ThothHermes:
As far as I know, women are given equal opportunities in Nigeria, men are just better at taking them.
I expect to be disabused of this false notion I apparently hold in my head.

Be careful, she will call you an incel for disagreeing with her.

ThothHermes:
I am very sure you don't know any man who wants his wife to be a coprovider but does not want to be a co-caretaker.

ThothHermes:


No need to get testy.


You mean his wife also contributes to the financial upkeep of the house but he refuses to do anything except watch TV or gist with his friends?
Please who is he?
How did you get to know him?

ThothHermes:
Lol.

You don't.
Think carefully.

You are just assuming that there are such men.
Be honest. Do you any such man personally?

Lol. This point was one of the points I highlighted in my arguments with her but I got not reasonable response. She is crying over nonexistent situation. I was shocked when she said women are sharing the bills and doing the chores and cooking alone while the man just shares the bill. Even if such cases existed, it wouldn't be due to feminism as feminists would demand equality. In fact feminists, being the hypocrites that they are, will run to provider husbands and they wouldn't even do the chores and cooking for flimsy reasons.

Duggedised12:
Dont let these boys get into your head, that is the biggest observation i have made so far. Other than that, good job, and i found your thread on women waking up a very interesting read, kudos.

thanks .

Martinez39:
Be careful, she will call you an incel for disagreeing with her.

Lol. This point was one of the points I highlighted in my arguments with her but I got not reasonable response. She is crying over nonexistent situation. I was shocked when she said women are sharing the bills and doing the chores and cooking alone while the man just shares the bill. Even if such cases existed, it wouldn't be due to feminism as feminists would demand equality. In fact feminists, being the hypocrites that they are, will run to provider husbands and they wouldn't even do the chores and cooking for flimsy reasons.

Lol

I am starting to think that you have to be a special kind of stupid to subscribe to the idea of feminism.
Especially the Nairaland type.

They'll just make up scenarios and start arguing against them.

Ask for just one example of that that kind of men they begin to say rubbish.
If such men existed, they'll be a very miniscule part of the population. Not worth giving a thought.

Martinez39:
Patriarchy doesn't necessarily mean misogyny or unfair treatment of women anymore than matriarchy wouldn't necessarily mean misandry and unfair treatment of men. The cultural settings I highlighted was division of labour at it's finest. As long both men and women had responsibilities, there was no unfair treatment and whosoever enforced these responsibilities is irrelevant. It still wouldn't change the four points I gave.

Women are already empowered. They already have rights and opportunities as men. If that is not enough for you, you are on your own. So you think women need divorce laws and child support laws to be empowered? You are indirectly admitting that women need to somehow extract a man's resources to be empowered. You have got to be kidding me.[b] Your agenda to bring over the misandric injustices we see in the divorce courts of developed countries will not work. Women are already empowered and are not oppressed. Their destinies are their own hands. [/b]Let them go and hustle. So this is what you are all about. By the way, no one is maltreating widows.

Funny how you think setting up divorce laws and child support laws are empowering. I knew, and I said, that all these women empowerment talks are ridiculous garbages, romancing of nonexistent oppression of women, and such "women empowerment" invariably has ulterior motives. I am emmaodet argued this with someone. The issues of widow maltreatment and girl child inheritance are issues that are behind us except in few societies like Islamic societies.

JONNYSPUTE, emmaodet, Omar09, CAPSLOCKED, AstroG, healthserve.


You are missing the point. You claimed women are taking double responsibilities and men ought to solely provide. My argument was that men don't owe women a dime, it is not incumbent on men to provide, and women don't have double responsibilities.

Lol. Women are usually guilty of not keeping up to this. Go figure! Even feminists run to comfort and support the idea that men are to provide when sh!t hit the fan and most women, even feminists, still practice "my money is my money, your money is our money". The scenerios you are crying over are nonexistent. Given all these privileges and hypocrisy, women stand more to lose and men stand to gain more if what you wrote is to be enacted.

Who would you rather have in your life, someone that brings sex or someone that brings money? Food for thought.

