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Maximus69:
Hmmm.
You know this was very difficult for me to chew when you first said 'Jesus used Russel and the group' but with this explanation, you've made my day Sir!
Tatime, thank you!
Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you!

Are you saying this Maximus?
NO oooooo, you that has posted so many faith strengthening and upbuilding comments!
You're also like that iron the scripture mentioned at Proverbs 27:17.

TATIME:
*ONLY Peter and the group got the real sense of who Jesus truly is. John 6:66-69
*ONLY Peter and the group complied fully to all that He commanded. John 17:8,9
*ONLY Peter and the group were with Him during His last hour. Matthew 26:35
*ONLY Peter and the group suffered intensely in the hands of Jewish religious leaders for His name sake. Act 12:5
Peter was just a misinformed Jew like any other contemporary of Jesus {Matthew 17:10} but because he was humble and ready to take correction Jesus said to the group and particularly to Peter "whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven" Matthew 16:18
My friend, Jesus worked with Peter despite his weaknesses { Matthew 14:30-31, 26:69-75, John 21:15-17}
There were so many Jews back then having wrong expectations of the Messiah and several Jewish zealots claiming Messiah back then in the first century! Act 5:35-37 Therefore it's not surprising that many found it so difficult to accept Jesus as the promised Messiah talkless joining the Christians back then.
So if you're in doubt today whether Jesus truly used Russel and the movement, well i'll just waka pass your side and think about how this same Jesus used those simple Jewish men in the first century!

Just like there are so many pastors and church leaders today that has wrong view about Christ, his manner of return, immortality of the soul etc.

Jesus still uses them despite their weaknesses. If it's hard for you to accept them based on those wrong ideas, Na your problem?

TATIME:
Are you saying this Maximus?
NO oooooo, you that has posted so many faith strengthening and upbuilding comments!
You're also like that iron the scripture mentioned at Proverbs 27:17.

Seems like one or both are confused and are just looking for anything to assure them that their assumed beliefs are OK. As long as they have that reassurances.

TATIME:
Jesus used Russel to rearrange Christianity which has been adulterated during the dark ages! Matthew 13:24-30
Russel's generation witnessed Jesus' return when He came to see how Christianity is flourishing on earth, when Jesus saw that what He instituted has been turned upside down[Luke 18:8] He started gathering sincere and honest hearted individuals to ORGANISE His congregation as it was in the first century. Russel and the others in that group were dealing with an invisible perfect being who patiently endured their misconceptions until everything is well arranged again now!

How did Russell rearrange Christianity? What did he do to rearrange it?

rottennaija:
Seems like one or both are confused and are just looking for anything to assure them that their assumed beliefs are OK. As long as they have that reassurances.

Your Papa and Mama are with us in this reassurance matter!
They are Jehovah's Witnesses before we became JWs, so we met them in the CONFUSION and we are pleased in been CONFUSED along with them!

rottennaija:
How did Russell rearrange Christianity? What did he do to rearrange it?

Entertainment of Questions are meant ONLY for those who want to identify Jesus' group in this end~time!
But since you feel there shouldn't be such a thing, you can relax and maintain your level. Just be rest assured that the God of JWs differ from that of any other person outside the JWs organization!

TATIME:
Entertainment of Questions are meant ONLY for those who want to identify Jesus' group in this end~time!
But since you feel there shouldn't be such a thing, you can relax and maintain your level. Just be rest assured that the God of JWs differ from that of any other person outside the JWs organization!

He thought TRUE Christians are ready for all those persuasive false stories his pastors do employ to keep him clapping and dancing for them!

TATIME:
This is just funny Maximus!
Mr ROTTEN loves his confused parents so much but the useless,hopeless idiot can't tell his parents the truth. He thought being a Christian is that cheap and easy ,when Jesus Himself said "whoever have affection for Baba and Mama more than me is not worthy of me" Matthew 10:37 Jesus even said publicly in the presence of Mary {His mother} "who are my mother and brothers?" then directing peoples attention to those sharing the same mindset as Him "these are my people" Matthew 12:47-49
But ROTTEN's parents are in a confused religion yet he still have affection to the extent he wouldn't dare talk about it,but he is busy refuting the claims of those who taught his parents what those ones believe and held as faith!
Walahi talahi, wonders shall never end!
Abeg Mr ROTTEN, it is better you remain silent than insulting your parents in the public because they're part and passel of the Watchtower before they caused your birth and till now!
So it's hopeless coming to the public speaking against scavengers and air pollution whereas that's exactly your own parent's job! Therefore,whatever you spew out of that your naughty brains 90% of it goes back home to your Papa and Mama who are still members of the Watchtower!

