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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by bantudra: 12:00pm On Dec 09, 2018
banom:
Thanks to all of you who have been debating, and more importantly to those with contrary opinion from mine: those who think it's better we participate in the election than to boycott it. I appreciate.

Now let me tackle some of the issues you raised as to why we should vote.

One of the points you raised as to why we should not boycott the election is to "help vote out Buhari " this point while seeming to sound patriotic since Buhari has proven to be a national disaster, makes me think you guys somehow thinks we Biafrans are foolish people politically.

Four years ago when the mad man came on board, we told you people he will be a national disaster you refused to listen, called us hateful and inconsequential and went ahead to elect the most unworthy candidate of the lots to be our president. You wildly celebrated the victory of your choice over ours, but you never knew it was gonna be a Pyrrhic Victory.

Now he has brought sufferings and disgrace to you all, and you now want our vote to help vote him out. The answer is CAPITAL NO. we are not going to be part of any election to vote him out for the simple reason that we didn't vote him in. You guys did, so it's your exclusive responsibility to show him the way out. Even the Buhari himself openly acknowledged that we never voted for him when he made his famous 5% and 97% comment, and to your evil delight promised that he will treat us with contempt. Now it has downed on you people that we are not the only one feeling the brunt of his stupidity. Incompetence and bigotrism, you now want us to help on the rescue. We will not, if you know that 97% votes you gave him four years ago, just withdraw it and give it another candidate and he will lose. mathematically We will even be making the job easy for you by abcentending our 5% .

Helping to vote out Buhari is risky for we Biafrans. It will only deepen his hatred for us. and he can harm us with the remaining time he has to stay in power and when that start happening, the same you people who are here encouraging us to vote will be the ones laughing at us. Our mumu don do.

their we disagree with you...we still dont think buhari is that useless....

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by bantudra: 12:02pm On Dec 09, 2018
jonathan was useless and not buhari accordin to our opinion....

what now....??

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Warship: 12:03pm On Dec 09, 2018
Donelli:


Hmmm...

You make sense sha, my concern is legality. As long as we don't give this corrupt government a legitimate platform to fight us.

Do you generate or earn a monthly income of at least 70k.

If yes, research and work on the following:

1) Extraction of pure cellulose from lignocellulose materials especially from ones abundant within Biafra eg palm oil fibre, saw dusts etc.

2) Nitrification of pure cellulose.

3) Fabrication of axial compressors.

4) Fabrication of centrifugal compressors.

5) Mass Recycling of Iron, steel and metallic wastes.

6) Application of axial and centrifugal compressors in Air Vehicles.

7) Application of Nitrated Cellulose.


If You Are Very Determine To Help IPOB, Do These 7 and Pass Across Your Findings To Them and Watch What Will Happen.
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by banom(m): 12:07pm On Dec 09, 2018
bantudra:


their we disagree with you...we still dont think buhari is that useless....

Congratulations. Then vote him for a second tenure. What's our business .
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by banom(m): 12:14pm On Dec 09, 2018
demolinka:
This referendum you profer, will it be in the south east or nation wide? And in the case the biafra concept scores a minority in the results, does it put paid to biafra?



We are asking for a referendum to be conducted in all south east states and all south south states minus Edo state. And of course if during the referendum majority votes in favour of staying in Nigeria we will stay put in Nigeria and that will permanently bury the issue of BIAFRA.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 12:24pm On Dec 09, 2018
Warship:


Do you generate or earn a monthly income of at least 70k.

If yes, research and work on the following:

1) Extraction of pure cellulose from lignocellulose materials especially from ones abundant within Biafra eg palm oil fibre, saw dusts etc.

2) Nitrification of pure cellulose.

3) Fabrication of axial compressors.

4) Fabrication of centrifugal compressors.

5) Mass Recycling of Iron, steel and metallic wastes.

6) Application of axial and centrifugal compressors in Air Vehicles.

7) Application of Nitrated Cellulose.