Thank you Martinez.

Nothing provokes me like the bullsh.it misandrist divorce laws especially in the US and other developed nations; as in, when I think of how Emmanuel Eboue of Arsenal and MANY rich men have lost a fortune in these court proceedings ehn, and you know what makes these folly really painful, the fact that men, not women, made these laws. Who has bewitched them? If you want to settle a spouse for sticking it out with you for X, Y, years fine, it is commendable; after all, the partner might have made some big sacrifice but slashing net worth, diving assets and other such nonsense is pure bullsh.it, It's just crazy.

Ladycewhy:
thanks .

Don't mention ,just learn not to stop and throw sticks at every dog that barks at you so i was told by a gracious lady Ariza since that day my outlook to these demented dolts who have a sociopath as their mentor changed ,you can do it too.

Duggedised12:
Don't mention ,just learn not to stop and throw sticks at every dog that barks at you so i was told by a gracious lady Ariza since that day my outlook to these demented dolts who have a sociopath as their mentor changed ,you can do it too.

Thanks alot for this.

Baldwretch:

Thank you Martinez.

Nothing provokes me like the bullsh.it misandrist divorce laws especially in the US and other developed nations; as in, when I think of how Emmanuel Eboue of Arsenal and MANY rich men have lost a fortune in these court proceedings ehn, and you know what makes these folly really painful, the fact that men, not women, made these laws. Who has bewitched them? If you want to settle a spouse for sticking it out with you for X, Y, years fine, it is commendable; after all, the partner might have made some big sacrifice but slashing net worth, diving assets and other such nonsense is pure bullsh.it, It's just crazy.

Don't mind the op and her goons. They are cunning and remorseless crooks hiding behind feminism to achieve their hidden agenda of fleecing and emasculating men. If a woman is given equal rights and opportunities as men, isn't she empowered? Yes she is! But the op doesn't see that as empowerment instead the wicked divorce laws and child support laws in western societies are what she sees as empowerment of women. Don't you see we have a crook of mephistophelean proportion on our hands?

Ladycewhy:
well said, they become vindictive and bitter when their ability to provide is taken away, before you know any small thing "na because i nor get work" , even when they are supposed to use their heads and atleast help out since they are useless to their pockets.lol.

According to them women are the greatest evil ever known to the world o. Meanwhile 99% of the people that have soiled the name of this country are all men, even here in Nigeria ,from boko haram, to bandits, to rutialist to serial killers to cultists to yahoo, to pedeophiles even sodomising young boys, they now even have occupational rapists , lol

food for thought.

This is why women need to do better, i don't k ow what our mothers were thinking when they let their sons roam free to become vagabonds to the earth ,na man na man, e don't turn fraudster ,rapist, ritualist ,armed robber, you name it. Smh.

ThothHermes:
Lol

I am starting to think that you have to be a special kind of stupid to subscribe to the idea of feminism.
Especially the Nairaland type.

They'll just make up scenarios and start arguing against them.

Ask for just one example of that that kind of men they begin to say rubbish.
If such men existed, they'll be a very miniscule part of the population. Not worth giving a thought.

The acts of making up nonexistent scenerios and seeing sexism where it does not exist are the special talents of feminism. Can you imagine that in the US, despite having equal rights and opportunities as men; a divorce and child support laws brutally rigged in their favour; and a gynocentric society, American feminists still think there is a patriarchy and rape culture in the USA? They even peddle the myth of gender wage gap.

They can't be taken seriously.

Duggedised12:
food for thought.

This is why women need to do better, i don't k ow what our mothers were thinking when they let their sons roam free to become vagabonds to the earth ,na man na man, e don't turn fraudster ,rapist, ritualist ,armed robber, you name it. Smh.

this is why i created the other thread, women need to wake up, they need to untilise the power in their hands, this is not a battle of might but of tactics and that tactics is to raise better moulded men through our kids.

Ladycewhy:
this is why i created the other thread, women need to wake up, they need to untilise the power in their hands, this is not a battle of might but of tactics and that tactics is to raise better moulded men through our kids.

yeah i read it and i was really impressed by the thread ,well done once again .

