Ugosample:
why the hidden post tho

Someone mentioned me in that comment but did not get to read it

That was me, but i always get banned when i write in French..... They brought the post back up, check it out

sodres:
What if I say despite all this ( life in USA is hard, one will suffer, deportation, no help, akatas are wicked, insult, racist, bla bla bla BS) if i have the chance to land into USA even without a visa or passport I won't even think twice police/immigration-officials go chase me tire. Like you guys have any idea how much I've suffered here already? Even a 60years old American might probably never suffer half of what I've suffered in mah lifetime here in naija and Some of y'all are are living in a better/sane country and your telling us not to come both illegal/legally? Ona father. We die there. God punish naija politicians nonsense

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So in your sane mind,there are no poor people in America??.one thing you should realise is,society cannot breed equals.stop blaming your government entirely but instead focus on your situation because a lot others are making it big in the same country you are cussing.

Lawyer777:


Bros, we nor dey quarrel, but abeg stop quoting me. I stated the truth and that's 100% fact. Stick to what you know and your belief or quote exactly where I advised people to do the wrong or is having a Tax ID illegal in the US?

We are our own problem in Nigeria. Leave people who chose to travel alone, and stop thinking everyone who travels to the US finds it difficult to start a living and adjust status.

So because I said change your friends, it means throw your friends away? Ok.

Nigerians will always make the US sound like Hell to others. Are Nigerians the only people immigratint to the US? Visit a USCIS office to know Nigeria is not even on top 10 countries with people adjusting status in the US.

What's so difficult in starting a life in the US when you can start as a dishwasher and get paid $100 daily? Did you come here to eat burger alone?

I repeat, the people you connect with in the US matters a lot. I'll stop here to end this topic

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Of course we are not quarreling and I quoted you for reference and it's no offense because it's a public forum.
So how far can you go as a dishwasher with $100 per day??.
Hahaha...I guess this is what you mean by being successful.ok now continue...lmao!!!!.

MrBrownJay1:


Here you are again writing ARRANT GIBBERISH!!!!



And that is a very Poor choice of example because, AGAIN, life/marriage back in our parents days is way different than now.... Expecting anyone to live/act today like in the past is not only wrong but also very foolish.



Look at all the ARRANT IRRELEVANT GIBBERISH you just wrote... Do you even understand English?!
NONSENSE #1 you talk of immigration to the US with a green card gained via visa lottery while this issue is about someone who plans to relocate to the US without a valid visa to immigrate to the US.

NONSENSE #2 if a married person gains a visa lottery then he/she can simply add their spouse (and even minor children) to their successful application. There is NO NEED for their spouse to be left behind. The people who go back, after few years for their spouse, are usually those who leave without a valid mean to work/live in the US (aka the OP issue) and get married in the US to gain legal means to stay in the US..... thus when they finally get permanent residency (or citizenship) they go back for their partner. Now there is nothing wrong with that (to each their own misery) but as i stated earlier, if that's the plan then let BOTH party agree to it BEFORE leaving (aka having a common plan)



What theory exactly are you talking about?! The one i gave 2buffagain about this issue not being a straightforward one, or the theory i gave you about what it means to be in a r/ship?!?!?!?!?!

Here it is again:

Perhaps go back to your initial post and read the bold part that I highlighted instead of behaving like a chimp.

If you are in a r/ship with a woman that wants to move indefinitely to the other side of the world (talking about coming back FOR YOU instead of going there WITH YOU )

This made no mention of greencard or no greencard, just a general statement which encompasses all groups, this is what I called BS on and gave you the example of how it was done back then and was still in vogue as recent as 2009. Your BS theory is just that, BS! Now to challenge your other BS statements, if your spouse won the visa lottery and you never included them in the initial application, you run the risk of visa fraud, many have been denied just for that, but moving on we are talking mostly about BF/GF relationships as stated in the OP, goodluck convincing a VO that you got married after the application. Like I said earlier, your lack of exposure is exposing your limitations, your heart might be in the right place but you just can't make generalized statements and expect everyone to marvel in your BS.....

Naijaforeigner:
Am I seeing double? See the number of people viewing this thread (almost 50 people) by this time of the night? People don’t sleep in naija again?

I am awake cos it is 7:39pm in Ontario at the moment.

