| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Jabioro: 9:46am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Don't mind this people.. Muhammed was born aa at the time when paper has been invented..Feather were being used..and they couldn't do a perfect work..God send what... 1 Like |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by olarid01: 9:47am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Moneyboyz:
Alaye how many times do you want to quote the same shit repeatedly..
This is very annoying.
How can a man memorize the whole book alone verse my verse, you said some set of of people persuaded him to.write after giving testimony that the Lord ordered it be written, what if it's a life just to preserve their legacy..
The Bible is written by so many people giving their own account which makes it more convincing..
You are killing yourself because of what a single man wrote thousands of years ago..
At the end of the day what has your religion of peace caused, all terrorist groups are muslims so far just because a drunk man included something's..
The innocent people blood are on your neck. Dindinrin nio. You think everyone is as daft as you are. Millions of non Arabs memorized the quran without mistaking a single sign talkless of alphabet. How easy do you think that will be for arabs that dedicated their whole life for it? Oponun omo. 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Moneyboyz: 9:48am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Here is a brief history of Mohamed for the ignorant Muslims
Mohammed, the prophet of Islam and the founder of Mohammedanism, was born at Mecca (20 August?) A.D. 570.
Arabia was then torn by warring factions. The tribe of Fihr, or Quarish, to which Mohammed belonged, had established itself in the south of Hijas (Hedjaz), near Mecca, which was, even then, the principal religious and commercial centre of Arabia. The power of the tribe was continually increasing; they had become the masters and the acknowledged guardians of the sacred Kaaba, within the town of Mecca — then visited in annual pilgrimage by the heathen Arabs with their offerings and tributes — and had thereby gained such preeminence that it was comparatively easy for Mohammed to inaugurate his religious reform and his political campaign, which ended with the conquest of all Arabia and the fusion of the numerous Arab tribes into one nation, with one religion, one code, and one sanctuary.
The above shows there is no Islam just religion which we all know is idol worshipping.
Mohammed's father was Abdallah, of the family of Hashim, who died soon after his son's birth. At the age of six the boy lost his mother and was thereafter taken care of by his uncle Abu-Talib. He spent his early life as a shepherd and an attendant of caravans, and at the age of twenty-five married a rich widow, Khadeejah, fifteen years his senior. She bore him six children, all of whom died very young except Fatima, his beloved daughter.
On his commercial journeys to Syria and Palestine he became acquainted with Jews and Christians, and acquired an imperfect knowledge of their religion and traditions. He was a man of retiring disposition, addicted to prayer and fasting, and was subject to epileptic fits. In his fortieth year (A.D. 612), he claimed to have received a call from the Angel Gabriel, and thus began his active career as the prophet of Allah and the apostle of Arabia.
His converts were about forty in all, including his wife, his daughter, his father-in-law Abu Bakr, his adopted son Ali Omar, and his slave Zayd. By his preaching and his attack on heathenism, Mohammed provoked persecution which drove him from Mecca to Medina in 622, the year of the Hejira (Flight) and the beginning of the Mohammedan Era. At Medina he was recognized as the prophet of God, and his followers increased.
He took the field against his enemies, conquered several Arabian, Jewish, and Christian tribes, entered Mecca in triumph in 630, demolished the idols of the Kaaba, became master of Arabia, and finally united all the tribes under one emblem and one religion. In 632 he made his last pilgrimage to Mecca at the head of forty thousand followers, and soon after his return died of a violent fever in the sixty-third year of his age, the eleventh of the Hejira, and the year 633 of the Christian era.
I still don't know where you all got your Quran from cause it's clearly a copycat of the Bible.
Imagine someone who derived his religion from Jews and Christains convinced himself that he knows better than they do and because he's a powerful man, he came back to conquer the same Christains and Jews whom he copycat his religion from.
Seriously this is surprising. 8 Likes 4 Shares |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Moneyboyz: 9:49am On Dec 20, 2019 |
olarid01:
Dindinrin nio. You think everyone is as daft as you are. Millions of non Arabs memorized the quran without mistaking a single sign talkless of alphabet. How easy do you think that will be for arabs that dedicated their whole life for it?
Oponun omo. Ode, kuku say the Bible was copied from.the Quran. Go and enjoy your copyrighted letters. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by olarid01: 9:53am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Moneyboyz:
Ode, kuku say the Bible was copied from.the Quran.
Go and enjoy your copyrighted letters. What's my own problem with your bible? You are the insecure daft fellow that insisted on saying rubish on what you know nothing about. I raised a valid point and the best you could come up with is that? Pathetic little fool 3 Likes |
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| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Nobody: 9:59am On Dec 20, 2019 |
OfficialAPCNig:
Deceive your fellow Yoruba Moslems, Koran was single handedly written by Zayd
This particular revelation has made many Moslems to convert you claim to be a true Muslim before commenting.. who is deceiving who? 1 Like |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:00am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Moneyboyz:
Alaye how many times do you want to quote the same shit repeatedly..
This is very annoying.
Truth is one. It should always be repeated to the people who rejects it. Moneyboyz:
How can a man memorize the whole book alone verse my verse, you said some set of of people persuaded him to.write after giving testimony that the Lord ordered it be written, what if it's a life just to preserve their legacy.. The Qur'an has been memorised for by tens of millions in a just over a thousand years! Which other Book can boast of this? Moneyboyz:
The Bible is written by so many people giving their own account which makes it more convincing..
You are killing yourself because of what a single man wrote thousands of years ago.. I would say the Bible was written by over 40 people over thousands of years. And that's why there are contradictions, errors, foolishness. stupidity, wisdom, etc all mixed together in it. Moneyboyz:
At the end of the day what has your religion of peace caused, all terrorist groups are muslims so far just because a drunk man included something's..
The innocent people blood are on your neck. So far the people killed by your three Gods is uncountable. Contact Antichristian to give you the details. 6 Likes |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Patrioticman007(m): 10:01am On Dec 20, 2019 |
nutarious:
There is a way you tell yourself lies and want to believe the lies, at such point the lies looks like truth.
But when it's tested in open experiments, such lies won't or can't hold.
Muslims believe Quran is perfect, yet it was Compiled by a Man, can you believe that, that the Human brain is capable of retaining such verse?
Yet, Muslim choose to believe much of this unproven tendencies.
If you agree He was good in Memmorizing, why did he also gather from old writen ones around.