Duggedised12:
yeah i read it and i was really impressed by the thread ,well done once again .

thanks sis

Martinez39:
The acts of making up nonexistent scenerios and seeing sexism where it does not exist are the special talents of feminism. Can you imagine that in the US, despite having equal rights and opportunities as men; a divorce and child support laws brutally rigged in their favour; and a gynocentric society, American feminists still think there is a patriarchy and rape culture in the USA? They even peddle the myth of gender wage gap.

They can't be taken seriously.

The mind boggles.

Baldwretch:


Thank you Martinez.

Nothing provokes me like the bullsh.it misandrist divorce laws especially in the US and other developed nations; as in, when I think of how Emmanuel Eboue of Arsenal and MANY rich men have lost a fortune in these court proceedings ehn, and you know what makes these folly really painful, the fact that men, not women, made these laws. Who has bewitched them? If you want to settle a spouse for sticking it out with you for X, Y, years fine, it is commendable; after all, the partner might have made some big sacrifice but slashing net worth, diving assets and other such nonsense is pure bullsh.it, It's just crazy.

Family court doesn’t care if it’s a man or a woman. Communal property AKA what is earned during the marriage (not the entire fortune of the man/woman) is sorted out, then the higher earning couple pays alimony and child support.

Rich women who earn more than their spouse also pay alimony to the man. Madonna, Britney Spears, Mary J Blige etc Halle Berry pays child support to her baby daddy.

You people always use rich people the 1% to criticize the law when the main motivation for such laws are the 99% of Americans who earn mostly 5&6 figures. The alternative will be the Nigerian way, where a woman will be kicked out with only the clothes on her back, women constantly living under the threat of “get out of my house!”. As more women are becoming the higher earning spouse, more women are paying alimony now.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-women-are-paying-alimonythat-includes-supporting-their-exs-porn-habit-2018-05-23

People will always try to find loopholes or take advantage of laws that are intended for those who really need it, it doesn’t mean the law does not serve its purpose.

Martinez39:
Not surprised that you hate men.

(1)) You cunningly and subtly tried to emphase and outstretch the case where the traditional man couldn't provide sufficiently and the woman did her work superbly and aptly thereby being shortchanged as the general representation of all cases back then.
(2)) You also failed to mention that even men and women reserved their daughters for capable men who could provide. You think a traditional man could marry without paying bride price.
(3)) You also erred when you limited the usefulness of traditional men to only providing. You forget that traditional men were the ones who fought wars in which they sacrificed their lives for women and children. They protected and provided security.
(4)) You talk of providing as though it was something traditional men could easily pull from their pockets while women "greatly suffered" being traditional wives. This is ludicrous. The difficulty of the sole act of consistently making money to cater for the family (I exclude protecting and fighting wars) is more difficult than fulfilling the traditional roles of a wives. You would be dishonest to say taking care of the kids and doing the chores are more difficult than making money consistently in the real world.

The seven roles you listed are either irrational or exaggerations.
Lol. So you want them to rub shoulders and heads with their husbands? Even the ancients knew marriage is like a ship and every ship needs just one captain and since it was a patriarchy, men were the leaders and head. If it had been the other way round, a matriarchy, you women wouldn't be complaining. Stop complaining on behalf of traditional women who enjoyed their marriage. Funny enough, if you give traditional women the feminist men of today, they will reject them in favour of the strong masculine and capable men they've always knew.

Men being the head was not a stripping of women's freedom instead both parties had responsibilities. Is it bad to have responsibilities? Men were not given the position of the head just like that as that position came with it's own responsibility and accountability.

What is wrong in this? Is it wrong if there is a division of labour in which the man provides and protects while the woman is responsible for the cooking?

The men of those days who got married were capable providers so shove your hatred up your ass. As I have said, the combined work of looking after the children, cooking, and doing the chores does not equal the difficulty and stress of consistently building up resources to provide and the job of protecting.