If You Are Very Determine To Help IPOB, Do These 7 and Pass Across Your Findings To Them and Watch What Will Happen.
All these thing be like things wey fit go "kablaam!"
Noted sir wink
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 12:26pm On Dec 09, 2018
bantudra:


na you say regions are not indepedent...am just tellin you they are to a degree already independent and used sharia as an example....

if states were not realy indepedent a nation wide sharia law would have been implemented....
Independent in name or in economy?

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Donelli: 12:29pm On Dec 09, 2018
bantudra:


oyel doesnt matter that much no more....oyel matter because its a steady income....the income is not that high no more,but its still a steady income till today....
Na still thesame thing we dey talk bros. Which state for Nigeria fit bone oil money generate value independently? Before you mention Lagos, I can tell you that Lagos thrives on taxes.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Na wetin Lagos be.
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by dokie: 12:33pm On Dec 09, 2018
Donelli:

You have a very interesting perspective sir. However, I also want to point out that it is one thing to gain political control of the south east, yet it still does not translate to actualizing the demand for referendum because two-third majority vote in the national assembly is required.

Ojukwu you mentioned was already in charge of a cohesive region. I read also, that he was even given a marching order to declare not like he was prone to secession in the first instance. He was still pressing for peaceful negotiations and calling on the world to see to it that Gowon respects the Aburi accord.

If we ran a regional government your model would have been workable but no matter the hand you deal, you'll still be at the mercy of the caliphate as long as it is a central government.

You will notice in my post that I said I didn't want to go further in highlighting further steps that have the potential to lead to the actualization of Biafra, but that holding the political power in the south east has limitless possibilities.

Civil disobedience is very powerful. Now in an IPOB controlled south east compliance with such directives would be near absolute.

With that said, I do not believe we can have Biafra until there is a major restructuring of the country, where states or regions run their affairs. If IPOB is in the leadership of the South East, they will consistently throw their support behind presidential candidates that are inclined to restructuring. Once restructuring is achieved and the states or regions are in charge of their resources and security, Biafra would be nearer.
In such a situation, the struggle will be as strong as that of Catalonia if not more powerful.

All this will take a reasonable amount of time though so proper planning and patience is key.

The present method and call for boycott will only alienate the South east from mainstream politics without achieving anything in the struggle.

But if IPOB believe otherwise, they can continue in the path they are on, and let's have this discussion again in 10 years to evaluate the level of success made.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by demolinka(m): 12:35pm On Dec 09, 2018
banom:


We are asking for a referendum to be conducted in all south east states and all south south states minus Edo state. And of course if during the referendum majority votes in favour of staying in Nigeria we will stay put in Nigeria and that will permanently bury the issue of BIAFRA.

In essence you concede to the fact that Edo is not part of the proposed biafra region. Why do you include other south south states given the recent clamour for a Niger Delta republic in some quarters and the insistence on the non inclusion of the ijaw people in the biafran prospect by groups like the IYC? Do you have any research to show a majority or an overwhelming number of the SS people wish to be biafrans?

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Switpal(m): 12:38pm On Dec 09, 2018
dokie:


The bolded is the issue.

Having absolute boycott of elections or any other form of civil disobedience is totally impossible under the present circumstance. At least 50% of igbos living within and outside the south east will not engage in civil disobedience. Why? Because some of them do not want to secede and the others do not believe that the process will yield any result in the crude Nigerian system of today where the government does not give a damn if it's citizens live or die for as long as they keep their positions and the oil money is flowing. And if Civil disobedience is not consistently absolute it cannot achieve its purpose.

Nnamdi Kanu is jumping the gun. He seems to have forgotten that the Biafra struggle started before he was born and does not necessarily need to be actualized in his lifetime. If he did, he would have realized that one needs to be more strategic in approach, take it the extent he can, and another person takes it from there.

The initial steps NK took to garner support and large followership was great and should have been consolidated upon for the next ideal level which was to take over south east political leadership. And don't say votes don't count it's not true. IPOB has the capacity to win 80% of the electoral seats in igboland. You cannot be rigged out in a place where you have overwhelming support, it cannot happen. But unfortunately he went to declare election boycott which was a penalty to throwing kinda thing.