I only pray to Jehovah for His parents to be able to cope with the loss!
This one is just a waste product,he want to feel important yet he is destroying his own background as in home.
Just imagine, your Papa and Mama are bonafide members of a group,you left them at home and started criticizing outsiders for belonging to the same group!
OK, instead of outright condemnation of your parents for upholding falsehood, you still want them to be respected and regarded in the society by everyone [including those who are doing exactly the same thing your parents are doing] while you are castigating those ones!
Please tell him to go and learn from the sons of Kora because the left their Papa and remained loyal to Moses and Jehovah's congregation!
Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you oooo!
If not because i listened to you people, how am i going to know that there are real insanes in the society,well dressed and claiming to be intellectuals tori Olorun?

TATIME:
Entertainment of Questions are meant ONLY for those who want to identify Jesus' group in this end~time!
But since you feel there shouldn't be such a thing, you can relax and maintain your level. Just be rest assured that the God of JWs differ from that of any other person outside the JWs organization!

You mean you cannot say how Russell rearrange Christianity? I mean, you should be able to say what he taught, his doctrine, etc.

And since he rearrange Christianity and was a truth seeker, why are you not learning any of his teachings anymore? At least, for the sake of his? He was the faithful and wise servant of the most high God, at least till his death in 1915. But of course, Watchtower doesn't recognize him to be

Why don't you read more about him below? https://www.scribd.com/document/301591889/The-Laodicean-Messenger-Memoirs-of-Pastor-Russell-1923

TATIME:
The PASSOVER is Judaism and Jesus always practise it before instituting the memorial of his death which will replace that event!
The passover is purely part of the old covenant God had with the nation of Israel which Jesus was also part of that nation until he died and opened the way for the new covenant to start operation at his resurrection.
Before the commencement of Judaism/old covenant, Moses offered a sacrificed to commence the covenant between God and natural Israelites, Jesus' sacrifice opened the way for Christianity to gain God's approval and nullified Judaism for good!
So i'll just answer one out of your questions to show you that you knew practically nothing about Jesus or Christianity!

In that case, Jesus practiced interfaith. The passover, his baptism, baptism of his disciples, asking people to have faith in him etc

That's definitely interfaith. Don't you think so?

@bolded, just don't fan yourself or boast for people to hear

rottennaija:
You mean you cannot say how Russell rearrange Christianity? I mean, you should be able to say what he taught, his doctrine, etc.

And since he rearrange Christianity and was a truth seeker, why are you not learning any of his teachings anymore? At least, for the sake of his? He was the faithful and wise servant of the most high God, at least till his death in 1915. But of course, Watchtower doesn't recognize him to be

Why don't you read more about him below? https://www.scribd.com/document/301591889/The-Laodicean-Messenger-Memoirs-of-Pastor-Russell-1923

Russel and the group began MAKING RESEARCH to ascertain how Christianity ought to be!
After attending various religious groups each of them discovered that the existing groups aren't ready to make any amendments at least to reform what the world of that time called Christianity which has caused a lot of misdeeds in the past and still causing more!
They formed a group called the 'Bible students' and they keep searching the scriptures to find out how things went wrong, they discovered that the only problem is PEOPLE AREN'T READY TO ACCEPT CORRECTION as long as their religion is established.
So their conclusion: THEY WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE NEEDED CHANGES UNTIL EVERYTHING WORKS OUT AS IT OUGHT TO BE!
That is why the organization NEVER view Russel and his group as the founders whose teachings can't be reviewed! They were researchers and during research you shouldn't expect stagnancy.
Jehovah's Witnesses really appreciate the effort of the twentieth century Bible students association, however they are not the founders of Christianity. THAT IS WHY WE CAN'T REMAIN IN THEIR TEACHING!
If Charles Taze Russel is alive today, he would be very happy that the organization is making progress and what's more? The group's name has been changed to 'Jehovah's Witnesses' and it has become a happy global family of like minded kingdom evangelizers!
So my friend, Russel is NOT Jesus Christ therefore it is only a buffoon that will be expecting intellectuals who later became members of the research team to remain stagnant like your folks practicing false religions usually does!