Bullcrap. Traditional women were willing and glad to bear children even though they knew the stress of pregnancy and pains of childbirth. Depending on the stage of pregnancy, a woman can be pregnant and still do certain things and that's a fact. If she got too heavy, other wives or a maid took over. Besides, it's not a man's fault that nature endowed women with ability to get pregnant and give birth the way they do. Should we recompense you all for being women? Jokers.

Men too catered for children. They did with the stuffs they provided. Mother did her part, father did his part.

It was a patriarchy so what did you expect. Even if I asked you to give a sound reason why any of the genders is entitled to giving the child it's name, you can't. If you count it unfair for the children to have the father's name, why wouldn't it be unfair for them to have the mother's name?

Na so. The farms were owned by men and women did minor work on their husband farms (eg. helping in harvesting crops sometimes, taking food and water to the men toiling on the farm, going to market to sell the farm produce etc.) the hard work and majority of the work were done by men. The scale and magnitude of farming men did were never done by women, not even up to one-eighth. As men worked, women stayed home to look after the kids and prepared what the men and boys would eat when they came back.

Women already have the same rights and opportunities as men so they are empowered. If you think there are tribes in Nigeria in which women are being oppressed, fight for their equal rights and opportunities as well, that's the true empowerment. You make yourself a joke if your best response to women oppression is divorce laws and child support laws. Lmao.

N.B: this is all I would say to you. I wouldn't respond anymore or go back and forth. I end this matter here.

I know of this lady called chocolatee. She is very bitter and anti-marriage lady.
Seems she was raised by a single mum without fatherly figure hence her bitterness and venom against men.
Martinez, let me tell you one thing - THE HARDEST THING IN THE WORLD IS TO PAY BILLS.
don't let anybody deceive you with house chores or anything.
Regularly clearing daily, weekly, monthly and yearly bills is the worst thing that can ever befall a man. It is extremely hard and energy draining.
Even when you feel like slowing down or take a break from the tiring circle or work, you just can't else all hell will let loose.
About cooking - the question is if she is not married but with a kid as a babymama, wont she still cook? 2/3 times daily? So adding extra 1/2 mouths won't really make much difference.
About children bearing man's surname - pls tell me, if the children are bearing the woman's name then what does the man gain?
So you expect me to be feeding, clothing and educating a bastard that is not mine nor bearing my name? Asedanu
So when they grow up, all you just need to do is to totally cut me off? Afterall they are not bearing my name, i don't have anything connecting me to them, it is a crazy WORLD out there.
It's just like buying a land together and building a house on it yet all documents won't be in my name? Pls tell me, is that not daylight scam?
Or buying a car but it won't be registered on my name, My brother there is fire on the mountain.
One of the reasons why a man is still waking up, running around and thinking is because the children are still in his name so he feels carried along in the project called marriage hence na Scam be that.
Abeg mak i sleep

Franchasng
Pansophist
Ubunja

emmaodet:


I know of this lady called chocolatee. She is very bitter and anti-marriage lady.
Seems she was raised by a single mum without fatherly figure hence her bitterness and venom against men.
Martinez, let me tell you one thing - THE HARDEST THING IN THE WORLD IS TO PAY BILLS.
don't let anybody deceive you with house chores or anything.
Regularly clearing daily, weekly, monthly and yearly bills is the worst thing that can ever befall a man. It is extremely hard and energy draining.
Even when you feel like slowing down or take a break from the tiring circle or work, you just can't else all hell will let loose.
About cooking - the question is if she is not married but with a kid as a babymama, wont she still cook? 2/3 times daily? So adding extra 1/2 mouths won't really make much difference.
About children bearing man's surname - pls tell me, if the children are bearing the woman's name then what does the man gain?
So you expect me to be feeding, clothing and educating a bastard that is not mine nor bearing my name? Asedanu
So when they grow up, all you just need to do is to totally cut me off? Afterall they are not bearing my name, i don't have anything connecting me to them, it is a crazy WORLD out there.
It's just like buying a land together and building a house on it yet all documents won't be in my name? Pls tell me, is that not daylight scam?
Or buying a car but it won't be registered on my name, My brother there is fire on the mountain.
One of the reasons why a man is still waking up, running around and thinking is because the children are still in his name so he feels carried along in the project called marriage hence na Scam be that.
Abeg mak i sleep

Franchasng
Pansophist
Ubunja

You have added valid points my brother. These ladies are seeing oppression where it doesn't exist. How can someone compare cooking, cleaning, and looking after the children to the difficulty and stress of consistently paying the bills and meeting the needs of the household year in year out? Add that difficulty to being responsible for the protection and security of society and fighting wars.

