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TATIME:
Abraham spoke to Jehovah. Genesis 18:3-5
Moses spoke to Jehovah FACE TO FACE. Deuteronomy 34:10, Exodus 33:11, Numbers 12:8
Yet Jehovah said "no man can see my face and keep living!" Exodus 34:20
Well if you agree that the Bible doesn't contradict itself,try to explain what is happening here.
But before you attempt solving the riddle, permit me to tell you what JWs thought me when i was studying the Bible with them{before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses} about the above riddle!
Jehovah has never left HIS heavenly throne for once.But each time HE sends an angel to speak and act in HIS place before humans! Exodus 23:20,21
So whatever this angel speaks would be like Jehovah is speaking from HIS heavenly throne while the angel is the one visible to humans "uttering Jehovah's word". John 1:1
Therefore wherever such angel goes it is God that's going there! That's why when Jacob struggled with Jehovah's angel, it was recorded "Jacob fought GOD and won!" Genesis 32:28
So Jehovah sent John the baptist{HIS prophet} ahead of Jesus {who is coming in Jehovah's name}! Matthew 21:9 Just as HE sent Moses who stood before his contemporaries as a representative of Jehovah,that's why those Israelites decided to make "another God" that will lead them when they can't find Moses! Exodus 32:1 compared to Exodus 7:1
Jesus came to REPRESENT Jehovah so whatever He does is exactly what Jehovah would have done if HE is here on earth! Israelites rejected Samuel{Jehovah's representative} and Jehovah told Samuel "It is i that they've rejected as KING" 1Samuel 8:7
So if anyone wants to convince one of Jehovah's Witnesses that Jehovah is Jesus,then such a person should be prepared to explain all of these. NOT just holding a text that shows the reader is yet to grasp the overall message and expecting a "fully competent and completely equipped" ordained minister of God {who has given so much time to meditating on the scriptures~Psalm 1:2}{2Timothy 3:16,17} to accept INCOMPLETE knowledge! Roman 10:1-3

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee brain dead stupidity is beyond redemption.
"Father and the Word ,(Jesus )is Jehovah" yet Jesus is JEHOVAH'S son.

Keep rehashing your stale outdated falsehood & twisting of the holy Bible...

**** FOR THE RECORDS.

El Gibbor "mighty God" is a title for Jesus at Isaiah 9:6, a title for Jehovah God in Deu7:21.

Johnw lying Pharisee economizes the truth .

"God stands in the congregation of the mighty;He judges among the gods"
"I said you are gods. You are all sons of the Most High"
Psalms 82:1,6

Mighty God (in Hebrew & Greek, god, God meaning the same thing) is also a title for men.

Yahweh judges among mighty gods.

Johnw lying Pharisee & him wayo na 5& 6 , your false claims amounts to fiction.

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee & crooked twister of the word of God.
The scriptures can not be broken"
The evidence from your Bible is proof that (Psalms 82:1,6 Isaiah9:6, Deu7:21,that's what the Hebrew manuscript says)
Mighty God is a title for men, for Jesus & for his God Father ,Jehovah,according to johnw lie lie, all of them be Almighty God because each of them bear "mighty God" title.

**** "He will be called Son of the Most High".... will be called Son of God" (Luke 1:32,35), Mr Liar is that a name?

johnw lying Pharisee stop economizing the truth.

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee & crooked twister of the word of God.
The scriptures can not be broken"
The evidence from your Bible is proof that (Psalms 82:1,6 Isaiah9:6, Deu7:21,that's what the Hebrew manuscript says)
Mighty God is a title for men, for Jesus & for his God Father ,Jehovah,according to johnw lie lie, all of them be Almighty God because each of them bear "mighty God" title.

**** "He will be called Son of the Most High".... will be called Son of God" (Luke 1:32,35), Mr Liar is that a name?

johnw lying Pharisee stop economizing the truth.

TATIME:
When they see JWs,most of them thought we are as dumb

TATIME: as them who always follow one cunning magician that's claiming Pastor!
Imagine posting cartoons that's WELCOMING JWs into it's home but they're not going to do that yet they're expecting right thinking persons to agree with cartoons, when they themselves are claiming Christians!