Maximus69:
Russel and the group began MAKING RESEARCH to ascertain how Christianity ought to be!
After attending various religious groups each of them discovered that the existing groups aren't ready to make any amendments at least to reform what the world of that time called Christianity which has caused a lot of misdeeds in the past and still causing more!
They formed a group called the 'Bible students' and they keep searching the scriptures to find out how things went wrong, they discovered that the only problem is PEOPLE AREN'T READY TO ACCEPT CORRECTION as long as their religion is established.
So their conclusion: THEY WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE NEEDED CHANGES UNTIL EVERYTHING WORKS OUT AS IT OUGHT TO BE!
That is why the organization NEVER view Russel and his group as the founders whose teachings can't be reviewed! They were researchers and during research you shouldn't expect stagnancy.
Jehovah's Witnesses really appreciate the effort of the twentieth century Bible students association, however they are not the founders of Christianity. THAT IS WHY WE CAN'T REMAIN IN THEIR TEACHING!
If Charles Taze Russel is alive today, he would be very happy that the organization is making progress and what's more? The group's name has been changed to 'Jehovah's Witnesses' and it has become a happy global family of like minded kingdom evangelizers!
So my friend, Russel is NOT Jesus Christ therefore it is only a buffoon that will be expecting intellectuals who later became members of the research team to remain stagnant like your folks practicing false religions usually does!

Sharp minds think alike!
Well~done Maximus, God bless you!

rottennaija:
In that case, Jesus practiced interfaith. The passover, his baptism, baptism of his disciples, asking people to have faith in him etc

That's definitely interfaith. Don't you think so?

@bolded, just don't fan yourself or boast for people to hear

Jesus was preparing His group for the work that they must continue doing[after Christianity is fully established] until He returns! Matthew 28:20
John objected to Jesus coming to be baptised by him because he knew that Jesus is the promised MEDIATOR of the NEW COVENANT! Matthew 3:13-15
Jesus can't Institute the new covenant until He finish the work of reconciling sinners to God on the torture stake! John 19:30
So it was after His resurrection and the arrival of the holy spirit that Christianity was established! Act 2:1-8
NOT when Jesus was preparing them for the work ahead. You can only run,but you can't hide. You're leaving the one and only group that can help you know what Christ and Christianity means!

Please pray for me ooooooooo!
I want to stay in this organization.
See confirmed timely scriptural enlightenment!
Yet Mr ROTTEN go say him Papa and Mama no sabi wetin them dey do!

TATIME:
Jesus was preparing His group for the work that they must continue doing[after Christianity is fully established] until He returns! Matthew 28:20
John objected to Jesus coming to be baptised by him because he knew that Jesus is the promised MEDIATOR of the NEW COVENANT! Matthew 3:13-15
Jesus can't Institute the new covenant until He finish the work of reconciling sinners to God on the torture stake! John 19:30
So it was after His resurrection and the arrival of the holy spirit that Christianity was established! Act 2:1-8
NOT when Jesus was preparing them for the work ahead. You can only run,but you can't hide. You're leaving the one and only group that can help you know what Christ and Christianity means!

Maximus69:
Russel and the group began MAKING RESEARCH to ascertain how Christianity ought to be!
After attending various religious groups each of them discovered that the existing groups aren't ready to make any amendments at least to reform what the world of that time called Christianity which has caused a lot of misdeeds in the past and still causing more!
They formed a group called the 'Bible students' and they keep searching the scriptures to find out how things went wrong, they discovered that the only problem is PEOPLE AREN'T READY TO ACCEPT CORRECTION as long as their religion is established.

The same is true, Jehovah's Witnesses today aren't ready to accept or make needed corrections in matters where the scriptures are explicit? Example mediator, Born again, great crowd?

There are no different from those same set of people today. In fact, after attending their meetings and seeing their false teachings, try correcting them and you see the turn against you. Calling you all sort of names.

So tell me! How are they different from those people? Many people have been killed because of Watchtower policies which should never have been made in the first place and which they claim was God's direction.

