A40:
You people always make me laugh with this talk. Half the league is copying some of Jordan's moves while the others they can't even reenact because the Basketball gods didn't bless them with the skills to pull it off. But[b]you think the GOAT would not be able to cope with a mere rule change that would lighten his burden offensively as well thanks to the beating he took going to the baske[/b]t

Yea, moves like the Harden step back and floater, or the Curry LeBron/Same deep three. Lol. Mention one of Jordan's moves that's been replicated in today's game.

But we were talking of his defense, how did his offence get into this discussion?

Jordan's defence was praised mostly because of his ability to rob a player off the ball one on one. In today's game, a lot of those steals would have been called a foul because of the way he had to make physical contact with the player to rob him off the ball.

donlittle25:
I find this funny.

Cause bron fans try to discredit Mj saying he played plumbers and because they are plumbers they couldn’t guard him but now you are using physicality against him.

Lol, man had to bring LeBron into this.

A40:
People think good defense is about physicality and athleticism. How athletic was Bruce Bowen?

Every day we keep hearing nonsense about how players in this era are bigger, stronger, faster more athletic but why is Steph Curry thriving and torching fools? How did a midget like Isaiah Thomas drop 29 per game in one season.

It's very laughable when you hear people go on ad nauseum as if basketballers of today have reinvented some wheel, as if pick and roll isn't still the staple of the offense

It's rather counter intuitive to state this and then go aged to ask why Stephen and IT are/were so good.

KNIGHTBlaed:


Thanks for your take. I know you are a calm nice guy and please let us start seeing that side of you. But yet my Clippers will Clip you guys down. Can't wait for the season to start .

I am not calm, i am certainly not nice. Your clippers? LOL! Bandwagon. Mark me, there's only one franchise in LA and these are the only clippers that matter.

Sometimes i lose track of all the people i'm beefing with on this thread. There's so many of them and i mix up their handles. By God, i may not remember why but i still loathe you all.

Khanben:
IMHO comparing eras does not really work because of the type of play and differences in rules. Especially in teams sports from football to basketball and American football to name a few, different eras are difficult to compare across board because of even little things like nutrition, ease of commute etc.
I remember one open court episode where Shaq could not believe there was a time NBA players flew coach, little things like this even advance in medical sciences simply ensures that a level playing field for comparison does not objectively exist.

Therefore, the best thing to do is to divide the game into different eras. Jordan is the GOAT of his era and LeBron is the GOAT of his era.

KNIGHTBlaed:

My prediction:

West top 5
1. Clippers
2. Lakers
3. GSW
4. Nuggets
5. Rockets/Blazers
Surprise package: Pelicans

East top 5
1. Bucks
2. Sixers
3. Nets
4. Celtics
5. Anybody
Surprise package: I no expect anything

East
Sixers
Nets
Bucks
Heat

West
Lakers
Clippers
Denver
Warriors
Houston


Has nothing to do with the playoffs.

SmooshCHN:


East
Sixers
Nets
Bucks
Heat

West
Lakers
Clippers
Denver
Warriors.


Has nothing to do with the playoffs.

The celtics and the pacers will definitely do better than the nets and the heat.

The lakers finishing as the one seed is highly unlikely. Trust me, with LeBron there is going to be drama. But come playoffs, we smoke them all.

RiskelWillow:



The celtics and the pacers will definitely do better than the nets and the heat.

The lakers finishing as the one seed is highly unlikely. Trust me, with LeBron there is going to be drama. But come playoffs, we smoke them all.

Barring major injuries to these teams, i don't think anyone's list will be off by a mile. Most likely a drop or one step increase in the seeding.

Of course I forgot the Pacers.. I've not been following the Celtics.

steady986:

It's rather counter intuitive to state this and then go aged to ask why Stephen and IT are/were so good.

Smh. Isn't that my point? So when casuals and millenials go on ad nauseum about how the players in this era are bigger, stronger, faster more athletic and other megedefegede. Why do we have some of the best players in this era completely make a mockery of that claim.

