Maximus69:
Good Sir, i'll just say you can't convince any right thinking person to believe what you're saying unless they've been taught all along the same logic without asking questions!
Well that's the reason why JWs are better preachers and teachers,they have the boldness and confidence to approach anybody and knock on any door as they're fully loaded with convincing proofs that God created man from dust and at death man returns to dust. No more no less!
God bless you Sir!

Funny people do come around some nah.
Asalimpo abi wetin he call himself just think say na seresere. After all he was able to see hell and fire put together inside KJV so he doesn't want to listen in order to grasp the meaning. Now tough questions arises and he wants the one asking to forget and start following him to his Heaven is real Hell is real church "just like that" as Fela talk am
That's the kind of people you should be expecting when you go out in the field,they've grown up with the heaven and hell teaching and they love it even if they can't convince anyone about it,so just present your message and if they're not ready to reason Jesus said "walk away" there are many who will like to understand what false religions have turned into complications!

brocab:
But it's understandable-someone like yourself having no understanding-you without knowledge will never understand Christ..

You have no 'prima facie' anymore. Dubious liar


You just admitted you have been lying since.

We have proved that Hades is Hell from KJV , contrary to your claim.

We have proved that Hades is GRAVE from the KJV .

Mr Brocab, Knowing this , Are you now telling us Jesus went to Take the old saints from the GRAVE ? Resurrection ?

johnw47:


that's just another lie from lie lie barristter

and lie lie is calling brocab a liar, ha ha

Don't be silly o

Brocab said ' Hades is not hell ' after he found himself at a tight corner on the subject of born again .. But we found the KJV exposing him as a liar since KJV itself translated Hades as Hell.

Brocab fails to realize that the favorite Lazarus and rich man story, KJV rendered Hades as Hell again . Destroying Brocabs claim . if am to use his statement against him , it means KJV was wrong to render Hades as Hell at Luke 16.

Who do you agree with, KJV or Brocab ?

TATIME:
Funny people do come around some nah.
Asalimpo abi wetin he call himself just think say na seresere. After all he was able to see hell and fire put together inside KJV so he doesn't want to listen in order to grasp the meaning. Now tough questions arises and he wants the one asking to forget and start following him to his Heaven is real Hell is real church "just like that" as Fela talk am
That's the kind of people you should be expecting when you go out in the field,they've grown up with the heaven and hell teaching and they love it even if they can't convince anyone about it,so just present your message and if they're not ready to reason Jesus said "walk away" there are many who will like to understand what false religions have turned into complications!

Hmmm that's true! Just see how he jumped into the matter as if he's got something tangible to say but yet he couldn't give any reasonable points than just being heady about what all other religions are saying.
The more i read comments from different individuals the more i'm pushed towards the JWs as the only group having the wisdom to teach what they believe!
Perhaps it's the same people that's coming with different profile names,just as Olaadegbu suggested. Because i find it difficult to think that a normal person will just come in without carefully examining the previous comments and ready to say something worth considering!

asalimpo:

so the answers to this unscriptural questions is the KEY to understanding HEAVEN ND HELL ISSUE? Dude stop being proud.
God's word is the standard not our own fabricated standard.
Holy could mean anything you want it to mean- IT DOESNT AFFECT ANYTHING ABOUT HELL BEING a place of torment.
- whether adam pre-existed or not is irrelevant.
The bible talks of hel being a place of torment with fire (see story about lazarus nd the richman- it is not a parable!)

Dear Asalimpo , I noticed your adherence to hell fire teaching is Based on Rich man and Lazarus story. But if so, there are questions that need an answer.


1) The rich man has Human Body as EVIDENCED by Tongue, His ability to drink water , Lazarus also possess an human body with FINGERS

Does this not contradict the notion that Hell is for spirits ?

3) Was Lazarus Buried when he died OR directly carried by angels ?

If carried by Angels, why don't Angels carry dead bodies today ?