Today, most of these women just look after the kids and share the house chores with their husbands even though oga is doing all the providing (they hide behind "motherhood is the most difficult job in the world", "looking after the children is very difficult", "I am not my husband's slave so I won't do the chores. My job is just to look after the kids" etc. and other excuses to justify their laziness). Some men even provide and still employ house maids just because the wife is very lazy. You won't see feminists complaining about this yet someone thinks women are taking on "double responsibilities".

Good night. I am tired.

No adult would be so ignorant to say that undomesticated men are few, rather it is domesticated Nigerian men that are few. So I bet you are joking, and she got your joke and ignored you. Click on family section, you gonna see several threads that border on lazy men who cannot do chores/help out, even to cook their own breakfasts during emergency situations. Some who work from home, and others who are jobless, wife is bread winner, yet they don't help, because of the black man's foolish ego. The thread is titled ''how can I understand/satisfy my
husband?''.

The second thread is titled ''married men can you tolerate this? Married ladies are you all the same?''. Both threads are currently on the front page, and such threads keep littering the front page, go and read it, come back here and start another line of arguments and false claims........... but I'm done with you.

ThothHermes:
It's obvious you don't know any such man.
Au revoir.

liberalchick:

Family court doesn’t care if it’s a man or a woman. Communal property AKA what is earned during the marriage (not the entire fortune of the man/woman) is sorted out, then the higher earning couple pays alimony and child support.

Rich women who earn more than their spouse also pay alimony to the man. Madonna, Britney Spears, Mary J Blige etc Halle Berry pays child support to her baby daddy.

You people always use rich people the 1% to criticize the law when the main motivation for such laws are the 99% of Americans who earn mostly 5&6 figures. The alternative will be the Nigerian way, where a woman will be kicked out with only the clothes on her back, women constantly living under the threat of “get out of my house!”. As more women are becoming the higher earning spouse, more women are paying alimony now.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-women-are-paying-alimonythat-includes-supporting-their-exs-porn-habit-2018-05-23

People will always try to find loopholes or take advantage of laws that are intended for those who really need it, it doesn’t mean the law does not serve its purpose.

i replied one with Adele and Wendy Williams' case but he came back to view and didn't have anything to say again. These boys here are hopeless liars. Just wait they will either ignore this your comment cos they know it is the truth or twist it ,lol

LilMissFavvy:
No adult would be so ignorant to say that undomesticated men are few, rather it is domesticated Nigerian men that are few. So I bet you are joking, and she got your joke and ignored you. Click on family section, you gonna see several threads that border on lazy men who cannot do chores/help out, even to cook their own breakfasts during emergency situations. Some who work from home, and others who are jobless, wife is bread winner, yet they don't help, because of the black man's foolish ego. The thread is titled ''how can I understand/satisfy my
husband?''.

The second thread is titled ''married men can you tolerate this? Married ladies are you all the same?''. Both threads are currently on the front page, and such threads keep littering the front page, go and read it, come back here and start another line of arguments and false claims........... but I'm done with you.

In addition to being criminally inclined many men are also blockheads that dont understand opposing points of view.

These topics you mentioned I have read every single one of them including the lazy dolt that called his wife to return back home to serve him breakfast and the woman has her own job and is a co provider. I know what's up.