Forbidding organ transplant, immunization, the Malawi massacre, blood transfusion, civilian services? All these are policies that have resulted in so much dead. Watchtower literally has the blood of thousands if not millions of Jws dead in their hands.

So their conclusion: THEY WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE NEEDED CHANGES UNTIL EVERYTHING WORKS OUT AS IT OUGHT TO BE!
That is why the organization NEVER view Russel and his group as the founders whose teachings can't be reviewed! They were researchers and during research you shouldn't expect stagnancy.
Jehovah's Witnesses really appreciate the effort of the twentieth century Bible students association, however they are not the founders of Christianity. THAT IS WHY WE CAN'T REMAIN IN THEIR TEACHING!

The organization view Russell teachings as apostacy today. But these are the same teachings they call truth. Here are some of them.

The natural man can see that a visibly organized body, with a definite purpose, is a thing of more or less power; therefore they esteem the various organizations, from which we have come out, in obedience to the Master’s call. But the natural man cannot understand how a company of people, with no organization which they can see, is ever going to accomplish anything. As they look upon us, they regard us simply as a few scattered skirmishers—a “peculiar people”—with very peculiar ideas and hopes, but not worthy of special notice. Under our Captain, all the truly sanctified, however few or far separated in person, are closely united by the Spirit of Christ, in faith, hope and love; and, in following the Master’s command, are moving in solid battalions for the accomplishment of his purposes. But, bear in mind, God is not dependent upon numbers (See Judges 7, as an illustration). . .We always refuse to be called by any other name than that of our Head—Christians—continually claiming that there can be no division among those continually led by his Spirit and example as made known through his Word. - Watch Tower magazines of March 1883

Beware of “organization.” It is wholly unnecessary. The Bible rules will be the only rules you will need. Do not seek to bind others’ consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours. Believe and obey so far as you can understand God’s Word today, and so continue growing in grace and knowledge and love day by day. - Watch Tower magazines of February 1884

. . . by whatsoever names men may call us, it matters not to us; we acknowledge none other name than “the only name given under heaven and among men”—Jesus Christ. We call ourselves simply CHRISTIANS and we raise no fence to separate from us any who believe in the foundation stone of our building mentioned by Paul: “That Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures”; and those for whom this is not broad enough have no right to the name Christian. - Watch Tower magazines of September 15, 1885.

If Charles Taze Russel is alive today, he would be very happy that the organization is making progress and what's more? The group's name has been changed to 'Jehovah's Witnesses' and it has become a happy global family of like minded kingdom evangelizers!
So my friend, Russel is NOT Jesus Christ therefore it is only a buffoon that will be expecting intellectuals who later became members of the research team to remain stagnant like your folks practicing false religions usually does!

You said if CT Russell were alive today, he would be happy on what the organization has become. For someone that doesn't know any of his teaching, I'm not surprised. After his dead, the watchtower continued teaching that he was the faithful and discreet slave and Jesus was communicating with them through him. Now, today, he is not even considered among the faithful and discreet slave for according to new light, Jesus appointed the them in 1919.

Everything the society stands for today is what Russell abhor. Everything the society does today us why Russell stopped going to church for a long time before he formed his own group.

TATIME:
Jesus used Russel to rearrange Christianity which has been adulterated during the dark ages! Matthew 13:24-30
Russel's generation witnessed Jesus' return when He came to see how Christianity is flourishing on earth, when Jesus saw that what He instituted has been turned upside down[Luke 18:8] He started gathering sincere and honest hearted individuals to ORGANISE His congregation as it was in the first century. Russel and the others in that group were dealing with an invisible perfect being who patiently endured their misconceptions until everything is well arranged again now!

So, Jesus Christ has returned. You mean to say it's the third coming we are now expecting?

Na wah o

rottennaija:
The same is true, Jehovah's Witnesses today aren't ready to accept or make needed corrections in matters where the scriptures are explicit? Example mediator, Born again, great crowd?

There are no different from those same set of people today. In fact, after attending their meetings and seeing their false teachings, try correcting them and you see the turn against you. Calling you all sort of names.

So tell me! How are they different from those people? Many people have been killed because of Watchtower policies which should never have been made in the first place and which they claim was God's direction.

