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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by toyeengbemi: 10:26am On Nov 08, 2018
AfonjaBoston:


I will attempt to break it down to a reasonable level.

I am not an impulsive shopper and never will be especially when it concerns life of a new born, personal health and well being.

This is not like buying Chico phone or London use laptop that you just jump into Danfo and go to Ikeja under bridge to buy whatever you can buy even if it means running game on the seller or have him/her give you for free.

Now step back for a minute if you like quality and you want or to be fair need laptop/phone you will go to SLOT or HP office on the mainland or island and if they low ball you, wouldn't you ask questions like why is it so low is there a sale going on? Are these products refurbished, low grade, what's the selling price of the real deal ? These are valid questions.

To the real deal these scenarios are not comparable with human life. You know how much average prenatal/postpartum maternity cost is for foreigners who desire to take advantage of immigration system via medical tourism in the U.S. (that is the reason why the damn thing is expensive in the first place) and the technicalities involved in medical transfers from naija and visa processing.

If a doctor or shady hospital for whatever reason gives you a way lower than the belt average cost it is your responsibility to inform them hey this is way above normal cost is anything else attached to it and let them know you are a foreigner can they tell you the reason for the pricing. They are obliged to tell you oh we having some new trials and we trying to rack up results by driving sales or blah blah blah.

I tried to break it down as simple as I could.

Now she has chop discount whey too big for her throat oyinbo man done catch her.

If you have family member in her shoes tell them to go and tell the visa officers what you just said up there they will definitely pity her and give them
very funny Atlanta medicals isn't a shady hospital it is a very recognized hospital. all hospitals give discount for self pay. it is money that is seen as against waiting for insurance money. please do your research you either pay self pay and get discounts or you are on insurance as a permanent resident or on medicaid. i no chop discount wey big pass me if you cant offer advice politely you didn't have to comment.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by toyeengbemi: 10:30am On Nov 08, 2018
thanks its just about clearing my name. i have traveled there before. just want to know the main reason.
Beautyaddy:
Being refused the US visa is not the end of the world. Try going to another country for your vacation if indeed your main purpose of travelling is for vacation and nothing else.


Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by AfonjaBoston: 10:37am On Nov 08, 2018
toyeengbemi:
very funny Atlanta medicals isn't a shady hospital it is a very recognized hospital. all hospitals give discount for self pay. it is money that is seen as against waiting for insurance money. please do your research you either pay self pay and get discounts or you are on insurance as a permanent resident or on medicaid. i no chop discount wey big pass me if you cant offer advice politely you didn't have to comment.

Na you put your market out for public make people buy and you have been told the real koko.

Don't be mad at me be mad at yourself for not thinking it through when you dey chop big awoof.

They don't want you in their country and your desperation is not helping either.

You can keep applying and praying the God of heaven wipes off that persona non grata they have in there about you

I am not the reason for your predicament. Just because others are chopping awoof and have not been caught does not make it right. You are a pawn they caught just right on time

Pele

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by toyeengbemi: 10:38am On Nov 08, 2018
[quote author=ninab post=72763367]
You can never know the reason you can only guess
Not sure if this would work but u could get a qualified immigration lawyer to assist you in writing a friend of mine did after 4 refusals
I don’t know if it would work now hers was in 2016
Never knew this calling after drop box has been since 2017 tot it started this year
thanks for not insulting or judging.yes oh they started calling after drop box 2017 January many attributed this to Trump. all i know is that at the queue for interview i came across at least 4 women who previously had babies in the USA, did drop box and was called in for interview. 2 had theirs before me and were refused like me. please could you private chat me the lawyers number. thank you.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by AfonjaBoston: 10:50am On Nov 08, 2018
To correct some misconceptions out there.

(1) Some Nigerians think when " insurance" pays the process and length of payment is longer . factually incorrect. Pay out is just as quick as the lad paying cash. The process can take a day or two once your claims are verified.

(2) just because you paying via insurance does not mean the cost of the service is "cheaper" the hospital still charges the "same cost of service" just like the guy paying cash right away. The only difference is your out of pocket is very small or zero and the insurance company bears 100% or whatever of the cost (I mean that is the risk of their business)
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by OmoBendel24: 11:05am On Nov 08, 2018
AfonjaBoston:
To correct some misconceptions out there.

(1) Some Nigerians think when " insurance" pays the process and length of payment is longer . factually incorrect. Pay out is just as quick as the lad paying cash. The process can take a day or two once your claims are verified.

(2) just because you paying via insurance does not mean the cost of the service is "cheaper" the hospital still charges the "same cost of service" just like the guy paying cash right away. The only difference is your out of pocket is very small or zero and the insurance company bears 100% or whatever of the cost (I mean that is the risk of their business)

Hope you understand Healthcare and Security are big businesses (with loads of complexities and intricacies) in the US sha? The people paying this LITTLE and so far renewing their visas world over either through dropbox or via interviews - which of course are in the majority, how then is this happening?

