 |
0balufonlll:Mr. Know it all. Continue. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 11:09pm On Sep 29, 2018 |
Olu317:So how does Yoruba being chosen of God make Yoruba Hebrew You see you are a criminal trying to destroy Yoruba integrity with religious nonsense No real Yoruba will worship foreigners (jews) like this |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by MayorofLagos(m): 1:20am On Sep 30, 2018 |
Very interesting inputs. Absolutesuccess, I want to comment on your contribution. There are grades of proficiency in letter writing and style, the most coveted is the 'wordsmith" grade. Very few have earned the credit to be called wordsmith. You sir, are a grade above wordsmith. I bow in awe and honour to your intelligence and creativity. God bless you and increase your knowledge and well of inspiration. Amen! |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by MayorofLagos(m): 2:12am On Sep 30, 2018 |
I am not done talking, I did not want to mix appreciation for a man of honor with spits and venoms I intend to shoot in the direction of men who profess to be illuminated by classroom knowledge but are deficient on native intelligence and enlightenement....macof and this omo ibo oluochi, and all others in their bandwagon. This post is for them. First I must visit on Olu's complain about those throwing Isese around on public forum. There is a good reason Yoruba myth and oral history, as well Odu Ifa is encrypted. It is because of people like these gangsters of barawos. Couple of years ago JayZ, the American rapper was throwing around some finger gesturing supposed to symbolize codes for initiates into Illuminati. Like wildfire, it spread around the universe and we started seeing all kind of merchandise depicting these gestures and the word "illuminati" became a household name....even on the lips of baboons. Baboon sef began to swag like a illuminati. Only if people knew.... First, Jayz will never ever be admitted into the Inner Temple. He does not possess the discipline required to be an errand boy of the Temple, much more to become a member in the cult. But to his fans, he is an illuminati already. This is how I see these Isese wannabes. Even that Omo ibo called olaochi says he is an initiate of Isese. Can you imagine? There must be two Iseses....the one for ogberis, which is the one these creeps belong to. I am yet to see a true Oluwo getting distracted and becoming self-conscious to throw his weight in Iledi around on the internet. Bloody creeps! I seriously suspect that macof is not Yoruba, a child born into Yorubaland and grew into the culture of Ife. Many people think Dele Momodu is Yoruba because of his adept knowledge of the language and the culture. I know for fact Oluochi is Ibo. macof, you still owe me a scold, let me catch you offguard.... ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:18am On Sep 30, 2018 |
Oh k oo. Deal with the truth. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:19am On Sep 30, 2018*. Modified: 8:19pm On Oct 02, 2018 |
OlaoChi:You try to gain knowledge from me through cunningly method ? Anyway,I will mention ten (10) similarities peculiar to Yoruba and Hebrew through your question for the deep thinkers and well read to see , the reason, ‘The Yoruba' of today were the founding generation of ancient Hebrew, which have been studied and believed by Western researchers,even if they kept mute over it. Can you not see how these people reference Yoruba kings among dark skin Race? Below are some of the researched reasons . 1. The Yoruba are an offspring of the group that once resided in ‘Oorú' The Hebrew ancestors once lived in the land of ‘or',according Archeological research through Cuneiform, hieroglyphs, Assyrian tablets etc and biblical reference. 2. The Yoruba is a multiracial group that fused as one because of conscription through intermarriages and acceptance of Yoruba Religion (IFA). Thus, Yoruba claim being the ancestors of all mankind.(No proof because it is on oral account that became documented) ![]() The Hebrew is multiracial group that fused as one because of conscription through intermarriages and acceptance of Hebrew religion that begun through (EPHOD). Thus the biblical reference claim that Abraham's descendants will cover the whole world. (No proof because it is on oral account that became documented) ![]() 3. ‘PROSTRATE',is enshrined inYoruba culture because it is the epitome of respect display by a younger person toward one's grandfather,grandmother, father, or older ones. *Kow tow in Chinese bending isn't prostration)* so don't make mockery of yourself. The Hebrew acknowledged prostration as a form of respect.Take for instance, Judah,‘PROSTRATED' before his grandfather Isaac, when he was introduced by Israel (his own father) Book of Jubilees 31:28 4. Highest Multiple ‘Twin birth' in the world is found among the Yoruba people only. The Ancient Hebrew were the only group that had the Highest Multiple Twin Birth in the ancient times,according to the the, white-Caucasian Historians. 5.The Yoruba, ‘élé-Édà' and ,èlè-Odùmáàrè are prefix to the name of Almighty The Ancient Hebrew were the only group that used ‘Èl', to acknowledge their God 6. The Yoruba almighty Èlèdúùmàrè history is eternal , who has no wife or rival because Èlèdúùmàrè is not seen as a man The Ancient Hebrew ‘El' is eternal and has no wife nor rival because the belief is that God is never seen as a man. And it was used as a prefix to his name. For example, Èl-shad 7. The Yoruba tradition acknowledge even both patrilineal and matrilineal side of the family. The Ancient Hebrew acknowledged both patrilineal and matrilineal side of the family 8. The Yoruba word, ‘Édá' convey deeper meaning for human because, it is heavily enshrined in ORI CONCEPT. And this word is scarcely used for humans. Instead yoruba often use èníyán for humans. The Ancient Hebrew were the only group referred as EDA in the ancient times. 