Let me stop there for now

asalimpo:
@maximus69
The bible says "the wicked shall be cast into hell and all the nations that forsake God".

The bible says "hell has enlarged itself to meet you"

the bible says "in hell the richman lifted up his eyes in fire ". Which grave has fire?
When u put all hell verses together you CANNOT HONESTLY conclude that hell is d common grave..

The Greek word rendered Hell in that verse is Hades, The SAME GREEK word that is translated GRAVE by the KJV and others ?

Can't you see the KJV itself says Hades is GRAVE
This ain't rocket science.

Side note: Rich man lifted up his EYES, does that not show Jesus is describing an Human BODY ?


Or you mean only Souls go to hell ? Am specially interested in your answer to these last part.

Barristter07:


The Greek word rendered Hell in that verse is Hades, The SAME GREEK word that is translated GRAVE by the KJV and others ?

Can't you see the KJV itself says Hades is GRAVE
This ain't rocket science.

Side note: Rich man lifted up his EYES, does that not show Jesus is describing an Human BODY ?


Or you mean only Souls go to hell ? Am specially interested in your answer to these last part.

How come the rich man was able to feel agony in fire in the grave since in the grave one is unconscious and dead?

Barristter07:


Dear Asalimpo , I noticed your adherence to hell fire teaching is Based on Rich man and Lazarus story. But if so, there are questions that need an answer.


1) The rich man has Human Body as EVIDENCED by Tongue, His ability to drink water , Lazarus also possess an human body with FINGERS

Does this not contradict the notion that Hell is for spirits ?

3) Was Lazarus Buried when he died OR directly carried by angels ?

If carried by Angels, why don't Angels carry dead bodies today ?

Let me stop there for now

God has a human body too and he is spirit o. Angels have human body too and they are spirits too.

Barristter07:


The Greek word rendered Hell in that verse is Hades, The SAME GREEK word that is translated GRAVE by the KJV and others ?

Can't you see the KJV itself says Hades is GRAVE
This ain't rocket science.

Side note: Rich man lifted up his EYES, does that not show Jesus is describing an Human BODY ?


Or you mean only Souls go to hell ? Am specially interested in your answer to these last part.

i wont give u a free education here since u are a know-it all but you research the composition of the human being. Your question is kindergaten grade level. If u are sincere and not sarcastic, show sriptural proofs of ur stand. God is not the author of confusion.

asalimpo:

i wont give u a free education here since u are a know-it all but you research the composition of the human being. Your question is kindergaten grade level. If u are sincere and not sarcastic, show sriptural proofs of ur stand. God is not the author of confusion.

Now can you see you're supposed to calm down and learn? Instead of jumping up to accuse JWs as false,why not listen attentively to gain wisdom? You said God is not for confusion yet you can't explain what is in his message thoroughly as one of his children,is that not a slap on the holy spirit you claim to have!
I am not a JW formerly but i learnt from listening to both side to gain wisdom! Now all those questions i even i a Bible student of JWs can easily solve it all for you. Though you may be heady and arrogantly arguing blindly because you feel you shouldn't succumb to JWs but all that is leading you nowhere Sir!
All these questions are easy to answer even in your KJV,the only problem you're having now is the KJV itself because a competent JW is asking you questions from your KJV and you're lost, you can't even move again. Therefore you're concluding the JWs 'knows it all' what a pity!

