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Re: The NBA Begins by Eruditor: 6:46pm On Nov 22, 2018
Hardetayour:
Klay seems to have lost something cos I don't understand what's happening with him. It was looking like he was back after the Bulls game but I was wrong.

Durant handling the ball is an eye sore. Quin Cooks refusal to shoot sometimes until garbage time is annoying too.
Klay's form is worrying same as KD but we will be fine.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 7:19pm On Nov 22, 2018
Roland17:
Please read carefully and completely.

Firstly, let me state that it is unnecessary to knock down other coaches because there is an argument against Kerr. People forget that everything Kerr learned as a coach was because he played under Phil Jackson (Bulls) and Greg Popovic (Spurs). Kerr took these playing lessons to the NBA as a coach, tweaked, revised, adjusted and created his system. Let me remind people that he was never an assistant, neither was he around the court after he retired. He was an NBA analyst and before that, he had a management stint with the Sixers, I think. All he knew was from both coaches who I still regard as the greatest minds (alongside Chuk Daly and Jerry Sloan).

Now that I have that out of the way, It would be definitely unfair to argue that Kerr is an overrated coach, however, I will entertain the argument that he is not a great tactician/ strategist. I am not sure a lot of us understand how difficult it is to coach this team and that is where Kerr does not get a lot of credit. In comparison to Jackson, Kerr's style of leadership defers accountability to the players and the players make important decisions regarding themselves. Case in point, sources have it that the players made the decision to suspend Green without pay, not Kerr. The Warriors team was built to succeed with numbers, basically, numbers in strength and this is how Kerr has coached this team since he took over. Last season when KD went down, they struggled and when the postseason came, you could see the difference when the team was healthy. Individually the Warriors struggle but as a team, they are potent. You listen to what KD said after last night's game, "if you take a piece out of this team, we struggle".

My argument is different because Kerr is a rigid coach who plays without alternatives. He sticks to his original strategy, I am not sure if it is because he is stubborn or because he is scared of altering what has made the team successful. There have been games, particularly during the postseason when you expect adjustments because the issues are glaring but you still see the same strategy and sometimes the team loses (the famous choke finals series) and other times, the individual talent of the players pulls them through. There is also the angle that lesser unknown and unsuccessful assistants achieved great results when Kerr was away, albeit under his established system. Walton rode that luck and system into a head coaching position with the Lakers and truth be told, it is only a matter of time and not when before Walton is gone if the Lakers have championship ambitions. But again, while Walton and Brown may have used Kerr's system, there were moments during that run when Walton had to coach during timeouts and this did not require Kerr's input because timeout situations are different. Throughout Kerr's reign, he has not had to deal with the ego of the players spilling into bad blood between players. The Green v KD is my litmus test on how he handles this new situation because the players know there is an elephant in the room that may not be addressed until after the season.

The Warriors team was a great defensive unit before Kerr arrived but Kerr opened up the offense and exploited the already great defense with his philosophy of ball movement, rather than ISO basketball with Monta. I think the biggest piece is how ownership built this team when they chose to move away from Ellington and got Bogut from the Bucks. Bogut changed everything for that team going forward even though he did not stay healthy. Kerr has coached and succeeded with the Warriors for the most part while coaching his core, this is the first run he would be without his core and they are struggling and that is where I have my question about his rating as an all time.

Like @ A40 said, being considered or an argument about being 'overrated" does not mean you are not a good coach, it only means people want to see more in different scenarios to make a better argument for your case. Erik Spoelstra and Rick Carlisle are 2 coaches I respect because they are great tactical minds. Everyone was convinced the Heats would struggle after the Big 3 left but Spoelstra has found a way to keep that team competitive, in fact, he got the heat to the 3rd seed after Bron left and that is the biggest difference between him and Ty Lue who was a product of Lebron's greatness. Carlisle took a lesser talented Mavs side with a sick superstar to the finals and beat Bron and his assembly. I think it would be interesting to see how he coaches the Warriors after some of the core leave or slow down because of age. Last season, I was very clear that the Warriors have to manage Curry carefully after he turned 30 because he is tHe sticking point for this team.
This is a very fantastic piece! I think it's easy to forget how hard it can be to motivate in November a team that is already tuned to Spring time basketball and then to do it for 3 to 4 straight years. It also helps that Kerr is unafraid to borrow ideas and implement. I recall one of his video guys advising him to bench Bogut in the 15 Finals and start Iggy

You raised a glut of solid points that I can't help but agree with and I'd also add that the major reason why some might consider Kerr overrated because of his struggles thus far and assuming it stays that way is that you would expect a team with KD and Klay Thompson to be able to cope with the absence of Steph regardless of playing style.

