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Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 5:50am On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum: The chance that you understand the root of the hierarchical values system and memes you act out/portray is almost zilch! This scientist says, "You think you're an atheist? You're a christian, judeo-christian... to the core. You just don't understand it, you just don't realize it." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enduikARwRw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjYQ48t4C8U |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 6:46am On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum: How did this come about then? budaatum: budaatum:Read most Hawking's books many many years ago. I probably have read more science books than you, and I'm not including talking textbooks. By the way, you said this, budaatum:That was why I said this, 9inches: |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 7:19am On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum:He accuses atheists of something from nothing. The argument is that something always come from something. What idea was debunked here where you cited yourself? budaatum:That did not get to the root of the matter which I presented again. 9inches: budaatum:Not my exact word, but yeah...kinda. Although, there's problem with your word "preeceding". My sister preceded me but I did not come out of my sister. Got it? "beget", "Come from" or other variants could properly fit. "Nothing preceding (comes from) Something" means, that Something is 1. timeless... right? 2. always there... right? 3. ever existing... right? 4. self existing... right!? 1 Like |
Re: Your Beliefs by Nobody: 7:41am On Jan 11, 2019 |
[quote author9inches post=74649995]He accuses atheists of something from nothing? What idea was debunked here where you cited yourself? That did not get to the root of the matter which I presented again.[/quote] So,you are still on this. |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 9:45am On Jan 11, 2019 |
HellVictorinho:Who else believed this as you? Any scientist or atheist you could mention? |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 9:57am On Jan 11, 2019 |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 10:13am On Jan 11, 2019 |
LordReed:His argument was that nothing isn't really nothing. Am I right? |
Re: Your Beliefs by LordReed(m): 10:49am On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches: Yes |
Re: Your Beliefs by Nobody: 11:12am On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:TIME limits. It can't be limited.. So the formation of time is an absurd concept. |
Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 1:13pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:Which we agreed on, and I note the correction. The dude is claiming atheist believe something comes from nothing. This is not an atheist view. 9inches:Yeah, got it. Try with mother. 9inches:And your creator of things comes from where? |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 1:13pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
LordReed:Do you agree with him? |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 1:14pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
HellVictorinho:According to who? |
Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 1:22pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:It is true that I, buda wrote what you just read. It is absolutely true in fact, since no one else could have written it. And there is nothing good or bad about it. It's just simply the truth. 9inches:That could also be true, though if it were true, I'd have to question your understanding of your reading! Why did you claim Hawking said "something from nothing" when he actually wrote "turtles all the way down"? 9inches:Your point being? |
Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 2:50pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:I believe we are still in agreement with this, as I pointed out with my citation from buda. Though one of us seems to have an exception where something is believed to come from a timeless existing uncreated creator which came from nothing! |
Re: Your Beliefs by LordReed(m): 3:12pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches: I don't have the expertise to agree or disagree but I accept the premise because it is based on observation. |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 3:47pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum:What's the atheist's view then? budaatum:That's why I "kinda" agreed but I'm sure you've seen the problem with the word in this context. And your creator of things comes from where?[/quote]He did not "come", he has always "been". The reality whose very nature is 'to be'. |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 4:00pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum:So you stand corrected? budaatum:Because I provided evidence showing he said that. budaatum:The point that you were talking about "an" absolute truth rather than [the] absolute truth. |
Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:00pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:That is this atheist's view, that everything must come from something. Hence the "something must have existed to create the gods themselves, and something must have existed to create whatever created whatever created the gods, and something must have existed to create whatever created whatever created whatever created the gods, and something must have existed........ad infinitum." However, all atheists have different views on the subject since we are not indoctrinated to hold the same views. But most who have considered it would, and will argue against the "something from nothing" view which is more the theists position. |
Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:02pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:Corrected at what? Was it not true that I wrote what your response above was to, just as much as it is absolutely true that you will be reading this, that I am about to post? 9inches:If you'd read his books, you'd know he didn't literally mean that. 9inches:Explain to me what "[the] absolute truth", is. |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 4:05pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:07pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:That was me. We clarified that! |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 4:07pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
LordReed:Your observation? |
Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:08pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:So, your creator of things came from nothing? |
Re: Your Beliefs by LordReed(m): 4:08pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches: No |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 4:14pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum: Does any other atheist share this your view of ad infinitum chain of existence? |
Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 4:15pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:There's sufficient sample for you to poll. Set up a thread and ask. |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 4:51pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum:Attributing an adjective (good) to absolute truth. budaatum:Perhaps you haven't read The Grand Design. Did he say anything different here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ88kC2Nx8M budaatum:"the" means truth is without variables. |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 4:54pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum:Okay |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 4:55pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum:No |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 4:57pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
LordReed:Oh. Whose observation? |
Re: Your Beliefs by 9inches(m): 4:58pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
budaatum:A simple name would do here. |
Re: Your Beliefs by budaatum: 5:04pm On Jan 11, 2019 |
9inches:Did your creator of things come from somewhere? |
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