Maximus69:
Now can you see you're supposed to calm down and learn? Instead of jumping up to accuse JWs as false,why not listen attentively to gain wisdom? You said God is not for confusion yet you can't explain what is in his message thoroughly as one of his children,is that not a slap on the holy spirit you claim to have!
I am not a JW formerly but i learnt from listening to both side to gain wisdom! Now all those questions i even i a Bible student of JWs can easily solve it all for you. Though you may be heady and arrogantly arguing blindly because you feel you shouldn't succumb to JWs but all that is leading you nowhere Sir!
All these questions are easy to answer even in your KJV,the only problem you're having now is the KJV itself because a competent JW is asking you questions from your KJV and you're lost, you can't even move again. Therefore you're concluding the JWs 'knows it all' what a pity!

if you hav point to make. Make it. Stop all this long pointless tactics. The christians defend their stand by copious verses of scriptures. You do likewise. The christians show u ppl the absurdity nd ridiculousness of many of ur beliefs. Many of which defy logic and fail to hold up scripturally. If u want to counter,counter in a similar many. Or u buzz off. Senseless evasion shouldnt b employed. You just simply admit that YOU LOVE THE JW RELIGION ND EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN B FAULTED USING THE SCRIPTURES,YOU'D MUCH RATHER STICK WITH JW. If you do this, argumnts would cease nd we'll all go home.

Maximus69:
Now can you see you're supposed to calm down and learn? Instead of jumping up to accuse JWs as false,why not listen attentively to gain wisdom? You said God is not for confusion yet you can't explain what is in his message thoroughly as one of his children,is that not a slap on the holy spirit you claim to have!
I am not a JW formerly but i learnt from listening to both side to gain wisdom! Now all those questions i even i a Bible student of JWs can easily solve it all for you. Though you may be heady and arrogantly arguing blindly because you feel you shouldn't succumb to JWs but all that is leading you nowhere Sir!
All these questions are easy to answer even in your KJV,the only problem you're having now is the KJV itself because a competent JW is asking you questions from your KJV and you're lost, you can't even move again. Therefore you're concluding the JWs 'knows it all' what a pity!

Confession time! JWs KNOWS IT ALL after proving the skill of a REAL soldier of Christ who knows how to handle the sword[Hebrew 4:12] God's word the right way! 2Timothy 2:15
They don't know what they're doing because if they do,they'll just obey their so called Pastors who told them not to listen or discuss Biblical matters with JWs!

asalimpo:

if you hav point to make. Make it. Stop all this long pointless tactics. The christians defend their stand by copious verses of scriptures. You do likewise. The christians show u ppl the absurdity nd ridiculousness of many of ur beliefs. Many of which defy logic and fail to hold up scripturally. If u want to counter,counter in a similar many. Or u buzz off. Senseless evasion shouldnt b employed. You just simply admit that YOU LOVE THE JW RELIGION ND EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN B FAULTED USING THE SCRIPTURES,YOU'D MUCH RATHER STICK WITH JW. If you do this, argumnts would cease nd we'll all go home.

If it's about those questions,i won't tell you the answers!
You too go and humble yourself the way i did to learn from God's people after they've silenced my arrogance or keep to what you think you know! At least several questions have been forwarded to you and you can't do a single thing other than saying the JWs 'knows it all'.
Sorry we don't teach people on social media Sir,you must humble yourself to learn! Zephaniah 2:2,3
So next time JWs come knocking on your door,don't allow them say a word just copy all those question and table everything before them. I'm sure you'll be glad you did!
The Bible said 'no weapon fashioned against (God's servants) shall prosper and every tongue that rises against you shall be silenced, this is the heritage of God's servants and their righteousness is from me' says Jehovah! Isaiah 54:17
Ever since i read that portion of the Bible,i sarcastically, critically and arrogantly question anybody that comes to preach to me,but the JWs YES! Jehovah's Witnesses prevailed over all my prideful questions! So i believe Isaiah's prophecy is talking about them!

TATIME:
Confession time! JWs KNOWS IT ALL after proving the skill of a REAL soldier of Christ who knows how to handle the sword[Hebrew 4:12] God's word the right way! 2Timothy 2:15
They don't know what they're doing because if they do,they'll just obey their so called Pastors who told them not to listen or discuss Biblical matters with JWs!

Just imagine,he's trying to say 'answer those questions for me' but in an arrogant manner,instead of humbly begging for wisdom. Leave him, he is not yet ready to learn!

