CAPSLOCKED:


LOL. CALM YOUR TEMPER BROS.

In the US, look at what their men are facing because they couldn't put their women in their place. Divorce laws, Alimony laws, too much money than necessary in child support, believing women without evidence and convicting men of rape, women serve lower times in jail, and other gynocentric laws and privileges, feminism, #metoo etc.

Do you know that in divorce courts in the US, you wife has automatic custody of the kids? Women are believed without evidence during divorce proceedings if they claim you are an abusive father and husband and you sexually molested your kid? As I have said, the greatest mistake men made was thinking that women are their equals in intellect, morality and virtues. Many men are still making that mistake hence they are surprised when their "perfect" wife and girlfriends misbehaves during hard times. For this same reason, many men are deeply surprised when that girl, girlfriend or female friend accuses them of rape.

In the US, when they compared women's vote to men's votes, they found out that if women's vote determined the results, the US will be in trouble. Most women want the welfare state (the very thing that has destroyed black Americans), socialism, abortion (even killing a baby at 9 months. Talk about nurturing), open borders, reparations etc.

It is also known in the US that an all female company will collapse. Show me one all female top company headed by women from CEO to staff that is standing. If men can't be strong, they will suffer.

My father isn't deadbeat but my parents arent together so this thread is very relatable

lol I see all of Nairaland's finest and brightest have come out to play. So why were you guys pretending to be objective 3-4 pages ago? What was the kerfuffle about? It's good that you guys have dropped all pretense at any objectivity and we can now all see you guys in your misogynistic glory. The last shred of sanity just exited the thread, you guys can keep playing with each other's dicks.

JONNYSPUTE:
.. Lol. My brother,that's how I do. I buy them stuffs and tell them is from daddy. I don't want to hear stories tomorrow.

Very good. Let them know you are involved. Back in the days, each time my uncle wanted to pay his children's school fees, he would call his wife and children in the sitting room with the bundle of cash on the table. He would tell them that he has provided money for their school fees and is about to pay and he will say "what do you have to say?" and the children will say "thank you" and he will proceed to hug them and tell them nice things. I thought it was unnecessary, weird, and a show off but now I know better.

CAPSLOCKED:



WOW. THIS MEANS THAT SINCE I WAS BORN, ALL THE FATHERS IN THE HISTORY OF FATHERHOOD ARE FAILED MEN.. BEING THAT IN ALMOST EVERY FAMILY THE CHILD IS CLOSER TO THE MOTHER THAN THE DAD.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE WOMEN ARE LOVELY WHILE MEN ARE HARSH.
IT'S BECAUSE WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE NOT TOO DIFFERENT. THEY OPERATE ALMOST AT THE SAME FREQUENCY SO IT'S NOT DIFFICULT FOR THE TWO TO GET ALONG. THEY ALSO REASON SIMILARLY.

MEN ARE FAILURES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE AS BUSY AS POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THEIR FAMILIES ARE COMFORTABLE. LOL.

One of the machismo chauvinistic sexist I talked about, now women reason like a child, same as your mother I presume, what a degradation, for someone that birth you, now, going by your silly submission, when the said child/children becomes an adult, and the said adult still didn't reach out to his said "deadbeat" dad to hear his side, what do we call the adult, since he is no more a child?

CAPSLOCKED, JONNYSPUTE, Regiomontanus and the rest have shown that men are beginning to wake up. People must start asking questions.

Regiomontanus:
I have been monitoring both MariaLavina and Martinez39. Martinez39 has refused to answer her. I doubt if Martinez39 will waste his time to answer her.

Indeed I have no time for her. I won't stoop so low. There is a level below which someone's IQ would fall that I can't be bothered to acknowledge their existence.

#GLYCOLYSISS

1Sharon:
My father isn't deadbeat but my parents arent together so this thread is very relatable

Eyah. Have you connected with your dad?

Reason why I decided to say my two lines sentence at first page cos I know this thread will turn to whining of the male gender just to suit their degrading, dwindling ego,

But the fact still remains that a deadbeat dad is RIGHTLY a deadbeat because he chooses to be so, if he is really the head of the house, he would exercise that notion well, cos I don't see how an adult male will be deprived of being part of his children's lives, if he is deprived of calls, he should look for their school and visit them during breaks, churches, whatever means necessary, not sitting down blaming the "weaker vessel" as they call us lol, who really is the "weaker vessel" in this case? Very laughable

Fountainofyouth:
Reason why I decided to say my two lines sentence at first page cos I know this thread will turn to whining of the male gender just to suit their degrading, dwindling ego,

But the fact still remains that a deadbeat dad is RIGHTLY a deadbeat because he chooses to be so, if he is really the head of the house, he would exercise that notion well, cos I don't see how an adult male will be deprived of being part of his children's lives, if he is deprived of calls, he should look for their school and visit them during breaks, churches, whatever means necessary, not sitting down blaming the "weaker vessel" as they call us lol, who really is the "weaker vessel" in this case? Very laughable

Wow! So now, a man is the head of the house? So you admit despite you feminists calling the notion of a man being the head of the house misogynistic and patriarchal. Lol. Typical woman, always employing any narrative that is suitable.

