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| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Janosky: 3:30pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Emusan:Emusan : JWs themselves admitted that the rendering of Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah " That is the LIE Emusan is guilty of.. JWs NEVER said it. **** Mr LIAR, you are NOT honest. You posted this write up below, yet you still LIED that JWs said it. "Hebrew scholars generally favor "Yahweh" as the most likely pronunciation." [/size] Aid to Bible Understanding, Watchtower Bible And Tract Society, 1971, pp. 884, 885 Please note: Hebrew scholars generally favor "Yahweh" as the most likely pronunciation." ***This is JWs authentic statement below. NWT---New World Translation is the Jehovah's witness version of the Holy Bible. 1. The Usage of Jehovah in the NWT In the NWT, the Bible of the Jehovah's Witnesses, we read the following: "Therefore, the foremost feature of this translation is the RESTORATION of the DIVINE NAME to its rightful place in the English text. It has been done, using the commonly ACCEPTED English form "Jehovah" 6,973 times in the Hebrews Scriptures and 237 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures." NWT p6. |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 3:50pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Janosky:So clear that you didn't read the link I provided. Go back and read it slowly this time to clear your delusions. No time to spoon feed you! |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Janosky: 5:25pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Janosky:I have read your link hence I could see what every honest person would see in that link coupled with your statement. You can't stop LYING. Did you Emusan post these statements (1) & (2)? Pls give an honest reply. |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 5:44pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Janosky:If you actually read the link, how come you missed the part in the attached pix below Delusion JWs!
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| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 6:10pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
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| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Janosky: 6:42pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Emusan:"God's name? "While inclining to view the pronunciation [size=14pt]"Yah.weh" as the more correct way,[/size] we have retained the form [size=14pt]"Jehovah" because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century." Ibid., p. 23 The above statement is a misleading fabrication of your copy and paste online crew. *Please note: Hebrew scholars generally favor "Yahweh" as the most likely pronunciation." [quote author=Emusan JWs have NEVER said Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah" Fact** |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 8:11pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
Janosky:If not because you're daft What is the meaning of this statement? "While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah.weh" as the more correct way, we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century." Ibid., p. 23 Yet you called me a liar, when it's obvious you're the liar and keep exposing your ignorance! YAHWEH as the MORE CORRECT way indicated that this is a comparison statement. Then I can ask you, which one is not MORE CORRECT WAY? Even hear your hypocrite organization speaking from both mouths "Thus it is evident that the original pronunciation of God's name is no longer known. Nor is it really important. If it were, then God Himself would have made sure that it was preserved for us to use. The important thing is to use God's name according to its conventional pronunciation in our own language." The Divine Name That Will Endure Forever p.7 Pronunciation of God's name isn't important and God didn't bother to preserve it yet you carry the name on head like Gala. |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Janosky: 9:20pm On Jul 05, 2019 |
70 . Emusan ( m ): Quote Post "If not because you're daft What is the meaning of this statement? "While inclining to view the pronunciation "Yah.weh" as the more correct way, we have retained the form "Jehovah" because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century." The above statement is a misleading fabrication of Emusan copy and paste online crew. *Please note: Hebrew scholars generally favor "Yahweh" as the most likely pronunciation." [quote author=Emusan JWs have NEVER said Yahweh is more accurate than Jehovah" Fact** The truth is ALWAYS bitter to your ears and unreceptive heart. *** I challenge Emusan to name JW publication where he read am say "Yah.weh" is more accurate than Jehovah? Na which JW publication dey spell "Yah.weh" like that where dot dey for middle ? Emusan dey here dey rant up and down and lie. You too dey LIE ! |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Barristter07: 11:27am On Jul 09, 2019 |
Janosky:He probably has comprehension issue. |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Barristter07: 11:29am On Jul 09, 2019 |
[quote author=Emusan post=79977365][/quote] " While many are inclined to view the pronunciation “Yahweh” as the more correct way, we have retained the form “Jehovah” because of people’s familiarity with it for centuries. " https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101985061 How does this translate to they agree Yahweh is more correct ? |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 12:19pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
Barristter07:See the person accusing someone of having comprehension issue whereas is you and your brother who have been displaying such here. This statement "...WE HAVE RETAINED the form JEHOVAH because of people's familiarity with it" what does it mean? If the speaker point wasn't because Yahweh is accurate than Jehovah The statement should have been "...we have retained the form Jehovah because it's the actual correct one" ![]() Also see what your hypocritical organisation has to say about the name you're fighting for. "Thus it is evident that the original pronunciation of God's name is no longer known. Nor is it really important. If it were, then God Himself would have made sure that it was preserved for us to use. The important thing is to use God's name according to its conventional pronunciation in our own language." The Divine Name That Will Endure Forever p.7 |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Barristter07: 12:38pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