Maximus69:
If it's about those questions,i won't tell you the answers!
You too go and humble yourself the way i did to learn from God's people after they've silenced my arrogance or keep to what you think you know! At least several questions have been forwarded to you and you can't do a single thing other than saying the JWs 'knows it all'.
Sorry we don't teach people on social media Sir,you must humble yourself to learn! Zephaniah 2:2,3
So next time JWs come knocking on your door,don't allow them say a word just copy all those question and table everything before them. I'm sure you'll be glad you did!
The Bible said 'no weapon fashioned against (God's servants) shall prosper and every tongue that rises against you shall be silenced, this is the heritage of God's servants and their righteousness is from me' says Jehovah! Isaiah 54:17
Ever since i read that portion of the Bible,i sarcastically, critically and arrogantly question anybody that comes to preach to me,but the JWs YES! Jehovah's Witnesses prevailed over all my prideful questions! So i believe Isaiah's prophecy is talking about them!

i see. You were asking questions in sarcasm then when the same tactics were turned on you,you backed off. This is the only strategies you ppl have. Not indepth knowldge of scriptures just slippery evasiveness and twisted mindedness. Even in the glaring light of obvious scriptures , you'd still b arguing, either you'd say the scriptures DOESNT REALLY MEAN WHAT IT SAYS (e.g man doesnt mean man! Are u kidding me ) or u seek EXTRA-BIBLICAL SOURCES or you make it attacks on persons. Dude, hell is free,heaven is free. If u love religion,just say so,dont argue futily nd pointlessly

@Maximus69
the truth cannot set u or any1 free. Knowledge of the truth doesnt change ppl.
Proving your theology wrong with scriptures WONT CHANGE you.

Proof:
cigerrate smoke most likely leads to cancer. This truth is even imprinted on cigarrete packets. Does it stop ppl smoking? No? It might have a temporal effct but those who want to smoke will still do it.

Unprotected sx can leads to AIDS and AIDS has no cure. Has this truth made people careful? Inspite of this knowledge in full glare of this truth ppl are still contrcting hiv from ,u guess it,unprotctd sx.

The bible says,Jesus,the Light of the world ,came into the world but men loved darkness more than truth! If men loved darkness more than truth then,then today it will b d same.
Those who are genuinely sincere , will act on the truth and b set free. Others will mock nd scoff. The choice is yours to make.

Hairyrapunzel:


How come the rich man was able to feel agony in fire in the grave since in the grave one is unconscious and dead?

he was buried near nnpc pipeline, which just happened to erupt roasting him alive! But wait,he was dead? So what was talking nd coversing with abraham?

Barristter07:

Don't be silly o

Brocab said ' Hades is not hell ' after he found himself at a tight corner on the subject of born again .. But we found the KJV exposing him as a liar since KJV itself translated Hades as Hell.

Brocab fails to realize that the favorite Lazarus and rich man story, KJV rendered Hades as Hell again . Destroying Brocabs claim . if am to use his statement against him , it means KJV was wrong to render Hades as Hell at Luke 16.

Who do you agree with, KJV or Brocab ?

lie lie barrister
i agree with olaadegbu that he is not a troll in his own thread,
i was talking about a liar-you, calling someone else a liar, you are a pharisee hypocrite and a liar, lie lie barrister:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Barristter07:


The Greek word rendered Hell in that verse is Hades, The SAME GREEK word that is translated GRAVE by the KJV and others ?

Can't you see the KJV itself says Hades is GRAVE
This ain't rocket science.

Side note: Rich man lifted up his EYES, does that not show Jesus is describing an Human BODY ?