OP your post is so on point. It is the ladies I always pity in all of this.

chief, I greet you. If I don't Wanna migrate to Canada through the skilled route, can I migrate through applying for short term courses and possibly get a job?

Admitwithschola:


You were against absolutes and I agreed with you..But you have made an absolute here..I'm referring to the "you have no business...."

It is actually possible to get partial (not full) tuition waiver and work your way here while you study...I say this because the friend I referred to in my earlier message did this, and a family member did it too..But three bad things fit happen..1) Grades will suffer, 2) The person can overwork and thus destroy their social security records and 3) The person can be frustrated out of schooling..

But in terms of possibility, it's possible. I know so. However, in general, your point holds a lot of water...E go harrrrrrd. The partial funding needs to be close to 100% to increase the possibility of pulling it off.

It is much easier, as you said, if people came to the US fully funded, i.e if dem get tuition waiver plus monthly stipend. Many Nigerians get such opportunity - a lot. Abi me I get am for 2009/2010..Lol.

how can I get the tuition waiver and monthly stipend? I finished with an HND sha

abbey621:


Perhaps go back to your initial post and read the bold part that I highlighted instead of behaving like a chimp.

What kind of deluded person only takes PART of my whole post and then says i see things in black and white..... Maybe, Juste maybe, you should use your Brain and read the whole statement again.....here it is: Whether that woman has a valid green card (or not) is irrelevant/secondary here.... If you are in a r/ship with a woman that wants to move indefinitely to the other side of the world (talking about coming back FOR YOU instead of going there WITH YOU ) then thats the moment you guys should accept reality and part ways, as its obvious you guys have different life plans.

now if these guys have similar life plans to move to their eldorado (aka US) then they should sit down and decide how they will attain such feat, in an intelligent/plausible way. If your babe says she is leaving to the US with no plans whatsoever (but a tourist visa) then she needs a mind resetting dirty slap Asap.

This made no mention of greencard or no greencard, just a general statement which encompasses all groups, this is what I called BS on and gave you the example of how it was done back then and was still in vogue as recent as 2009.

What the hell are you talking about?! EVERYTHING WRITTEN ON THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE OP's INITIAL POST.... Now do you know what it is or do i have to spell it for you?! You foolishly came for my post who was a response to a the subject at hand, aka a woman wanting to move to the States WITHOUT a valid immigrant visa!!!! So all your NONSENSE about traveling with a green card and/or visa lottery rubbish is ARRANT GIBBERISH!!!

but moving on we are talking mostly about BF/GF relationships as stated in the OP

Then, as i started earlier, let BOTH partner in this r/ship agree to this nonsense of having one partner leaving with NO aim, NO prospect, NO legal means to stay in that country, while talking about coming back for the other party, IF (and thats a big "if" they can get a residency/citizenship. Let us all remember that many do fail miserably at Security a legal mean to stay in the US (let alone to bring a partner) and just run back to 9ja with their tail between their legs while their deluded partner waited foolishly for nothing.

goodluck convincing a VO that you got married after the application. Like I said earlier, your lack of exposure is exposing your limitations, your heart might be in the right place but you just can't make generalized statements and expect everyone to marvel in your BS.....

Yet you are the one who wrote the below deluded statement.... About leaving with a green card gained via a visa lottery while this whole thread is about the opposite, BWAAAAAAAH!

abbey621:
As recent as 2009, many people still gained visa lottery and had to leave their partners, fast forward 3 to 5 years later, they are citizens and majority of them have brought their partners here to the U.S., the last statistics from the Dept. of State shows that more and more permanent resident greencardholders brought in their spouse after citizenship than past decades!

MrBrownJay1:


What kind of deluded person only takes PART of my whole post and then says i see things in black and white..... Maybe, Juste maybe, you should use your Brain and read the whole statement again.....here it is: Whether that woman has a valid green card (or not) is irrelevant/secondary here.... If you are in a r/ship with a woman that wants to move indefinitely to the other side of the world (talking about coming back FOR YOU instead of going there WITH YOU ) then thats the moment you guys should accept reality and part ways, as its obvious you guys have different life plans.

now if these guys have similar life plans to move to their eldorado (aka US) then they should sit down and decide how they will attain such feat, in an intelligent/plausible way. If your babe says she is leaving to the US with no plans whatsoever (but a tourist visa) then she needs a mind resetting dirty slap Asap.