Also, robots have not been produced to 100% efficiency, not to talk of Man.
So we all should just believe a Man was perfect enough to write and we believe this man was absolutely correct.
When Religion is beyond facts and truths it has become illusion.
I recommend you dont post such things again. Your other Muslim. Brethren won't be happy . Ignorance is a problem in Africa, because blacks hate to read, The Jews & Christians that brought these two religions to Africa, are yet to dispute these facts of memorization of holy Quran by human memories, we have thousands of Hafiz's in Nigeria today, that I will gladly make you meet, them if you want. We have yearly Qur'anic recitation & memorization competition in Nigeria, please endure to attend one. 4 Likes |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by malvisguy212: 10:01am On Dec 20, 2019 |
“We used to recite a surah which
resembled in length and severity to
(Surah) Bara’at. I HAVE, HOWEVER,
FORGOTTEN IT with the exception of this
which I remember out of it: ‘If there
were two valleys full of riches, for the
son of Adam, he would long for a
third valley and nothing would fill the
stomach of the son of Adam but
dust'”. Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.501)
Here we see the evidence for a whole chapter which is missing from the Quran. These evidences from Islamic tradition prove the fact that Quran is incomplete and imperfect. This also raises serious questions about how the rest of the Quran can be trusted to be the true and complete revelation of the true God. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Moneyboyz: 10:05am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv:
Truth is one. It should always be repeated to the people who rejects it.
The Qur'an has been memorised for by tens of millions in a just over a thousand years! Which other Book can boast of this?
I would say the Bible was written by over 40 people over thousands of years. And that's why there are contradictions, errors, foolishness. stupidity, wisdom, etc all mixed together in it.
So far the people killed by your three Gods is uncountable. Contact Antichristian to give you the details. So you still do not know that Islam came into existence after christainity. Maybe you should read the brief history I posted. Mohamed On his commercial journeys to Syria and Palestine he became acquainted with Jews and Christians, and acquired an imperfect knowledge of their religion and traditions.He was a man of retiring disposition, addicted to prayer and fasting, and was subject to epileptic fits. In his fortieth year (A.D. 612), he claimed to have received a call from the Angel Gabriel, and thus began his active career as the prophet of Allah and the apostle of Arabia. His converts were about forty in all, including his wife, his daughter, his father-in-law Abu Bakr, his adopted son Ali Omar, and his slave Zayd. By his preaching and his attack on heathenism, Mohammed provoked persecution which drove him from Mecca to Medina in 622, the year of the Hejira (Flight) and the beginning of the Mohammedan Era. At Medina he was recognized as the prophet of God, and his followers increased. He took the field against his enemies, conquered several Arabian, Jewish, and Christian tribes, entered Mecca in triumph in 630, I believe you know the Bible is in existence before him, now tell me how he got the Quran and fed it to his followers. It's just like every modern day pastor twisting the doctrine to suit themselves and make people follow them. He may have brainwashed you and you also brainwashing your fellow breathen, history never lies and there are people who never forgets. Please wise up. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Nobody: 10:08am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv:
Calling someone you met online who may be your elder names is offensive and shows you lack proper home training. Work on your etiquette and manners.
The Qur'an was compiled by Zayd on the order of Abu Bakr and Umar ( May Allah be pleased with them all. This is clearly stated in the OP with authentic hadith but as you can't read...
False. Abu Bakr and Umar suggested Zayd to compile the Qur'an. Abu Bakr died 2 years after the Prophet. Not 20 years but 2 years!
Many were massacred but Zayd ibn Thabit, Abu Bakr, Umar and many other memorisers were not.
The word "few" is relative. The Sahaabi Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him) knew the Qur’aan by heart but he was methodical in his confirmation; he would not agree to write down any verse until two of the Sahaabah testified that they had heard it from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
It is 2 years. And millions do memorise the Qur'an too today!
Of cos he did but he (may Allaah be pleased with him) knew the Qur’aan by heart and was methodical in his confirmation; he would not agree to write down any verse until two of the Sahaabah testified that they had heard it from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
False. Where did you get all this lies from?
True.
False.
Don't be confused. All this your confusion would have been thrashed if you have been patient enough to read the original post.
After compilation by Zayd....
Then the complete manuscript (copy) of the Qur’aan remained with Abu Bakr until he died, then with 'Umar until the end of his life, and then with Hafsah, the daughter of 'Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him).
This Mus-haf (written copy of the Qur’aan) remained in the hands of the caliphs until the time of the Rightly-Guided Caliph ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan (may Allaah be pleased with him). The Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) had dispersed to different lands, and they used to recite the Qur’aan according to what they had heard of the seven recitations from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and each of their students used to recite according to what he had heard from his shaykh. If a student heard someone reciting in a manner different from what he knew, he would denounce him and accuse him of making a mistake, and this went on until the Sahaabah feared that there would be fitnah (trouble) between the Taabi’een and successive generations. So they thought that they should unite the people in following one recitation, which was in the dialect of Quraysh in which the Qur’aan had first been revealed, so as to dispel any disputes and resolve the matter. ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) was consulted, and he agreed with this opinion.
Leave the idiot pls.. he hasn't finish questioning his life challenges. Social media is something else to some people 3 Likes |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by AntiChristian: 10:18am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Moneyboyz:
So you still do not know that Islam came into existence after christainity. Maybe you should read the brief history I posted.
Mohamed On his commercial journeys to Syria and Palestine he became acquainted with Jews and Christians, and acquired an imperfect knowledge of their religion and traditions.
He was a man of retiring disposition, addicted to prayer and fasting, and was subject to epileptic fits. In his fortieth year (A.D. 612), he claimed to have received a call from the Angel Gabriel, and thus began his active career as the prophet of Allah and the apostle of Arabia.
His converts were about forty in all, including his wife, his daughter, his father-in-law Abu Bakr, his adopted son Ali Omar, and his slave Zayd. By his preaching and his attack on heathenism, Mohammed provoked persecution which drove him from Mecca to Medina in 622, the year of the Hejira (Flight) and the beginning of the Mohammedan Era. At Medina he was recognized as the prophet of God, and his followers increased. He took the field against his enemies, conquered several Arabian, Jewish, and Christian tribes, entered Mecca in triumph in 630,
I believe you know the Bible is in existence before him, now tell me how he got the Quran and fed it to his followers.
It's just like every modern day pastor twisting the doctrine to suit themselves and make people follow them.