Or you mean only Souls go to hell ? Am specially interested in your answer to these last part.

the Word used for God in genesis is Elohim not YHVH BUT in your perverted scriptures it's all replaced with JEHOVAH,which isnt even God's name! So, while claiming to adhering strongly to scriptures you do twist them.
The greek word for hell is irrelevant to understanding the truth about hell in d bible.
In context,any honest person can see that HELL CAN NEVER B THE GRAVE. The Hell Jesus spoke off can never b d grave. Is there fire in the grave? Do the worms not die in d grave? In cemetaries do the dead wail? Do they gnash their teeth?
Can hell b called fire in same breath? Jesus did!
Dude, logic alone debunks the false doctrines and positions you ppl believe in. It's absurd why u ppl still stick to ur clearly ridiculous beliefs. Mayb it's reassuring to think so. Well,it's your cuppatea

Barristter07:


Dear Asalimpo , I noticed your adherence to hell fire teaching is Based on Rich man and Lazarus story. But if so, there are questions that need an answer.


1) The rich man has Human Body as EVIDENCED by Tongue, His ability to drink water , Lazarus also possess an human body with FINGERS

Does this not contradict the notion that Hell is for spirits ?

3) Was Lazarus Buried when he died OR directly carried by angels ?

If carried by Angels, why don't Angels carry dead bodies today ?

Let me stop there for now

your assumption is man die man go. Physcal death is the end. So how do you interprete the richman and lazarus? They both died,yet were both alive somewhere?
This issue isnt a problem to christians but it collapses ur model of man ceasing at death?
You can do one of two things: change ur model nd admit that u r wrong or change the word to say it is wrong,it didnt really say what u think it is saying. Again the choice is yours

TATIME:
Confession time! JWs KNOWS IT ALL after proving the skill of a REAL soldier of Christ who knows how to handle the sword[Hebrew 4:12] God's word the right way! 2Timothy 2:15
They don't know what they're doing because if they do,they'll just obey their so called Pastors who told them not to listen or discuss Biblical matters with JWs!

TATIME: They don't KNOW what they're doing BECAUSE if they do,THEY'LL just OBEY their so called PASTORS who told them NOT to LISTEN or discuss BIBLICAL MATTERS with JWS!

Maximus69: When I came in, I threw the GB's order to everyone and immediately I can see JWs complying with the orders so I concluded they're like soldiers who recognises their central controlling unit.

What was the order?

According to Maximus69.....So it's no more a hidden fact that JWs are DEVOTED BELIEVERS and EVER READY to take CORRECTIONS even FROM a NONE JW who simply got the INFORMATION INDISPOSED to the PUBLIC! The GB ORDERS them not to involve in on GOING social MEDIA DEBATE or ARGUMENT,and IMMEDIATELY at the mention of GOVERNING BODY
OneJ,Peacefulove,Tatime,Captivator and others became silent! KUDOS to all of YOU for showing me why it is REASONABLE and NECESSARY to belong to a UNIQUE GROUP where LAWLESSNESS is no MORE,unlike in the world out there where WORSHIPERS can just take a bold stand AGAINST the rules of the RELIGION to which they BELONG!


Order got support from the below..........


10 Today, Jehovah’s people are not often confronted with apostasy within the congregation. Still, when exposed to unscriptural teachings, regardless of the source, we must decisively reject them. It would be unwise to engage in debates with apostates, whether in person, by responding to their blogs, or by any other form of communication. Even when the intention is to help the individual, such conversation would be contrary to the Scriptural direction we just considered. Rather, as Jehovah’s people, we completely avoid, yes reject, apostasy. w14 7/15 pp. 12-16 paragraphs 10



So why must Maximus69 and TATIME follow ORDERS from GB.....

“We need to guard against developing a spirit of INDEPENDENCE. By WORD or ACTION, may we NEVER CHALLENGE the CHANNEL of COMMUNICATION that JEHOVAH is USING TODAY. “ (w09 11/15 p. 14 par. 5 Treasure Your Place in the Congregation)


"That FAITHFUL SLAVE(GB) is the CHANNEL through which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the FAITHFUL SLAVE. Our spiritual health and our RELATIONSHIP with GOD DEPEND on this CHANNEL." Watchtower 2013 Jul 15 p.20


So have Maximus69 and TATIME complied with the ORDER GIVEN?

