Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,151,673 members, 7,813,243 topics. Date: Tuesday, 30 April 2024 at 09:23 AM |
Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / Islam for Muslims / Translating 'Allah' As 'God' (14369 Views)
Ruling On Describing A Professional Player As “god” Or “godlike” / Maidah, 73… Allah As Only Supreme Being (2) (3) (4)
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (Reply) (Go Down)
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 10:07am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Afospecialk:I am more knowledgeable than you god. I have the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY with me. Your Quran doesn't have the history of your country in it, so it is not complete. The Book of Universal History reveals it all. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:10am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Sterope: All the names used to represent Allah in most cases undermine the true meaning of the name. A Christian Arab can call his God 'Allah' just as the Arab polytheists do in the past. This does not change the fact that Allah is far from all those lies they ascribe to Him. Oluwa, Lord, and other translations as been used for humans; an example may be found in the court, Lord Lugard, etc. May Allah grant us more understanding. 2 Likes |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by ImaIma1(f): 10:12am On Jun 21, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Who is Otem? 1 Like |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Hadampson(m): 10:16am On Jun 21, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Okay |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 10:16am On Jun 21, 2019 |
ImaIma1:Otem is the one sent into the world to deliver the world from mind slavery brought to humanity by religion. He is the one sent to reveal the universal history to humanity and to make the method of exploring God Almighty the way of science rather than religion. To know more, read the Book of Universal History. https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos 1 Like |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:24am On Jun 21, 2019 |
tintingz: Allah is the creator of Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Moses,.....Jesus and Muhammad. No matter the name He was called in the past. Allah Elah Elaha Eli Eloi Elohim Eloha ..... |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Saka4luv(m): 10:26am On Jun 21, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Allah is the most supreme He knows all that is hiding and over sees and hears all in and out of the Universe. Religious books clarification aside, which Religion is more homogeneous, oneness, peaceful, universal and truthful. Islam is till the only religion with no difference go to America Africa Asia all practicing same things, they prayer same way you can even enter any mosque to pray, speaks same words Arabic words of Holy-Quran, non alterations in any form as ever take place in The Quran the only Book that still stand it full original foam. Many facts and normal reasons as such for an intelligent person to see that Islam is the way because no any other religion as oneness unity perfectly same way of worshipping and same words of the Only Book in it originally foam like the Islam and the Quran.... if you reason my words you will know it not just comment but the fact. MA sallam may Allah guide us to the right path... 1 Like |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Sterope(f): 10:27am On Jun 21, 2019 |
When anyone says God, they mean the supreme God, the almighty or one God...a MONO God When we say Oluwa or Olohun in Yoruba we mean the same thing as God i.e a MONO God. It is the reason we have Mary; Maryam; Miriam; Moriamo; Marie.....all the listed is referring to Mother of Isa. Anyone with a basic knowledge of Abrahimic religion will tell you that. When Arabs say Allah, regardless of religious affiliation, they mean the almighty and the supreme being. The definition of who Allah is may differ but it doesn't stop the non-Muslim Arabs from meaning the Almighty. If I say Olohun or Oluwa etc, I am not referring to god's and I am not talking about the definition of Olohun according to Yoruba mythology. Those around me knows I am talking about the almighty according to my religious affiliation. When a Christian says it, everyone knows she is talking about Olohun of the Bible i.e Jesus Christ. Rashduct4luv: 5 Likes |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 10:30am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Saka4luv:What if you come to realise that all religions, including yours, are actually not the way to God Almighty, but the way of science? That's what is currently happening in the spiritual realm. The gods(past beings) who want science to prevail have captured the gods(past beings) who want religion to remain popular in the world. The result of this is that humans will rapidly start dropping religion for deep thinking and science because that's the only method that can help us to understand what God is. Allah, Yahweh and their likes are currently encaged and they will remain encaged for about a thousand years. Peace. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:35am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Sterope: Yes those around you may know but those reading you may not know. There is a difference between speech and writing. People seeing you may understand you in context of your appearance or perceived faith. If you make a post here and i don't know your faith before, how will i know which God/god you are talking about? If it is Allah, then it is Allah. I will immediately think you are referring to the Muslim God unless you state otherwise. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 10:36am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: Do you know that this Elaha first failed in his first incarnation into the homo sapiens era? He came to establish himself as a god, but could not achieve that. He was later successful in his second incarnation under the name of Abd Allah which later became Allah. Read the Book of Universal History for more. Homo Sapiens III :15- 23 15. Elaha was a homo sapiens born in a place now called Iran in the 70,054th year of the homo sapiens era.. 16. Now the name of his father was Abdulaha, who was a cattle rearer. 17. In those days, Elaha had no interest in becoming a cattle rearer like his father, rather, he loved to be among the storytellers and the singer of songs. 18. Now when Elaha was thirty years old, he dreamt and saw his consciousness flying in another body. 19. Then those who flew with him said to him, go and change the philosophy of your land. 20. Then Elaha awoke and declared himself to the people as the creator of the world. 21. Now he was taken and brought before the rulers of the land. Then he was offered a choice to either recant his pronouncement or face death. 22. Then Elaha recanted his profession and lived. Then the philosophy of his land which was the philosophy of Ilam, the god of the people, continued in those days. 23. So Elaha, who was also called Allah, could not establish his name as a god among the people until his death in the 70,098th year of the homo sapiens era. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:38am On Jun 21, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Inna Lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un May Allah grant you life. 1 Like |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Sterope(f): 10:42am On Jun 21, 2019 |
When a Christian Arab writes in his mother tongue, how would you know he isn't a Muslim if he uses the word Allah. Do you also think it is right to deprive natives of their word because it doesn't sit well with your interpretation? Rashduct4luv: 2 Likes |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 10:43am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv:How can a lifeless(vacuum-bound) Allah grant life to a lively Otem? Anyway, here is the successful history of the second incarnation of Allah your god. This time, he successfully made himself a god. Common Era 1: 6- 18 6. Now a man named Abd-Allah, being also a reincarnate of Allah, had no son. And Abd-Allah was a man of many words, having written a lot of philosophies. Now in those days, the people of the Arabians gathered before Abd-Allah to learn his words, for they regarded him as a god. 7. But the Zoroastrians and those who worshipped Illat and Hubab hated him, saying, why does Abd-Allah, a mere man, equate himself with a god? He shall die suddenly for this. 8. However, Abd-Allah continued to get stronger. And those who learnt his philosophies submitted themselves to him to be his slaves. And he said to them, all humans are my slaves, for they shall know it and become so in their souls. 9. Now when Moh had heard so much concerning Abd-Allah, he left Yanbu with Moh-Ahmad his son and came to Medina to see Abd-Allah to learn from him. Then Abd-Allah began to speak great words. 10. And he said to Moh, your son is one who shall make known my words to the world. Therefore I have laid hold on him and you cannot return with him anymore. 11. Now Moh bowed his head before Abd-Allah and said, blessed be you Abd-Allah, the most merciful and the most beneficial. For you have chosen my lowly son out of thousands of people. 12. You have said, let Moh-Ahmad be the propagator of your words. Who is Moh-Ahmad my son to be privileged to bear your words? He is like an ant before you. Take him with you and use him as you wish. 13. Now Abd-Allah put his right hand on the forehead of Moh and said, your name shall be famed together with the name of your son Ahmad forever, because you have chosen not to withdraw him from my presence, but rather, you have released him to me Allah, the greatest. 14. Now return to your land in peace while Ahmad your son shall remain with me. And Aminah my wife shall take care of him. I can assure you that there shall be no sufferring come upon Ahmad your son. 15. And Mohammad shall his name be called forever. 16. Now Mohammad was Seventeen years old when he came to be with Abd-Allah. And Abd-Allah taught him all his philosophies, saying, you must observe all of it. 17. Now when Moh had returned to Yanbu his land of nativity, Ramata his wife asked, saying, where is Moh-Ahmad our son whom you took with you to Medina? Then Moh said, do not call him our child anymore, rather, call him the slave of Abd-Allah our god. 18. For he is now a slave to Abd-Allah, the most merciful and the most beneficial, whose seat is in Medina. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OfficialAPCNig: 10:44am On Jun 21, 2019 |
This is the only thing that caught my attention La Ilaha Illa Allah is there is no god but GODMoslems can continue to deceive themselves. Illah is the arabic equivalent for god. Al'lah means The God and this was the name given to the ancient arabic Chief god and Mohammed chose the name to for the god of his new religion to make it easier to convert Meccans. Our doubting moslem brothers: why is Illah interpreted as God in Arabic? 5 Likes |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by hybext(m): 10:49am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Allah is the greatest |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Predstan: 10:49am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: I don’t understand why you can’t argue with him intellectually but resort to these words... is this not how Religion was imposed on Us?? If you think he’s saying Rubbish, just write your counter and explain your religion 1 Like |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OfficialAPCNig: 10:56am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Saka4luv:Oneness? You must be joker. Shia and Sunni believe entirely different things, pray separately and observe their Ramadan slightly different. Peaceful? Do you really know what peace means? Tell me just one Christian state that is battling religious crisis today. Libya, Sudan, Syria, Yemen, Northern Nigeria, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, e.t.c Saka4luv:Stop deceiving yourself. Yoruba moslems don't even pray the same way as Northern moslems and Shias and Sunnis pray differently. Saka4luv:You really need help from this delusion. 3 Likes |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Saka4luv(m): 10:56am On Jun 21, 2019 |