Emusan:Where in that statement I gave you did the speaker said Yahweh is more correct ? The speaker only agreed or acknowledged that there are various forms Favoured by different people for various reasons . " The form Jehovah " shows where the speaker belongs . the Form he agreed with. The speaker then went ahead to state his own reasons for adopting that! Comprehende ? The statement should have been "...we have retained the form Jehovah because it's the actual correct one"Just as you use the original pronunciation for Jesus and others ? |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 1:10pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
Barristter07:And where did I say "YOU SAID" the speaker says so The speaker only agreed or acknowledged that there are various forms Favoured by different people for various reasonsLook at the two @underlined as see how you lie boldly in broad daylight. @underlined 1: The speaker specifically mentioned YAHWEH which is not about agreeing or acknowledge VARIOUS FORMS (Plural) @underlined 1: No reason was stated rather emphasized that "the pronunciation of Yahweh is MORE CORRECT WAY" "The form Jehovah " shows where the speaker belongs . the Form he agreed with.Are you saying the form Yahweh and form Jehovah are different ![]() And imagine the ridiculous reason "because people familiarity with it" Does people familiarity make it correct one? Whereas you are the one who will claim you people are the only followers of Christ irrespective of what others hold about God. Hypocrite! Comprehende ?Best for you! Just as you use the original pronunciation for Jesus and others ?Dumb excuse as usual....so it means the word Jehovah you're even pronouncing isn't the actual one and you think with your dumb skull that it'll will please God. How do you know the conventional pronunciation in your language when the ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION has lost Even with this obvious statement from your demonic organization, it's enough to open your eyes. |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by PastorAIO: 3:24pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
What kind of children are these that don't even know their father's name? |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by PastorAIO: 3:32pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
Emusan:Says who? We know that from time immemorial the Jews have kept the name secret. How do you know that that secret is still not being kept by the select few? Just because you don't know doesn't mean that nobody else must know. Haven't you just shot yourself in the foot by saying the name is not important. You who have started a whole cult on the basis of restoring this name that you don't even know. From what I can tell from the bible the name was indeed important and so the reason it has not been 'preserved for you to use' must be because you are not favoured in any way. |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Janosky: 3:56pm On Jul 09, 2019*. Modified: 4:22pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
Emusan: Emusan:Emusan and sense are mutually divorced since 19gbidigbidi !!!! *1) Emusan Pharisee, so it does not please God that Jehovah is written in your KJV Bible? You be Pharisee confirmed ! **2). The same way you know that the "conventional pronunciation" of the name of God's son (is Jesus, even when it's "ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION " Yehoshua" is known.) that's the same way we know the "conventional pronunciation" of YHWH is Jehovah even though the ORIGINAL Pronunciation of YHWH is unknown. **3) Since you know the actual pronunciation of God's name is unknown to anyone alive today, why are you so daft to LIE that Yahweh is the correct way to pronounce YHWH? |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 3:57pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
PastorAIO:I guess this post wasn't directed to me.... |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 4:23pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
Janosky: The same way you know that the "conventional pronunciation" of the name of God's son (is Jesus, even when it's "ORIGINAL PRONUNCIATION " Yehoshua" is known.) that's the same way we know the "conventional pronunciation" of YHWH is Jehovah (if you prefer Yahweh, issue no dey)The reason why you people will continue to be confused as anything is that your brain is too blocked and defiled the law of reasoning. Did you even ever ask yourself why your own organization says "While many are inclined to view the pronunciation “Yahweh” as the more correct way,..."? The reason is looking at the root word from where both YAHWEH and Jehovah derived from, Yahweh closed to the root word, where Jehovah only has two alphabets of the root word. This is different from other Biblical names where their root names and pronunciation are known. See the picture below..... Ode or you want to tell me that the pronunciation of Jesus has been lost too..
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| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Nobody: 4:37pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
Janosky:JEHOVAH is the pronunciation found in the KJV and all his arguments is based on whatever is found in the same KJV version to contradict the NWT. So there's no need for further arguments, he should go and correct their KJV, replace JEHOVAH with YAHWEH or case closed! Exodus 6:2-3, Psalms 83:18 Isaiah 12:2,26:4 ![]() |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Janosky: 4:47pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
PastorAIO:*1). JWs have NEVER said God's name is not important, point of correction. **2). We know it's the Tetragrammaton YHWH even though nobody today knows it's exact pronunciation today. **3) quote author=PastorAIO post=80096146] "Says who? We know that from time immemorial the Jews have kept the name secret. How do you know that that secret is still not being kept by the select few? " This is in the realm of FAT LIE. At best, a conjecture , no solid proof. |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Nobody: 5:20pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
Is God's personal name significant? John 17:26 Do we need God's name for anything? Matthew 6:9 What did God say about HIS name? Exodus 6:2,3 Is the name relevant for Salvation? Joel 2:32 I believe if the name is worthy before HIS worshippers, they should make use of it as found in their copy of the Bible. There's nothing controversial about that! ![]() |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Nobody: 5:35pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