TATIME: Well that's why i kept hitting their head with the word "PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH" let's see who amongst them can stand face to face with a real JW for a spiritual combat. Isaiah 54:17

TATIME:
Jehovah's Witnesses will certainly come and knock your door,so wait patiently for them to PRACTICALLY apply what your cartoon says.
Try not to pursue them away in fury but calmly welcome them to educate them on who is Jehovah/Jesus. Perhaps you've learnt some manners as in reasonableness from your own cartoon unlike before when you often say you don't want to convert JWs. So now you can welcome JWs into you homes just like your cartoon did and politely,humbly and respectfully help them!

TATIME:
Abraham spoke to Jehovah. Genesis 18:3-5
Moses spoke to Jehovah FACE TO FACE. Deuteronomy 34:10, Exodus 33:11, Numbers 12:8
Yet Jehovah said "no man can see my face and keep living!" Exodus 34:20
Well if you agree that the Bible doesn't contradict itself,try to explain what is happening here.
But before you attempt solving the riddle, permit me to tell you what JWs thought me when i was studying the Bible with them{before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses} about the above riddle!
Jehovah has never left HIS heavenly throne for once.But each time HE sends an angel to speak and act in HIS place before humans! Exodus 23:20,21
So whatever this angel speaks would be like Jehovah is speaking from HIS heavenly throne while the angel is the one visible to humans "uttering Jehovah's word". John 1:1
Therefore wherever such angel goes it is God that's going there! That's why when Jacob struggled with Jehovah's angel, it was recorded "Jacob fought GOD and won!" Genesis 32:28
So Jehovah sent John the baptist{HIS prophet} ahead of Jesus {who is coming in Jehovah's name}! Matthew 21:9 Just as HE sent Moses who stood before his contemporaries as a representative of Jehovah,that's why those Israelites decided to make "another God" that will lead them when they can't find Moses! Exodus 32:1 compared to Exodus 7:1
Jesus came to REPRESENT Jehovah so whatever He does is exactly what Jehovah would have done if HE is here on earth! Israelites rejected Samuel{Jehovah's representative} and Jehovah told Samuel "It is i that they've rejected as KING" 1Samuel 8:7
So if anyone wants to convince one of Jehovah's Witnesses that Jehovah is Jesus,then such a person should be prepared to explain all of these. NOT just holding a text that shows the reader is yet to grasp the overall message and expecting a "fully competent and completely equipped" ordained minister of God {who has given so much time to meditating on the scriptures~Psalm 1:2}{2Timothy 3:16,17} to accept INCOMPLETE knowledge! Roman 10:1-3

johnw47:
false jw tatime, your usual self righteous garbage, of course
glad my saying "What A Friend Christians Have In Jesus" annoys you

it's something you don't have, a friend in the real Jesus.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

TATIME:
Your cartoon saw JWs FACE TO FACE,welcome them into his house and discuss with them. So can you also do the same? Because your incessant quoting of John 8:44 won't do all that but doing what your cartoon did!

TATIME:
But you've delayed this man from going to be with the Lord in heaven! However it's a beautiful write-up! 2Timothy 4:4

TATIME: let's see who amongst them can stand face to face with a real JW for a spiritual combat. Isaiah 54:17

johnw47:
NWT Isaiah 40:3 A voice of one calling out in the wilderness:
Clear up the way of Jehovah!
Make a straight highway through the desert for our God.







NWT Matthew 3:1 In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Ju·deʹa,
2 saying: “Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near."
3 This, in fact, is the one spoken of through Isaiah the prophet in these words: “A voice of one calling out in the wilderness: ‘Prepare the way of Jehovah! Make his roads straight.’




in the old testament the hebrew for "the LORD" is the tetragrammaton "YHWH"
in the new testament the greek for "the Lord"-Jehovah according to NWT is "kurios" as in matthew 3:3 above

Jesus is referred to as "the Lord-kurios" many times,
just one example:
Luk_2:11  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ "the Lord"-

Christ, "the Lord-kurios",
Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

johnw47:
NWT Isaiah 40:3 A voice of one calling out in the wilderness:
Clear up the way of Jehovah!
Make a straight highway through the desert for our God.







