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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 10:31pm On Jul 21, 2019
lilwetdick:


since he didnt cosign it, he is free but when they start filling tax together then he is in trouble

Sir, he won't not be in any trouble.
I have been filing joint taxes with my wife for 5 years now and she also has student loan debts.


Student loan debt is not a crime for heaven sake, it is what it is, a loan that is payable and you can reach an agreement on how much you can be paying on a monthly basis.

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Ugosample(m): 10:32pm On Jul 21, 2019
lereinter:
Very funny
Who told you you will be the one to pay, did she tell you to pay for her

Maybe your intention is to be collecting money from her
You know how we are in naija
we are always suspicious of everything
I won't blame him tho
He is a victim of his environment
I think the OP should tread carefully tho
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Ugosample(m): 10:38pm On Jul 21, 2019
Chicastle:
Bro, my advise, you are lucky if I may ask. white women are not like Nigeria slay queues. Let me tell you how they behave, for example if you invite the girl to come and see you in Naija, believe you me, she won't ask you if you have money to take care of her. She would put her money in her pocket. She would bring money for her accommodation and feeding. That's how they do. Talkess of asking you to come and pay $150k. Hmm lie you won't pay anything. Do you think she wants you to come and help her pay her dept? No! She is just looking for love. They are not like the oloshos here oo.. If you no wan go bro let me know MA get ready

these are harsh words to use on Nigerian women tho (remember your sister and mom )

The women in Nigeria are victims of their environment
You have to understand that

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Ugosample(m): 10:40pm On Jul 21, 2019
idonhammer:
Run for your life, she is not a woman. He is a fraudstar disguising as a American babe to scam you. Don't even think you have won a jackpot,no American woman will be interested in marrying a jobless Nigerian man in this 2019. Open your eyes, na scam.



it still happens tho

But most of the time the women who do that are somewhat older

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 10:41pm On Jul 21, 2019
byrron:


Sir, he is not in any trouble.
I have been filing joint taxes with my wife for 5 years now and she also has student loan debts.


Student loan debt is not a crime for heaven sake, it is what it is, a loan that is payable and you can reach an agreement on how much you can be paying on a monthly basis.

nobody said student loan was a crime, she is going to study further meaning that he could also be liable to pay for her student loan if he cosign it when they are married together, so she cant just take the loan without his permission, so it means he will be liable to pay this loan for the duration of the loans

also taking student loans during marriage when living in a community property state like Louisiana, Arizona, California, Texas, Washington, Idaho, Nevada, New Mexico, and Wisconsin he his also liable for her debt.

Community property states follow the rule that all assets acquired during the marriage are considered "community property."
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 10:41pm On Jul 21, 2019
Ugosample:


You know how we are in naija

we are always suspicious of everything

I won't blame him tho

He is a victim of his environment

I think the OP should tread carefully tho


The sad part of it all is when people that have zero knowledge or experiences on these issues goes about making categorical assertions that are false.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Ugosample(m): 10:46pm On Jul 21, 2019
byrron:


The sad part of it all is when people that have zero knowledge or experiences on these issues goes about making categorical assertions that are false.

that's true sha


I don't have much knowledge on that

That is why I have nothing to say but just to read

But as for the ridiculous comments in reading

it's surprising shocked
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 10:48pm On Jul 21, 2019
lilwetdick:


nobody said student loan was a crime, she is going to study further meaning that he could also be liable to pay for her student loan if he cosign it when they are married together, so she cant just take the loan without his permission, so it means he will be liable to pay this loan for the duration of the loans

also taking student loans during marriage when living in a community property state like Louisiana, Arizona, California, Texas, Washington, Idaho, Nevada, New Mexico, and Wisconsin he his also liable for her debt.

Community property states follow the rule that all assets acquired during the marriage are considered "community property."


Sir, not all student or those furthering their education leaves on community properties which is a new dimension you have added to the ongoing conversation.

Yes, each state has their own rules and those rules only applies when you are a habitual defaulter.

Paying an agreed monthly repayment for your student loan does not put anyone in jeopardy.

Remember, you only start paying back student loan once you are done with the program for which the loan was acquired.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by kroger: 10:56pm On Jul 21, 2019
Blastedholligan:
There's this sweet Akata I met on fb, we are getting along well and she's thinking we could spend our lives together. She's a single mother of one, older than me with one year and a medical assistant.

Now the problem is, she doesn't really earn too much and she has accumulated alot of loans that could amount to 50k dols and she wants to acquire another to study at the University for 4years, calculating all these could amount to like 150k dols and I've not even talked about my own cos I'll have to sponsor myself through school.

Another issue is that I don't think I'm really ready to settle down cos I really need to hustle and make money to help my family if I eventually travel before marrying and I intend on doing a course here in Nigeria for Digital Marketing to help me secure a nice job.