9. The Yoruba word, ‘Àdìrè' is a term use for a woven cloth with pattern. The Ancient Hebrew were the only group that had a woven cloth called Àdéreth' 10. The Yoruba were the only group that refers to the light of day/sunlight as,‘Orún'. The Ancient Hebrew were the only group that referred to Sunlight as, ‘ Or'. This is just a tip of the iceberg because, I have more proof than these. Believe me, you are the FRAUD because YOU HAVE NO ORIKI,and on a wrong chase. Continue to disgrace yourselfover what is beyond You. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:25am On Sep 30, 2018 |
MayorofLagos:Sir, take it easy oooo. Omo kekere ni nsè won. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:32am On Sep 30, 2018*. Modified: 11:48am On Oct 01, 2018 |
Obalufon:Hmmmm Bárá l’ àbélékún súnkún kí érúu o bá élékún . Bí élékún bá n súkún, Láàroyè à má sún éjé. A lot on this diety has been said as he is referred as a service renderer to whoever call upon him through the necessary sacrifice and the consent of Èlèdúùmàrè. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 8:16am On Sep 30, 2018 |
MayorofLagos:. Show me where I said I'm initiated to Iṣẹṣe And i am more Yoruba than your father Which native intelligence do you have? it's native intelligence that told you Yoruba are Hebrews?All this criminals dragging Yoruba to the mud |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 8:19am On Sep 30, 2018 |
Olu317:Shut up you fraud Ọmọ kékeré wo? You simply lack any form of education, either academic or traditional claiming to be some yoruba guru with your inventive history |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 8:22am On Sep 30, 2018 |
Olu317: ![]() He calls this gibberish knowledge Have you forgotten how Yoruba have more in common with Japanese and Anglo-Saxons than Hebrew? You want me to show you again and expose your fraud one more time? Only you by yourself came up with this, no evidence no source, picking things out of context without understanding That's what you get when your parents didn't struggle well for you, you resort to fraud last last But this hustle just miss road ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 8:55am On Sep 30, 2018*. Modified: 9:10am On Sep 30, 2018 |
Just imagine this crap up? IN LIGUISTIC, it is called ‘COGNATES' . as far as I am trained, I won't stoop low as Omo Ibo like you(olachi)who can't differentiate between myth and facts.So also have no respect for his ancestors or parents .... Mind you,I have met some Ibos with great attitude but yours? Extremely shameful . If I can make these things up, then, dread me like your ancestors dreaded my ancestors. But did I also made the below's screenshot up? ![]() I thank God, because I have something great in the offing, what exactly is your purpose in life ? . Funny enough, you and many household shall shamelessly purchase it because you want to know what you have never come across in your lifetime.So wait for it. A retard is known by his/her action but unfortunately, this is a faceless forum. So, say I, that a ‘retard grandeur' is known by his or her senseless post sent online. ![]() Interested in learning ? So as to get a grip. Read the this book as a beginner : 1. HEBREW LIFE AND CUSTOM. ![]()
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| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 9:08am On Sep 30, 2018 |
Olu317: while thousands of students annually are learning Yoruba history and how Yoruba is a native African civilizationIt is one unemployed guy who didn't pass jamb that wants to tell professors of history and anthropology that they are wrong ![]() If this things you post here are what you have in the book, even your dunce friends here won't buy it ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 9:20am On Sep 30, 2018 |
OlaoChi:bien vas périr. parce que t'es non pertinent..... Assignment for you a, ‘fou à lier ' ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by OlaoChi: 10:01am On Sep 30, 2018 |
Olu317:Nobody speaks French here, why not speak Hebrew for us You are Hebrew right? ![]() |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 10:20am On Sep 30, 2018*. Modified: 11:52am On Sep 30, 2018 |
Olu317:Olu is esu devil?.. Please Esu is not Devil nothing like devil or Satan in yoruba tradition ..Are you a christian? ..Esu is the medium between Almighty God and man.. he curtails our excesses . |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 11:40am On Sep 30, 2018*. Modified: 4:55am On Oct 01, 2018 |
Obalufon:No.... And I had answered you in my previous post on the work of Èsù from my understanding as regards his duty .But I have some questions. So please,answer the following questions. 1.Who exactly is Èsù? 2. Yoruba elders says, t' ìbí t'íré ní Àdà ìlè Àyè. Whose saying was it in IFA corpus ? 3. This saying came forth in 1st plural pronoun ‘À' ,which is,‘WE' in English translation,so who were creators of Àyè that mention, the ‘good' and ‘bad' forces ? 4. As you have seen me done, I want you to explain what this saying on Èsù, ; Bárá l’ àb'élékún súnkún kí érú o bá élékún . Bí élékún bá n súnkún, Láàroyé à mà sún éjé'. 5. Do you know Èsù, Eksum, Heasu(Easu) appeared in some other people's culture in Middle East and European culture? As you know, we are sharing knowledge,so as to understand some aspects of our darling YORUBA culture, which has a vacuum, that needed to be filled.But as it seems, thw shocking CONSERVATIVE, especially the ones that lack the pedigree to cohabit with other people's different views that's based on research work can't tolerate the truth. Yet these set of people can't defend Our ancestors very well when EDO CLAIM ODU'A AS their own Igodo descendant? *What an Irony*ONLY SONS WILL DEFEND HIS FATHER'S RIGHT. AS YOU HAD SEEN OTHERS AND I have done so vividly. lastly I wait to read from your depth . |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by bluke(m): 7:21pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