Forbidding organ transplant, immunization, the Malawi massacre, blood transfusion, civilian services? All these are policies that have resulted in so much dead. Watchtower literally has the blood of thousands if not millions of Jws dead in their hands.




The organization view Russell teachings as apostacy today. But these are the same teachings they call truth. Here are some of them.

The natural man can see that a visibly organized body, with a definite purpose, is a thing of more or less power; therefore they esteem the various organizations, from which we have come out, in obedience to the Master’s call. But the natural man cannot understand how a company of people, with no organization which they can see, is ever going to accomplish anything. As they look upon us, they regard us simply as a few scattered skirmishers—a “peculiar people”—with very peculiar ideas and hopes, but not worthy of special notice. Under our Captain, all the truly sanctified, however few or far separated in person, are closely united by the Spirit of Christ, in faith, hope and love; and, in following the Master’s command, are moving in solid battalions for the accomplishment of his purposes. But, bear in mind, God is not dependent upon numbers (See Judges 7, as an illustration). . .We always refuse to be called by any other name than that of our Head—Christians—continually claiming that there can be no division among those continually led by his Spirit and example as made known through his Word. - Watch Tower magazines of March 1883

Beware of “organization.” It is wholly unnecessary. The Bible rules will be the only rules you will need. Do not seek to bind others’ consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours. Believe and obey so far as you can understand God’s Word today, and so continue growing in grace and knowledge and love day by day. - Watch Tower magazines of February 1884

. . . by whatsoever names men may call us, it matters not to us; we acknowledge none other name than “the only name given under heaven and among men”—Jesus Christ. We call ourselves simply CHRISTIANS and we raise no fence to separate from us any who believe in the foundation stone of our building mentioned by Paul: “That Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures”; and those for whom this is not broad enough have no right to the name Christian. - Watch Tower magazines of September 15, 1885.



You said if CT Russell were alive today, he would be happy on what the organization has become. For someone that doesn't know any of his teaching, I'm not surprised. After his dead, the watchtower continued teaching that he was the faithful and discreet slave and Jesus was communicating with them through him. Now, today, he is not even considered among the faithful and discreet slave for according to new light, Jesus appointed the them in 1919.

Everything the society stands for today is what Russell abhor. Everything the society does today us why Russell stopped going to church for a long time before he formed his own group.

by whatsoever NAMES MEN may call us, it MATTERS NOT to US; we ACKNOWLEDGE NONE OTHER NAME than “the only NAME given under HEAVEN and among men”—JESUS CHRIST. We call ourselves simply CHRISTIANS and we raise no FENCE to SEPARATE from us any WHO BELIEVE in the FOUNDATION STONE of our BUILDING mentioned by PAUL: “That CHRIST died for our SINS according to the SCRIPTURES”; and those for whom this is not BROAD enough HAVE no RIGHT to the NAME CHRISTIAN. - Watch Tower magazines of September 15, 1885.

Half a century later, it WAS a complete REVERSAL.

rottennaija:
How did Russell rearrange Christianity? What did he do to rearrange it?

As @ 1955

Since then Christ has been supervising a work of dividing the “SHEEP” from the “GOATS” even as he foretold, a work of educating the sheeplike ones so that they can seek Jehovah, righteousness and meekness and thus be hidden in the day of his anger. This feature of Christ’s presence is really a time of favor for his followers on earth and will continue until the time for his apokalypsis, or his revealing, the “revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings due punishment upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.” Other scriptures refer to this “revelation” as Armageddon, “the war of the great day of God the Almighty.”— 2 Thess. 1:7, 8; Rev. 16:14, 16 , NW.


As @ 2013

What have we learned in this article? We answered three questions about when certain events would happen. First, the GREAT TRIBULATION did not begin in 1914 but will start when the United Nations attacks Babylon the Great. Second, Jesus DID NOT BEGIN to JUDGE the SHEEP and the GOATS in 1914. Instead, he will begin JUDGING during the GREAT TRIBULATION. Third, Jesus did not APPOINT the FAITHFUL SLAVE over ALL HIS BELONGINGS in 1919. He will do THIS during the GREAT TRIBULATION. So all three of the events mentioned at the beginning of this article will happen during the great tribulation. Does this change anything else about the way we understand the illustration of the faithful slave? Does it affect the way we understand other illustrations of Jesus that are being fulfilled during the time of the end?These Important questions will be answered in the following articles.