What the hell are you talking about?! EVERYTHING WRITTEN ON THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE OP's INITIAL POST.... Now do you know what it is or do i have to spell it for you?! You foolishly came for my post who was a response to a the subject at hand, aka a woman wanting to move to the States WITHOUT a valid immigrant visa!!!! So all your NONSENSE about traveling with a green card and/or visa lottery rubbish is ARRANT GIBBERISH!!!



Then, as i started earlier, let BOTH partner in this r/ship agree to this nonsense of having one partner leaving with NO aim, NO prospect, NO legal means to stay in that country, while talking about coming back for the other party



Yet you are the one who wrote the below deluded statement.... About leaving with a green card gained via a visa lottery while this whole threatened is about the opposite, BWAAAAAAAH!

Like I've said earlier, it's pointless arguing with someone with a limited vision. My initial reply to you was to the bold part of your statement not your entire statement, if only you had the sense to analyze instead of blindly critiquing there would not be any need for this back and forth. Anyways, I said what I said, if you don't like it, feel free to argue with your internet!

abbey621:
Like I've said earlier, it's pointless arguing with someone with a limited vision. My initial reply to you was to the bold part of your statement not your entire statement, if only you had the sense to analyze instead of blindly critiquing there would not be any need for this back and forth. Anyways, I said what I said, if you don't like it, feel free to argue with your internet!

the reason why so many people fail in life (and especially in Nigeria) is because there are too many deluded people, with nothing to bring to a r/ship, who Lay all their success/achievement in life on the back of others. The minute anyone UNWILLINGLY put their life on hold, in the aim that some other person goes abroad and find some miracle ways to get a residency/citizenship, so that they can come back for them after years.... Then i am sorry to say that this person has rightfully failed at LIFE.....important word here is "unwillingly"

Useless Nigerians,Useless Nairaland.Now that you've caste your fellow Nigerians,what do you gain.Useless Creatures
Trump right now

Ladies that have boyfriend over to you

Valerie47:
Ladies that have boyfriend over to you

On the real, I'm not seeing a whole lot of female comments.
Surely they have something or experiences to add to this subject....they are typically the victims.

Lawyer777:
60% of Akatas are morally unacceptable by their own community. The ones from the core Ghetto have "zero life". You must run away from them when considering marriage for AOS. It's pathetic when you see them begging on the street in this same land flowing with milk and honey.

How do you know where to invest your time and resources? All you need is their names, address or SSN for a comprehensive background check to get credit history, driver's history, criminal records, education and more. From there, you don't need to be told your next move.

The US is not so hard. I have friends that takes home $200 plus daily driving Uber and delivering food for Grubhub and Doordash even without "Shola". I also have a Doctor friend who left Nigeria four years ago, I can't even calculate his annual salary to avoid unnecessary heartaches.

Life in the US is all about planning and connecting the right people. The people that you interact with every day, whether it's at home, work or on the streets, and their beliefs and opinions influences your beliefs and opinions. There are too many basic IT and Engineering jobs paying 25/hr and still begging for applicants. No one left Nigeria to eat burgers here.

Someone in Nigeria will still tell people in the US that they can't work and be successful without "papers" in the US. It's laughable because the person without the "paper" is actually making dollars as we deliberate here.

Leave people queueing at the embassy/consulate to make their own decision. I took my own decision after holidaying in the US for the fourth time in two years and no regret so far. People make dollars here daily except they choose not to work and it's the reality.

Abeg, make I go hustle small. I get bills to pay for here and Naija.

let's chat on WhatsApp biko. 2348137137224

planetx:
Social security number

Why is it called Shola?

InyinyaAgbaOku:


Why is it called Shola?

Why do we call papers "kpali"?

lionlee216:


Sad but true.. I know few in the past that actually make more money than me. They can lie about dependents on their tax form etc..

I was shocked when someone told me you can drive uber/lyft without shola. I didnt believe until i saw one. Even delivering with doordash, grubhub.

