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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:35pm On Dec 05, 2018
Shookonekilla:
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Please shut up
What is the name of the rifle the dss are carrying?
This is where you see how stupid some people are
Tell me the rounds per minute and the heat value as constant fire of that rifle ?
What is the recoil bias of an ak47 vs that combat rifle the dss use ?
So many ignorant dummies talking here

If you are bitten by Dog, dont infect me with your rabies. Put down your opinion and move-on

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by tintingz(m): 12:35pm On Dec 05, 2018
Shookonekilla:


Please next time if you do not know anything shut up

There is a reasons military around the world have ditched the ak47

To see stupid people here comparing it to the rc44 and the likes is annoying

Please this thread should be closed

The Nigeria military is given outdated weapons due to corrupt politicians and I see stupid people here trying g to justify the ak47?

When even the terrorists are using ar45

Nigeria is a waste
Another good point.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by bantudra: 12:36pm On Dec 05, 2018
Ekinematics:



One of the reasons why the vietnames war was lost by the American backed southern Vietnam was because of the use of AK47 by the Russian backed northern Vietnam. It's a very rugged assault rifle, can be use in almost every terrain, way more durable than most other rifles and very very good in wars and.

Ask yourself why the AK47 is the most popular rifle on earth today.

i heard the only thing aks are lackin is accuracy...

but their are better versions of aks...their are not only ak47s out their....
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by lexy2014: 12:36pm On Dec 05, 2018
Shookonekilla:


What is the full burst deflection ration of that rifle the dss carry ?

What is the rpm at full burst and semi ?

What is Caliber of ammunition does it fire ?

How can you compare the ak47 to this combat rifle ?

Only a stupid person does that

Only in Nigeria do you see people with zero combat experience who have no knowledge of weapons talking like I am seeing here

This is so aggravating

What rubbish are you all saying ?
Oga, no b quarrel. 4d fact that u no what u no, doesn't make u better than those who don't. U may knowledgeable in matters like this but u might b a novice in other areas. That's y I said no man on earth has a monopoly of knowledge. We are taught and then we teach. That's a fact of life. Am sure u weren't born with d knowledge u are boasting about. Respect is key. Don't display arrogance by looking down on people cos they don't no what u no. If u have knowledge, pls share but do it respectfully

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 12:36pm On Dec 05, 2018
DREAMZZZ:
which war had ak47 won?

Say again ?
Abeg no let me laff.

Vietnam, Afghanistan 1, Afghanistan 2, Namibia, Angola, Rwanda, Liberia,Congo, Chechnya, Kurdistan etc etc

The question should be where has the AK 47 lost a war ?
DaAwesome1:

had an uncle in the NE who said the NA is always outgunned by Bh guys with dshka machine guns and anti aircraft guns.. everytime our boys fight for a while then sprint for their lives

Boko haram uses AK47 as the primary weapon just like the NA. They are kicking the ass of the NA because of better motivation, superior tactics and organization.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by luckyogor(m): 12:37pm On Dec 05, 2018
Stop comparisons here,the Ak47 era is gone,our army complained seriously about it last here,it is gone,there are far better sophisticated weapons out there now.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Badtman(m): 12:37pm On Dec 05, 2018
Fynline:
Not all use AK 4. There is a shift already from AK47.
please counter the topic with these pictures
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by spiritedtete: 12:38pm On Dec 05, 2018
bantudra:


who cares...both kill...sooo,what....??

It's not about the kills... You can't go to war and you hold a tavor in a battle field where your enemy has AK-47 bro na mosquito you go kill o.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Born2Breed(f): 12:38pm On Dec 05, 2018
fkj950ax:
The rifle carried by the DSS is the FN2000, while the Army uses the AK57 (A variant of the AK47). Most are produced in Nigeria by DICON.
The AK is cheap, rugged, easily repaired with picking a disused one on the floor and swap parts and even magazine.

The FN2000 is designed for CQB (Close Quarter Battles), while the NGArmy do not engage in a lot of CQB.

The range of the FN2000 is 500m, while the AK57 is around 350m.

The major reason for use in Nigeria is price. The AK goes for $600, while the FS2000 goes for $1500. And we save on the $600 when we build locally at DICON.

So its more about cost consideration coupled with the design of the weapon.

Short and Long range,which is better?

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:38pm On Dec 05, 2018
tegafej:


That's serious.

But derailing, US SEALS don't use AKs... So there are better guns at warfare than AKs


Americans will never agree to anything Russian. AK is Russian. Americans using that is a psychological defeat. Remember the cold war between the US and Russia is still on going.

Yes there are better rifles, but when compared to the AK47 price wise most of those better rifles are more expensive. Ak47 usually get the needed job done.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by bantudra: 12:39pm On Dec 05, 2018
lexy2014:

Oga, no b quarrel. 4d fact that u no what u no, doesn't make u better than those who don't. U may knowledgeable in matters like this but u might b a novice in other areas. That's y I said no man on earth has a monopoly of knowledge. We are taught and then we teach. That's a fact of life. Am sure u weren't born with d knowledge u are boasting about. Respect is key. Don't display arrogance by looking down on people cos they don't no what u no. If u have knowledge, pls share but do it respectfully

as if he will listen....somebody that wants to shoot others in the balls....??

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by ClearFlair: 12:39pm On Dec 05, 2018
yusufu16:
I think AK 47 is an outdated riffle. Anytime I see DSS officer, my heart just melt.

Why cant our military officers have those modern rifles used by US marines to fight Boko Haram.

Below is what our DSS use.