That's how Jesus has been arranging CHRISTIANITY. If you know you know, If you don't know now you know.

rottennaija:
The same is true, Jehovah's Witnesses today aren't ready to accept or make needed corrections in matters where the scriptures are explicit? Example mediator, Born again, great crowd?

There are no different from those same set of people today. In fact, after attending their meetings and seeing their false teachings, try correcting them and you see the turn against you. Calling you all sort of names.

So tell me! How are they different from those people? Many people have been killed because of Watchtower policies which should never have been made in the first place and which they claim was God's direction.

Forbidding organ transplant, immunization, the Malawi massacre, blood transfusion, civilian services? All these are policies that have resulted in so much dead. Watchtower literally has the blood of thousands if not millions of Jws dead in their hands.




The organization view Russell teachings as apostacy today. But these are the same teachings they call truth. Here are some of them.

The natural man can see that a visibly organized body, with a definite purpose, is a thing of more or less power; therefore they esteem the various organizations, from which we have come out, in obedience to the Master’s call. But the natural man cannot understand how a company of people, with no organization which they can see, is ever going to accomplish anything. As they look upon us, they regard us simply as a few scattered skirmishers—a “peculiar people”—with very peculiar ideas and hopes, but not worthy of special notice. Under our Captain, all the truly sanctified, however few or far separated in person, are closely united by the Spirit of Christ, in faith, hope and love; and, in following the Master’s command, are moving in solid battalions for the accomplishment of his purposes. But, bear in mind, God is not dependent upon numbers (See Judges 7, as an illustration). . .We always refuse to be called by any other name than that of our Head—Christians—continually claiming that there can be no division among those continually led by his Spirit and example as made known through his Word. - Watch Tower magazines of March 1883

Beware of “organization.” It is wholly unnecessary. The Bible rules will be the only rules you will need. Do not seek to bind others’ consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours. Believe and obey so far as you can understand God’s Word today, and so continue growing in grace and knowledge and love day by day. - Watch Tower magazines of February 1884

. . . by whatsoever names men may call us, it matters not to us; we acknowledge none other name than “the only name given under heaven and among men”—Jesus Christ. We call ourselves simply CHRISTIANS and we raise no fence to separate from us any who believe in the foundation stone of our building mentioned by Paul: “That Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures”; and those for whom this is not broad enough have no right to the name Christian. - Watch Tower magazines of September 15, 1885.



You said if CT Russell were alive today, he would be happy on what the organization has become. For someone that doesn't know any of his teaching, I'm not surprised. After his dead, the watchtower continued teaching that he was the faithful and discreet slave and Jesus was communicating with them through him. Now, today, he is not even considered among the faithful and discreet slave for according to new light, Jesus appointed the them in 1919.

Everything the society stands for today is what Russell abhor. Everything the society does today us why Russell stopped going to church for a long time before he formed his own group.

Researchers aren't stagnant with discoveries!
Russel NEVER claim to be Jesus so when himself and the group back then began making research, they welcome progressive changes in the policies and organizational directions of the group.
Moreover there was relative peace within the Jewish nation until Jesus established Christianity, ever since then the nation have no more peace till today!
So if this same Jesus now operates in the spirit intelligent person will not expect peace amongst those expecting him but there will be peace in the midst of his true followers just as it was with his first century followers.
Jehovah's Witnesses are ever ready to die for their faith and that is their heritage, before now they do wage war because of land dispute but since the last order from their commander in chief is to keep the sword in it's place, everyone can see that they will never take up weapons against anyone.
You're crying for them when they're dying for their faith, isn't that ironical?
They're not killing people of other faith and their number has increased from tens to millions of happy global family of worshipers. Hmmm, well if you don't have such faith it's not new but don't expect faithful servants of Jehovah to back off from their beliefs simply because of what you think!
Meanwhile the facts still remains :they are people who believe in fellowship of likeminded worshipers so try and fetch a better group for them otherwise no truthfully dedicated member like your Papa and Mama will listen to you!
You don't need to correct the organization,just go round and fetch a better one or better still organize a better performing group. That is what Kumuyi has been trying to do ever since he was disfellowshiped from the group. You too can be like him in starting a group of your own, if it is performing better than the Watchtower group, honest hearted persons will notice it and join you!

rottennaija:
The same is true, Jehovah's Witnesses today aren't ready to accept or make needed corrections in matters where the scriptures are explicit?