If he had done that, IPOB would have had political power in 2019, and further consolidated in 2023. I don't want to go further than this regarding further steps after getting the power but know that holding the political power of the south east has limitless possibilities for the Biafran struggle. Ojukwu was able to declare Biafra simply because he was in control of the government of the eastern region.

A good example of what power can do is Catalonia where most if not the entire political class are in support of the secession. See the impact they are making. Theirs is a question of time, while ours is a question of how (under the present circumstance). .

Now, that opportunity has been lost and elections will hold and the boycott will not achieve anything because most igbos with pvc will vote, especially with the Peter Obi factor, and the hatred for Buhari.

In a nutshell 'absolute' boycott cannot be achieved. what could have been achieved (and can still be achieved but in the next election season), is a major participation to enthrone IPOB members in the seat of power, and continue the struggle from that point.

God bless you my brother. It's exactly my point.

Nnamdi kanu mismanaged his FAME and victim mentality will never get us anywhere. We need to face the reality and use what we have to our advantage.

With a selfless political leader (which NK is) and our PVC...

Do you know that we (Igbos) can determine who govern Lagos and most states in Nigeria with our bloc votes?

Election boycott won't get us anywhere but participation and a political agenda will.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by kanubiafra: 12:41pm On Dec 09, 2018
Donelli:

You have spoken well. Read the bolded again, pause, reflect on it. wink

You really believe there won't be crises...Who takes over the government?
thats it for me exactly crisis is key but we have to make sure we have allies that will be on our side bearing in mind that if not well handled nigeria will try to use it to justify the terror tag on ipob

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by banom(m): 12:56pm On Dec 09, 2018
demolinka:


In essence you concede to the fact that Edo is not part of the proposed biafra region. Why do you include other south south states given the recent clamour for a Niger Delta republic in some quarters and the insistence on the non inclusion of the ijaw people in the biafran prospect by groups like the IYC? Do you have any research to show a majority or an overwhelming number of the SS people wish to be biafrans?

The other parts of south south states included are the parts that formed the old eastern region. The parts that fought the biafran war. That is the justification for their inclusion. Edo has no such justification.
as for IYC, Its just an organisation. The ultimate decision lies with the people. And that is the reason we are demanding for a referendum Which gives everyone a voice. Is after the referendum you can honestly tell if the majority of the ijaws want to be part of Biarfra or not.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by artofseduction: 1:11pm On Dec 09, 2018
Warship:




Did the boycott of Anambra State election, caused a power vacuum in the state.?

Thank you my brother.

Lets be honest with ourselves.

PRIDE is KANU PROBLEM.

Boycotting elections will worsen our situation.

IPOB was declared a terrorist organization because the Governors advised the F2F 2 do so.


Imagine if IPOB controls the SE political block.

Wallahi, the FG would've given them a referendum.

They can even push for an independence government, lobby the international communities politically.

Dre is something these Igbos don't understand.

The UN will never give u referendum because its being controlled by countries that have separatist agitations in their home countries.

If they do, they will be giving them hope to push forward their own demand.

These includes
USA (California )
UK (Scotland )
Spain (Catalonia )
Russia (Crimea /Ukraine etc)
CHINA (Taiwan)

If these countries has separatist issues in their own countries
While will they want to risk it to give Biafran referendum.

IPOB should open their eyes and stop swallowing whatever jargons KANU throws at them people.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by artofseduction: 1:24pm On Dec 09, 2018
Donelli:

I'm curious about these points you raised.

The first highlight suggests that since it hasn't been done, it can not be done.

The second highlight is rather reactive. In my opinion, voting with that mindset is even counterproductive...that's how we got ourselves in this mess in the first place.

For the third highlight, I actually find it amusing because I don't see that happening in another 10 years.

