₦airaland Forum

emmaodet:
Which behavior? Leeching? Or parasitic?
Does it make any difference?
To me, i don't see any difference between a rich, average and broke ladies.
Infact, the rich and average ladies only raises there bars to screen of poor and broke guys.
Kini afani orogbo ta je, to koro ta tun pa tiko lawe.
What is the essence of a bitter kola that we chew and very bitter, yet opened up and still without seeds

franchasng:
I can swear with anything you want, I have done so much for so many ladies who aren't my relative; have helped some travel out, get job, start a business, paid house rent, bought uncountable phones , bought a car of course to one and only one person.....and I have met lots of the so called ladies that can be classified as financially successful, working in top firms, yet they expect you to do everything for them......the truth is, 99% of Nigerian ladies are stingy!!

bluefilm:
In her tiny, senseless and worthless mind, frankly speaking, I don't think the idea that she can actually offer a nigga anything else valuable to him...apart from her borehole, has actually crossed her mind.

Riele:
Never dated .

sharp guy that babe nah runs girl nah

nellyelitz:
...marketers everywhere you go!!

maak400:
I’m also a fan of pansophist, he has a way of articulating words beyond ordinary. He’s actually the only person I’m following on nairaland, I love to read his intelligence laden comments. I hope to meet him physically someday though, it will be great to rub minds with him.

franchasng:
This same thing is the reason most ladies are single and ignore their potential partners online.


The mentality of Nigerian ladies is like this: so long as you are not a popular figure with verified account posting pictures of your luxury cars, luxury apartments, luxury vacations, etc, then you are broke, if you dare DM them, you will be ignored as broke guy looking for free pussy online, and with this wack mentality most of them missed their God sent partners while wasting time following entertainment celebrities with verified accounts and be messaging them and commenting on their timelines hoping they notice them one day whereas better guys are on their DM but to them, those ones are rifraffs, that's the mentality of 9.99% of Nigerian ladies of our time, e concern me

pansophist:
In economist, this is known as the Pareto principle or the 20/80 rule

80% of girls go for the top 20% of guys, while the other 80% guys are left struggling with the left over 20% girls. And most importantly, the 20% of girls
are the former occupants of the previous 80%, but luck didn't catch up with them, they are losing their fertility and youthfulness, and hitting the middle life crisis, locally known in Nigeria as Shiloh mode , but by then, men didn't want them anymore, since our biological imperative is geared towards fertility and youthfulness.

No man wants to be the landing spot of returnees who have ridden the c.ock carousel and seen more p.enis than a urologist. We want the fun too, with our woman, a youthful woman, not otherwise, not more, not less. no man that worked so hard to create a perfect life for himself, will want to finally become an enabler to a woman who wants a beta male to call hers, with the highest level of comfort she can find after enjoying the proceedings of her youthfulness with bad boys. Glad to see discussions like these are getting common here, our Mumu don do.

truthsayer009:
See ehn, i understand you but you need to reason with me that we also have Sisters who are leeching (or have leached) men in the past, no one is really exempted from this. The real problem we have here is cultural & the foundations are hard to break.

A lot of young Western women have been working in coffee shops, cafeteria since 15, 16, 17 etc earning money & taking their life in their own hands meanwhile in Nigeria, parents prepare their female children for marriage & tell the male to keep working hard to provide for the family. Till today, Nigerian parents are still greedy & give a wealthy son-in-law preferential treatment.

We need to empower women to work so a new culture can transcend into unborn female children. At the end of the day, we cannot do without women even after they leech on us. So why not work in making sure our unborn Males get to meet best version of Nigerian females yet to be born.