Yet the same FAITHFUL SLAVE taught the below.....


“We cannot take part in any modern version of IDOLATRY — be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of SALVATION to a PERSON or an ORGANIZATION. (1 Corinthians 10:14; 1 John 5:21)” – The Watchtower, November 1, 1990 p. 26)

“But Jehovah’s servants already belong to the ONLY ORGANIZATION that will SURVIVE the end of this wicked SYSTEM of THINGS.” Watchtower 2007 Dec 15 p.14


So what basis is there to challenge the words of GOVERNING BODY or the JWS....


The GOVERNING Body is NEITHER INSPIRED nor INFALLIBLE. Therefore, it can ERR in DOCTRINAL MATTERS or in ORGANIZATIONAL DIRECTION. IN FACT, the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “BELIEFS CLARIFIED,” which LISTS ADJUSTMENTS in our SCRIPTURAL UNDERSTANDING since 1870. Of COURSE, Jesus did not tell us that his FAITHFUL SLAVE would PRODUCE perfect SPIRITUAL FOOD.
February 2017 Watchtower study edition fourth study article paragraph 12


Since the GOVERNING BODY admitted that they are NOT INSPIRED, how else can you make use of this scripture contained in 1 John 4:1 to address any of the teachings of the GB and their DOCTRINES..........

Beloved ones, do not BELIEVE every INSPIRED STATEMENT, but TEST the INSPIRED STATEMENTS to see whether THEY ORIGINATE with GOD, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

We are told to TEST INSPIRED STATEMENT, so what is expected of STATEMENTS NOT INSPIRED? E get as e be ooooo.

Maximus69:
Of course Mr John,after reading through your FINE responses to every post everyone can testify that you are a REAL born again Christian Sir!

lying pharisee false jw mad max

you mean every false jw can testify-lie

Maximus69:
1Peter 3:15

1Pe 3:15  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

the Lord God doesn't expect me to give answers to mocking old women gossips-satans mob

Psa 37:12 The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
Psa 37:13 The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.

truly i and the LORD laugh at you

Maximus69:
God bless you!

a person being sarcastic and then giving a blessing
is a hypocrite, like your fore fathers the pharisees

asalimpo:

he was buried near nnpc pipeline, which just happened to erupt roasting him alive! But wait,he was dead? So what was talking nd coversing with abraham?

They will tell you it isn't literal talking that Jesus Christ meant to say the parable was figurative. Just watch out.

TATIME:
John 8:44 as usual, it's like your head is stick to John 8:44 when your heart is far away from the real understanding of it.
Perhaps because you were given the name John by your parents.
Abeg uncle your mind dey far far far away from wetin John write for that place!

cannot stop lying false jw Tatime

you false jw's don't know God's word
and you twist and change much of it

Jesus was talking of unbelieving jews
of course the verse applies also to false jw's
you are of your father the devil, the father of lies, it's very obvious
except to you, the blinded:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.




Jesus said off the unbelieving jews, and of course the bolded and the underlined also applies to false jw's and their father god the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

in fact Tatime the bolded and underlined applies to you false jw's and your god exactly

asalimpo:

your assumption is man die man go. Physcal death is the end. So how do you interprete the richman and lazarus? They both died,yet were both alive somewhere?
This issue isnt a problem to christians but it collapses ur model of man ceasing at death?
You can do one of two things: change ur model nd admit that u r wrong or change the word to say it is wrong,it didnt really say what u think it is saying. Again the choice is yours

Your premise contradict the story Sir.

@ Bold , in what form ? Spirit Or human BODY ?