Most people who have similar reasoning with the fourth highlight makes one believe we don't pay attention to history. This same suggestion was tried out by Ojukwu and we all know how it turned out.

In my opinion, I think it's rather absurd that we're even discussing this because the system is clearly messed up and those who are passionately advocating for voting are not doing so for its effectiveness or absolute believe in it but due to it being a "safer" way. It's just similar to a case of waiting for the stench to ease off rather than searching for and evacuating the rotting mouse that died because it's too much work. undecided

Lets be honest with ourselves.

PRIDE is KANU PROBLEM.

Boycotting elections will worsen our situation.

Boycotting Elections has not worked anywhere in the world, from all understanding it can't even work cos dre re 6 geopolitical zones in Nigeria and our laws just require just 3 people votes to get a winner.

Does IPOB even have a strategy?
Getting a restructured Nigeria seems a simpler approach and by the time these regions gets used to existing independently and with IPOB Politically controlled SE you can push for independence.

Dre is an adage that says
"Better doing something than nothing.

And boycotting elections is doing nothing. Anambra Election is an example.

IPOB was declared a terrorist organization because the Governors advised the FG 2 do so.


Imagine if IPOB controls the SE political block.

Wallahi, the FG would've given them a referendum.
Cos d political pressure from this region is enough to get a referendum.

They can even push for an independence government, lobby the international communities politically.

Dre is something you Igbos don't understand.

The UN will never give u referendum because its being controlled by countries that have separatist agitations in their home countries.

If they do, they will be giving them hope to push forward their own demand.

These includes
USA (California )
UK (Scotland )
Spain (Catalonia )
Russia (Crimea /Ukraine etc)
CHINA (Taiwan)

If these countries has separatist issues in their own countries
While will they want to risk it to give Biafran referendum.

The only time thiscan happen is if we rebel against the FG and the World sees d referendum as a solution to end a Civil war.
Yemen is an example.

But we don't hv d fire power

IPOB should open their eyes and stop swallowing whatever jargons KANU throws at them.

Boycotting elections portrays doom for Biafrans.

The music is still loud, this may be d opportunity for to become a formidable force.

As I said b4, if you boycotting elections makes BUHARI president.

Hell will be let loose on SE and it will be 2 late.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Warship: 1:30pm On Dec 09, 2018
artofseduction:


Thank you my brother.

Lets be honest with ourselves.

PRIDE is KANU PROBLEM.

Boycotting elections will worsen our situation.

IPOB was declared a terrorist organization because the Governors advised the F2F 2 do so.


Imagine if IPOB controls the SE political block.

Wallahi, the FG would've given them a referendum.

They can even push for an independence government, lobby the international communities politically.

Dre is something these Igbos don't understand.

The UN will never give u referendum because its being controlled by countries that have separatist agitations in their home countries.

If they do, they will be giving them hope to push forward their own demand.

These includes
USA (California )
UK (Scotland )
Spain (Catalonia )
Russia (Crimea /Ukraine etc)
CHINA (Taiwan)

If these countries has separatist issues in their own countries
While will they want to risk it to give Biafran referendum.

IPOB should open their eyes and stop swallowing whatever jargons KANU throws at them people.


To be honest with you, Kanu has made his point about who truly has the support of the people.

Any further calls for election boycott that can not grant us a Referendum, is counterproductive.

Kanu should focus more on:

1) Winning more international support.

2) Militarily prepare for forceful secession if necessary.

3) Enlightening the international community about the threat to existence and marginalization of the Biafrans.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Warship: 1:33pm On Dec 09, 2018
demolinka:


In essence you concede to the fact that Edo is not part of the proposed biafra region. Why do you include other south south states given the recent clamour for a Niger Delta republic in some quarters and the insistence on the non inclusion of the ijaw people in the biafran prospect by groups like the IYC? Do you have any research to show a majority or an overwhelming number of the SS people wish to be biafrans?


Edo people especially the Binis are empire builders just like the Yoruba.