He may have brainwashed you and you also brainwashing your fellow breathen, history never lies and there are people who never forgets.
Please wise up. The word Islam الإسلام mentioned 10 times in Quran in 09 verses but your God forgot to mention Christianity once in the whole Bible!(2:208) يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا ادْخُلُوا فِي السِّلْمِ كَافَّةً O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy. (3:19) إِنَّ الدِّينَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الْإِسْلَامُ Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them – out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account. (3:85) وَمَنْ يَبْتَغِ غَيْرَ الْإِسْلَامِ دِينًا فَلَنْ يُقْبَلَ مِنْهُ And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. (5:3) وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الْإِسْلَامَ دِينًا Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin – then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (6:125) فَمَنْ يُرِدِ اللَّهُ أَنْ يَهْدِيَهُ يَشْرَحْ صَدْرَهُ لِلْإِسْلَامِ So whoever Allah wants to guide – He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide – He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe. (9:74) وَلَقَدْ قَالُوا كَلِمَةَ الْكُفْرِ وَكَفَرُوا بَعْدَ إِسْلَامِهِمْ They swear by Allah that they did not say [anything against the Prophet] while they had said the word of disbelief and disbelieved after their [pretense of] Islam and planned that which they were not to attain. And they were not resentful except [for the fact] that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them of His bounty. So if they repent, it is better for them; but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper. (39:22) أَفَمَنْ شَرَحَ اللَّهُ صَدْرَهُ لِلْإِسْلَامِ فَهُوَ عَلَىٰ نُورٍ مِنْ رَبِّهِ So is one whose breast Allah has expanded to [accept] Islam and he is upon a light from his Lord [like one whose heart rejects it]? Then woe to those whose hearts are hardened against the remembrance of Allah. Those are in manifest error. (49:17) يَمُنُّونَ عَلَيْكَ أَنْ أَسْلَمُوا ۖ قُلْ لَا تَمُنُّوا عَلَيَّ إِسْلَامَكُمْ ۖ بَلِ اللَّهُ يَمُنُّ عَلَيْكُمْ أَنْ هَدَاكُمْ لِلْإِيمَانِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ صَادِقِينَ They consider it a favor to you that they have accepted Islam. Say, “Do not consider your Islam a favor to me. Rather, Allah has conferred favor upon you that He has guided you to the faith, if you should be truthful. (61:7) وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ الْكَذِبَ وَهُوَ يُدْعَىٰ إِلَى الْإِسْلَامِ And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah untruth while he is being invited to Islam. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people. 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by advocatejare(m): 10:21am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Nice piece |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Moneyboyz: 10:22am On Dec 20, 2019 |
AntiChristian:
The word Islam الإسلام mentioned 10 times in Quran in 09 verses but your God forgot to mention Christianity once in the whole Bible!
(2:208)
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا ادْخُلُوا فِي السِّلْمِ كَافَّةً
O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy.
(3:19)
إِنَّ الدِّينَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الْإِسْلَامُ
Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them – out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.
(3:85)
وَمَنْ يَبْتَغِ غَيْرَ الْإِسْلَامِ دِينًا فَلَنْ يُقْبَلَ مِنْهُ
And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.
(5:3)
وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الْإِسْلَامَ دِينًا
Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin – then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
(6:125)
فَمَنْ يُرِدِ اللَّهُ أَنْ يَهْدِيَهُ يَشْرَحْ صَدْرَهُ لِلْإِسْلَامِ
So whoever Allah wants to guide – He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide – He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe.
(9:74)
وَلَقَدْ قَالُوا كَلِمَةَ الْكُفْرِ وَكَفَرُوا بَعْدَ إِسْلَامِهِمْ
They swear by Allah that they did not say [anything against the Prophet] while they had said the word of disbelief and disbelieved after their [pretense of] Islam and planned that which they were not to attain. And they were not resentful except [for the fact] that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them of His bounty. So if they repent, it is better for them; but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.
(39:22)
أَفَمَنْ شَرَحَ اللَّهُ صَدْرَهُ لِلْإِسْلَامِ فَهُوَ عَلَىٰ نُورٍ مِنْ رَبِّهِ
So is one whose breast Allah has expanded to [accept] Islam and he is upon a light from his Lord [like one whose heart rejects it]? Then woe to those whose hearts are hardened against the remembrance of Allah. Those are in manifest error.
(49:17)
يَمُنُّونَ عَلَيْكَ أَنْ أَسْلَمُوا ۖ قُلْ لَا تَمُنُّوا عَلَيَّ إِسْلَامَكُمْ ۖ بَلِ اللَّهُ يَمُنُّ عَلَيْكُمْ أَنْ هَدَاكُمْ لِلْإِيمَانِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ صَادِقِينَ
They consider it a favor to you that they have accepted Islam. Say, “Do not consider your Islam a favor to me. Rather, Allah has conferred favor upon you that He has guided you to the faith, if you should be truthful.
(61:7)
وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ الْكَذِبَ وَهُوَ يُدْعَىٰ إِلَى الْإِسْلَامِ
And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah untruth while he is being invited to Islam. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.
Sweet jeez, are you this stupid, you said this book is written by a man, so you are saying he didn't include this himself.. someone copied other peoples religion and made it his own, to back it up he made a copy of their holy book. It's all included go make it sound so real and convincing. 9 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by olawonder(m): 10:23am On Dec 20, 2019 |
So ppl who aren’t Muslims claimed to be in order to cause mischief on a post they have no knowledge about?
So much irrelevant debate about compilation of Quran when, for the Muslims who read it everyday, its the greatest blessing to mankind... why don’t u just try and read the Quran and see for yourself(?) Even if the compilation isn’t perfect, this (One) Mushaf that we Muslims have is sufficient to live the holiest life and attain the pleasures of God! What else should the Quran have had that it doesn’t have now abeg?
And, why is it so difficult for non Muslims to comprehend the fact that there are ppl, even today who Memorize the whole Quran word for word without missing out any letter? 7 Likes |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by ContractKiller: 10:23am On Dec 20, 2019 |
That's funny since MuhaMAD himself was unable to memorize the Quran [img] https://images./3lunuCWoblaiG5lWuTpVvj.jpg[/img] Ladyzeus:
Actually there are millions of Muslim around the world that memorizes and and can recount the Qu'ran without mincing a single alphabet.
Most of these ppl are not Arab and only learn Arabic for such purpose.