NWT Matthew 3:1 In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Ju·deʹa,
2 saying: “Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near."
3 This, in fact, is the one spoken of through Isaiah the prophet in these words: “A voice of one calling out in the wilderness: ‘Prepare the way of Jehovah! Make his roads straight.’




in the old testament the hebrew for "the LORD" is the tetragrammaton "YHWH"
in the new testament the greek for "the Lord"-Jehovah according to NWT is "kurios" as in matthew 3:3 above

Jesus is referred to as "the Lord-kurios" many times,
just one example:
Luk_2:11  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ "the Lord"-

Christ, "the Lord-kurios",
Joh 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

TATIME:
I hope you've not forgotten what you typed before i responded.
What you typed is a question,so i said "Jehovah's witnesses will come around just as we're known" and again the cartoons your folks are posting is saying JWs are learning from those they're going to meet at home!
So my response says "wait for them and use that opportunity to educate them"

Janosky:
You ,Johnw lying Pharisee & your fellow Pharisees are natural born LIARS & spiritual FRAUDSTERs.
**Matt3:3 "Prepare the way of Jehovah'"(NWT) .
** * Jehovah is the Father & God of Jesus (John 20:17,30,31), who is the Father & God of Jehovah?
If you can't show proof that Jehovah has a God & Father.

Janosky:
You ,Johnw lying Pharisee & your fellow Pharisees are natural born LIARS & spiritual FRAUDSTERs.
**Matt3:3 "Prepare the way of Jehovah'"(NWT) .

* The Greek kyrios (lord) is a title, not a name.
God's name (hebrew YHWH) was replaced with Lord in Greek manuscripts.
* Jehovah does not mean kyrios.
Very old fragments of Greek Septuagint version of the Hebrew & Greek scriptures with the Tetragramaton YHWH were discovered near Qumran in the Middle East, these manuscript fragments dates back to the first century during the time Jesus walked on earth.

** Jesus was begotten, who beget Jehovah? When? where ?

** * Jehovah is the Father & God of Jesus (John 20:17,30,31), who is the Father & God of Jehovah?
If you can't show proof that Jehovah has a God & Father.
Therefore, ALL your posts of Trinity scam is NULL & VOID.



*****The whole mission of Jesus coming to the earth, was to fulfill his Father,Jehovah's plan & purpose for redemption of man
(John 3:16,36)

** ****"The Father(Jehovah) who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say & what to speak..... So whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father (Jehovah) has told me."
John 12:49,50

*** "My food is to do the will of him that sent me" John 4:34

**Foolish crooked twister , johnw lying Pharisee, your triune God sent God himself to die for your iniquities.

johnw47:
i am the one showing with scripture that Mighty God and Almighty God are names for the one true God
you polytheist Janosky/OneJ on the other hand in your great confusion keep saying Jesus and Father are two mighty gods, jesus "a" mighty god and father "the" mighty god,


a, mary is not the mother of God
the Word Jesus created all that is created long before mary existed

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brocab:
I like the cartoons!! Sorry I have black listed JW's from my home, their words are full of poison-and there hearts are full of deceit, the JW's devour the innocent-you rob temples-you draw people away from the truth..

brocab:
I like the cartoons!! Sorry I have black listed JW's from my home, their words are full of poison-and there hearts are full of deceit, the JW's devour the innocent-you rob temples-you draw people away from the truth..

brocab:
How many times do we need to show you 'blind man, Jehovah is Jesus according to the NWT-KJ's version!
So if these both scriptures are right-then we still have God to be the Father of Jehovah Jesus!
{Isaiah 40:3} NWT Bible-Listen! Someone is calling out* in the wilderness:+ “Clear up the way* of Jehovah,+ YOU people! MAKE the highway for our God through* the desert plain straight.*:
{Isaiah 40:3} The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the Lord; Make straight in the desert
A highway for our God.

Janosky:
You ,Johnw lying Pharisee & your fellow Pharisees are natural born LIARS & spiritual FRAUDSTERs.

Janosky: * The Greek kyrios (lord) is a title, not a name.
God's name (hebrew YHWH) was replaced with Lord in Greek manuscripts.
* Jehovah does not mean kyrios.
Very old fragments of Greek Septuagint version of the Hebrew & Greek scriptures with the Tetragramaton YHWH were discovered near Qumran in the Middle East, these manuscript fragments dates back to the first century during the time Jesus walked on earth.

Janosky: ** Jesus was begotten, who beget Jehovah? When? where ?

Janosky: ** * Jehovah is the Father & God of Jesus (John 20:17,30,31), who is the Father & God of Jehovah?

Janosky: If you can't show proof that Jehovah has a God & Father.
Therefore, ALL your posts of Trinity scam is NULL & VOID.

Janosky: *****The whole mission of Jesus coming to the earth, was to fulfill his Father,Jehovah's plan & purpose for redemption of man
(John 3:16,36)

** ****"The Father(Jehovah) who sent me has himself given me a commandment about what to say & what to speak..... So whatever I speak, I speak just as the Father (Jehovah) has told me."
John 12:49,50

*** "My food is to do the will of him that sent me" John 4:34

**Foolish crooked twister , johnw lying Pharisee, your triune God sent God himself to die for your iniquities.

Janosky:
It's crystal clear that you are in fact brain dead & you reason from your anus.