Including them into a nation made up of Republican ethnic groups may not be the best.
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by demolinka(m): 1:37pm On Dec 09, 2018
Well from your statement, Delta State would not be a part of biafra, since it belonged to the Midwest region which was renamed Bendel, circa 1976.
All these technicalities which can be easily exploited only underline the 'where' question of the referendum for biafra. Seems there's no serious thought about the effects of possible outcomes of the proposed referendum...just latching onto sentiments that I believe are fundamentally flawed. Like what happens if an overwhelming Igbo majority vote Yes as against minority tribes with no clear deciding answer...what happens to the legitimacy of the referendum exercise as a tool for establishing the biafran state founded on inclusivity and fairness?

And just like IYC, IPOB is just an organization
banom:


The other parts of south south states included are the parts that formed the old eastern region. The parts that fought the biafran war. That is the justification for their inclusion. Edo has no such justification.
as for IYC, Its just an organisation. The ultimate decision lies with the people. And that is the reason we are demanding for a referendum Which gives everyone a voice. Is after the referendum you can honestly tell if the majority of the ijaws want to be part of Biarfra or not.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by demolinka(m): 1:46pm On Dec 09, 2018
Fair enough...but a handful of historical facts also lend credence to the empire building nature of ijaw people, whom you seek to include in the proposed referendum.



Warship:



Edo people especially the Binis are empire builders just like the Yoruba.

Including them into a nation made up of Republican ethnic groups may not be the best.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by artofseduction: 1:48pm On Dec 09, 2018
kanubiafra:
do you know that they pledge to defend the territorial int of nigeria while taking oath of office ? doing otherwise will only earn you an impeachment. guy pls google "election boycott", "civil disobedeince"

A Governor can only be impeached by the state Assembly and since you controlling it so?

A SENATOR can only be recalled by His constituency and since the same people voted home to do hi bidding. So?

Google what?

Bros, this is Africa.
Boycotting elections has never given any people independence but involving themselves has given many people referendum.

Si what exactly are you talking about?
Didn't IPOB boycot Anambra Election?
What happened?

Obiano won and today he is supporting someone who murdered our brothers,sisters and mothers in cold blood.

That is what boycotting an election does to you.

Imagine if IPOB had a candidate and campaigned vigorously and passionately d way they've been doing.

Even INEC will be scared to rig that election.

Wake up.

Why must u try something that has never worked?

Try something that has worked.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by artofseduction: 1:53pm On Dec 09, 2018
dokie:


You will notice in my post that I said I didn't want to go further in highlighting further steps that have the potential to lead to the actualization of Biafra, but that holding the political power in the south east has limitless possibilities.

Civil disobedience is very powerful. Now in an IPOB controlled south east compliance with such directives would be near absolute.

With that said, I do not believe we can have Biafra until there is a major restructuring of the country, where states or regions run their affairs. If IPOB is in the leadership of the South East, they will consistently throw their support behind presidential candidates that are inclined to restructuring. Once restructuring is achieved and the states or regions are in charge of their resources and security, Biafra would be nearer.
In such a situation, the struggle will be as strong as that of Catalonia if not more powerful.

All this will take a reasonable amount of time though so proper planning and patience is key.

The present method and call for boycott will only alienate the South east from mainstream politics without achieving anything in the struggle.

But if IPOB believe otherwise, they can continue in the path they are on, and let's have this discussion again in 10 years to evaluate the level of success made.
Preach brother
I don't know where they re getting their strategy from.

Boycotting Elections will destroy us completely.
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by artofseduction: 2:00pm On Dec 09, 2018
kid23:
Boycott of elections is what is highly needed in Nigeria Right now.

We need a revolution, it starts somewhere we have been voting and yet nothing seems to be working we need not repeat d same mistakes it high time we do try alternatives

Pls i beg you in d name of God

How does boycotting elections give you referendum.



Which country has it worked before?

Why don't you try something that has worked?

Do you even understand our electoral laws?
Buhari or anybody needs just three people to cast a vote in each region to declare them the winner.