So how will such feat be impossible for an eloquent speaker of the Arabic language 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:23am On Dec 20, 2019 |
malvisguy212:
“We used to recite a surah which
resembled in length and severity to
(Surah) Bara’at. I HAVE, HOWEVER,
FORGOTTEN IT with the exception of this
which I remember out of it: ‘If there
were two valleys full of riches, for the
son of Adam, he would long for a
third valley and nothing would fill the
stomach of the son of Adam but
dust'”. Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.501)
Here we see the evidence for a whole chapter which is missing from the Quran. These evidences from Islamic tradition prove the fact that Quran is incomplete and imperfect. This also raises serious questions about how the rest of the Quran can be trusted to be the true and complete revelation of the true God. Compound liar! Quote the hadith in full! Who is the one narrating the hadith? 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:25am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Moneyboyz:
So you still do not know that Islam came into existence after christainity. Maybe you should read the brief history I posted.
Mohamed On his commercial journeys to Syria and Palestine he became acquainted with Jews and Christians, and acquired an imperfect knowledge of their religion and traditions.
He was a man of retiring disposition, addicted to prayer and fasting, and was subject to epileptic fits. In his fortieth year (A.D. 612), he claimed to have received a call from the Angel Gabriel, and thus began his active career as the prophet of Allah and the apostle of Arabia.
His converts were about forty in all, including his wife, his daughter, his father-in-law Abu Bakr, his adopted son Ali Omar, and his slave Zayd. By his preaching and his attack on heathenism, Mohammed provoked persecution which drove him from Mecca to Medina in 622, the year of the Hejira (Flight) and the beginning of the Mohammedan Era. At Medina he was recognized as the prophet of God, and his followers increased. He took the field against his enemies, conquered several Arabian, Jewish, and Christian tribes, entered Mecca in triumph in 630,
I believe you know the Bible is in existence before him, now tell me how he got the Quran and fed it to his followers.
It's just like every modern day pastor twisting the doctrine to suit themselves and make people follow them.
He may have brainwashed you and you also brainwashing your fellow breathen, history never lies and there are people who never forgets.
Please wise up. Judaism came before Christianity too right? Think before you type. 5 Likes |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Moneyboyz: 10:26am On Dec 20, 2019 |
AntiChristian:
The word Islam الإسلام mentioned 10 times in Quran in 09 verses but your God forgot to mention Christianity once in the whole Bible!
(2:208)
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا ادْخُلُوا فِي السِّلْمِ كَافَّةً
O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy.
(3:19)
إِنَّ الدِّينَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الْإِسْلَامُ
Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them – out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.
(3:85)
وَمَنْ يَبْتَغِ غَيْرَ الْإِسْلَامِ دِينًا فَلَنْ يُقْبَلَ مِنْهُ
And whoever desires other than Islam as religion – never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.
(5:3)
وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِي وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ الْإِسْلَامَ دِينًا
Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin – then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
(6:125)
فَمَنْ يُرِدِ اللَّهُ أَنْ يَهْدِيَهُ يَشْرَحْ صَدْرَهُ لِلْإِسْلَامِ
So whoever Allah wants to guide – He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide – He makes his breast tight and constricted as though he were climbing into the sky. Thus does Allah place defilement upon those who do not believe.
(9:74)
وَلَقَدْ قَالُوا كَلِمَةَ الْكُفْرِ وَكَفَرُوا بَعْدَ إِسْلَامِهِمْ
They swear by Allah that they did not say [anything against the Prophet] while they had said the word of disbelief and disbelieved after their [pretense of] Islam and planned that which they were not to attain. And they were not resentful except [for the fact] that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them of His bounty. So if they repent, it is better for them; but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper.
(39:22)
أَفَمَنْ شَرَحَ اللَّهُ صَدْرَهُ لِلْإِسْلَامِ فَهُوَ عَلَىٰ نُورٍ مِنْ رَبِّهِ
So is one whose breast Allah has expanded to [accept] Islam and he is upon a light from his Lord [like one whose heart rejects it]? Then woe to those whose hearts are hardened against the remembrance of Allah. Those are in manifest error.
(49:17)
يَمُنُّونَ عَلَيْكَ أَنْ أَسْلَمُوا ۖ قُلْ لَا تَمُنُّوا عَلَيَّ إِسْلَامَكُمْ ۖ بَلِ اللَّهُ يَمُنُّ عَلَيْكُمْ أَنْ هَدَاكُمْ لِلْإِيمَانِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ صَادِقِينَ
They consider it a favor to you that they have accepted Islam. Say, “Do not consider your Islam a favor to me. Rather, Allah has conferred favor upon you that He has guided you to the faith, if you should be truthful.
(61:7)
وَمَنْ أَظْلَمُ مِمَّنِ افْتَرَىٰ عَلَى اللَّهِ الْكَذِبَ وَهُوَ يُدْعَىٰ إِلَى الْإِسْلَامِ
And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah untruth while he is being invited to Islam. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.
Sweet jeez, are you this stupid, you said this book is written by a man, so you are saying he didn't include this himself.. someone copied other peoples religion and made it his own, to back it up he made a copy of their holy book. It's all included go make it sound so real and convincing. The Jews whom he copied his religion from are mentioned in the Bible old testament and new testament.. After Christ died they named christainity.. Some followed christainity some stayed Jewish.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by ContractKiller: 10:33am On Dec 20, 2019 |
The quran isn't even a complete book. Even muslim scholars acknowledge this. [img] https://images./33nvz1QR1fBJLqSHhRhSOu.jpg[/img] [img] https://images./2tOrp48HegYifNvAP4Ecbj.jpg[/img] [img] https://images./3WRFDA0mKduzki1Sbdue47.jpg[/img] Rashduct4luv:
Question
Who wrote the Qur’aan and how was it put together?
Answer
Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly:
Allaah has guaranteed to preserve this Qur’aan Himself. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur’aan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”
[al-Hijr 15:9]
Ibn Jareer al-Tabari said in his Tafseer, 14/8:
Allaah is saying, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (Reminder), i.e. the Qur’aan, and We will guard the Qur’aan against anything false being added to it that is not part of it, or anything that is part of it being taken away, whether that has to do with rulings, hudood punishments or matters having to do with inheritance.
Al-Sa’di said in his Tafseer (p. 696):
It is We Who have sent down the Qur’aan in which there is mention of all issues and clear evidence, and in which We remind those who want to be reminded.