BetWinners:
No doubt about it.The guy is good but there is no greater monicker on nairaland than the intellectual juggernaut called SAGAMITE
Try and marinate over his posts

Martinez39:
Forget that thing. In Western societies, men are still burdened with the responsibility of providing. If you think oyibo girls don't do "my money is my money, your money is our money" then you are naive. Don't let their feminism fool you, the feminists over there are still hypocrites and are a breed of mephistophelean proportion. When it comes to toxicity, Nigerian feminists are still learners compared to their western counterparts. Different regions, same sh!t. Over there, the gynocentrism, fleecing of men (in divorce courts, child support and alimony) and unaccountabilty for women are even backed by the government.

pansophist:
In economist, this is known as the Pareto principle or the 20/80 rule

80% of girls go for the top 20% of guys, while the other 80% guys are left struggling with the left over 20% girls. And most importantly, the 20% of girls
are the former occupants of the previous 80%, but luck didn't catch up with them, they are losing their fertility and youthfulness, and hitting the middle life crisis, locally known in Nigeria as Shiloh mode , but by then, men didn't want them anymore, since our biological imperative is geared towards fertility and youthfulness.

No man wants to be the landing spot of returnees who have ridden the c.ock carousel and seen more p.enis than a urologist. We want the fun too, with our woman, a youthful woman, not otherwise, not more, not less. no man that worked so hard to create a perfect life for himself, will want to finally become an enabler to a woman who wants a beta male to call hers, with the highest level of comfort she can find after enjoying the proceedings of her youthfulness with bad boys. Glad to see discussions like these are getting common here, our Mumu don do.

pansophist:
In economist, this is known as the Pareto principle or the 20/80 rule

80% of girls go for the top 20% of guys, while the other 80% guys are left struggling with the left over 20% girls. And most importantly, the 20% of girls
are the former occupants of the previous 80%, but luck didn't catch up with them, they are losing their fertility and youthfulness, and hitting the middle life crisis, locally known in Nigeria as Shiloh mode , but by then, men didn't want them anymore, since our biological imperative is geared towards fertility and youthfulness.

No man wants to be the landing spot of returnees who have ridden the c.ock carousel and seen more p.enis than a urologist. We want the fun too, with our woman, a youthful woman, not otherwise, not more, not less. no man that worked so hard to create a perfect life for himself, will want to finally become an enabler to a woman who wants a beta male to call hers, with the highest level of comfort she can find after enjoying the proceedings of her youthfulness with bad boys. Glad to see discussions like these are getting common here, our Mumu don do.

franchasng:
This same thing is the reason most ladies are single and ignore their potential partners online.


The mentality of Nigerian ladies is like this: so long as you are not a popular figure with verified account posting pictures of your luxury cars, luxury apartments, luxury vacations, etc, then you are broke, if you dare DM them, you will be ignored as broke guy looking for free pussy online, and with this wack mentality most of them missed their God sent partners while wasting time following entertainment celebrities with verified accounts and be messaging them and commenting on their timelines hoping they notice them one day whereas better guys are on their DM but to them, those ones are rifraffs, that's the mentality of 9.99% of Nigerian ladies of our time, e concern me

truthsayer009:
Okay, so what you said is very true buy you have forgotten one vital part. Making your own money is different from spending your own money. I know some good women who do but honestly they are few.

The problem is not really the money but the mentality that a Man owes you A B C. Even when women have their own money, they still want to date/marry up. The cycle continues again.

Even when they have, they believe its your duty to spend for them, not theirs.

Usually Nigerian women tend to wave a lot of things & bad attitudes noticed, once you have money & living comfortably. The same cannot be said for a man who is still struggling. You will hear things like "it's better to be crying in a Range Rover" than a "keke napep" .

truthsayer009:
See ehn, i understand you but you need to reason with me that we also have Sisters who are leeching (or have leached) men in the past, no one is really exempted from this. The real problem we have here is cultural & the foundations are hard to break.

A lot of young Western women have been working in coffee shops, cafeteria since 15, 16, 17 etc earning money & taking their life in their own hands meanwhile in Nigeria, parents prepare their female children for marriage & tell the male to keep working hard to provide for the family. Till today, Nigerian parents are still greedy & give a wealthy son-in-law preferential treatment.