Connection is the koko. Some even get papers under a year..

bros which one b shola again

EVILFOREST:
GREEN CARD hard oooo
The FASTEST route is MARRIAGE.
But the marriage must be to a reasonable and understanding man or woman.
Avoid Black Americans oooo
They may dump you before your Green Card interview

and avoid to marry a Nigerian in need of Green Card, he/she will dump you after he/she gets it but first he/she will rip you off of all your money and leave you in troubles.

OluDare01:

I would never cheat anyone to get what I want. Cheating is not something I encourage. Like I said, it is different strokes for different folks. We all know what people do to get GC. If you don't follow the multitude, they thing you're dumb or not 'street smart'.

Modified: I see you're in the States. Which State are you?

Texas

myk2mic=74043039:

This is the truth and nothing but the truth,am currently here , and with wat I have seen and my ears have heard ,man it's simply not worth it.

Like the op said ,u have to marry a citizen to get a green card and hope that the person you married understands that it's simply a business arrangement, but if the person develops feelings for you, men you are screwed. But as always there is a way,

Some states in the USA have faster processing time for work permit/green card than others and there is a big market here for arranged marriage,even churches/pastors are involved, meet the right pple and the will point you in the right..

The ones I pity the most are married folks here with family, I have a friend here who moved with her entire family, she is currently pregnant and her husband has married a citizen and rented another ...

If an American marries you understanding it's simply a business arrangement, this American will face jail and $250,000 fine, as well as losing all his/her assets, house, car, job, pension and getting out of jail, he/she never finds a job, because it's a big crime to cheat on American government. That's why this business arrangement maybe accepted by a low level trash people, drug addicts who don't care and want your money for marriage, yet they will ask you for more money and more and cheat you in getting a Green Card.

And about a foreigner, Nigerian in this case, marrying as the way to get the Green Card, not for real, he is sent to jail too, $250,000 fined too and deported banned for life from ever come back to US. It's is the LAW. And in America the Law is observed well.

Angela777:

If an American marries you understanding it's simply a business arrangement, this American will face jail and $250,000 fine, as well as losing all his/her assets, house, car, job, pension and getting out of jail, he/she never finds a job, because it's a big crime to cheat on American government. That's why this business arrangement maybe accepted by a low level trash people, drug addicts who don't care and want your money for marriage, yet they will ask you for more money and more and cheat you in getting a Green Card.

And about a foreigner, Nigerian in this case, marrying as the way to get the Green Card, not for real, he is sent to jail too, $250,000 fined too and deported banned for life from ever come back to US. It's is the LAW. And in America the Law is observed well.

Yup.
And this is why I tell them... Close up old romantic tethers, travel light, and marry in the US FOR REAL if your goal is to migrate here and your girls friend or boyfriend can't come with you. You complicate your life much less this way.

2buffagain:


Yup.
And this is why I tell them... Close up old romantic tethers, travel light, and marry in the US FOR REAL if your goal is to migrate here and your girls friend or boyfriend can't come with you. You complicate your life much less this way.

Yes. You are right. Better to marry FOR REAL and to build the new life in US and release your girlfriend in Nigeria, so she also can build her life.

By the way, if you lie to US government, it is never forgiven. Even if it is discovered years after you forged your documents or married for papers, even if you are already a US citizen, if the lying is discovered, you get jail and deportation. Do you need to live your life in fear of that? I don't think so. Any man or woman with brain, will better do it right and secure his/her life and future with no fear to lose it.

Angela777:

Yes. You are right. Better to marry FOR REAL and to build the new life in US and release your girlfriend in Nigeria, so she also can build her life.

By the way, if you lie to US government, it is never forgiven. Even if it is discovered years after you forged your documents or married for papers, even if you are already a US citizen, if the lying is discovered, you get jail and deportation. Do you need to live your life in fear of that? I don't think so. Any man or woman with brain, will better do it right and secure his/her life and future with no fear to lose it.

The US government is the real mafia. They will Bleep you up bad mehn if you fall into their hand.

2buffagain:


The US government is the real mafia. They will Bleep you up bad mehn if you fall into their hand.

Lol, the biggest scams were invented by Americans.

Yes. You are right. Better to marry FOR REAL and to build the new life in US and release your girlfriend in Nigeria, so she also can build her life.