OtemAtum: Science is part of knowledge my friend all scientist will say Ohh God! when in big or tough situations without them knowing sometimes, why? Science helps in solving many problems and still create many problems during the process science is the root of civilization that brings western worlds and still leads to unsafely worlds..... who create chemicals who create guns weapons drugs space craft who invent this and that all is done to increase living standards of people and live healthy right? but later will turns out to have it disadvantages that will cause much of damage lost of live even extinction of creatures.... Science is by human and human can never be perfect that our in perfection is what GOD the all knowing use to create us and nothing we can do about it nothing can be perfect from man with time another man will see fault and try to improve on it till the world ends we will always continue to make the world better by science and technology and problems will surely be arising cuz of our imperfections..... science is knowledge to acquire to solve few problems and can never supersede religion non can it be a true way to follow. scientist still pray when in problem to who? and why? Many questions are still there that scientists has no answer to... many |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Kokoebapluse(m): 11:03am On Jun 21, 2019 |
OtemAtum: . Guy why you always like to disgrace cross rat ? Who told you (Yahweh) is God? Where in ot Jesus call God (Yahweh) ? Yahweh is Idol and he belongs to isreal only. Can you show me in your Bible where God said I am (Yahweh)? Can you show me in Bible where (Yahweh) can be found? What is the meaning of (Yahweh) ? Allah above all nonsense. You are in great confusion 1 Like |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 11:08am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Saka4luv:When God Almighty sent Allah, Yahweh, Chaleb, Moloch, Vishnu, Chimides, Olorun, Chukwu, Nyame, Enlil etc into the universes billions of years ago, it didn't send them for the purpose of turning the universes to places where they are occupied with worshipping itself or any of these its offsprings I mentioned above, rather God Almighty told them to go and explore the universes. Now what the gods of science are trying to achieve is to bring back humanity into full science, whereby we can discover more of the Nature of God Almighty. Religion doesn't lead to God Almighty, the totality of existence, rather, it leads to each of the gods. For example, Zoroastrianism leads to the worship of Ahura Mazda, Islam leads to the worship of Abd Allah(aka Allah), Christianity and Judaism lead to the worship of Yahweh+fictitious Jesus and Yahweh respectively. Hinduism leads to the worship of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma. But using scientific method helps to discover the nature of Existence and God Almighty is the TOTALITY OF EXISTENCE. You said that nothing can be perfect with man, yes, this is because the knowledge of God Almighty (Totality of Existence) is immeasurable and unquantifiable. Therefore human beings from generation to generation will keep discovering and rediscovering the ever-dynamic God Almighty, unlike the ever-static(unchanging) Yahweh and Allah, the puny gods majority of humans now worship. The universal rule is: 1. Use your brain 2. Worship no god(or God Almighty) 3. Do good to humanity. Once you can meet up with these standards, then you are fulfilling the universal rule of this NEW AGE. Peace. 1 Like |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 11:11am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Kokoebapluse:Did you see me mention that Yahweh is God Almighty? As a matter of fact, Yahweh is not even up to 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of God Almighty in power, energy or extent, same as Allah. God Almighty is beyond anything human beings have ever worshipped. God Almighty is the totality of existence. It is the source of all these puny gods you humans have ever worshipped and the best way to understand God Almighty is through science rather than religion. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Kokoebapluse(m): 11:16am On Jun 21, 2019 |
All beautiful name belong to Allah, (Allah) is Arabic and Qur'an was reaveled in Arabic. But not only Arabic language is in the world. There many languages. And Allah also said I created you in different (languages) and tribe. So it clear that there other language and they are also believe in 1 creator. But how u you to worship God will determine whether you are serving truth God. God in English language still means the same as Allah in Arabic. Nothing bad if you called Allah as (God ) and God means Allah. Also in yoruba language you can call God (olohun) but to be honest there is nothing wrong calling Allah in others Languages. But the most good on is to call him Allah in Qur'an Wich book of muslim. But Allah means God in English. And it means olohun in yoruba. 1 Like |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by tencobrown: 11:29am On Jun 21, 2019 |
OtemAtum:may you accept Islam on no distance time. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 11:50am On Jun 21, 2019 |