“and surely, We will guard it” means, when it is being revealed and after it has been revealed. When it is revealed, We protect it from the tampering of every accursed devil, and after it has been revealed Allaah instilled it in the heart of His Messenger. Allaah protected the words from being changed and from anything being added or taken away, or from its meanings being distorted. So no one can attempt to distort its meanings but Allaah will guide someone to explain the truth of the Qur’aan. This is one of the greatest signs of Allaah and His blessing to His believing slaves. Another aspect of this protection is that Allaah protects the people of the Qur’aan against their enemies, and no enemy can overpower them and eliminate them.
The Qur’aan was revealed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in stages over a period of twenty-three years. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (it is) a Qur’aan which We have divided (into parts), in order that you might recite it to men at intervals. And We have revealed it by stages”
[al-Isra’ 17:106]
Al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
This means, We have revealed this Qur’aan in stages, to differentiate between guidance and misguidance, between truth and falsehood.
“in order that you might recite it to men at intervals” means, slowly, so that they may ponder and think about its meanings, and understand the different branches of knowledge contained therein.
“And We have revealed it by stages” means, gradually, over a period of twenty-three years.
Tafseer al-Sa’di, p. 760.
Secondly:
Literacy was not widespread among the Arabs. Allaah described them in such terms when He said (interpretation of the meaning):
“He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad) from among themselves”
[al-Jumu’ah 63:2]
They used to memorize the Qur’aan by heart, and a few of them used to write down some verses or soorahs on animal skins, thin white stones and the like.
Thirdly:
At first the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade the writing of anything other than the Qur’aan, and he forbade them to write down his words for a while, so that the Sahaabah would focus on memorizing the Qur’aan and writing it down, and so that the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would not be confused with the words of Allaah, and so the Qur’aan was protected from anything being added or taken away.
Fourthly:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) appointed a group of his companions who were trustworthy and knowledgeable to write down the revelation. They are known in their biographies as those who wrote down the Revelation, such as the four Caliphs, ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas, Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan, Zayd ibn Thaabit and others – may Allaah be pleased with them all.
Fifthly:
The Qur’aan was revealed in seven dialects as was narrated in the saheeh hadeeth of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). This was narrated by al-Bukhaari (2287) and Muslim (818); these were the dialects of the Arabs which were known for their eloquence.
Sixthly:
The Qur’aan continued to be preserved in the hearts of the Sahaabah who had memorized it, and on the skins and other materials until the time of the caliph Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him). During the Riddah wars many of the Sahaabah who had memorized the Qur’aan were killed, and Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) was afraid that the Qur’aan would be lost. So he consulted the senior Sahaabah about compiling the Qur’aan in a single book so that it would remain preserved and would not be lost. He entrusted this mission to the chief of memorizers Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him). Al-Bukhaari narrated in his Saheeh (4986) that Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq sent for me when the people of al-Yamaamah had been killed [i.e., a number of the Prophet's Companions who fought against the false prophet Musaylimah]. (I went to him) and found ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab sitting with him. Abu Bakr then said (to me), “ ‘Umar has come to me and said: ‘Casualties were heavy among the Qurra' of the Qur'aan (i.e. those who knew the Qur’aan by heart) on the day of the battle of al-Yamaamah, and I am afraid that more heavy casualties may take place among the Qurra' on other battlefields, whereby a large part of the Qur’aan may be lost. Therefore I suggest that you (Abu Bakr) order that the Qur’aan be collected.” I said to 'Umar, "How can you do something that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do?" 'Umar said, "By Allah, this is something good." 'Umar kept on urging me to accept his proposal till Allaah opened my heart to it and I began to realize the good in the idea which 'Umar had realized." Then Abu Bakr said (to me). “You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). So search for (the fragmentary scripts of) the Qur’aan and compile it in one book." By Allah If they had ordered me to move one of the mountains, it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to compile the Qur’aan. Then I said (to Abu Bakr), "How can you do something that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do?" Abu Bakr replied, "By Allaah, it is a good thing." Abu Bakr kept on urging me to accept his idea until Allaah opened my heart to that to which He had opened the hearts of Abu Bakr and 'Umar. So I started looking for the Qur’aan and collecting it from (what it was written on) palm stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart, until I found the last Verse of Soorat al-Tawbah with Abu Khuzaymah al-Ansaari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him. The verse is (interpretation of the meaning):
"Verily, there has come unto you a Messenger (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty...” [al-Tawbah 9:128] until the end of Soorat Baraa’ah (i.e., al-Tawbah).
Then the complete manuscript (copy) of the Qur’aan remained with Abu Bakr until he died, then with 'Umar until the end of his life, and then with Hafsah, the daughter of 'Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him).
The Sahaabi Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him) knew the Qur’aan by heart but he was methodical in his confirmation; he would not agree to write down any verse until two of the Sahaabah testified that they had heard it from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
This Mus-haf (written copy of the Qur’aan) remained in the hands of the caliphs until the time of the Rightly-Guided Caliph ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan (may Allaah be pleased with him). The Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) had dispersed to different lands, and they used to recite the Qur’aan according to what they had heard of the seven recitations from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and each of their students used to recite according to what he had heard from his shaykh. If a student heard someone reciting in a manner different from what he knew, he would denounce him and accuse him of making a mistake, and this went on until the Sahaabah feared that there would be fitnah (trouble) between the Taabi’een and successive generations. So they thought that they should unite the people in following one recitation, which was in the dialect of Quraysh in which the Qur’aan had first been revealed, so as to dispel any disputes and resolve the matter. ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) was consulted, and he agreed with this opinion.
Al-Bukhaari narrated in his Saheeh (4988) from Anas ibn Maalik that Hudhayfah ibn al-Yamaan came to ‘Uthmaan at the time when the people of Shaam (Syria) and the people of Iraq were waging war to conquer Armenia and Azerbaijan. Hudhayfah was alarmed by their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur’aan, so he said to 'Uthmaan, "O Ameer al-Mu’mineen! Save this nation before they dispute about the Book (Qur’aan) as the Jews and the Christians did before." So 'Uthmaan sent a message to Hafsah saying, "Send us the manuscript of the Qur’aan so that we may make copies of the Mus-haf and we will return the manuscript to you."