Anyways, you will mostly be talking to novices here. Thank God you are on the birthing thread, let's take this your stance there and test it maybe....
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by AfonjaBoston: 11:11am On Nov 08, 2018
OmoBendel24:


Hope you understand Healthcare and Security are big businesses (with loads of complexities and intricacies) in the US sha? The people paying this LITTLE and so far renewing their visas world over either through dropbox or via interviews - which of course are in the majority, how then is this happening?


Yes those two Muthaf***ers have a lot of complexities. The US govt invest heavily in security while the greedy capitalist milk us dry in the health sector.

When you say "little" what do you really mean?
Cos I know for sure Asians are the biggest beneficiaries of immigration benefits via medical tourism and boy those guys don't pay $3200 for childbirth look up simple videos on YouTube and help yourself on travel channel.

Some pay as much as $35 to 40k to birth

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by AfonjaBoston: 11:15am On Nov 08, 2018
OmoBendel24:


?

Anyways, you will mostly be talking to novices here. Thank God you are on the birthing thread, let's take this your stance there and test it maybe....

What exactly are we "testing" ? That insurance pays just as fast as the guy paying cash or the cost of service is "technically same" for the guy paying cash and the insured?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by OmoBendel24: 11:20am On Nov 08, 2018
AfonjaBoston:



Yes those two Muthafuckers have a lot of complexities. The US govt invest heavily in security while the greedy capitalist milk us dry in the health sector.

When you say "little" what do you really mean?
Cos I know for sure Asians are the biggest beneficiaries of immigration benefits via medical tourism and boy those guys don't pay $3200 for childbirth look up simple videos on YouTube and help yourself on travel channel.

Some pay as much as $35 to 40k to birth

Understood largely though.... I asked, why are they yet renewing for loads of peeps with these your highlighted "deficiencies"? How much do you as an American trust the HCA workings and maybe billings too for instance?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by AfonjaBoston: 11:28am On Nov 08, 2018
OmoBendel24:


I asked, why are they yet renewing for loads of peeps with these your highlighted "deficiencies"? How much do you as an American trust the HCA workings and maybe billings too for instance?

On my soul I do scrutinize my bill.of course never trust anybody will do their job right but I can guarantee you i will vehemently refuse to be taken advantage of or let a medical facility milk me dry because of somebody's "incompetence or shady ways" with due respect

Let me tell you a story.One time I had a quote for some form of advanced imaging and the hospital told me my out of pocket was just less than a $1500 I was like how much is the guy paying cash gonna have to pay they said about $5k I called my insurance agent and the novice verified my out of pocket was about that amount when I dug deeper into my account I realized there must have been an error somewhere and the insurance company was either trying to be sneaky or dumb...

When my bill came in my mail it was $50 and I felt that was just about right.

It all boils down to knowing what service you are paying for , the prices for it and not letting anyone chop you mugu so you do not regret later.

I still don't understand the "deficiencies" you talking about
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by boladet: 11:33am On Nov 08, 2018
Hello all I would like to apply for visiting visa for my baby who is just 2 months old ,the rest of the family have visas but we have not used the visas to travel yet, will we have to go to the Embassy for interview or it will be done differently.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by IyawoToBe(f): 1:58pm On Nov 08, 2018
AfonjaBoston:



Yes those two Muthaf***ers have a lot of complexities. The US govt invest heavily in security while the greedy capitalist milk us dry in the health sector.

When you say "little" what do you really mean?
Cos I know for sure Asians are the biggest beneficiaries of immigration benefits via medical tourism and boy those guys don't pay $3200 for childbirth look up simple videos on YouTube and help yourself on travel channel.

Some pay as much as $35 to 40k to birth
Dude, you are not making any sense... Take several seats undecided

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by AfonjaBoston: 2:04pm On Nov 08, 2018
IyawoToBe:
Dude, you are not making any sense... Take several seats undecided

Tautology.

. . . maybe you just too "smart" to get it.

Oh I know why. You one of those people.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by lanrems: 2:12pm On Nov 08, 2018
Guy the problem with Nigerian not getting visas lately is all political, my wife paid $3ooo after birth at a Chicago hospital and equally made payment plans for the balance, but on the flight home to Casablanca she met a lady from Sierra lone that claimed she paid nothing as in nothing at the hospital after delivery. Think this supports the Asian theory sited up there.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by seyewest(m): 2:18pm On Nov 08, 2018
AfonjaBoston:


In most cases zero. I had no bill in the mail for any of my three beautiful princesses

Insurance to the rescue, imagine you have none.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by AfonjaBoston: 2:20pm On Nov 08, 2018
seyewest:


Insurance to the rescue imagine you have none.