In the building I live presently and have lived before, there are some useless men like that.
Even where I work there is this jobless man that comes to the betnaija shop sharing our building, to waste whatever money he borrowed or stole on betting and then goes home to beat her up out of ego and frustration. Everybody on the block knows the guy. In my former office my boss made the mistake of marrying a guy who has a diploma while she herself has masters, she had to divorce the him after the daily beating from the man was too much for her to bear. Why was he beating her up? Because of low self esteem and because he felt she is now too arrogant for him.

What these small boys on nairaland do is spend all day on American forums and American websites, all day, never leaving their houses, they learn American ways of life and then come to a Nigerian forum thinking things are the same in both countries. Clowns that dont know jack about real life but want to argue.

CHoccolaTE:


In addition to being criminally inclined many men are also blockheads that dont understand opposing points of view.

These topics you mentioned I have read every single one of them including the lazy dolt that called his wife to return back home to serve him breakfast and the woman has her own job and is a co provider. I know what's up.

In the building I live presently and have lived before, there are some useless men like that.
Even where I work there is this jobless man that comes to the betnaija shop sharing our building, to waste whatever money he borrowed or stole on betting and then goes home to beat her up out of ego and frustration. Everybody on the block knows the guy. In my former office my boss made the mistake of marrying a guy who has a diploma while she herself has masters, she had to divorce the him after the daily beating from the man was too much for her to bear. Why was he beating her up? Because of low self esteem and because he felt she is now too arrogant for him.

What these small boys on nairaland do is spend all day on American forums and American websites, all day, never leaving their houses, they learn American ways of life and then come to a Nigerian forum thinking things are the same in both countries. Clowns that dont know jack about real life but want to argue.

sadly they don't want to fully implement the american way they are already practicing ,lol

Ladycewhy:
sadly they don't want to fully implement the american way they are already practicing ,lol

Dont mind them

CHoccolaTE:

Dont mind them

they even go as far as hiding under female monikers to comment now o, how desperate and insufferable can one be,lol.

Ladycewhy:
they even go as far as hiding under female monikers to comment now o, how desperate and insufferable can one be,lol.

Thought I was the only one who noticed this


Nairaland and her Alpha males wannabes.

maynation:


Thought I was the only one who noticed this


Nairaland and her Alpha males wannabes.

i know about three already, lol its disgraceful that they have to pose as women to win argument ,lol . From their tone ,if you observe carefully you will know.

Ladycewhy:
i know about three already, lol its disgraceful that they have to pose as women to win argument ,lol . From their tone ,if you observe carefully you will know.

I tell these boys, they can't win any argument without them sounding shitty, unruly and even cowardly mentioning their fellow unintelligent kiddos to come to their rescue(this isn't working anymore so they've resulted to using female monikers )
Anyways, I was just smiling @ every point you all made on here.
Good work and Good thread.

maynation:


I tell these boys, they can't win any argument without them sounding shitty, unruly and even cowardly mentioning their fellow unintelligent kiddos to come to their rescue(this isn't working anymore so they've resulted to using female monikers )
Anyways, I was just smiling @ every point you all made on here.
Good work and Good thread.

lol, you know them well, hiding under female monikers is the new tactics for them, lol ,boys will be boys ,how low they have gone ,lol

LilMissFavvy:
No adult would be so ignorant to say that undomesticated men are few, rather it is domesticated Nigerian men that are few.

An "undomesticated" man who shares the bills. No goalpost shifting .

So I bet you are joking, and she got your joke and ignored you.

She did not. She just did not know any so she was dancing right and left.

Click on family section, you gonna see several threads that border on lazy men who cannot do chores/help out, even to cook their own breakfasts during emergency situations. Some who work from home, and others who are jobless, wife is bread winner, yet they don't help, because of the black man's foolish ego. The thread is titled ''how can I understand/satisfy my
husband?''.

The second thread is titled ''married men can you tolerate this? Married ladies are you all the same?''. Both threads are currently on the front page, and such threads keep littering the front page, go and read it, come back here and start another line of arguments and false claims...........

I can't begin to explain how thoughtless this kind of reasoning is. For every such thread (which are unverifiable by the way), there are hundreds, if not thousands of threads with comments from male posters showing that they are partakers in domestic duties. If you take any random sample of sufficient size, you will see that those undomesticated men (who want to share the bills) are still less than 1% of the male population.

but I'm done with you.