My problem now is, I'm scared of marrying someone who has acquired these loans cos Las Las na me go still follow pay wetin I no sabi.

Please, I need a clear guide on what I should do cos I don't wanna be selfish here with her by using her to get to the USA, I'm very willing to let go of her if I have very good reasons to.

Pardon my scattered words.


I wont advice my enemy Marry Akata.. If you eventually move to the US and marry her u will be responsible for paying all her igbese.. You will work your as.s off to make ends meet. My advice for you is once u got your Visa divert to another state.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by lincoln08541(m): 11:00pm On Jul 21, 2019
Nemesis0147:
she might be testing your love for her
..all this Yankee women ba
Exactly my thoughts,she want to known if you are not after her money
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 11:08pm On Jul 21, 2019
kroger:


I wont advice my enemy Marry Akata.. If you eventually move to the US and marry her u will be responsible for paying all her igbese.. You will work your as.s off to make ends meet. My advice for you is once u got your Visa divert to another state.

That's a generalization that is not backed up with facts, just like most foreigners sees all Nigerians as criminals which is also a foolish generalization.

My younger brother is married to an Akata that is Heading the HR department of her organization and my brother that just came here barely 3 years ago has gone all over the world courtesy of his akata wife compared to me that has been here before he came.

There are good and bad people everywhere my brother.


It is most preferable to marry the educated and enlightened one's amongst them though.

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 11:10pm On Jul 21, 2019
byrron:


Sir, not all student or those furthering their education leaves on community properties which is a new dimension you have added to the ongoing conversation.

Yes, each state has their own rules and those rules only applies when you are a habitual defaulter.

Paying an agreed monthly repayment for your student loan does not put anyone in jeopardy.

Remember, you only start paying back student loan once you are done with the program for which the loan was acquired.



are you trying to deny the facts that this student loans she has taken will not have an impact on the finances of the family, paying an agreed monthly repayment is still a minus on the income of the family, dont forget they also have mortgage to pay, rent to pay, feeding and the child school fees, this is some real expenses that can basically destroy the family finance and maybe the marriage, what she is looking for, is a man that can help her reduce the burden with his own cash, in a more logical way, that is a bad bargain for marriage, just because, i am not going to pay the loan doesnt mean, i wont support her in paying back the loan.

if he is going to marry her, we shouldnt forget he is a young immigrant and his pay wont be that much,meaning their household income will be less, so lot of financial troubles on the way.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by kroger: 11:18pm On Jul 21, 2019
byrron:


That's a generalization that is not backed up with facts, just like most foreigners sees all Nigerians as criminals which is also a foolish generalization.

My younger brother is married to an Akata that is Heading the HR department of her organization and my brother that just came here barely 3 years ago has gone all over the world courtesy of his akata wife compared to me that has been here before he came.

There are good and bad people everywhere my brother.


It is most preferable to marry the educated and enlightened one's amongst them though.

I was refering to the OP particular situation.. The said lady is a medical assistant earning Approximately $15 to $18 an hour, with a kid and debts. I have witnessed scenarios like this, she will so depend on the guy financially. Your brother is a lucky man cos ita rare to find the educated and more financially stable ones.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 11:28pm On Jul 21, 2019
lilwetdick:


are you trying to deny the facts that this student loans she has taken will not have an impact on the finances of the family, paying an agreed monthly repayment is still a minus on the income of the family, dont forget they also have mortgage to pay, rent to pay, feeding and the child school fees, this is some real expenses that can basically destroy the family finance and maybe the marriage, what she is looking for, is a man that can help her reduce the burden with his own cash, in a more logical way, that is a bad bargain for marriage, just because, i am not going to pay the loan doesnt mean, i wont support her in paying back the loan.

if he is going to marry her, we shouldnt forget he is a young immigrant and his pay wont be that much,meaning their household income will be less, so lot of financial troubles on the way.

Let's not digress by creating imaginary scenarios.
Advising the young man not marry someone simple because the person has a student loan debt is so cynical and that is my whole point.

Marriage is not a scholarship where you abdicate your responsibilities nor a place where you won't shoulder any responsibility.

Once you are married, it is no longer all about you but about the family. He shouldn't even bother himself with a student loan that is not his because he will be actively involved in paying part of the monthly house rent, utility Bill's, providing for family needs or will he be immuned to that too?

In conclusion, marriage is a partnership and if you don't see it from that perspective then you have no business getting married.

If they eventually get married, their are turns of financial obligations that will show up that will definitely be a drain on the family's income and not just student loan of which has nothing to do with him but other family financial responsibilities will definitely be obligatory on him and he can't run away from it.

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 11:41pm On Jul 21, 2019
byrron:


Let's not digress by creating imaginary scenarios.
Advising the young man not marry someone simple because the person has a student loan debt is so cynical and that is my whole point.