By the way, if you lie to US government, it is never forgiven. Even if it is discovered years after you forged your documents or married for papers, even if you are already a US citizen, if the lying is discovered, you get jail and deportation. Do you need to live your life in fear of that? I don't think so. Any man or woman with brain, will better do it right and secure his/her life and future with no fear to lose it.[/quote]

For the married couples, schooling or $500k to invest in the US economy is the surest way to obtaining GC?

santos41:

For the married couples, schooling or $500k to invest in the US economy is the surest way to obtaining GC?

better try L-1 visa.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2018/07/12/quickest-visas-for-investors-to-immigrate-to-the-u-s/#48437ac87e43

Well written

Angela777:

If an American marries you understanding it's simply a business arrangement, this American will face jail and $250,000 fine, as well as losing all his/her assets, house, car, job, pension and getting out of jail, he/she never finds a job, because it's a big crime to cheat on American government. That's why this business arrangement maybe accepted by a low level trash people, drug addicts who don't care and want your money for marriage, yet they will ask you for more money and more and cheat you in getting a Green Card.



And about a foreigner, Nigerian in this case, marrying as the way to get the Green Card, not for real, he is sent to jail too, $250,000 fined too and deported banned for life from ever come back to US. It's is the LAW. And in America the Law is observed well.

Everything thing is a risk, if you can convince them that ur marriage is real all good, I have lots of friends who went thru that route and today are citizens and have married someone else for real. Test the system but be careful. It is an open secret here in the country.

myk2mic:


Everything thing is a risk, if you can convince them that ur marriage is real all good, I have lots of friends who went thru that route and today are citizens and have married someone else for real. Test the system but be careful. It is an open secret here in the country.

That's why, we, Americans shouldn't marry any foreigner who needs his / her papers, so many cheaters and liars using us and wasting our best emotions and life for to get what they want, it's disgusting and hurting to know afterwards this person said he/she loved you, went to bed with you, made love to you, using your heart, body and soul, your support in everything. Cheating the person who loves you, the system and you say your friends are happy citizens. May God and Karma pay them back all damage they did to honest and kind people.

Hello viewers, I have been a silent reader on this thread tho I have similar problem about this relocation issue and I need some clarifications

I'm a young graduate from one of the federal universities and I am seriously making plans to go for my msc in Canada next year and possibly stay back there to start life with the intention of bringing my babe over after marriage.

We have been dating since 2014 up till date. Yes we've both gone a long way in this I love and want to settle with her for life. Infact I have promised her heaven and Earth and she is very keen on waiting for me no matter what.

How do I go about it? with what I'm reading up here, it seems marrying a citizen for papers is the easiest way to legally stay and start life there. I don't want to emabark on that kind of arrangement because I am not an advocate of cheating in a relationship.

I need your candid advic please

Thanks

Angela777:

That's why, we, Americans shouldn't marry any foreigner who needs his / her papers, so many cheaters and liars using us and wasting our best emotions and life for to get what they want, it's disgusting and hurting to know afterwards this person said he/she loved you, went to bed with you, made love to you, using your heart, body and soul, your support in everything. Cheating the person who loves you, the system and you say your friends are happy citizens. May God and Karma pay them back all damage they did to honest and kind people.

I agree it's wrong playing with people emotions like that. but this white old women are not helping matters at all.

LordSaints:
I agree it's wrong playing with people emotions like that. but this white old women are not helping matters at all.

They are helping, Last 2-3 years they get in the news, TV shows and YouTube and tell people how were they scammed and cheated and it helps other people to think better. Many men and women were in this situation and now many are talking and some even go to Africa to arrest their scammers. We have also huge government campaign against scam, marriage fraud and many scammers are caught in America, Africa and other countries and put to jail.

Also it's very interesting to read the real Nigerian people opinion here in NairaLand, real point of view about the young Nigerians marrying old white women. Thank you.

Angela777:

They are helping, Last 2-3 years they get in the news, TV shows and YouTube and tell people how were they scammed and cheated and it helps other people to think better. Many men and women were in this situation and now many are talking and some even go to Africa to arrest their scammers. We have also huge government campaign against scam, marriage fraud and many scammers are caught in America, Africa and other countries and put to jail.

Also it's very interesting to read the real Nigerian people opinion here in NairaLand, real point of view about the young Nigerians marrying old white women. Thank you.

Are you an old white lady?