State elections is even worse.
Only one vote is enough.

You people should use ur sense na.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Warship: 2:12pm On Dec 09, 2018
demolinka:
Fair enough...but a handful of historical facts also lend credence to the empire building nature of ijaw people, whom you seek to include in the proposed referendum.





Not true

Ijaws never enslaved other ethnic groups like Bini and Yoruba people who built their empires on enslaving other ethnic groups.
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by victorvezx(m): 2:17pm On Dec 09, 2018
highcollide:
It is shocking that Nigerians disregard the above. That a white man and his prostitute woke up and determined the destiny of millions of people. Shocking!!
That was how almost every African, Caribbean and South American countries were formed. Colonizer doing what ever they like to their conquered people. Stop acting dumb as if it only happened in Nigeria.
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by Nobody: 2:26pm On Dec 09, 2018
victorvezx:

That was how almost every African, Caribbean and South American countries were formed. Colonizer doing what ever they like to their conquered people. Stop acting dumb as if it only happened in Nigeria.
fool, how about you think like Ghana and change your name and system of governance?

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by victorvezx(m): 2:37pm On Dec 09, 2018
highcollide:
fool, how about you think like Ghana and change your name and system of governance?
Name change wont put food on the table of the average Nigerian. Nigeria actually changed it system of government. We practiced true federalism from 1960 to 1967, until an Igbo leader, Ironsi, destroyed that system that worked in favor of a central government. And this happened after a disastrous Igbo led coup.
Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by demolinka(m): 3:00pm On Dec 09, 2018
Wrong. How do you think they spread far from source from 500BC - 1000AD? Or did the infamous war commander, Prince ijo, not subdue hostile tribes during his quests? Or didn't they have enough slaves to trade the Portuguese during their early exchanges?

Warship:



Not true

Ijaws never enslaved other ethnic groups like Bini and Yoruba people who built their empires on enslaving other ethnic groups.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by BigIyanga: 3:02pm On Dec 09, 2018
banom:


We have been voting and they have been rulling us, and at the same time issuing shoot at sight order on us. So can you now tell me the difference if we decide not to vote anymore?
You still obey their instructions and laws! Separation is legal/constitutional process not boycott process. If you dont wont vote, they’ll appoint an administrator for you.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by oyatz(m): 3:11pm On Dec 09, 2018
I don't think the IPOB leadership and their supporters have this level of exposure, knowledge and education.




artofseduction:
M engaging u

Pls be logical with your points and don't throw tantrums


Can u in all honesty explain to me how boycotting elections will give you referendum and give examples of countries where it has worked.


Let me give you reasons why IPOB Should participate fully in politics.

First the present occupant of that seat i the worst person IPOB will wish to be there.

The Python dance u re seeing now is d tip of the iceberg cos he is coming back for another term. But come next year, na crocodile dance una go c.

First thing first
Get someone who will even dialogue with u instead unleashing military on u.


Separatist all over the world involve themselves in politics
Scotland
Catalonia
Kurds
Ireland's
California
Etc

In absence of this, d only option left for IPOB is to rebel and since you don't have the fire power. So what else?

IPOB should've adopted.a political party even if u can't muster presidential candidate

Have governors, National Assembly members

Take over the SE Political block and from their u plan economically and politically.


Lets be honest with ourselves.

PRIDE is KANU PROBLEM.

Boycotting elections will worsen our situation.

IPOB was declared a terrorist organization because the Governors advised the F2F 2 do so.


Imagine if IPOB controls the SE political block.

Wallahi, the FG would've given them a referendum.

They can even push for an independence government, lobby the international communities politically.

Dre is something these Igbos don't understand.

The UN will never give u referendum because its being controlled by countries that have separatist agitations in their home countries.

If they do, they will be giving them hope to push forward their own demand.

These includes
USA (California )
UK (Scotland )
Spain (Catalonia )
Russia (Crimea /Ukraine etc)
CHINA (Taiwan)

If these countries has separatist issues in their own countries
While will they want to risk it to give Biafran referendum.