I simply pay what is rightly due IF I have none.

By the way insurance did not come to my "rescue" I pay my premiums they do their work.

No favors at all

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by lanrems: 2:22pm On Nov 08, 2018
boladet:
Hello all I would like to apply for visiting visa for my baby who is just 2 months old ,the rest of the family have visas but we have not used the visas to travel yet, will we have to go to the Embassy for interview or it will be done differently.


With the recent rate of revocation, I did advice you use your visas first, cos at the interview you might/will be asked why u haven't used it for the earlier stated purpose. It does pinch the vos to revoke visas this days.
You might want to weight your options here, and decide what's best for the family. And if you must go for the interview go with the copy of your visa n not your passport, be smart.
This is my deduction after so much research on happenings at the embassy right now.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Taal17: 3:00pm On Nov 08, 2018
[quote author=toyeengbemi post=72785339][/quote]

You are wrong. Interview after Dropbox has ALWAYS been an option at the discretion of the embassy. That has been on the EMBASSY site since inception of Dropbox a few years ago.

Those discounts are not simply because you are self-pay. A lot of discounts from certain hospitals in some states are such because they are to cater for the UNINSURED legal residents . It's more than likely that's what Atlantic medicals offered you. So although it's self pay on the back end someone or govt is paying for the difference.

Not all discounts are like this for self pay but those with large discounts usually are. Unfortunately most hospitals won't tell you that neither do they know the challenge foreigners on birth tourism have with renewals.
Very little you can do....travel somewhere else


On a side note US HealthCare is ridiculously expensive which is a topic for another day.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Taal17: 3:05pm On Nov 08, 2018
lanrems:
Guy the problem with Nigerian not getting visas lately is all political, my wife paid $3ooo after birth at a Chicago hospital and equally made payment plans for the balance, but on the flight home to Casablanca she met a lady from Sierra lone that claimed she paid nothing as in nothing at the hospital after delivery. Think this supports the Asian theory sited up there.

She used Medicaid of course...that's not new. She knew exactly what she was doing...and she didn't do it alone either. She'd only give your wife one side of the truth.
People had done runs on that for years which is why the crackdown on it.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Taal17: 3:06pm On Nov 08, 2018
lanrems:



With the recent rate of revocation, I did advice you use your visas first, cos at the interview you might/will be asked why u haven't used it for the earlier stated purpose. It does pinch the vos to revoke visas this days.
You might want to weight your options here, and decide what's best for the family. And if you must go for the interview go with the copy of your visa n not your passport, be smart.
This is my deduction after so much research on happenings at the embassy right now.

You do realise they don't need your passport to revoke your visa

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by lanrems: 3:18pm On Nov 08, 2018
Taal17:


You do realise they don't need your passport to revoke your visa

Sure I do, going forward I meant, reason I said be smart.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by lanrems: 3:24pm On Nov 08, 2018
Taal17:


She used Medicaid of course...that's not new. She knew exactly what she was doing...and she didn't do it alone either. She'd only give your wife one side of the truth.
People had done runs on that for years which is why the crackdown on it.

Crackdown against Nigerians or other nationalities? If a Nigerian could pay $10000 in child birth and was denial another visa cos of discount of $2000/$3000 which the vo claims he/she doesn't understand why enjoy a discount cos it was a self paid payment. Yet, other countries get their visas renewed even without payment.
Nigeria is a target understand that already!

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Vuitton007: 4:04pm On Nov 08, 2018
Hey guys GoodAftn...

Been awhile but i been a silent reader...
I am abit worried on Dropbox renewals from this experiences that has been shared here in recent times , cos this year i had chose not to renew until i am sure i have a travel plan to visit, to avoid un-used visas that i end up with...
My B1/B2 expired in Sept and its definitely looking like i would be travelling to the US first week in Jan but from London.
I haven't violated any visa usage/rules, so i am hoping i wont be slammed with an invite for interview..
When is the best time to drop my application for renewal, if i am to leave Lagos for London on the 21st December, and if all goes smoothly with the renewal, how long does it take to have the Passport&Visa ready for pick up? *trying to avoid December backlog stories that touch, hence my double checking with you all*
Does 1st week in Dec look ok to submit?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by OmoBendel24: 4:36pm On Nov 08, 2018
Vuitton007:
Hey guys GoodAftn...