The most important muscle is the one between your ears. I'm tired of schooling Bronsexuals on this

Looks like you just ran to reply without reading

When a Bronsexual tells you Jordan's teams were "Stacked"

A40:
People no dey really fear Serena again. I don't know if it's motherhood but stepping on the court half the time you feel you have lost already when you see her on the other side.

This was the same Halep that she was 9-1 ahead of prior to today but see how Halep jumped on her throat from the first game. First Kerber, then Osaka and now Halep. A pattern is emerging

I see it differently. She is coming back from motherhood and has made significant progress since she came back. It's a journey. I believe she will get back to elite level and winning titles soon.

KNIGHTBlaed:


Thanks for your take. I know you are a calm nice guy and please let us start seeing that side of you. But yet my Clippers will Clip you guys down. Can't wait for the season to start .

I see what you did there. ..

steady986:


Yea, moves like the Harden step back and floater, or the Curry LeBron/Same deep three. Lol. Mention one of Jordan's moves that's been replicated in today's game.

But we were talking of his defense, how did his offence get into this discussion?

Jordan's defence was praised mostly because of his ability to rob a player off the ball one on one. In today's game, a lot of those steals would have been called a foul because of the way he had to make physical contact with the player to rob him off the ball.

Are you a comedian or something? One of the all-time greats Kobe Bryant literally photocopied MJ's game and dominated an era.

Even Dirk's one legged fadeaway was a modification of MJ's move, your MCM LeNomad, Wade, Melo. Who was Kawhi's style of play most compared to this post season? Even the mental midget DeRozan. You must be joking surely! His mid-air switches are obviously harder to implement by players today but to suggest players didn't and aren't still copying the GOAT is pure clownspeak

What nonsense physical contact are you talking about? Anticipation, ability to jump passing lanes can also help you get steals. Jordan was also an elite shot blocker at his position so I don't even know what you're talking about.

DeeMain:


I see it differently. She is coming back from motherhood and has made significant progress since she came back. It's a journey. I believe she will get back to elite level and winning titles soon.

She has had a remarkable journey so far and I believe no woman has come back from motherhood to still play at such high level. However I think she is at that level already. Why she lost yesterday and her previous two grand slams is not down to motherhood.

There are clear chinks in her armor and I reiterate Serena has lost that fear factor especially in the big games. She had started losing Finals in quick succession before motherhood. It's possible that she still wins at least one or two more slams just because of how great she is

RiskelWillow:
Sometimes i lose track of all the people i'm beefing with on this thread. There's so many of them and i mix up their handles. By God, i may not remember why but i still loathe you all.

I smell narcissism and megalomania

A40:
Smh. Isn't that my point? So when casuals and millenials go on ad nauseum about how the players in this era are bigger, stronger, faster more athletic and other megedefegede. Why do we have some of the best players in this era completely make a mockery of that claim.

The most important muscle is the one between your ears. I'm tired of schooling Bronsexuals on this

Looks like you just ran to reply without reading

No, you made those comments about Curry and IT because you feel they are too small, non athletic and soft to be doing well in today's NBA. Don't be cunning.

A40:
When a Bronsexual tells you Jordan's teams were "Stacked"

Whenever you post sh.it like this, I refer you back to this:

All NBA Teammates:

LeBron All NBA:
Wade 11
Wade 12
Wade 13
Irving 15

LeBron All Defense:
Varejao 11

Jordan All NBA:
Pippen 92
Pippen 93
Pippen 95
Pippen 96
Pippen 97
Pippen 98

Jordan All Defense:
Pippen 92
Pippen 93
Grant 93
Pippen 95
Pippen 96
Rodman 96
Pippen 97
Pippen 98

A40:
Are you a comedian or something? One of the all-time greats Kobe Bryant literally photocopied MJ's game and dominated an era.