MayorofLagos:i think dele momodu studied yoruba, he must have learnt some verses from some babas |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 8:15pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
Olu317:1. Wrong accents marks for most of what is written there. You don't seem to speak Yoruba fluently? As I still remember you couldn't tell the difference between "ìlú" and "ìlù" T'ibì T'ire ni à da ilẹ̀ Ayé That is the right way to write what you were trying to say. 2. "Àlominílé f'ẹjẹ wẹ" is an oriki of Ogun not Esu 3. Esu - the man - was from Ketu. All traditions around Esu revolves around Ketu, with Oyo recording his presence among them at some time He had no presence in places like Ife, reason Esu has no signicant following in central and Eastern Yoruba towns If Esu traveled as far as the middle east, I think Yorubas would know that |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 8:41pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
And you are still going back to posts you've already replied before without addressing the points raised twice.. I've told you to get help, you are not mentally stable @absolutesuccess. Address my post if you want to, or ignore the post. Not mentioning me every 3 days to get my attention running around trolling again, still nothing better to do with your life? @MayorofLagos? You should be learning Yoruba history from my posts |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 8:54pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
macof:what are you saying macof Esu had no presence in Ile ife |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 9:22pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
Obalufon:. Like I said, Esu - the man Historically, at least not that I know of, Esu did not live in Ife |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 9:48pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
macof:Do you know the significant of Esu in yoruba tradition? atleast you would have seen sacrifices at T junction before ..Esu convey any ritual or prayers to God..Esu is the driving force of our tradition |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 9:55pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
macof:All the irumoles (Angels) landed in ile -IFE they all lived in IFE before creation of man |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 10:04pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
Obalufon:Yes all the Irunmole did land in Ifè..that's part of Yoruba traditions as regards Spirituality But I'm talking History, that is why I said Esu - the man If you read my post to @hayoholla you will say how I explained the duality of Characters in Yoruba traditions, each Orisa is both spiritual/mythical and Historical/physical.. They have two sides Same Esu who was the 9th Alaketu of Ketu(historically) is said to be a son of Osun and Orunmila(mythically /spiritually) Btw Irunmole are not Angels, very different concepts, let's leave Asian concepts to the Asians |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 10:17pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
Obalufon:Yes, I'm well aware of Esu and his significance in areas where he is significant.. Not the entire length and breath of Yorubaland In Ifè, Esu's role is mainly taken up by Oluorogbo |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 10:29pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
macof:what is the significant of esu in ifa tradition ? |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 10:47pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
macof:Esu the physical is not the esu the irumole .. what is the meaning of irumole in English,,irumole are messengers of God. forces of nature that we can tap in and make use of |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 10:55pm On Sep 30, 2018*. Modified: 11:27pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
as jesus is the medium God and man in Christianity .likewise .Esu too is the medium between God and man in our tradition |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 5:31am On Oct 01, 2018 |
macof:T('i)b(ì) T('i)r(e) n(i) à d(a) ilẹ̀ (A)y(é)-è The letters in bracket aren't accented properly. accents on Yoruba languagewere shaped through French pronunciation. Though, it doesn't mean Yoruba language aren't filled with accents when pronounced. And trust me, I have idea on French words and her pronunciation form. So, don't dare me. 2. Bárá l’ àb'élékún súnkún kí érú o bá élékún . Bí élékún bá n súnkún, Láàroyé à mà sún éjé'.(*edited*) * I had edited it earlier but anti-spam Bot on NL can be a bit challenging * 3. Èsù Oníbodè, I know isn't from Kètú. Can you give, how that came to be? Although, ancient Yoruba names had Èsù, as a prefix to their names. |
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Like wildfire, it spread around the universe and we started seeing all kind of merchandise depicting these gestures and the word "illuminati" became a household name....even on the lips of baboons. Baboon sef began to swag like a illuminati. 