TATIME:GBAM! Trust you Tatime, So everyone should use the name found in their VERSION of the Bible! Well i've used the KJV for decades now and the divine name is rendered JEHOVAH! |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by orisa37: 6:30pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
Everything is The True Name of God. Words like Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding are Names you must not joke with. Or else you will be Foolish, Silly and Ignorant. Jehovah is a Vulgate Bible interpretation of Yahweh of The Septuagint. Yahweh is Greek and It is Y H W H in Hebrew. Y is Je in Vulgate. H is Ho in Vulgate. W is V in Vulgate. And H preceeded by a vowel a pronounces W & H Vah. Putting them together you have Je-ho-vah. YHWH is Hebrew. Yahweh is Greek. Jehovah is Latin and The Lord God Almighty is English. Oluwa Olorun Olodumare !!! |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jul 09, 2019 |
orisa37:Oluwa is a title meaning OWNER! Olorun is a title meaning GOD! Olodumare is a title meaning ALMIGHTY! None of these three is a name Sir,they're all titles ! So any nation can call their deity any of the three, that's why the Bible God consistently refers to himself as The God of Abraham The God Issac The God of Jacob He wants everyone to relate with him the same way these three persons did in the past, that's why each person must know how exactly do this people call him back then! This is the main reason why the Arabs are fighting really hard to eradicate the Jews because the Jews will never agree that their God should be called by names that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never called their God! ![]() |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by PastorAIO: 9:42am On Jul 10, 2019 |
Emusan:That would depend on whether you were a JW or not. |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by PastorAIO: 9:54am On Jul 10, 2019 |
Janosky:It's a question. A question cannot be a lie nor a conjecture. It's simple. It's a known fact that Jews kept the name secret and only released YHWH, so I ask you, how do you know that the full name is not being preserved somewhere? |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Nobody: 10:06am On Jul 10, 2019 |
PastorAIO:Because they kept it secret for too long, the correct pronunciation of the name was lost. But during the translation from Greek to English, JEHOVAH was the conclusion of the early translators. One fact remains that most people often argued that the alphabet 'J' wasn't included in the Jewish writing. But that could be questioned because the city of the great king is named 'J'erusalem till today! ![]() |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 10:35am On Jul 10, 2019 |
Maximus69:Look at the @underlined and see how you're lying on a public forum. First, Jehovah never have anything to do with Greek even the Greek writers who pen down the NT never use it. Lastly, even your organization knows that Jehovah was formed by a Roman Catholic mock Ray who is never a translator of any version of the Bible. The funny thing is, you accuse people of substituting Lord or God which is from Adonai or Elohim but to even choose Jehovah that a Vowel of Adonai or Elohim was inserted to form and because of "people's familiarity with it" is the most irony of it all. One fact remains that most people often argued that the alphabet 'J' wasn't included in the Jewish writing. But that could be questioned because the city of the great king is named 'J'erusalem till today!The J argument isn't the most center one, the main issue is that Jehovah was formed wrongly and never that important just as your organization agreed. Check the pic below the major problem with the word Jehovah and why Yahweh supersedes it.
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| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Nobody: 11:06am On Jul 10, 2019*. Modified: 11:27am On Jul 10, 2019 |
Emusan:Why are you so obsessed with the word 'LYING'? ![]() Well i said the name JEHOVAH was the conclusion of the first English translators who translated the Bible from Greek to English! ![]() That's why you're seeing the name JEHOVAH in your KJV today, otherwise there wouldn't have been anything like that to be found in the King James Authorised Version of the English Bible Sir! ![]() Haba don't allow the antijw virus in your brains to blur your sight nah! ![]() |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Barristter07: 12:19pm On Jul 10, 2019 |
Emusan:And Who exactly emphasized that Yahweh is more correct ? Are you saying the form Yahweh and form Jehovah are differentAnd Yahweh is the correct one ? What matters is the Divine name was restored to its right place in the scripture _ the four Hebrew consonants standing for the Divine name are very much RETAINED [YHWH/ JHVH ] Dumb excuse as usual....so it means the word Jehovah you're even pronouncing isn't the actual one and you think with your dumb skull that it'll will please God.Pronunciation is not the issue here since even Jesus is not the correct pronunciation, But are the Four consonants RETAINED ? |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by kkins25(m): 12:26pm On Jul 10, 2019 |
PastorAIO:you know,@bolded, ive read that verse a few times and i've never seen it this way. this is indeed a great revelation to me. some scholars make it seem like as if he hid his yaweh identity from the isrealites. you have now expose to me that this entity was actually saying he doesn't know anything about that name |
| Re: Is Jehovah / Jehova The True Name Of God? by Emusan(m): 12:32pm On Jul 10, 2019 |
Maximus69:I obsessed with your lies because only a follower of Satan can boldly lie. So do you now agree that KJV is an authentic Bible version since it contains the very word your organization says people don't use again? Besides, the point is why will watchtower society who came later after KJV continue to use the form Jehovah when it's obvious is a wrong formulation? How will God claim to give watchtower society a NEW NAME, yet God didn't bother to preserve the pronunciation? Isn't God supposed to tell the NEW PEOPLE how His name will be pronounced? Do you now realize that you are addressing God with wrong pronunciation? In case you don't know, let use this as an example The word "Ogun" has different pronunciation in Yoruba which leads to its different meanings. What if the pronunciation of Yoruba "god of Iron" is lost and the worshippers addressing their god "ogun - as in 'stab or twenty'", do you think it's proper? |
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