Been awhile but i been a silent reader...
I am abit worried on Dropbox renewals from this experiences that has been shared here in recent times , cos this year i had chose not to renew until i am sure i have a travel plan to visit, to avoid un-used visas that i end up with...
My B1/B2 expired in Sept and its definitely looking like i would be travelling to the US first week in Jan but from London.
I haven't violated any visa usage/rules, so i am hoping i wont be slammed with an invite for interview..
When is the best time to drop my application for renewal, if i am to leave Lagos for London on the 21st December, and if all goes smoothly with the renewal, how long does it take to have the Passport&Visa ready for pick up? *trying to avoid December backlog stories that touch, hence my double checking with you all*
Does 1st week in Dec look ok to submit?

Now is the best time. It used to take between 5-10 work days before now. These days, it could take much longer. If I were you though, I will submit some 4 weeks ahead of my travel date. Some still get theirs renewed in two weeks and sometimes a little above that till now sha, but err on the side of 4 weeks....

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by lennyk: 6:03pm On Nov 08, 2018
Good day all,

I'm new to this thread but have been catching up on the older posts. please i want to reapply via drop box with my family. Our B1/B2 just expired this month. Hope i can still renew via dropbox it even though it has just expired?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Beautyaddy: 6:19pm On Nov 08, 2018
lanrems:


Crackdown against Nigerians or other nationalities? If a Nigerian could pay $10000 in child birth and was denial another visa cos of discount of $2000/$3000 which the vo claims he/she doesn't understand why enjoy a discount cos it was a self paid payment. Yet, other countries get their visas renewed even without payment.
Nigeria is a target understand that already!

That is not true. Please stop giving out false statements.

Nigerians are not the only people that have had a very hard time renewing their visas after caught using Medicaid for birthing in the US.

You do know that it is the US State department that issues US passports?...as well as it's the same US State department that controls and monitors all the US embassies across their locations.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Nobody: 6:25pm On Nov 08, 2018
She’s just unlucky ..I was among the John h Stroger of 2016 and I did my drop box successfully though I was called for interview...she just asked to see the bill and that was all..Awoof no fit turn belle..she didn’t birth for free..all hospital prIce can’t be same not only in America but everywhere in the world..see as you dey happy cow they refuse her..
AfonjaBoston:



My hard tax $$$$ was part of that discount.
They done mark you red skull bone for their system grin

Next time when you go born and they offer discount refuse it . awoof dey run belle.
Its not until you chop Medicare/Medicaid or any insurance benefit that you have constituted yourself a public charge.

E go hard for you just wait till your pikin turn adult then he can file for you if that law has not been changed by then or naija fit done be stew before then and you won't need their yeye visa

Best of luck

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Beautyaddy: 6:31pm On Nov 08, 2018
Sparkle1515:
She’s just unlucky ..I was among the John h Stroger of 2016 and I did my drop box successfully though I was called for interview...she just asked to see the bill and that was all..Awoof no fit turn belle..she didn’t birth for free..all hospital prIce can’t be same not only in America but everywhere in the world..see as you dey happy cow they refuse her..

Many women have abused what you were lucky to have gotten away with...unfortunately, as of recent that is no longer the case now.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Taal17: 6:55pm On Nov 08, 2018
Vuitton007:
Hey guys GoodAftn...

Been awhile but i been a silent reader...
I am abit worried on Dropbox renewals from this experiences that has been shared here in recent times , cos this year i had chose not to renew until i am sure i have a travel plan to visit, to avoid un-used visas that i end up with...
My B1/B2 expired in Sept and its definitely looking like i would be travelling to the US first week in Jan but from London.
I haven't violated any visa usage/rules, so i am hoping i wont be slammed with an invite for interview..
When is the best time to drop my application for renewal, if i am to leave Lagos for London on the 21st December, and if all goes smoothly with the renewal, how long does it take to have the Passport&Visa ready for pick up? *trying to avoid December backlog stories that touch, hence my double checking with you all*
Does 1st week in Dec look ok to submit?
Submit now.
If you're fortunate then no interview, if they do call for interview the backlog for dates is already in 2019 so submit now.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Timika: 7:22pm On Nov 08, 2018
Please house, does a B2 Visa faithful need to do any mandatory medical examinations before the visa interviews date? Thanks for your response in anticipation.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by Nobody: 8:09pm On Nov 08, 2018
I renewed it recently aunty
Beautyaddy:


Many women have abused what you were lucky to have gotten away with...unfortunately, as of recent that is no longer the case now.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 3 by AfonjaBoston: 8:24pm On Nov 08, 2018
Sparkle1515:
She’s just unlucky ..I was among the John h Stroger of 2016 and I did my drop box successfully though I was called for interview...she just asked to see the bill and that was all..Awoof no fit turn belle..she didn’t birth for free..all hospital prIce can’t be same not only in America but everywhere in the world..see as you dey happy cow they refuse her..

I won't attack your character because you don't have any.

What do I stand to gain from her visa refusal or approval?

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