CAPSLOCKED, JONNYSPUTE, Regiomontanus

hopefulLandlord:
You asked for a logical counter so I'd bite


This started playing off on the wrong foot as you've generalised.

There are women that paint men bad. there are women that would conjur nonexistent misconducts, claim the father did it to their children then repeat it again and again from time to time till the child believes it. Do women like this exist? if your answer is yes then you have to admit your starting statement is wrong. OP didn't generalise. he spoke about such women alone.

Nobody is a saint. we all have our flaws and insecurities. we fall short in certain good qualities and excel in some bad ones. if the only way a man can fall short of being "deadbeat dad" is being perfect then you would be correct in labelling all father's deadbeat. I want to believe you're much lore intelligent than that

@bolded You shot yourself here Madam those "Other Times" is what OP is referring to and the bolded shows you didn't take your time to read and/or understand the OP before rushing to reply. an understandable mistake but a horrible one

I do not know if the first part is true but you seem not to know how brainwashing affects a child. there's a reason statistics show children usually take up the religion of their parents and die as one. Humans tend to build trust for certain people especially people who are close to them so a child who's mother keeps talking about how bad his father is would start believing it, if he believes it strongly enough then any act of benevolence from the father would be interpreted by such a child to be the father pretending to care. many Humans tend to believe first then search for evidence that fits those belief while discarding those that don't. This is how propaganda works on the human brain
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/dont-believe-lies-just-people-repeat/

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20161026-how-liars-create-the-illusion-of-truth



There are instances where the woman makes it very hard/impossible for the man to bond with the child. take a look at this story by starboytwo www.nairaland.com/post/82020500


this again showed you didn't take your time to read OP


Starboytwo's story disagrees

Long time Mr. Landlord. Nothing you say will change her mind.

Martinez39:
Long time Mr. Landlord. Nothing you say will change her mind.

Longest time bro.

Fountainofyouth:
Reason why I decided to say my two lines sentence at first page cos I know this thread will turn to whining of the male gender just to suit their degrading, dwindling ego,

But the fact still remains that a deadbeat dad is RIGHTLY a deadbeat because he chooses to be so, if he is really the head of the house, he would exercise that notion well, cos I don't see how an adult male will be deprived of being part of his children's lives, if he is deprived of calls, he should look for their school and visit them during breaks, churches, whatever means necessary, not sitting down blaming the "weaker vessel" as they call us lol, who really is the "weaker vessel" in this case? Very laughable

One thing I strongly like about the OP is his putting Deadbeat in quotes

Martinez39:
Very good. Let them know you are involved. Back in the days, each time my uncle wanted to pay his children's school fees, he would call his wife and children in the sitting room with the bundle of cash on the table. He would tell them that he has provided money for their school fees and is about to pay and he will say "what do you have to say?" and the children will say "thank you" and he will proceed to hug them and tell them nice things. I thought it was unnecessary, weird, and a show off but now I know better.

.. You ve just taught me another method.Wonderful topic bro.Stay blessed.

JONNYSPUTE:
. Hahahahahahaaaaaah.These women won't kill us. My wife just called now and informed me that school is resuming tomorrow and that I should send her money for the tuition, I simply told her I ve transfered the money to the school already,she was like OK oooo. We need to step up our games bro.Before she starts telling the kids I'm a useless man,always travelling. Lol

It is really surprising of you, a married man, to take the words of wondering minds here, and use that as a standpoint for how to relate and regard your wife, word of advice: do not let schmucks still questioning their sanity as humans be a yardstick on how to run your family, what may work for A may not work for B.

Martinez39:
Eyah. Have you connected with your dad?

Lol we have always been in contact. My dad never distanced himself from us kids. Me especially as the only girl and 1st child

My mum hates me in particular because she feels I'm on his side and just like him as african mothers like to say

1Sharon:



Lol we have always been in contact. My dad never distanced himself from us kids. Me especially as the only girl and 1st child

My mum hates me in particular because she feels I'm on his side and just like him as african mothers like to say

Hurray!!! Don't mind her jare. As long as you love both them duly, keep loving your father. That love must not be one sided. To separate you from your father, Kole werk. #JealousyNoGoWork

Fountainofyouth:



It is really surprising of you, a married man, to take the words of wondering minds here, and use that as a standpoint for how to relate and regard your wife, word of advice: do not let schmucks still questioning their sanity as humans be a yardstick on how to run your family, what may work for A may not work for B.