Hafsah sent it to 'Uthmaan. Then 'Uthmaan ordered Zayd ibn Thaabit, 'Abdullah ibn al-Zubayr, Sa’eed ibn al-‘Aas and ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Haarith ibn Hishaam to copy out the manuscripts. 'Uthmaan said to the three men who were from Quraysh (the tribe of which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was a member), “In case you disagree with Zayd ibn Thaabit on any point in the Qur’aan, then write it in the dialect of Quraysh, for the Qur’aan was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthmaan returned the original manuscripts to Hafsah.
'Uthmaan sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'aanic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.
Ibn Shihaab said: Khaarijah ibn Zayd ibn Thaabit told me that he heard Zayd ibn Thaabit say: “When we made copies of the Mus-haf I missed a verse of al-Ahzaab that I used to hear the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) recite. So we searched for it and we found it with Khuzaymah ibn Thaabit al-Ansaari. (The verse was) ‘Among the believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allaah’ [al-Ahzaab 33:23 – interpretation of the meaning]. So we put it in its place in its soorah in the Mus-haf.”
Thus an end was put to dispute and the Muslims were united. The Qur’aan has remained and will remain narrated from generation to generation and preserved in men's hearts until the Day of Resurrection. This is how Allaah has preserved His Book, in confirmation of the verse in which He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur’aan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”
[al-Hijr 15:9]
And Allaah knows best.
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| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by AntiChristian: 10:35am On Dec 20, 2019 |
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| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by nutarious(f): 10:35am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Now for people that have quoted me, saying the Quran was memmorized by people 100%.
All you could recommend is Google which I will accept is your personal opinion.
But that's not my arquement.
This single man didn't have a single copy like the suppose Muslims who already had a copy.
Get me well, there was no copy, the memmorized Quran was oral, it was Muhammad that got the verbal Quran and Communicated the words orally to the Congregation over a period of years and as such the ones memmorizing the verbal words didn't write it down
Infact what we heard from proper research is that different students of Muhammad memmorzed different verses of the oral Quran they heard from Muhammad which was lost in the war.
You must be a superb and 100% efficient to store a story fro 20years without forgetting.
But that was not even the case here, this Man calls other remaining students like himself to get the remnants with them and also source from the ones written on bones and caves to get this current one you call Quran
So is not same as memmorizing this one already composed
Virtually, since he called others to get Information from them and also get from caves, then there is absolute proof he didn't retain all in his brain as you would have want us to believe in his super human abilities.
See like I said, lies can be believed to the point of thinking or accepting its true.
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| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by AntiChristian: 10:39am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Moneyboyz:
Sweet jeez, are you this stupid, you said this book is written by a man, so you are saying he didn't include this himself.. someone copied other peoples religion and made it his own, to back it up he made a copy of their holy book. It's all included go make it sound so real and convincing.
The Jews whom he copied his religion from are mentioned in the Bible old testament and new testament..
After Christ died they named christainity..
Some followed christainity some stayed Jewish.. You call me stupid! I will call you Satan just as Jesus called Peter Satan here in the Bible Matthew 16:23Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."You are even foolish too as Jesus said here.Luke 11:40You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?Get behind me Satan! 4 Likes |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by fortran123: 10:41am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv:
Question
Who wrote the Qur’aan and how was it put together?
Answer
Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly:
Allaah has guaranteed to preserve this Qur’aan Himself. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur’aan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”
[al-Hijr 15:9]
Ibn Jareer al-Tabari said in his Tafseer, 14/8:
Allaah is saying, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (Reminder), i.e. the Qur’aan, and We will guard the Qur’aan against anything false being added to it that is not part of it, or anything that is part of it being taken away, whether that has to do with rulings, hudood punishments or matters having to do with inheritance.
Al-Sa’di said in his Tafseer (p. 696):
It is We Who have sent down the Qur’aan in which there is mention of all issues and clear evidence, and in which We remind those who want to be reminded.
“and surely, We will guard it” means, when it is being revealed and after it has been revealed. When it is revealed, We protect it from the tampering of every accursed devil, and after it has been revealed Allaah instilled it in the heart of His Messenger. Allaah protected the words from being changed and from anything being added or taken away, or from its meanings being distorted. So no one can attempt to distort its meanings but Allaah will guide someone to explain the truth of the Qur’aan. This is one of the greatest signs of Allaah and His blessing to His believing slaves. Another aspect of this protection is that Allaah protects the people of the Qur’aan against their enemies, and no enemy can overpower them and eliminate them.
The Qur’aan was revealed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in stages over a period of twenty-three years. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (it is) a Qur’aan which We have divided (into parts), in order that you might recite it to men at intervals. And We have revealed it by stages”
[al-Isra’ 17:106]
Al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
This means, We have revealed this Qur’aan in stages, to differentiate between guidance and misguidance, between truth and falsehood.
“in order that you might recite it to men at intervals” means, slowly, so that they may ponder and think about its meanings, and understand the different branches of knowledge contained therein.
“And We have revealed it by stages” means, gradually, over a period of twenty-three years.
Tafseer al-Sa’di, p. 760.
Secondly:
Literacy was not widespread among the Arabs. Allaah described them in such terms when He said (interpretation of the meaning):
“He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad) from among themselves”
[al-Jumu’ah 63:2]
They used to memorize the Qur’aan by heart, and a few of them used to write down some verses or soorahs on animal skins, thin white stones and the like.
Thirdly:
At first the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade the writing of anything other than the Qur’aan, and he forbade them to write down his words for a while, so that the Sahaabah would focus on memorizing the Qur’aan and writing it down, and so that the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would not be confused with the words of Allaah, and so the Qur’aan was protected from anything being added or taken away.
Fourthly:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) appointed a group of his companions who were trustworthy and knowledgeable to write down the revelation. They are known in their biographies as those who wrote down the Revelation, such as the four Caliphs, ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas, Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan, Zayd ibn Thaabit and others – may Allaah be pleased with them all.
Fifthly:
The Qur’aan was revealed in seven dialects as was narrated in the saheeh hadeeth of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). This was narrated by al-Bukhaari (2287) and Muslim (818); these were the dialects of the Arabs which were known for their eloquence.