Marriage is not a scholarship where you abdicate your responsibilities nor a place where you won't shoulder any responsibility.

Once you are married, it is no longer all about you but about the family. He shouldn't even bother himself with a student loan that is not his because he will be actively involved in paying part of the monthly house rent, utility Bill's, providing for family needs or will he be immuned to that too?

In conclusion, marriage is a partnership and if you don't see it from that perspective then you have no business getting married.

If they eventually get married, their are turns of financial obligations that will show up that will definitely be a drain on the family's income and not just student loan of which has nothing to do with him but other family financial responsibilities will definitely be obligatory on him and he can't run away from it.

i am not creating any scenarios but that is the reality of life. marriage starting off on paying off debt is the route to poverty.

i personally wont marry a woman with that much debt, are you going to deny the facts that there are women looking for rich men to marry to reduce or pay off their student loans.

also how do i try to keep my own financial obligations when i have to support debts i was never involved in the first place,

anyway, everyman for himself, whatever the op want is his choice but i forsee lot of problems financially in that marriage

the only reason she opened up about her loan is because she believes she is doing a favour for the man in respect to bringing him to america and filling up papers for him, all because of the stereotype that Nigerian men are hard working, it is a trap for the man, he is going to work his life to death and nothing to show in his bank account all because of her self-fish interest.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Kristokx(m): 11:50pm On Jul 21, 2019
Iogobenz:
cheesy
This one never still know whatsup.
You never even reach America you don dey behave like white already.
Don't travel and help your family you hear?stay here dey ask annoying questions.
There are 2 things you can do;
-propose a business to her in oil and gas that has very high yield that she will use to clear her debts and sponsor her education,collect like $30k from her and kupu cool
Or
-travel to meet her jejely,manage whichever attitude she give you till you fix your immigration status and get small bread of your own,then you bounce.
Don't impregnate her o before child support kill you!
My guy use your upper
Sharp guy sharp guy you no fit even Reason person dey tell you say the babe they owe you still dey talk of her giving him $30k you think say na 30 thousand naira?
In my opinion I think you should follow your heart also make sure that’s what you really want want like if you see another babe over there will you leave her ?
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by dallenk(m): 11:52pm On Jul 21, 2019
Point of correction. Akata is not oyinbo. (2) Mr OP, don't go enslave your self. Be careful of greediness. Marying Akata will open you to what you won't expect... Me personally, Instead of me to marry Akata I will rather marry Nija women.. Anything that makes me wants to marry foreigner she must be pure white... Oyinbo... No negotiation on my decision. Thank you honourable speaker... lol
RDPMAN:
You think oyinbo women are like the black woman, she doesn't need you to pay her loan, how much do you have, after her course she will get a better paid job and the loan will be removed in her salary ... Common, leave the fucking country.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 12:00am On Jul 22, 2019
cheeseballs:
bros i dont get it. She wants you to impregnate her before anything? What are you waiting for, abi she ugly?
she is so beautiful. I go really crazy about how she even likes me. Her accent no be here ooo. She clearly told me she want me to get the blue card. No be say i dey reason am. Na she even want me make i get the card. And i Love her too.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 12:01am On Jul 22, 2019
lilwetdick:


i am not creating any scenarios but that is the reality of life. [s]marriage starting off on paying off debt is the route to poverty.[/s]

This is blatant falsehood and you keep spewing it.

i personally wont marry a woman with that much debt, are you going to deny the facts that there are women looking for rich men to marry to reduce or pay off their student loans.

This is hypothetical and that is not the subject in discuss.


also how do i try to keep my own financial obligations when i have to support debts i was never involved in the first place.

Once you are married, it becomes obligatory to provide for your family not just about you.

anyway, everyman for himself, whatever the op want is his choice but i forsee lot of problems financially in that marriage.

Sure, everyman for himself and there are no one cap fits all solution.


the only reason she opened up about her loan is because she believes she is doing a favour for the man in respect to bringing him to america and filling up papers for him, all because of the stereotype that Nigerian men are hard working, it is a trap for the man, he is going to work his life to death and nothing to show in his bank account all because of her self-fish interest.

Your opinion but definitely not the reason since you weren't a part of their ongoing conversations which could have led to her talking about it except if you are now possessed with powers to read the minds of people

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 12:06am On Jul 22, 2019
kroger:


I was refering to the OP particular situation.. The said lady is a medical assistant earning Approximately $15 to $18 an hour, with a kid and debts. I have witnessed scenarios like this, she will so depend on the guy financially. Your brother is a lucky man cos ita rare to find the educated and more financially stable ones.

Do you realize the fact that this guy will be jobless for a while and will be housed and fed by this same lady in question pending on when he gets a job?