It would have made sense if you answered the question I asked her instead of veering off in another direction. Do you know any such man personally?
I really hope you are done with me. Responding to you is a thankless and stressful task.

Martinez39:
You have added valid points my brother. These ladies are seeing oppression where it doesn't exist. How can someone compare cooking, cleaning, and looking after the children to the difficulty and stress of consistently paying the bills and meeting the needs of the household year in year out? Add that difficulty to being responsible for the protection and security of society and fighting wars.

Today, most of these women just look after the kids and share the house chores with their husbands even though oga is doing all the providing (they hide behind "motherhood is the most difficult job in the world", "looking after the children is very difficult", "I am not my husband's slave so I won't do the chores. My job is just to look after the kids" etc. and other excuses to justify their laziness). Some men even provide and still employ house maids just because the wife is very lazy. You won't see feminists complaining about this yet someone thinks women are taking on "double responsibilities".

Good night. I am tired.

[/quote]you know why I don't take any of these idiots seriously? Everything they vomit online is just audio in the end they'll still log out and follow one boy to fast food, beg money for hair etc.
A "modern" woman earning money is almost useless to the family people that will have register for money they spent on the family and demand repayment as soon as the husband arrive is whom these idiots are even mentioning.
The day I knew women were mad was the day I heard my very own blood sister dragging her husband the money she and their daughter used to feed when he traveled for a few days.
Another very rich woman I know accumulated all her wealth and buy a big jeep. She calculates every dime she spends and collect it from her husband.
Women that believe her money is her money and your money our money.
Look at the other one talking about how Spears is paying child support lol. That's like saying a woman was jailed for raping a man, the rarest of happenings. Women marry up the social ladder. Women marry someone richer than them while men marry anyone.
A male CEO can leave Abuja, go to the village and marry a village girl but a female CEO will never marry a broke boy. This is why the law is against men because men are always richer than their wives so men lose far more in any case of divorce. The only reasonable thing will be a little form of settlement or compensation for the time we spent together perhaps you might have even made me go through hell sef but just manage this small thing to start your life. The richer partner should be given custody not using that as an excuse to fleece the man for the rest of his life. There are thousands of men that genuinely wanted to be given custody of their children but the woman always win. I want my son to be with me, I will take care of him you say no then demand I pay you for the choice you made yourself and the court agree is that not madness?

The other illiterate is talking about how men started wars. I guess she hasn't heard of Queen Isabella of Spain, cleopatra of Egypt, Queen Elizabeth I queen Anne, Queen Mary the bloody that sent men to fight their wars

Lilbest3:
you know why I don't take any of these idiots seriously? Everything they vomit online is just audio in the end they'll still log out and follow one boy to fast food, beg money for hair etc.
A "modern" woman earning money is almost useless to the family people that will have register for money they spent on the family and demand repayment as soon as the husband arrive is whom these idiots are even mentioning.
The day I knew women were mad was the day I heard my very own blood sister dragging her husband the money she and their daughter used to feed when he traveled for a few days.
Another very rich woman I know accumulated all her wealth and buy a big jeep. She calculates every dime she spends and collect it from her husband.
Women that believe her money is her money and your money our money.
Look at the other one talking about how Spears is paying child support lol. That's like saying a woman was jailed for raping a man, the most rarest of happenings. Women marry up the social ladder. Women marry someone richer than them while men marry anyone.
A male CEO can leave Abuja, go to the village and marry a village girl but a female CEO will never marry a broke boy. This is why the law is against men because men are always richer than their wives so men lose far more in any case of divorce. The only reasonable thing will be a little form of settlement or compensation for the time we spent together perhaps you might have even made me go through hell sef but just manage this small thing to start your life. The richer partner should be given custody not using that as an excuse to fleece the man for the rest of his life. There are thousands of men that genuinely wanted to be given custody of their children but the woman always win. I want my son to be with me, I will take care of him you say no then demand I pay you for the choice you made yourself and the court agree is that not madness?