Maximus69:
Good Sir, i'll just say you can't convince any right thinking person to believe what you're saying unless they've been taught all along the same logic without asking questions!
Well that's the reason why JWs are better preachers and teachers,they have the boldness and confidence to approach anybody and knock on any door as they're fully loaded with convincing proofs that God created man from dust and at death man returns to dust. No more no less!
God bless you Sir!

bros,the key to scripture interpretation is outline in the scriptures. In the mouth of 2 or 3 wtnesses let every matter b established. Further more it says the christian shoulr RIGHTLY DIVIDE the word of truth, meaning it can be wrongly divided. At death the richmn was in hell (common grave?) think again. That was a story given by Jesus yet solomon said that at death man die man go. So which is which? God said Adam is dust nd to dust he will return but Jesus talks about hell, paul talks about heaven and so on? Which is correct? Does man become nothing as Solomon said or does man be with the Lord as Paul said? How dyu divide this? You ppl hav a lot of unlearning to do. But it begins with receiving Jesus as saviour and redeemer- not ransomer-receiving a new spirit then growing from there but your pride will blind most of you so that faced with d truth you'll embrace lies.

asalimpo:

i wont give u a free education here since u are a know-it all but you research the composition of the human being. Your question is kindergaten grade level. If u are sincere and not sarcastic, show sriptural proofs of ur stand. God is not the author of confusion.

Kindergarten grade level yet you couldn't give a response. Let me answer you with proofs

According to Jesus, here is what goes to Hell.- KJV

" thy WHOLE BODY should be cast into hell. " - Matthew 5:29 KJV

" fear him which is able to destroy both soul and BODY in hell. " KJV

Going by the above:


Do you agree that the Human body go to hell ?

Your answer to this will define the next question. I hope you won't make Jesus a liar here

Barristter07:

Your premise contradict the story Sir.
@ Bold , in what form ? Spirit Or human BODY ?

what is the wrong premise? Explain

asalimpo:

what is the wrong premise?
Explain

That souls go to hell, but we find the rich man BODILY together with Lazarus.

If you disagree, tell us in what form they are alive ?

asalimpo:

the Word used for God in genesis is Elohim not YHVH BUT in your perverted scriptures it's all replaced with JEHOVAH,which isnt even God's name! So, while claiming to adhering strongly to scriptures you do twist them.
The greek word for hell is irrelevant to understanding the truth about hell in d bible.
In context,any honest person can see that HELL CAN NEVER B THE GRAVE. The Hell Jesus spoke off can never b d grave. Is there fire in the grave? Do the worms not die in d grave? In cemetaries do the dead wail? Do they gnash their teeth?
Can hell b called fire in same breath? Jesus did!
Dude, logic alone debunks the false doctrines and positions you ppl believe in. It's absurd why u ppl still stick to ur clearly ridiculous beliefs. Mayb it's reassuring to think so. Well,it's your cuppatea

Even KJV translate the same Greek word as GRAVE. I can see already that you have very little knowledge of the subject you dived into.

Well , I await your responses to the former questions.

asalimpo:

the Word used for God in genesis is Elohim not YHVH BUT in your perverted scriptures it's all replaced with JEHOVAH,which isnt even God's name! So, while claiming to adhering strongly to scriptures you do twist them.
The greek word for hell is irrelevant to understanding the truth about hell in d bible.
In context,any honest person can see that HELL CAN NEVER B THE GRAVE. The Hell Jesus spoke off can never b d grave. Is there fire in the grave? Do the worms not die in d grave? In cemetaries do the dead wail? Do they gnash their teeth?
Can hell b called fire in same breath? Jesus did!
Dude, logic alone debunks the false doctrines and positions you ppl believe in. It's absurd why u ppl still stick to ur clearly ridiculous beliefs. Mayb it's reassuring to think so. Well,it's your cuppatea

Even KJV translate the same Greek word as GRAVE. I can see already that you have very little knowledge of the subject you dived into.

Well , I await your responses to the former questions.

asalimpo:

any1 still wanting to argue after all these is simply dishonest and prideful. Choosing rather to be married to false teaching rather than forsake them and change his ways in the light of truth.

yeah a good post from olaadegbu
https://www.nairaland.com/post/57809198