. Sis, even before this topic came up,I know and understand that shits like this happens.That's the reason I spend so much time with my kids whenever I'm around.Right know I'm so happy that whenever I travel,my kids misses me alot.and once I get home,they cling to me,sleep in my bedroom and eat with me.Men should start waking up to realities to avoid stories that touch.

Martinez39:
Wow! So now, a man is the head of the house? So you admit despite you feminists calling the notion of a man being the head of the house misogynistic and patriarchal. Lol. Typical woman, always employing any narrative that is suitable.

CAPSLOCKED, JONNYSPUTE, Regiomontanus

. They can deny it for all I care,but the truth will always remain the truth.

Martinez39:
Hurray!!! Don't mind her jare. As long as you love both them duly, keep loving your father. That love must not be one sided. To separate you from your father, Kole werk. #JealousyNoGoWork

Lool.. you no well

CAPSLOCKED:



EVERY THREAD DISCUSSING THE EVILS OF MEN.. IS A GOOD MOVE TO SET THE SOCIETY RIGHT.
ANY THREAD ABOUT THE EVILS OF WOMEN SUDDENLY BECOME ABOUT WOMEN HATING, WOMEN BASHING, ALPHA MALES, STORIES UPON STORIES.

YOUR QUADRUPLE STANDARD IS ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THESE THREADS. MANY YOUNG BOYS HAVE TO WAKE UP AND GROW UP TO AVOID SUCH EVIL MANIPULATIONS.

What quadruple standard?

Regiomontanus:
In the US, look at what their men are facing because they couldn't put their women in their place. Divorce laws, Alimony laws, too much money than necessary in child support, believing women without evidence and convicting men of rape, women serve lower times in jail, and other gynocentric laws and privileges, feminism, #metoo etc.

Do you know that in divorce courts in the US, you wife has automatic custody of the kids? Women are believed without evidence during divorce proceedings if they claim you are an abusive father and husband and you sexually molested your kid? As I have said, the greatest mistake men made was thinking that women are their equals in intellect, morality and virtues. Many men are still making that mistake hence they are surprised when their "perfect" wife and girlfriends misbehaves during hard times. For this same reason, many men are deeply surprised when that girl, girlfriend or female friend accuses them of rape.

In the US, when they compared women's vote to men's votes, they found out that if women's vote determined the results, the US will be in trouble. Most women want the welfare state (the very thing that has destroyed black Americans), socialism, abortion (even killing a baby at 9 months. Talk about nurturing), open borders, reparations etc.

It is also known in the US that an all female company will collapse. Show me one all female top company headed by women from CEO to staff that is standing. If men can't be strong, they will suffer.

LOL, it is paining you so much that women have rights in the US, that you refuse to educate yourself on the rights of fathers.

Fathers have rights in the US courts too. A father has enforceable visitation and custody rights to his child. A woman can go to prison for keeping a child away from their father.

But a judge is not going to come to your house to help you get your rights. It is up to the father to make out time to visit his kids and plan activities with them. It is up to the father to go to court to apply for joint custody. It is your responsibility as a father to participate in your children’s life.

Martinez39:
I said Ubunja's input is needed. Nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't have to agree with me for his input to be needed. His input is needed because he is a wise and experienced guy not because he agrees with me. This is the last time I will respond to you. The bullcrap from you is too much.

If you consider ubunja's brand of psychosis 'wisdom', then I pray that God open your eyes to what wisdom truly is

ImaIma1:


What quadruple standard?

Come, are you smart, observant and exposed?

Regiomontanus:
Our forefathers knew about the emotional, egoistic, manipulative, deceptive and destructive power of women that's why they introduced the patriarchy. The patriarchy not only only put women in check but made society safe. Unfortunately, feminists, beta historians, Hollywood and the rest told us that our forefathers were misogynists.

The reason why women were not allowed to vote was because our forefathers knew that women are too emotional and could not make the sound logical decision especially when it didn't fit them. It was not that they hated women. Imagine if a socialist politician comes to Nigeria and gives women free stuff regularly and promises them more, who do you think women will vote for? Even if you try to explain why capitalism is better and why socialism is disastrous, they will not listen? The greatest mistake men made was to think that women are their equals intellectually and morally. Women can be moral and intelligent but not on the level of men.

Men are currently suffering from the plague called feminism. In the West, it's feminism and the gynocentric laws. This happened because men were brought up to put women on the pedestal and believe in the thing called "love". Men are worshipping women as women are manipulating the hell out of them.