Sixthly:
The Qur’aan continued to be preserved in the hearts of the Sahaabah who had memorized it, and on the skins and other materials until the time of the caliph Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him). During the Riddah wars many of the Sahaabah who had memorized the Qur’aan were killed, and Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) was afraid that the Qur’aan would be lost. So he consulted the senior Sahaabah about compiling the Qur’aan in a single book so that it would remain preserved and would not be lost. He entrusted this mission to the chief of memorizers Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him). Al-Bukhaari narrated in his Saheeh (4986) that Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:
Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq sent for me when the people of al-Yamaamah had been killed [i.e., a number of the Prophet's Companions who fought against the false prophet Musaylimah]. (I went to him) and found ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab sitting with him. Abu Bakr then said (to me), “ ‘Umar has come to me and said: ‘Casualties were heavy among the Qurra' of the Qur'aan (i.e. those who knew the Qur’aan by heart) on the day of the battle of al-Yamaamah, and I am afraid that more heavy casualties may take place among the Qurra' on other battlefields, whereby a large part of the Qur’aan may be lost. Therefore I suggest that you (Abu Bakr) order that the Qur’aan be collected.” I said to 'Umar, "How can you do something that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do?" 'Umar said, "By Allah, this is something good." 'Umar kept on urging me to accept his proposal till Allaah opened my heart to it and I began to realize the good in the idea which 'Umar had realized." Then Abu Bakr said (to me). “You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). So search for (the fragmentary scripts of) the Qur’aan and compile it in one book." By Allah If they had ordered me to move one of the mountains, it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to compile the Qur’aan. Then I said (to Abu Bakr), "How can you do something that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do?" Abu Bakr replied, "By Allaah, it is a good thing." Abu Bakr kept on urging me to accept his idea until Allaah opened my heart to that to which He had opened the hearts of Abu Bakr and 'Umar. So I started looking for the Qur’aan and collecting it from (what it was written on) palm stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart, until I found the last Verse of Soorat al-Tawbah with Abu Khuzaymah al-Ansaari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him. The verse is (interpretation of the meaning):
"Verily, there has come unto you a Messenger (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty...” [al-Tawbah 9:128] until the end of Soorat Baraa’ah (i.e., al-Tawbah).
Then the complete manuscript (copy) of the Qur’aan remained with Abu Bakr until he died, then with 'Umar until the end of his life, and then with Hafsah, the daughter of 'Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him).
The Sahaabi Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him) knew the Qur’aan by heart but he was methodical in his confirmation; he would not agree to write down any verse until two of the Sahaabah testified that they had heard it from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
This Mus-haf (written copy of the Qur’aan) remained in the hands of the caliphs until the time of the Rightly-Guided Caliph ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan (may Allaah be pleased with him). The Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) had dispersed to different lands, and they used to recite the Qur’aan according to what they had heard of the seven recitations from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and each of their students used to recite according to what he had heard from his shaykh. If a student heard someone reciting in a manner different from what he knew, he would denounce him and accuse him of making a mistake, and this went on until the Sahaabah feared that there would be fitnah (trouble) between the Taabi’een and successive generations. So they thought that they should unite the people in following one recitation, which was in the dialect of Quraysh in which the Qur’aan had first been revealed, so as to dispel any disputes and resolve the matter. ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) was consulted, and he agreed with this opinion.
Al-Bukhaari narrated in his Saheeh (4988) from Anas ibn Maalik that Hudhayfah ibn al-Yamaan came to ‘Uthmaan at the time when the people of Shaam (Syria) and the people of Iraq were waging war to conquer Armenia and Azerbaijan. Hudhayfah was alarmed by their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur’aan, so he said to 'Uthmaan, "O Ameer al-Mu’mineen! Save this nation before they dispute about the Book (Qur’aan) as the Jews and the Christians did before." So 'Uthmaan sent a message to Hafsah saying, "Send us the manuscript of the Qur’aan so that we may make copies of the Mus-haf and we will return the manuscript to you."
Hafsah sent it to 'Uthmaan. Then 'Uthmaan ordered Zayd ibn Thaabit, 'Abdullah ibn al-Zubayr, Sa’eed ibn al-‘Aas and ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Haarith ibn Hishaam to copy out the manuscripts. 'Uthmaan said to the three men who were from Quraysh (the tribe of which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was a member), “In case you disagree with Zayd ibn Thaabit on any point in the Qur’aan, then write it in the dialect of Quraysh, for the Qur’aan was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthmaan returned the original manuscripts to Hafsah.
'Uthmaan sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'aanic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.
Ibn Shihaab said: Khaarijah ibn Zayd ibn Thaabit told me that he heard Zayd ibn Thaabit say: “When we made copies of the Mus-haf I missed a verse of al-Ahzaab that I used to hear the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) recite. So we searched for it and we found it with Khuzaymah ibn Thaabit al-Ansaari. (The verse was) ‘Among the believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allaah’ [al-Ahzaab 33:23 – interpretation of the meaning]. So we put it in its place in its soorah in the Mus-haf.”
Thus an end was put to dispute and the Muslims were united. The Qur’aan has remained and will remain narrated from generation to generation and preserved in men's hearts until the Day of Resurrection. This is how Allaah has preserved His Book, in confirmation of the verse in which He says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur’aan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”
[al-Hijr 15:9]
And Allaah knows best.
Source It was plagiarized from several sources. From religious books available at mohammed's time. It even contain poems stolen from Imrau'l Qais. Cos it was taken from various sources that explains the historical inaccuracies like Jesus being the nephew of Moses, Abraham's father's name is "foolish"etc 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by advocatejare(m): 10:43am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv:
I don't think there's any point responding to you any longer. Since you accused me of telling lies! Brother, if you agree and accept that Mary the mother and Jesus is different from Miriam the sister of Aaron, it means you are saying that the Quran got it wrong because the author of the Quran confused the two. Read Sura Maryam (Quran 19:27-29) فَأَتَتْ بِهِۦ قَوْمَهَا تَحْمِلُهُۥ ۖ قَالُوا يٰمَرْيَمُ لَقَدْ جِئْتِ شَيْئًا فَرِيًّا "Then she brought him to her people, carrying him. They said, O Mary, you have certainly done a thing unprecedented." (QS. Maryam 19: Verse 27) يٰٓأُخْتَ هٰرُونَ مَا كَانَ أَبُوكِ امْرَأَ سَوْءٍ وَمَا كَانَتْ أُمُّكِ بَغِيًّا " O sister of Aaron , your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste." (QS. Maryam 19: Verse 28) Have you seen now that the Author of the Quran mixed everything up? 5 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by BigBizzy(m): 10:53am On Dec 20, 2019 |
Who wrote the Koran is a simple question...all these long epistle...are they needed? 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Nobody: 10:57am On Dec 20, 2019 |
BigBizzy:
Who wrote the Koran is a simple question...all these long epistle...are they needed? If you can't read, get the out of here 1 Like |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Alennsar(f): 10:58am On Dec 20, 2019 |
OfficialAPCNig:
Simple questions for your coconut head
1. Was the Koran compiled by zayd?
2. The compilation started 20 years after the death of Mohammed. True or false?
3. Were the companion that memorized the Koran not massacred in a battle?
4. To compile the Koran didn't zayd rely on the testimonies of few of the survivors of Mohammed companions?
5. Is it possible for someone to memorize 6,400 verses of a prose over 20 years without mixing up things?
6. Didn't Zayd also reference verses of the Koran written 20 years ago on leafstalk, caves and animal collar bones to compile the Koran?