IPOB should open their eyes and stop swallowing whatever jargons KANU throws at them people.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by banom(m): 3:29pm On Dec 09, 2018
There is something I noticed about those advising us to participate in the election, they are mainly pdp members and atiku supporters who are banking on our votes to win the election. They don't care about Biafrans, all they care for are our votes. They hide this their real motive under the cloak of voting will give you voice, voting will help you control the government, voting will help you to vote out Buhari and elect a person who will listen to your call for referendum ( this is subtly suggesting atiku to be the one). They say this as if votes even count in Nigeria..

This is rubbish to me. You say it as if there is no precedence. We have been voting for time immemorial what has come out of it? Absolutely Nothing. How can we bank on Atiku when he is a dubious and duplicious person and is not in any way different from Buhari. Was it not the same Atiku that was talking about restructuring before the python dance. And immediately after the python dance and he thought nnamdi kanu was dead, he and other restructuring advocates muted the idea.

Let me tell you people what you are actually trying to do . You are subtly trying to lay a trap for IPOB by luring us to get involved into Nigerian politics. You did the same thing to Ojukwu and disgraced him to the point of making sure he was defeated by an unknown commissioner at the time in a position as small as a Senate election. You made sure he lost even in his own backyard. And that striped him most of the influence he had on igbos. In the end, what did be gain? Absolutely nothing and he lost everything. Including how history will remember him. And what did Biafrans gain from his involvement in Nigerian politics ? The answer too is nothing. We are still being marginalised and treated like 3rd class citizens. As if it wasn't all of us that helped achieve Nigeria's independence.

If there is one thing I like about Nnamdi Kanu, it's his knowledge of history and his uncanny ability to see and calculate several steps ahead. From the onset, he knew that going about the agitation through a political route will not yield anything. For instance, from the beginning, he identified that one of the major stumbling blocks in the agitation will come from Igbo political class. These are men and women who are already established and benefiting from the corrupt Nigerian political system. And will continue benefiting from it in so many years ahead.

Some of them are first time sitting governors who are almost guaranteed to go for a second term as governors and then thereafter go and spend the next 8-12 years in the Senate house. Is it such a person who will be hugely benefiting from the existence of Nigeria for the next 16-20 years that you will bank on to risk or leave it and help you actualise your freedom ? They don't care about the common man. They only care about themselves and their family members.

If at anytime Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB deviates from the current method they are using to agitate for Biafra and start seeking political method and political positions in Nigeria they will mess the whole agitation up. They will fall into that same trap Ojukwu fail into, and they will regret it. Though I strongly believe Kanu is too intelligent to even give such an foolish idea a second thought.

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by kanubiafra: 3:44pm On Dec 09, 2018
artofseduction:


A Governor can only be impeached by the state Assembly and since you controlling it so?

A SENATOR can only be recalled by His constituency and since the same people voted home to do hi bidding. So?

Google what?

Bros, this is Africa.
Boycotting elections has never given any people independence but involving themselves has given many people referendum.

Si what exactly are you talking about?
Didn't IPOB boycot Anambra Election?
What happened?

Obiano won and today he is supporting someone who murdered our brothers,sisters and mothers in cold blood.

That is what boycotting an election does to you.

Imagine if IPOB had a candidate and campaigned vigorously and passionately d way they've been doing.

Even INEC will be scared to rig that election.

Wake up.

Why must u try something that has never worked?

Try something that has worked.
how has voting worked for you in nigeria since the advent of our democracy?

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Re: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by banom(m): 3:45pm On Dec 09, 2018
oyatz:
I don't think the IPOB leadership and their supporters have this level of exposure, knowledge and education.





With this your comment, you just exposed your ignorance and lack of education in a public forum without knowing it. You are obviously a product of failed Nigerian educational system who is lucky enough to borrow a browsing phone with 5mb in it.

No point enlightening you much, I will only remind you that without IPOB unmatched intelligence you would have been calling a Sudanees man your president today.

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