Star players go down in sports all the time but I don't know a team in the league better equipped to cope with the loss of a star than Golden State. The mantra is Strength in Numbers but what is happening atm is an antithesis to that creed. Ask around the league and I doubt any coach would buy the absence of Steph as an excuse for the team struggling thus far. Anyway time will ultimately tell. Like I said KD and Klay are definitely enough for this team to at least compete
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 8:43pm On Nov 23, 2018
happy thanksgiving to all out here...even d warriors fans grin

life is short, i stay grateful
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 8:59pm On Nov 23, 2018
A40:
This is a very fantastic piece! I think it's easy to forget how hard it can be to motivate in November a team that is already tuned to Spring time basketball and then to do it for 3 to 4 straight years. It also helps that Kerr is unafraid to borrow ideas and implement. I recall one of his video guys advising him to bench Bogut in the 15 Finals and start Iggy

You raised a glut of solid points that I can't help but agree with and I'd also add that the major reason why some might consider Kerr overrated because of his struggles thus far and assuming it stays that way is that you would expect a team with KD and Klay Thompson to be able to cope with the absence of Steph regardless of playing style.

Star players go down in sports all the time but I don't know a team in the league better equipped to cope with the loss of a star than Golden State. The mantra is Strength in Numbers but what is happening atm is an antithesis to that creed. Ask around the league and I doubt any coach would buy the absence of Steph as an excuse for the team struggling thus far. Anyway time will ultimately tell. Like I said KD and Klay are definitely enough for this team to at least compete
yeap, excellent post by Roland17. The greats, Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley... all great tactical basketball minds.But there are many coaches just as good technically. Ultimately, a great coach is a great leader, able to manage the egos of his stars and control the lockeroom.

I am not a Kerr hater, so I hope he rises to this challenge and figures out how to play his hand. He will definitely need his superstar with the least ego, Curry. But I fear he has played mr nice guy for so long, it will be hard.

on the other hand, best believe Lebron (and Magic), easily the most tactical player in the league understand this is a vacuum the lakers could exploit. Both on the court and trades that can be made.
Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 10:22pm On Nov 23, 2018
birdman:
happy thanksgiving to all out here...even d warriors fans grin

life is short, i stay grateful
Bro,i see what you did there...

Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:49am On Nov 24, 2018
The Cavs are blowing out Philly. Lol of all teams to end their home streak. Why we were telling that chap to stop betting on regular season NBA
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 3:56am On Nov 24, 2018
An even/balanced scoring to finally end the bleeding. Hopefully, we can build from this much-needed W.
#greenrunsdeep
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 3:59am On Nov 24, 2018
M. Harrell (Clippers) has to win the most improved player of the season. The guy is balling out of his mind.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:01am On Nov 24, 2018
Pelicans lost, Suns outplaying the Bucks
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:01am On Nov 24, 2018
A40:
The Cavs are blowing out Philly. Lol of all teams to end their home streak. Why we were telling that chap to stop betting on regular season NBA
I dey tell you!!! But, I think they showed glimpses of renewal in the loss to LeBum and the Lakers.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:10am On Nov 24, 2018
Roland17:
I dey tell you!!! But, I think they showed glimpses of renewal in the loss to LeBum and the Lakers.
Sexton looks like a decent prospect. Much better than the ridiculously hyped Trae Young. They can do much better than their record.

Phoenix have been the biggest disappointment. Their refusal to play defense means TJ Warren and Devin Booker's primes would likely be wasted
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:33am On Nov 24, 2018
A40:
Sexton looks like a decent prospect. Much better than the ridiculously hyped Trae Young. They can do much better than their record.

Phoenix have been the biggest disappointment. Their refusal to play defense means TJ Warren and Devin Booker's primes would likely be wasted
LMAO @ Trae. I knew it would be impossible to replicate those Curry type shots in the NBA. The kid went from shooting 36% from beyond the arc in Oklahoma to a paltry 23.8% in the NBA.

As for the Suns, they drafted Ayton number who has not particularly met the hype on offense, neither is he interested in playing defense. I mean he gets the numbers here and there but nothing strong enough to support Booker and Warren. He is still a rookie with a lot of upsides but I hope he does not up like J. Okafor or N. Noel. Things happen very fast in the NBA and teams move on quicker than in the past.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:42am On Nov 24, 2018
This is much more like it from the Warriors. Some times you just have to remember the son of whom you are
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 7:06am On Nov 24, 2018
Roland17:
LMAO @ Trae. I knew it would be impossible to replicate those Curry type shots in the NBA. The kid went from shooting 36% from beyond the arc in Oklahoma to a paltry 23.8% in the NBA.