tencobrown:And may you accept the truth of reality soonest. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by sino(m): 12:06pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: God, the Most Beautiful Word in English The English word “God” is a unique linguistic and theological treasure. It is pre-historic, extending into the Neolithic period and deriving from the proto-Indo- European root gheu (∂), meaning “to invoke” or “to supplicate.” “God” is a past participial construction, meaning “the one who is invoked” or “the one who is called upon.” Like Sanskrit, Persian, Urdu, and most of the European languages, English belongs to the Indo-European family. Our word “God”—proto- Indo-European Ghuto—corresponds linguistically to the Sanskrit past participle hūta (“invoked” or “called upon”), which appears in the Indic Vedas in the divine epithet puruhūta (“much invoked”). Etymologically, “God”—“the one who is invoked in prayer”—is remarkably close in meaning to the Biblical Elo¯ hîm and Alāhā and the Qur’anic Allah, which, as we have seen, convey the sense of “the one who is worshipped.” “God” is also virtually identical in connotation to the Native American Lenape word for the Supreme Being “You to whom we pray.” Supplication and worship are closely interrelated. The Prophet said in a well-known Tradition: “Supplication is the essence of worship.” The English word “God” in its present form is ancient and pre-Christian, having no hidden or implicit link with Trinitarian theology. Its earliest documented historical use is in the poem Beowulf, the oldest poem in the English language and the earliest European vernacular epic. Beowulf relates pre-Christian events from the early sixth century, a generation or so before the birth of the Prophet Muhammad. Western scholars often find Beowulf paradoxical, because it lacks distinctive Christian references but speaks constantly of God’s grandeur, taking every occasion to praise God and give him thanks. “God” in its present form is the most common word for the Creator in the epic, but the poem also contains scores of other magnificent divine names, which are so deeply embedded in its fabric that they cannot have been interpolated later by medieval monks. Although Beowulf refers to the creation, Adam, Noah, the Flood, the resurrection, judgment, heaven and hell, it contains no references to Mosaic or post-Mosaic Biblical events or to Christ, the crucifixion, Trinitarian dogma, saints, relics, or similar elements that one would expect to find, if there had been any subsequent medieval editing. The poem declares God’s oneness explicitly and extols his wise and merciful governance of the world and its people; it rejects and ridicules paganism as the work of the devil, and the epic’s hero, Beowulf—a brave and mighty but truly humble man of God—engages in constant combat with the diabolical forces of evil and destruction. Not just in its many words for God but in general, the religious vocabulary of Beowulf expresses with exactitude the crux of the spiritual and theological vision which Muslims find so precisely expressed in the Arabic language. Beowulf is a testimony to the English language’s unique richness and should inspire us, as English-speaking Muslims, with a deeper respect for our language and its inherent power to express not only our concept of the divine but the entire repertoire of primordial prophetic teaching." Source: Dr. Umar Faruq Abd-Allah, One God Many Names, (Nawawi Foundation Paper, 2004) |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by tintingz(m): 12:20pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv:Allah is Arabia deity that want people to face the Kaaba to worship him even during pre-islamic era, Elohim is a Hebrew deity that's worship in synagogue by the jews. El, Yahweh, Jehovah are Cannanites/Jewish gods. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by baio: 12:37pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
tencobrown:Who is otom Who wrote this book And where is it published. From what uve written, I can deduce even otom couldn't control vaccum, he doesn't have the calculation of space or distance. Which makes God of science more powerful. Another deduction, if more people that dies with the doctrine of any religion can be made into gods of almost equal power with the first created that means each god has his own armies that would fight for their leader not to be encaged in the cage u said they're locked in. (counting the number of people in different religions that have died compared to those that died with belief in science) The vacuum cage which otom himself doesn't understand. Your book of history leaves alot of things o. It looks like all these Greek God's novels. Alot of similarities between them. |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by latyph(m): 12:37pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
Alhamdulilah |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by Nobody: 12:39pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
OtemAtum: you are dead: 1. before posting, u accepted to be a Muslim and believe in Allah. 2. you posted rubbish without justifying your comment 3. How did you know that the statement is for the dead... INALILAHI WAINA LAE ROJIUN 1 Like |
Re: Translating 'Allah' As 'God' by OtemAtum: 12:46pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
weavesquad:How did you know that I accepted to be a Muslim before posting? How did you know that I believe in Allah? weavesquad: 2. you posted rubbish without justifying your commentWhat I posted is backed up by the thummims(prophecies) found in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. This same book is one which reveals how God Almighty created Allah your god. weavesquad: 3. How did you know that the statement is for the dead...I am not an illiterate. As a matter of fact, I have been able to understand more than 300 ancient languages by revelation. I can speak many extinct language, including the Seriot Language which all gods of the past world preferred in those days. I can even tell you Allah's preferred quotation in the Seriot Language if you care to know. "Al pesh wooshiere yim wuyum trish årevizz". Translation: "I love violence more than anything in the world" This is the reason why Violence can never depart from Islam, the religion of Allah. |
(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (Reply)
How To Protect Your Marriage / DPO Mahi Ahmad Ali Wins Qur'an Police Competition In Kano / "Bomb Blasts In Nigeria Ridiculing Islam" -Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 145 |