We need to empower women to work so a new culture can transcend into unborn female children. At the end of the day, we cannot do without women even after they leech on us. So why not work in making sure our unborn Males get to meet best version of Nigerian females yet to be born.

truthsayer009:
Okay then, so we should totally stop women empowerment? Yes or Nay.

1) Ridiculous and wicked divorce laws: your wife can divorce you for no reason (no fault divorce) and she gets half your networth (in cash and assets), your house (even if it's your only house, you have to give it up and stay homeless. No one cares), automatic custody of your children in virtually every case, alimony, and children support. The alimony and child support allocated are ridiculously high but they are justified with "the wife and children should live the life they have been accustomed to." If the husband can't meet up with all these, he is thrown in jail. Many men are devastated by divorce and they commit suicide but no one cares. It unsurprising given that men are seen as disposable utility, many men are simps, and women are cunning and remorseless self-centered survivalist.

2) you are ordered by courts to pay child support even if it is discovered that your wife is guilty of paternity fraud and your child isn't really yours. The woman is allowed to go scot free and isn't obliged to name the true father of the child. Even if you were raped by a woman, you will still pay child support because "they are working in the best interest of the child and the child is entitled to help from both parents" forgetting that it is never justified when society makes a man take responsibility for someone else's action. Male minors in schools get molested by female teachers and when those boys grow, they are ordered by law to pay child support even though they were below the age of consent at the time of abuse.

3) sexual abuse and physical assault are treated as crimes that men committed against women. Women are always the victims. In any reported case, the woman's account, whether true or false, is automatically believed and you are guilty until proven innocent. In fact, people have spent years in jail for a rape crime they never committed and all it took was just an allegations. If a woman calls the cops on you, you are immediately handcuffed without any questions or investigation no matter what. This happens in majority of the cases.

4) In certain places, it is illegal for you to get a DNA test without your wife's permission.

5) If a girl is hits you and you attack back, you risk spending time in jail.

6) During most divorces, the husband is forbidden from relating all that transpired during the divorce proceedings. The man's legal fees and that of his wife are to be paid by the man and the wife is at liberty to sue as many times as she wants. If the wife accuses the man of physically assaulting her or sexually abusing his children, she is automatically believed, given sole custody of the kids, and a restraining order preventing the man from seeing her and the kids. Thus she is empowered in the petty and wicked game of parental alienation.

7) Child support is never about the child that's why they don't ask for receipts on how the mother spends the child support even though they would ask the man to turn in records of his earnings and assets. It's all about the money for the woman. Your wife can claim that she needs more compensation due to the fact that her marriage prevented her from working and she needs to get back on her feet.

8} Women usually get lower prison time for the same crime. Even in cases of murder and physical assault, some do get away with ridiculous excuses.

9) Prenups can't protect you. The court will fling it aside with the most ludicrous excuses possible. If your wife claims she wasn't if the right frame of mind or she was coerced or ticked into signing it, she is believed.

10) Women who falsely accuse you of rape and damage your life with such accusations are hardly ever punished.

11) Women are always the victims and men are the oppressors. Your problems are not important but women's problems demand great concern. Men commit most of the suicides but if it happened to women at the same rate, great attention would be paid to solving women's issues.

12) Ubunja, pansophist, emmaodet, JONNYSPUTE, CAPSLOCKED, AstroG, healthserve, HopefulLandlord etc. can add more.

Martinez39:
Women are already empowered. All this talk of women blah blah blah blah are by people who are still caught up in the romance and cuddling of gender talk. Even if there is really an empowerment, it should be channelled to the men because modern men can be trusted to create a society that is fair and beneficial to both genders. Women, if given the chance, will only create systems and policies that favour their survival and comfort even at the expense of men. If you doubt me, take a look at developed western countries where women have been able to exert some influence with the help of weak men. What do we have:











These are just few cases of a situation where women are given the chance to exert some influence thanks to weak men. If a society must stand strong, men must be strong and take the mantle of leadership. Only modern strong men can create a society that is equal, fair, and safe to both genders. Women will invariably create policies, laws, and situations that favour them and rid them of accountability even at the expense of men. Men are always disposable utilities to women and are only loved for what they provide. I am not trying to be a misogynist, I am just spitting facts. Even more informative is the fact that women are the only ones who do "my money is my money, your money is our money". So don't fault emmaodet.