Says someone who Is not ready to accept correction , make changes and leave instead of loving his family than Jesus .

Example mediator, Born again, great crowd?

U are the one with false teaching sir. I saw @Jozzy4 challenge your post at Op. And u couldn't say a thing. I think u should reply his post first before claiming we are false on the issue of great crowd instead of peddling false information around . since you against us, you are not for us

On born again and mediator. What's the issue ? cc Jozzy4

Maximus69:
Researchers aren't stagnant with discoveries!
Russel NEVER claim to be Jesus so when himself and the group back then began making research, they welcome progressive changes in the policies and organizational directions of the group.

Moreover there was relative peace within the Jewish nation until Jesus established Christianity, ever since then the nation have no more peace till today!
So if this same Jesus now operates in the spirit intelligent person will not expect peace amongst those expecting him but there will be peace in the midst of his true followers just as it was with his first century followers.
Jehovah's Witnesses are ever ready to die for their faith and that is their heritage, before now they do wage war because of land dispute but since the last order from their commander in chief is to keep the sword in it's place, everyone can see that they will never take up weapons against anyone.
You're crying for them when they're dying for their faith, isn't that ironical?
They're not killing people of other faith and their number has increased from tens to millions of happy global family of worshipers. Hmmm, well if you don't have such faith it's not new but don't expect faithful servants of Jehovah to back off from their beliefs simply because of what you think!
Meanwhile the facts still remains :they are people who believe in fellowship of likeminded worshipers so try and fetch a better group for them otherwise no truthfully dedicated member like your Papa and Mama will listen to you!
You don't need to correct the organization,just go round and fetch a better one or better still organize a better performing group. That is what Kumuyi has been trying to do ever since he was disfellowshiped from the group. You too can be like him in starting a group of your own, if it is performing better than the Watchtower group, honest hearted persons will notice it and join you!

Abi, lol those guys behave like a pained EX that remove to move on. Stalking his partner around

achorladey:
As @ 1955

Since then Christ has been supervising a work of dividing the “SHEEP” from the “GOATS” even as he foretold, a work of educating the sheeplike ones so that they can seek Jehovah, righteousness and meekness and thus be hidden in the day of his anger. This feature of Christ’s presence is really a time of favor for his followers on earth and will continue until the time for his apokalypsis, or his revealing, the “revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings due punishment upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.” Other scriptures refer to this “revelation” as Armageddon, “the war of the great day of God the Almighty.”— 2 Thess. 1:7, 8; Rev. 16:14, 16 , NW.


As @ 2013

What have we learned in this article? We answered three questions about when certain events would happen. First, the GREAT TRIBULATION did not begin in 1914 but will start when the United Nations attacks Babylon the Great. Second, Jesus DID NOT BEGIN to JUDGE the SHEEP and the GOATS in 1914. Instead, he will begin JUDGING during the GREAT TRIBULATION. Third, Jesus did not APPOINT the FAITHFUL SLAVE over ALL HIS BELONGINGS in 1919. He will do THIS during the GREAT TRIBULATION. So all three of the events mentioned at the beginning of this article will happen during the great tribulation. Does this change anything else about the way we understand the illustration of the faithful slave? Does it affect the way we understand other illustrations of Jesus that are being fulfilled during the time of the end?These Important questions will be answered in the following articles.

That's how Jesus has been arranging CHRISTIANITY. If you know you know, If you don't know now you know.

You don't get it, as long as they are teaching it, it's a meat from Jehovah and will even kill you for speaking against it. When they are no longer teaching, it can then be called old light.

That's how Jesus has been arranging their version of Christianity.

Jessicha:
Says someone who Is not ready to accept correction , make changes and leave instead of loving his family than Jesus .