7. Zayd wasn't able to salvage all the written verses of Koran when compiling the Koran. True or false?
8. Mary the mother of Jesus is not the same person as Miriam the sister ofAaron. True or false?
9. When zayd compiled his Koran, different versions of the Koran exists. True or false.
10. Was it not the caliph that ordered the ummah to burn and bury every copies of the koranthry had and use only zayd copy? You asked if it's possible to. Memorize 6, 400 words of hand but we see 6yrz and above in our own time who have memorize the complete Quran. We are not like the Christian who carry their Bible every where but did not know that which it contains. My daughter is five years old but she can read many surah off hand without mixing words. 6 Likes |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Moneyboyz: 10:59am On Dec 20, 2019 |
AntiChristian:
You call me stupid! I will call you Satan just as Jesus called Peter Satan here in the Bible
Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
You are even foolish too as Jesus said here.
Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?
Get behind me Satan! If you are so anti Christain, why are you a Muslim which is clearly copied from both christainity and Judaism. You are confused, you are saying Mohamed did not kill anyone right? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Rashduct4luv(m): 11:02am On Dec 20, 2019 |
advocatejare:
Brother, if you agree and accept that Mary the mother and Jesus is different from Miriam the sister of Aaron, it means you are saying that the Quran got it wrong because the author of the Quran confused the two.
Read Sura Maryam (Quran 19:27-29)
فَأَتَتْ بِهِۦ قَوْمَهَا تَحْمِلُهُۥ ۖ قَالُوا يٰمَرْيَمُ لَقَدْ جِئْتِ شَيْئًا فَرِيًّا
"Then she brought him to her people, carrying him. They said, O Mary, you have certainly done a thing unprecedented."
(QS. Maryam 19: Verse 27)
يٰٓأُخْتَ هٰرُونَ مَا كَانَ أَبُوكِ امْرَأَ سَوْءٍ وَمَا كَانَتْ أُمُّكِ بَغِيًّا
" O sister of Aaron , your father was not a man of evil, nor was your mother unchaste."
(QS. Maryam 19: Verse 28)
Have you seen now that the Author of the Quran mixed everything up?
The Christians at the time of the Prophet objected to this verse on the grounds that it was meant literally, but the Prophet answered their question.Mughira ibn Shu’ba reported: When I came to Najran, the Christian monks asked me, “You recite the verse: O sister of Aaron (19:28), whereas Moses was born long before Jesus by such-and-such years.” When I came back to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, I asked him about it and he said: إِنَّهُمْ كَانُوا يُسَمُّونَ بِأَنْبِيَائِهِمْ وَالصَّالِحِينَ قَبْلَهُمْ Verily, they would name people with the names of prophets and righteous people who had gone before them.
[/b]Source: Sahih Muslim 2135, Grade: Sahih
Ibn Kathir reported:
علي بن أبي طلحة والسدي قيل لها يٰأُخْتَ هَـٰرُونَ أي أخي موسى وكانت من نسله
Alli ibn Abu Talha and As-Suddi said: It was said to her: O sister of Aaron (19:28), meaning the brother of Moses because she was from among his descendants.
Ibn Kathir added:
كما يقال للتميمي يا أخا تميم وللمضري يا أخا مضر
This is like saying to somebody from the Tamimi tribe: O brother of at-Tamim, or to somebody from the al-Mudari tribe: O brother of Mudar.
Source: Tafseer Ibn Kathir, verse 19:28
[b]Muhammad Asad comments on the verse, saying:In ancient Semitic usage, a person’s name was often linked with that of a renowned ancestor or founder of the tribal line. Thus, for instance, a man of the tribe of Banu Tamim was sometimes addressed as “son of Tamim” or “brother of Tamim.” Since Mary belonged to the priestly caste, and hence descended from Aaron, the brother of Moses, she was called a “sister of Aaron,” in the same way as her cousin Elizabeth, the wife of Zachariah, is spoken of in Luke 1:5 as one of “the daughters of Aaron.”Source: Message of the Quran Therefore, the verse is not a historical mistake, but rather it is in perfect agreement with the Semitic languages and ancient custom.Success comes from Allah, and Allah knows best. 6 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by Nobody: 11:09am On Dec 20, 2019 |
nutarious:
Now for people that have quoted me, saying the Quran was memmorized by people 100%.
All you could recommend is Google which I will accept is your personal opinion.
But that's not my arquement.
This single man didn't have a single copy like the suppose Muslims who already had a copy.
Get me well, there was no copy, the memmorized Quran was oral, it was Muhammad that got the verbal Quran and Communicated the words orally to the Congregation over a period of years and as such the ones memmorizing the verbal words didn't write it down
Infact what we heard from proper research is that different students of Muhammad memmorzed different verses of the oral Quran they heard from Muhammad which was lost in the war.
You must be a superb and 100% efficient to store a story fro 20years without forgetting.
But that was not even the case here, this Man calls other remaining students like himself to get the remnants with them and also source from the ones written on bones and caves to get this current one you call Quran
So is not same as memmorizing this one already composed
Virtually, since he called others to get Information from them and also get from caves, then there is absolute proof he didn't retain all in his brain as you would have want us to believe in his super human abilities.
See like I said, lies can be believed to the point of thinking or accepting its true.
Just illusion Baseless points, he called others to assist him in composing the Qur'an. He just wouldn't write it all by himself even if he could. It is also said that there were writing forms, so they just compare with what they've written. And most importantly, God Almighty, the creator of all mankind Guides them. That's is enough. Meanwhile, there are millions of hafeez around the world, that can write the whole Qur'an. 3 Likes |