She is paying her Bill's and catering for needs and that of her child even when she is not yet married to our NL brother so are you now saying one's they get married then she will suddenly stop working and become a full blown housewife while transferring all the family financial obligations to a JJC that just landed?

Hell no.

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by BarrElChapo(m): 12:18am On Jul 22, 2019
lol. thank you for this perspective. i guess I'd have to do some more research on this.
lilwetdick:


before you read with joy

Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 12:19am On Jul 22, 2019
byrron:

it is not falsehood but reality, taking debt is infact the pathway to poverty(the borrower is the slave of the lender) or are you denying the facts that many families the US live from pay check to pay check because of the monthly debt obligations they have to meet.

yes once i marry, it is my obligation to take care of my family not paying off debt to make myself poor

nobody is possessed with the power of mind reading but a person present financial decision and choice can give us a future financial analysis of where the person will be in 5-10 years and funny enough it is 80% always correct.

off i go.

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by kroger: 12:22am On Jul 22, 2019
byrron:


Do you realize the fact that this guy will be jobless for a while and will be housed and fed by this same lady in question pending on when he gets a job?

She is paying her Bill's and catering for needs and that of her child even when she is not yet married to our NL brother so are you now saying one's they get married then she will suddenly stop working and become a full blown housewife while transferring all the family financial obligations to a JJC that just landed?

Hell no.

Hell yeah.. She will cater for him till he settles down and get a job, once he gets a job gradually she becomes dependent on him. Bro I have been there done that I know how these akata behave. A good friend of mine is in this dilemma..

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 12:41am On Jul 22, 2019
Na come and marry abi na wetin be this?

Which one be internet marketing inside this mattter, abeg enter Yankee go hustle na bitcoin investor you go turn to last lastgrin
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Ugosample(m): 12:45am On Jul 22, 2019
byrron:


That's a generalization that is not backed up with facts, just like most foreigners sees all Nigerians as criminals which is also a foolish generalization.

My younger brother is married to an Akata that is Heading the HR department of her organization and my brother that just came here barely 3 years ago has gone all over the world courtesy of his akata wife compared to me that has been here before he came.

There are good and bad people everywhere my brother.


It is most preferable to marry the educated and enlightened one's amongst them though.

yesso

you marry ratchet one

you suffer for it
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 12:47am On Jul 22, 2019
kroger:


Hell yeah.. She will cater for him till he settles down and get a job, once he gets a job gradually she becomes dependent on him. Bro I have been there done that I know how these akata behave. A good friend of mine is in this dilemma..

I'm not holding brief for akata and I'm sorry for your experiences but generalization is the issue here.

This attitude is more pronounced when dealing with some of the ones amongst them that feels so entitled but definitely not all of them of which my younger brothers wife is a case study I will always make reference to and the ones that are my colleagues that are married to some Nigerians I know off.

There are exceptions to every situation which is why we can't just generalize simple because of our personal experiences or that of others.

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Nobody: 12:49am On Jul 22, 2019
Ugosample:


yesso

you marry ratchet one

you suffer for it

That's exactly my point.[i][/i]

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Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by kroger: 1:18am On Jul 22, 2019
byrron:


I'm not holding brief for akata and I'm sorry for your experiences but generalization is the issue here.

This attitude is more pronounced when dealing with some of the ones amongst them that feels so entitled but definitely not all of them of which my younger brothers wife is a case study I will always make reference to and the ones that are my colleagues that are married to some Nigerians I know off.

There are exceptions to every situation which is why we can't just generalize simple because of our personal experiences or that of others.


I perfectly understand your submission, if you look at the percentage of the self entitled ones its far more than the well stable akata.. I have been opportuned to meet some very responsible ones of which we had a great relationship but personally I cant get married to an akata, Responsible ones or not.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by kroger: 1:20am On Jul 22, 2019
Ugosample:


yesso

you marry ratchet one

you suffer for it

Better suffer oo. If you by mistake get them pregnant you are oyo
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by premiumswizz: 8:15am On Jul 22, 2019
Someone pls. Remind us all about the Yoruba adage of the, Hunter's dog not hearing the Hunter's whistle. grin
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Tallyglobal(m): 8:54am On Jul 22, 2019
My Bro,
Before u reach their try to play along and explain to her that u collect serious loan before u leave home and they may hook up with ur guarantor.
If reported with default of paying the money it will be serious on u. Keep explaining before u leaving and call very huge amount to her, because they are bastardy over their.
Keep low-key and associates with people that can help Cos she maybe ur stepping stone.
Re: Should I Still Travel To The USA? by Lawalemi(m): 8:54am On Jul 22, 2019
Offpoint:
Some advice people seek online makes me wonder what happens to natural sense...


Let me know who you voted for in the last presidential election, that's the only way I'll know the kinda advice I'll offer.

My brother, I taya!

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