Even Dirk's one legged fadeaway was a modification of MJ's move, your MCM LeNomad, Wade, Melo. Who was Kawhi's style of play most compared to this post season? Even the mental midget DeRozan. You must be joking surely! His mid-air switches are obviously harder to implement by players today but to suggest players didn't and aren't still copying the GOAT is pure clownspeak

What nonsense physical contact are you talking about? Anticipation, ability to jump passing lanes can also help you get steals. Jordan was also an elite shot blocker at his position so I don't even know what you're talking about.

Man, you make me laugh. Before Jordan there was Jerry West and Larry Bird. I can categorically tell you that Jordan learnt one or two things from those people

In the West in no order I'll put
LAC
LAL
DENVER
JAZZ
ROCKETS/GSW/BLAZERS will create a buzz especially in the playoffs.

steady986:

Whenever you post sh.it like this, I refer you back to this:

All NBA Teammates:

LeBron All NBA:
Wade 11
Wade 12
Wade 13
Irving 15

LeBron All Defense:
Varejao 11

Jordan All NBA:
Pippen 92
Pippen 93
Pippen 95
Pippen 96
Pippen 97
Pippen 98

Jordan All Defense:
Pippen 92
Pippen 93
Grant 93
Pippen 95
Pippen 96
Rodman 96
Pippen 97
Pippen 98

I don't have time for your useless stats that have no direct reflection on the actual series that was played.

steady986:

Man, you make me laugh. Before Jordan there was Jerry West and Larry Bird. I can categorically tell you that Jordan learnt one or two things from those people

You're a bonafide clown, I'm sure you also make yourself laugh which is a surefire sign of crazeman tendencies

What are the moves Jordan copied from Bird and West, list them categorically for Jordan like I did then when you're done explain what it has to do with my argument

steady986:

No, you made those comments about Curry and IT because you feel they are too small, non athletic and soft to be doing well in today's NBA. Don't be cunning.

Opolo eye e no be open eye. Clearly you must be a shigidi with eyes but cannot see.

Where is the lie? By virtue of how much bigger, stronger and faster players today are, such players should not be a factor in today's era. I said what I said.

Stop inundating me with mumu questions and borderline repeating what I said like a parakeet

A40:
Opolo eye e no be open eye. Clearly you must be a shigidi with eyes but cannot see.

Where is the lie? By virtue of how much bigger, stronger and faster players today are, such players should not be a factor in today's era. I said what I said.

Stop inundating me with mumu questions and borderline repeating what I said like a parakeet

You're just contradicting yourself. Issokay

I they wait

A40:
You're a bonafide clown, I'm sure you also make yourself laugh which is a surefire sign of crazeman tendencies

What are the moves Jordan copied from Bird and West, list them categorically for Jordan like I did then when you're done explain what it has to do with my argument

A40:
I don't have time for your useless stats that have no direct reflection on the actual series that was played.

That's your problem, you believe that being a great player is measured only by your ability to put the ball in the basket. Tell me how Harden did all that and still wasn't MVP.

A40:
You're a bonafide clown, I'm sure you also make yourself laugh which is a surefire sign of crazeman tendencies

What are the moves Jordan copied from Bird and West, list them categorically for Jordan like I did then when you're done explain what it has to do with my argument

And who told you that I agreed with you on today's players replicating Jordan's moves?

I don't have time for all this blatant ignorance from you. I'm very sure you didn't even watch Jordan play, so you're not even in the right position to argue with me about Jordan. And don't you mention YouTube for me.

Lol wow.

a40 constantly raves about Jordan defense lol.

steady986:

That's your problem, you believe that being a great player is measured only by your ability to put the ball in the basket. Tell me how Harden did all that and still wasn't MVP.

lmao

donlittle25:
Lol wow.

a40 constantly raves about Jordan defense lol.

He does, and also never sees the defensive contribution of his teammates as a worthy contribution and factor to his successes.

Lmao!!! This thread sha. We learn every the wrong things everyday.

You just said he does and in your last post made this same comment

you believe that being a great player is measured only by your ability to put the ball in the basket.

Lol which one is it? I am certain that is not true because he also raves about pippen defense.

steady986:

He does, and also never sees the defensive contribution of his teammates as a worthy contribution and factor to his successes.