Going by this motion, let's say you're right, what of in this era where everyone, men and women, are allowed to vote, and most men, for example, most northern MEN, are always brainwashed to vote based on free stuffs and more promises cos they are emotional, without using their intellect and logical reasoning, what should we call them since they are men like you? Don't bother arguing based on education cos our forefathers were not remotely educated, so reason based on that since you are intellectual and logical, fvcking sexist,

It's very sweet to talk down on the oposite gender to boost ego, but when thrown one for your gender, y"all become mute, like your hands becomes dead to typing, same as your brain,

Now, intellectual and logical reasoning knows no gender, colour, or race, some persons own will always be higher than another, I hope your tiny brain digest and understands that.

elektra:


LOL, it is paining you so much that women have rights in the US, that you refuse to educate yourself on the rights of fathers.

Fathers have rights in the US courts too. A father has enforceable visitation and custody rights to his child. A woman can go to prison for keeping a child away from their father.

But a judge is not going to come to your house to help you get your rights. It is up to the father to make out time to visit his kids and plan activities with them. It is up to the father to go to court to apply for joint custody. It is your responsibility as a father to participate in your children’s life.

Keep spreading lies and misrepresentating facts. Those that live in the US know better, I don't have your time. Ever wondered why the MGTOW movement started in western developed countries not Islamic or African countries? What is saving Nigerian men is that 99.99% of our top politicians are men and they are tenaciously holding on to power. Also our police force and judicial system are not too rapid and effective. If not, all the beta boys in Nigeria who are still putting girls on the pedestal will see red.

fyneboi79:
Very good topic here. It took me more than 35 years to realize what my mother did to me concerning my dad. I hated and abandoned the man. Now all I can do to say sorry is to beautify his graveside.

Oh dear.

Martinez39:
Wow! So now, a man is the head of the house? So you admit despite you feminists calling the notion of a man being the head of the house misogynistic and patriarchal. Lol. Typical woman, always employing any narrative that is suitable.

CAPSLOCKED, JONNYSPUTE, Regiomontanus

I would like you to quote where I ever argued that notion to the 't', and if not, counter my comment logically, but if I should think like you, or should I say, what you assume I ever said, should we now say the wife is the head and controls the home since she can automatically pronounce her husband a deadbeat dad while the husband whine about it without proving his children wrong till he dies? Cos it's still the same circle......

Martinez39:
Keep spreading lies and misrepresentating facts. Those that live in the US know better, I don't have your time. Ever wondered why the MGTOW movement started in western developed countries not Islamic or African countries? What is saving Nigerian men is that 99.99% of our top politicians are men and they tenaciously holding on to power. If not, all the beta boys in Nigeria who are still putting girls on the pedestal will see red.

For a "great smart thinker" to say the U.S court only favours women is surprisingly laughable, this is how you know minds that are not exposed far and wide, very shameful, Most politicians in U.S are men, I presume they are also "beta" right?

Regiomontanus:
In the US, look at what their men are facing because they couldn't put their women in their place. Divorce laws, Alimony laws, too much money than necessary in child support, believing women without evidence and convicting men of rape, women serve lower times in jail, and other gynocentric laws and privileges, feminism, #metoo etc.

Do you know that in divorce courts in the US, you wife has automatic custody of the kids? Women are believed without evidence during divorce proceedings if they claim you are an abusive father and husband and you sexually molested your kid? As I have said, the greatest mistake men made was thinking that women are their equals in intellect, morality and virtues. Many men are still making that mistake hence they are surprised when their "perfect" wife and girlfriends misbehaves during hard times. For this same reason, many men are deeply surprised when that girl, girlfriend or female friend accuses them of rape.

In the US, when they compared women's vote to men's votes, they found out that if women's vote determined the results, the US will be in trouble. Most women want the welfare state (the very thing that has destroyed black Americans), socialism, abortion (even killing a baby at 9 months. Talk about nurturing), open borders, reparations etc.

It is also known in the US that an all female company will collapse. Show me one all female top company headed by women from CEO to staff that is standing. If men can't be strong, they will suffer.

Not an ounce of sympathy for those simps over there in the US and the west in general. Motherfukkers handed their balls to their women and now even dogs and cats have more rights than them. They should live with it.

Fountainofyouth:



I would like you to quote where I ever argued that notion to the 't', and if not, counter my comment logically, but if I should think like you, or should I say, what you assume I ever said, should we now say the wife is the head and controls the home since she can automatically pronounce her husband a deadbeat dad while the husband whine about it without proving his children wrong till he dies? Cos it's still the same circle......

I don't have your time. You typed "if he is really the head of the house..." why else would you say that? If you really thought both couples are in charge, you would not have typed that. You are just deceiving yourself. Boys are waking up.

Given the display of your underdeveloped brain,

Fountainofyouth:



For a "great smart thinker" to say the U.S court only favours women is surprisingly laughable, this is how you know minds that are not exposed far and wide, very shameful, Most politicians in U.S are men, I presume they are also "beta" right?

Our politicians are patriarchal unlike the beta simps in the US. Trump, the great white hope, is one of the few alphas in the US. Good day.