As for the Suns, they drafted Ayton number who has not particularly met the hype on offense, neither is he interested in playing defense. I mean he gets the numbers here and there but nothing strong enough to support Booker and Warren. He is still a rookie with a lot of upsides but I hope he does not up like J. Okafor or N. Noel. Things happen very fast in the NBA and teams move on quicker than in the past.
I saw one of these millennial TraeSZN accounts on Twitter call him a top 10 PG and I nearly lost my shyte. Now I think he's shown potential to be an above average passer but as a scorer his lack of efficiency is ridiculous! He is still a rookie sha but this tendency to keep launching treys off long dribbles might not get him very far

I like Ayton. He's a pretty efficient scorer. Sadly he plays no D which is a waste for his size. This Suns team should be doing better than their record. Booker is in his 4th year and Warren in his 5th. The youth argument is wearing a little thing as time goes on. I thought the addition of vets like J Crossover and Ariza would help but it hasn't thus far (ignoring his game-winning shot today)
Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 7:23am On Nov 24, 2018
A40:
Pelicans lost, Suns outplaying the Bucks
To bet in the NBA is damn risky shocked shocked

Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 11:09am On Nov 24, 2018
Roland17:
M. Harrell (Clippers) has to win the most improved player of the season. The guy is balling out of his mind.
My boy Lavine is copping that shït angry


He's more qualified for 6th man with Rose, Randle and Lou Williams
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:26pm On Nov 24, 2018
aliondo:
To bet in the NBA is damn risky shocked shocked
If you're the type always looking for 'sure' game you will always have problems. Nothing is sure
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:26am On Nov 25, 2018
Which kain "juju" Rick Carlisle and him coaching staff work on top D. Jordan free throw? The man went from shooting 58% from the FT last season to now shooting over 80%!!!

No more Hack a Jodan..
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:46am On Nov 25, 2018
Everything from beyond the arc is going in for the Mavs.
Re: The NBA Begins by ipledge10(m): 5:02am On Nov 25, 2018
NBA is kind of balance now, the Eastern conference teams are no longer bi*ches to the western conference teams.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:40am On Nov 25, 2018
Only one team in the West has won less than 8 games. Crazy
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 5:58am On Nov 25, 2018
@Decale
How does it feel knowing Andrew Wiggins and Rob Covington went 1/30 and the Bulls still lost grin grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Anopheles: 8:30am On Nov 25, 2018
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Re: The NBA Begins by Decale: 8:32am On Nov 25, 2018
A40:
@Decale
How does it feel knowing Andrew Wiggins and Rob Covington went 1/30 and the Bulls still lost grin grin
I was about typing this...


Howwwwwwwww? huh
Re: The NBA Begins by aliondo: 9:04am On Nov 25, 2018
Decale:
I was about typing this...


Howwwwwwwww? huh

Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 1:11pm On Nov 25, 2018
Dwight Howard ooh grin grin grin aye ti fe idi si Bobo yi sha! Literally grin grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 1:32pm On Nov 25, 2018
The Greek freak is simply the most dominant player in the paint
Re: The NBA Begins by KNIGHTBlaed(m): 2:21pm On Nov 25, 2018
Decale:
I was about typing this...


Howwwwwwwww? huh
A healthy Derrick Rose
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:23am On Nov 27, 2018
A40:
Dwight Howard ooh grin grin grin aye ti fe idi si Bobo yi sha! Literally grin grin
grin
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 3:24am On Nov 27, 2018
Roland17:
Which kain "juju" Rick Carlisle and him coaching staff work on top D. Jordan free throw? The man went from shooting 58% from the FT last season to now shooting over 80%!!!

No more Hack a Jodan..
the funny part is he refuses to talk about. no wan jix am lol grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 3:41am On Nov 27, 2018
birdman:
the funny part is he refuses to talk about. no wan jix am lol grin
His new routine includes barking or saying something to his bench before attempting the throw. Oh well, whatever works, I am happy for him.

His new free throw routine reminds me of Karl Malone (the mailman) at the free throw line whispering some words before his attempt.
Re: The NBA Begins by ipledge10(m): 5:13am On Nov 27, 2018
Rocket and Jazz this season...
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