The other illiterate is talking about how men started wars. I guess she hasn't heard of Queen Isabella of Spain, cleopatra of Egypt, Queen Elizabeth I queen Anne, Queen Mary the bloody that sent men to fight their wars

When you lack history, you will always sound stupid.

I'm pretty sure she never heard of Mrs Efunroye Tinubu the great slave merchant that sold people as slaves to the whites.

I honestly do not think they spend time on American forums, because if they do, they would definitely reason and know better. The last one who's message I replied was not able to comprehend the OPs simple reply, of saying yes, that she has seen undomesticated men. What I feel is that they are pretending, immature, or it's a psychological thing. You see them rush into threads, tag their pallies, yet at the end of the day, they can't make a tangible point. Thats why I stopped wasting my time in arguments with them, especially in issues like this.

CHoccolaTE:


In addition to being criminally inclined many men are also blockheads that dont understand opposing points of view.

These topics you mentioned I have read every single one of them including the lazy dolt that called his wife to return back home to serve him breakfast and the woman has her own job and is a co provider. I know what's up.

In the building I live presently and have lived before, there are some useless men like that.
Even where I work there is this jobless man that comes to the betnaija shop sharing our building, to waste whatever money he borrowed or stole on betting and then goes home to beat her up out of ego and frustration. Everybody on the block knows the guy. In my former office my boss made the mistake of marrying a guy who has a diploma while she herself has masters, she had to divorce the him after the daily beating from the man was too much for her to bear. Why was he beating her up? Because of low self esteem and because he felt she is now too arrogant for him.

What these small boys on nairaland do is spend all day on American forums and American websites, all day, never leaving their houses, they learn American ways of life and then come to a Nigerian forum thinking things are the same in both countries. Clowns that dont know jack about real life but want to argue.

liberalchick:

Family court doesn’t care if it’s a man or a woman. Communal property AKA what is earned during the marriage (not the entire fortune of the man/woman) is sorted out, then the higher earning couple pays alimony and child support.

Rich women who earn more than their spouse also pay alimony to the man. Madonna, Britney Spears, Mary J Blige etc Halle Berry pays child support to her baby daddy.

You people always use rich people the 1% to criticize the law when the main motivation for such laws are the 99% of Americans who earn mostly 5&6 figures. The alternative will be the Nigerian way, where a woman will be kicked out with only the clothes on her back, women constantly living under the threat of “get out of my house!”. As more women are becoming the higher earning spouse, more women are paying alimony now.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-women-are-paying-alimonythat-includes-supporting-their-exs-porn-habit-2018-05-23

People will always try to find loopholes or take advantage of laws that are intended for those who really need it, it doesn’t mean the law does not serve its purpose.

I am not ignorant of the fact that women also pay alimony and child support, but I am against THE SETTLEMENT RATIO.

You don't ask me to give up more than 40 percent of what I earned in the course of the marriage in the name of equity or equality or whatever they call it. That's sheer nonsense. Take Tiger Woods for instance, the man had to cough $750 Million in the divorce proceedings. Oh madness and folly and stupidity and nonsense, what kind of a depraved judicial system is this? The money is way, way too much nah. Aunty liberal, you too reason am nah.

And then you have people having prenup which trivializes marriage. The judicial system has made marriage a joke and I would not be surprised I more and more American men do not get married in the future. The purpose of the settlement has been made a joke, too, I am not even going to go into golddiggers who get married with ulterior motives or so.

Martinez39:
Don't mind the op and her goons. They are cunning and remorseless crooks hiding behind feminism to achieve their hidden agenda of fleecing and emasculating men. If a woman is given equal rights and opportunities as men, isn't she empowered? Yes she is! But the op doesn't see that as empowerment instead the wicked divorce laws and child support laws in western societies are what she sees as empowerment of women. Don't you see we have a crook of mephistophelean proportion on our hands?

I think I have to agree. Women have no excuse. Do men enjoy special rights and opportunities that women do not enjoy? NOPE.