If there is an empowerment for one gender, let it be channelled towards men because men can be trusted to let their families benefit and live in peace. As many men have experienced, women, if made the bread winner, nastily make hell for their husbands and let the husband struggle while she caters for the children alone. Money collected from her are loans that are given with insults and attitude and must be repayed or you risk irksome nagging while the ones given to her by her husband are gifts given out forever.

I could go on explaining but I have stuffs to read this night. People who do not learn from history or are oblivious of history are bound to repeat it. It will suffice to say that men and women have rights and opportunities and any talk of women empowerments is just gender romance.

truthsayer009:
You had to quote all the divorce laws that I am already aware of, I really do not want to go back & forth with you on this.

Only modern strong men can create a society that is equal, fair, and safe to both genders --- This right here is completely false, usually power intoxicates and people in the affairs of power always make it benefit their kind & oppress the others, this is the expected human behavior and many Laws made by Men have truly oppressed women in the past & still do.

Now if the same power is giving to women, obviously it is not surprising that they would also use it to their favor knowing the how the human mind works.

That being said, there has to be a balance in everything. Empowering women also includes more priority to female education & businesses. It has a major effect on economics growth, it also increases life span of the population & increases social cohesion.

You can disagree & that is fine.

pryme:
Actually men bring nothing to the relationship, its the women that take care of them.
The woman gives him money to look good, buy things to make his life more comfortable, even in some cases when they get married, the woman buys a new car for the man.

In fact men are just a liability, they bring nothing to the relationship, they only look out for rich women (not broke asses) that will be able to take care of them.

Martinez39:
You missed the point by a million yard. I knew what I meant when I said MODERN strong men. You have to realise that humanity is a work in progress. There was a time when slavery, theocracy, and misogyny were the norms but they are behind us for good. The modern man is not a misogynist and will never oppress women. If modern men really hated women, women wouldn't have any right and those divorce laws would never exist. Also, the modern man is weak and "pussified" that's why in addition to giving women equal rights, he has granted them many privileges even at his own expense. Strong modern men are the only ones that will enforce a society that is equal and fair to both genders and would ensure that all are held accountable.

Women already have rights and opportunities as men. Any talk of empowerment is just superfluous cuddling with gender piffle. As to your last point about economic growth, life span of population, and increase social cohesion, can you explain and back these up?

Martinez39:
You missed the point by a million yard. I knew what I meant when I said MODERN strong men. You have to realise that humanity is a work in progress. There was a time when slavery, theocracy, and misogyny were the norms but they are behind us for good. The modern man is not a misogynist and will never oppress women. If modern men really hated women, women wouldn't have any right and those divorce laws would never exist. Also, the modern man is weak and "pussified" that's why in addition to giving women equal rights, he has granted them many privileges even at his own expense. Strong modern men are the only ones that will enforce a society that is equal and fair to both genders and would ensure that all are held accountable.

I am not against women right. My argument, which I made to supplement emmaodet's, is that if it boils down to picking one gender for empowerment in this modern time, it should be men. The very same gender that loves ideally, unlike the other that loves opportunistically hence sees men as disposable utilities. Fortunately, our argument is unnecessary since both genders have rights and opportunities. My problem is how to stop men from being simps.

Women already have rights and opportunities as men. Any talk of empowerment is just superfluous cuddling with gender piffle. As to your last point about economic growth, life span of population, and increase social cohesion, can you explain and back these up?

truthsayer009:
Look, I know quite well that no matter how I try to elaborate on my point, you have already made up your mind about Women.
Going by your definition of modern men, then It's safe to say a lot of Nigerian men cannot be classified as "Modern Men". I can tell you for a fact that most Nigerian men are misogynist by nature. I would be very careful in giving out my daughter to a Nigerian man in all honesty.