Janosky: After you read in your own Bible that man is a "Mighty God ( Ps82:1,6) ; Jehovah is called Mighty God @ Deut7:21 & Jesus is too @Isa9:6, you keep recycling your stupidity here.
Guy eee done tayy u lost your sense

TATIME: So all your cartoons are just fabrication!
cartoons

Your cartoons aren't real.

TATIME: So keep living in cartoons while JWs are REAL in all your neighbourhood!

TATIME: Hmmmmmmmm Pharisees did the same,after trying all forms of criticism against Jesus they went and employ FALSE witnesses.

johnw47:
duh christians don't criticize Jesus, you secterian false jw's do though, you call him "a god"
you call Him "an angel"
Jesus said he will raise His temple-body, you say He didn't which is the same as calling the Lord and Saviour of the world a liar

but your lies are just more examples of you taking after your forefathers the pharisees

Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

^^^ Jesus describing lying pharisee false jw's and their pharisee fore fathers to a T

Janosky:
It's crystal clear that you are in fact brain dead & you reason from your anus.

After you read in your own Bible that man is a "Mighty God ( Ps82:1,6) ; Jehovah is called Mighty God @ Deut7:21 & Jesus is too @Isa9:6, you keep recycling your stupidity here.
Guy eee done tayy u lost your sense

johnw47:
truly Mighty God is a name-title for the one true God
there is not a mighty god jesus and the mighty god father,

johnw47:
i am the one showing with scripture that Mighty God and Almighty God are names for the one true God.

Janosky:
Foolish crooked twister, johnw lying Pharisee "mighty God is a name- title..."

" I appeared to Abraham to Isaac and to Jakob as God Almighty but by name Jehovah (YHWH) I did not make myself known to them"
Exodus 6:3

"That men may know that you whose name is JEHOVAH, you ALONE are the Most High "
Psalms 83:18.

"You ALONE are the Most High" means Only One God, not father and the word", but u johnw lying Pharisee keeps twisting John1:1 because your dead brain doesn't understand the Bible.

In John 1:1, The word is of the nature of God his Father, (of course every Son has his father's nature, attributes) but he is NOT the Father,Almighty God, Jehovah.
** We are partakers of the divine nature, just like Jesus but none of us is God ALMIGHTY Jehovah.
2Pet1:4.
Una Trinity scam peddlers, all of una sense dey una anus.

TATIME:
Whatever a group calls Jesus is not my problem as long as such group is able to meet the requirements of God's holy spirit! Galatians 5:22,23
Jesus Himself simply said "by their fruit" so Jesus did not say "by what they call me"!
Jesus said "what did the people call me" Matthew 16:13
Peter said "you are the SON of God" Matthew 16:16
Sorry Sir John 1:1 simply implies that Jesus served as God "the word WAS God" just as Moses also served as God. Exodus 7:1
You can call Jesus anything you like but if your organization is not able to unite her members like Jehovah's Witnesses, Paul said You're a worthless noise maker. 1Corinthians 13:1

TATIME:
Their problem is TRINITY that the Catholics fabricated and passed from one generation of dummies to another generation of morons!
What baffles me is now that they're trying to wake up to all the nonsense and ingredients of Catholics,they're still holding on to TRINITY. There is nothing that goes without a cost so the TRINITY doctrine has cost all of them their BRAINS,as they have replace their brains with anything just to keep the TRINITY scam!

Janosky:
Foolish crooked twister, johnw lying Pharisee has now changed to his new tune : "Mighty God is a name-title".
You are a FRAUD.

Janosky: "there is not a mighty god Jesus
and the mighty god father" .
Yeye crook,Johnw lying Pharisee, coman tear Isaiah 9:6 & Deu7:21 comot from your Bible.
No forget to tear off Psalms 82:1,6.
Spiritual fraudster dey form Christian.

Janosky:
Johnw lying Pharisee is very confused & without sense.

El Gibbor (Mighty God) referred specifically to Jesus, there's no definite article ("the" in Isaiah 9:6, proof that its not Jehovah. (if u see "the mighty God" at Isaiah 9:6, it is a fraud).

Can your brain understand it ,Johnw?
Johnw lying Pharisee is a Liar .