Sophisticated doesn't mean it is multi-purpose. "Sophisticated weapons" used by the DSS are designed for close-range combat, whereas an AK-47 can be accurate for up to 350m without losing much power. There are better rifles out there too but you can't use the Tavor for long distance warfare. It fires fast but doesn't have the power of the AK-47.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:40pm On Dec 05, 2018
Fynline:
Not all use AK 4. There is a shift already from AK47.
Special forces I think.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by bantudra: 12:40pm On Dec 05, 2018
spiritedtete:


It's not about the kills... You can't go to war and you hold a tavor in a battle field where your enemy has AK-47 bro na mosquito you go kill o.

that tavor is too big for a dogfight....

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:40pm On Dec 05, 2018
DREAMZZZ:
which war had ak47 won?


It's obvious that you are not a student of history.
The AK47 has won more wars than any other rifle.
Apart from the fact that's it's cheaper than most rifles, it's about the most durable.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:41pm On Dec 05, 2018
I don't think laser guns are better than AKs just that AKs tend to overheat and this affects it's performance after a long time on operation.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by greenprince(m): 12:41pm On Dec 05, 2018
QDubz:


Lol, like there say the more sweat you shed in training, the lesser you bleed in the battlefield.

Totally agree, I lowkey miss not going into the military full time.

Maybe later I will... I still feel that adrenaline rush anytime I see them in formation.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Born2Breed(f): 12:41pm On Dec 05, 2018
Shookonekilla:
[s][/s]wtf

He told you a.load of garbage and you accepted as truth ?

What is the kill zone diameter of an ak47 vs the combat rifle the dss carry ?

Infact what is the model the dss carry ?

What is the recoil angle per burst of that rifle vs ak47?

What he typed was total garbage

That rifle is a hundred times better than the ak47

Unku, you too dey vex and I guess you are a military man.
Just tell us the difference.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by sleek214(m): 12:41pm On Dec 05, 2018
boko haram will collect it from our soldiers.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Mrbaz1: 12:42pm On Dec 05, 2018
FarahAideed:
Pound for pound the AK47 is a better and more deadly rifle by every yardstick ...The Tarvor BullPup is just a carbine for close qtr fire fights and can't stand the AK 47 in any yardstick ..May Ignorance not let us make the wrong choices in Jesus Name
Ameeeeen OOO.. Before bubu and Dan bazau enter
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by BrainnewsNg(f): 12:42pm On Dec 05, 2018
AK47 is the best so far..
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by udemzyudex(m): 12:42pm On Dec 05, 2018
Shookonekilla:
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See the nonsense this one is typing?

Ak 47 doesn't not work in water or when flooded
.the tavor does (what the dss carry I'd a tarvor)

Close your mouth sometimes and stop talking nonsense

Tarvor doesn't jam , ak47 does notoriously

Tarvor has a longer range of fire and better recoil than the ak47

Please shut up


You're the one posting nonsense here Oga, talking confidently with ignorance about Ak47
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by peeps4u: 12:44pm On Dec 05, 2018
kingharzy:

undecided

I pray your quest for knowledge leads you to that part of our constitution that spells out everything regarding firearms.
You can take this as both an advice and the riots act. . . . I OUT

Don't be ignorant bro.
I know about illegal possession of firearms.

How does having knowledge about firearms equate to possession of firearms.

Firearms knowledge which can easily be found on net like this thread.

Unless you want to tell me having knowledge about firearms is a crime

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Nobody: 12:44pm On Dec 05, 2018
bantudra:


i heard the only thing aks are lackin is accuracy...

but their are better versions of aks...their are not only ak47s out their....

True!
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by QDubz(m): 12:45pm On Dec 05, 2018
greenprince:


Totally agree, I lowkey miss not going into the military full time.

Maybe later I will... I still feel that adrenaline rush anytime I see them in formation.

what all this civilians fail to understand is that a weapon is only as efficient as the person operating it.
And that ak kicks like a mule, hurts the shoulder but the stopping power is what it.
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Okoyeebos: 12:45pm On Dec 05, 2018
Hoodbilonia:
balls u cant survive it
bullet proof dey chest na

There are some bullet proof vests that cover the balls too. I've seen it on TV with RRS officers in Lagos.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by oglalasioux(m): 12:48pm On Dec 05, 2018
Lol

How many DSS operatives are there? Do you know how much each of those guns sell?

Nigeria can't equip her army with such sophisticated weapons. We can afford them but corruption won't allow.

The automatic kalashnikov 47 is cheaper and more abundant.

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by BrainnewsNg(f): 12:51pm On Dec 05, 2018
tstx:
In war what matters is how many rounds your weapon can expunge in a minute... Thats where Ak47 comes in.... Ak47 is the most deadly riffle ever made @op

Thanks man

One of the best comments here
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by okrikaboi: 12:52pm On Dec 05, 2018
This thread just made me miss my movie "shooter"
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Fidelismaria: 12:52pm On Dec 05, 2018
grin grin

Since everybody is talking

Make me too talk

I no go carry last

I personally think revolver is better than those two

I mean why carry all that weight you can just pocket a revolver

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Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Pharaoh9(m): 12:53pm On Dec 05, 2018
Okoyeebos:


The AK 47 commonly seen around fires 600 rounds per minute. Original one does 700.

Tavor does 750 to 900 rounds per minute but it's for close encounters and is not as rugged as the AK.

Before your Tavor rounds can reach a target, the AK has already dropped its target.

The best and most complete AKs in Nigeria are with policemen in the SPU. They are the policemen in blue caps and guard VIPs
Re: Why Do DSS Carry Sophisticated Weapons Than Our Soldiers by Okoyeebos: 12:53pm On Dec 05, 2018
tegafej:


That's serious.

But derailing, US SEALS don't use AKs... So there are better guns at warfare than AKs

Sure
There are far better rifles depending on the task at hand.

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