Speaking of laws, Civilization has come to play & those divorce laws were fought for, laws don't just come into existence if people didn't actually fight for them. I want to emphasize that no one is interested in giving another party [ in this case, another gender ] an equal rights willingly, women fought for those laws. Why would I willingly make some else stronger so they can share my privileges with me, does that make any sense?

Regarding my last statements, empowering women has an effect on economics growth because It trickles down to their offspring (even if their men are neglected in the process), because those offspring [ children ] are the future, directly or indirectly the economy still benefits from it. Also, It increases social cohesion because more educated & empowered women make better decisions generally which makes them work better with men.

Let me end with this, as someone who has dated women outside of Nigeria in school, far back as 2012. I can tell you the mentality, behaviors & expectations are very different in women across borders. So i clearly know that women aren't the same every where. Since the thread is talking about "What men offer". If any one should be angry, i should be in the fore front honestly, but I have more knowledge now. No need to stress

I still support women empowerment sha, na my own be that

truthsayer009:
Look, I know quite well that no matter how I try to elaborate on my point, you have already made up your mind about Women.
Going by your definition of modern men, then It's safe to say a lot of Nigerian men cannot be classified as "Modern Men". I can tell you for a fact that most Nigerian men are misogynist by nature. I would be very careful in giving out my daughter to a Nigerian man in all honesty.

Speaking of laws, Civilization has come to play & those divorce laws were fought for, laws don't just come into existence if people didn't actually fight for them. I want to emphasize that no one is interested in giving another party [ in this case, another gender ] an equal rights willingly, women fought for those laws. Why would I willingly make some else stronger so they can share my privileges with me, does that make any sense?

Regarding my last statements, empowering women has an effect on economics growth because It trickles down to their offspring (even if their men are neglected in the process), because those offspring [ children ] are the future, directly or indirectly the economy still benefits from it. Also, It increases social cohesion because more educated & empowered women make better decisions generally which makes them work better with men.

Let me end with this, as someone who has dated women outside of Nigeria in school, far back as 2012. I can tell you the mentality, behaviors & expectations are very different in women across borders. So i clearly know that women aren't the same every where. Since the thread is talking about "What men offer". If any one should be angry, i should be in the fore front honestly, but I have more knowledge now. No need to stress.

I still support women empowerment sha, na my own be that

truthsayer009:
Going by your definition of modern men, then It's safe to say a lot of Nigerian men cannot be classified as "Modern Men". I can tell you for a fact that most Nigerian men are misogynist by nature. I would be very careful in giving out my daughter to a Nigerian man in all honesty.

Regarding my last statements, empowering women has an effect on economics growth because It trickles down to their offspring (even if their men are neglected in the process), because those offspring [ children ] are the future, directly or indirectly the economy still benefits from it. Also, It increases social cohesion because more educated & empowered women make better decisions generally which makes them work better with men.

Let me end with this, as someone who has dated women outside of Nigeria in school, far back as 2012. I can tell you the mentality, behaviors & expectations are very different in women across borders. So i clearly know that women aren't the same every where. Since the thread is talking about "What men offer". If any one should be angry, i should be in the fore front honestly, but I have more knowledge now. No need to stress.

I still support women empowerment sha, na my own be that

Ariza:
Look at this one, bringing down one to elevate another. And to think no one ever heard or mentioned your betnaija name. Oga! appreciate people but not at the detriment of others!

chinchonglee:
I ll speak for myself using myost recent EX as a case study

I offered money
I offered job (made her a nice CV and helped her through the online apt test).
Made a great website for her business and help her in importing all her female products from china..
Etc i cant start writing all...

She offered ntn aside sex

Noloss:
Please since when have you started importation from China?

pryme:
Actually men bring nothing to the relationship, its the women that take care of them.
The woman gives him money to look good, buy things to make his life more comfortable, even in some cases when they get married, the woman buys a new car for the man.

In fact men are just a liability, they bring nothing to the relationship, they only look out for rich women (not broke asses) that will be able to take care of them.

chinchonglee:
Since 2016.