U are the one with false teaching sir. I saw @Jozzy4 challenge your post at Op. And u couldn't say a thing. I think u should reply his post first before claiming we are false on the issue of great crowd instead of peddling false information around . since you against us, you are not for us

On born again and mediator. What's the issue ? cc Jozzy4

And who says I am still there? What was Jozzy4 challenge? If I am against the false teachings of Jws, I'm glad I am. I owe you no apology

Maximus69:
Researchers aren't stagnant with discoveries!
Russel NEVER claim to be Jesus so when himself and the group back then began making research, they welcome progressive changes in the policies and organizational directions of the group.
Moreover there was relative peace within the Jewish nation until Jesus established Christianity, ever since then the nation have no more peace till today!
So if this same Jesus now operates in the spirit intelligent person will not expect peace amongst those expecting him but there will be peace in the midst of his true followers just as it was with his first century followers.
Jehovah's Witnesses are ever ready to die for their faith and that is their heritage, before now they do wage war because of land dispute but since the last order from their commander in chief is to keep the sword in it's place, everyone can see that they will never take up weapons against anyone.
You're crying for them when they're dying for their faith, isn't that ironical?
They're not killing people of other faith and their number has increased from tens to millions of happy global family of worshipers. Hmmm, well if you don't have such faith it's not new but don't expect faithful servants of Jehovah to back off from their beliefs simply because of what you think!
Meanwhile the facts still remains :they are people who believe in fellowship of likeminded worshipers so try and fetch a better group for them otherwise no truthfully dedicated member like your Papa and Mama will listen to you!
You don't need to correct the organization,just go round and fetch a better one or better still organize a better performing group. That is what Kumuyi has been trying to do ever since he was disfellowshiped from the group. You too can be like him in starting a group of your own, if it is performing better than the Watchtower group, honest hearted persons will notice it and join you!

Yes. Research evolves, but truth does not change. If there is anything you had believed and it changes, it was never truth in the first place. So, why not call it so? Why garnish it as if it were truth that changes?

Speaking of relative peace, I can list so many religious groups that have relatives peace among them. The same way Jws are ready to die for their faith is that same way Adventist are, it's the same way a church of christ member is, it's the same way a Redeem member is, so! What the difference about you?

rottennaija:
And who says I am still there? What was Jozzy4 challenge? If I am against the false teachings of Jws, I'm glad I am. I owe you no apology

Your card isn't there ? Card carrying member of JW ? I cannot laugh o . leave , if u truly want to obey Jesus and stop reacting around like a pained ex

See Jesus has finish it, whoever is against us Is not for us . search the post and reply it. He trashed your op.

I ask again, what wrong with born again and mediator ? Because JW say only God determine who is born again and not an individual decision caused issues right ?

Jessicha:
Says someone who Is not ready to accept correction , make changes and leave instead of loving his family than Jesus .



U are the one with false teaching sir. I saw challenge your post at Op. And u couldn't say a thing. I think u should reply his post first before claiming we are false on the issue of great crowd instead of peddling false information around . since you against us, you are not for us

Are you ready to accept corrections? Is Jesus your mediator or the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses?

Jessicha:
Your card isn't there ? Card carrying member of JW ? I cannot laugh o . leave , if u truly want to obey Jesus and stop reacting around like a pained ex

See Jesus has finish it, whoever is against us Is not for us . search the post and reply it. He trashed your op.

I ask again, what wrong with born again and mediator ? Because JW say only God determine who is born again and not an individual decision caused issues right ?

Are you born again? Is Jesus your mediator?

Jessicha:
Your card isn't there ? Card carrying member of JW ? I cannot laugh o . leave , if u truly want to obey Jesus and stop reacting around like a pained ex

See Jesus has finish it, whoever is against us Is not for us . search the post and reply it. He trashed your op.

I ask again, what wrong with born again and mediator ? Because JW say only God determine who is born again and not an individual decision caused issues right ?

Read 1 John 5:1

rottennaija:
Are you ready to accept corrections? Is Jesus your mediator or the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses?

Jesus is my mediator Sir , and every other witness ooo - 1Tim 2:5

Stop peddling false info

rottennaija:
Read 1 John 5:1

After God choose a person, that manifests in his or her life.

Read John 3:8 and tell me who chooses who is born again .

Jessicha:
Jesus is my mediator Sir , and every other witness ooo - 1Tim 2:5

Stop peddling false info

Then you should ask your friends here TATIME and Maximus69. Let them put you through their cherished understanding.