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| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 4:20pm On Feb 14, 2020 |
macof:Lol! As usual, the ignorant you have begun with a typical vulgar provocative term , yet you have not for once provided any sane historical account of Africans that proof Africa as the source of Subshara as the heart of Civilization . Gobekli Temple in Turkey is even older than Egyptian oldest Temple in Memphis  . The Egyptians civilization in Memphis, was called, ‘Hwt-Ka-Ptah' ("Mansion of the Spirit of Ptah" , before Greek pronunciation called the name Egypt after the conqueror's name , Aegyptos. So, what is the hullabaloo about Near East ?Infact, Yoruba historians of high reputation have never outrightly claimed the place of origin of Yoruba in any indigenous place in Africa, except knowledge of IleIfe,which exist, only in Yoruba lexicon and not in any group in Africa but exist in Near East.So, and never threw away the possibility of Near East Origin because, what has been documented had oral influence in it through Ifaodu corpus. In fact, all of these historians have can't understand classic semitic pictographs or classic Hebrew language that has been established in present day as I have posited that there were a people called Odudua group with a distinct ideology and came with a leader, married the aborigine and imposed their authority and culture on the aboriginal negroid people whom they met and fused with them. Therefore, there is no iota of doubt that you remained unstable and I will expose your lack of knowledge in Yoruba language, as I have promised you through your poor interpretation of the names of Yoruba ancestors which you can't decipher. Yet you posit here as a fraud does. Here are the question you need answer as follow: 1. Have no knowledge of a Sumerian culture and foundation of cuneiform writing that begun in Mesopotamia before Egypt ? 2. Have you no knowledge that Classic Semitic writing is different to Egyptians when Phonecian and Hebrew alphabet existed side by side in Mesopotamia ? 3. Have you no knowledge that Phoenician and classic Hebrew alphabets parted ways slightly through migration and enslavement? 4. Have you no knowledge that Ora, is a name amongst even present day Israelis who can't even speak the classic Hebrew because it said to nonexistence anymore? 5. Have you no knowledge that skin disorder, food,weather were the factors that led to different human colour? 6. Have you no knowledge that no ethnic group used oru(n) , meaning sunlight as same is found in Near East's Semitic language's Or/ Ur, in Subsahara Africa. 7. Have you no knowledge that no group in West Africa had ever worn a faze cap as seen Ooni does as found in Near East during antiquity ? 8. Have you no knowledge that no West Africa group apart Yoruba's kings such as Ooni ever worn a head gear as the one being worn in antiquity in Egypt, Near East and beyond ? 9. Have you no knowledge that using birds feathers being attache to the Ooni's crown front view is only of Yoruba's and Near East's monarchy? 10.Have you no knowledge that Yoruba ethnic group is the most researched entity in Africa and the world because, their history is seen as unique and rich in culture ? Note: I know you are dead intellectually to studying . And like I have inferred earlier, I will expose your fraud as the one who has no conversant knowledg with Yoruba language at all. . |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 5:13pm On Feb 14, 2020 |
macof:Mr macof nothing like Africa stop generalizing Africa as one we are so diverse.. that's the problem. our region is the birth place of human we evolve at different rate and different homind evolved to be come modern human also lot of back migration in to the region .. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by geosegun(m): 9:59pm On Feb 14, 2020 |
Obalufon: The new findings below sounds quite interesting to me. My thoughts, though vaguely, is saying some revelations are about to be made. Searches are narrowing down to West Africa now - the next will be South West Nigeria. and a final revelation close to IFE which may possibly will be the 'bomb'. ..and to say the group of people listed all have common ancestry to Yorubas and Ile Ife. This is truly coming home. " A mysterious "ghost population" of now-extinct ancient human-like creatures may have interbred with early humans living in West Africa, scientists say. Researchers suggest DNA from this group makes up between 2% and 19% of modern West Africans' genetic ancestry. They believe the interbreeding occurred about 43,000 years ago. Scientists found links to the Mende people of Sierra Leone, Yoruba as well as Esan people in Nigeria, plus other groups in western areas of The Gambia." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/science-environment-51508616 Now the knowledge of Ifa will now explode and made more acceptable in the world at large. There was ifa corpus that says, Dudu lagba, Funfun/pups ni aburo ( Black/Brown skin is the eldest while white/pink is the junior. The same Ifa states that expansion start from Ife. It may as well refer to Yoruba race alone or the entire world race? Only time will tell. cc: @Olu317; @absolutesucess; @Obalufon; @macof; @nlposter; e t c... |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 2:44am On Feb 15, 2020 |
geosegun: Yoruba traditions are quite clear that humanity started from them, however Yoruba centric and bias this might be it does say a lot about the reality of yoruba origin and what the people think of themselves. And most scholars have realised that the traditions are not to be ignored, as today traditional relics are held in highest esteem as primary sources for Yoruba historical research and you will find many students of history and African/Yoruba studies diving into some element of Isese, what was almost absent some decades ago when the educated class saw these traditions as too vulgar and sometimes referred to them as demonic due to religious indoctrination. Recent genetic studies has kept showing that the modern Yoruba as with most West Africans are descended from populations who have long settled in West Africa and not from populations from the Southern Africa or East Africa and certainly not the Middle East but modern Middle Eastern and East African genetic analysis often show traces of dna that come from outside their region. The East African Cradle of Humanity argument is of course a good one and still valid due to more fossil discoveries and geographical factors but it is interesting to think about the implications of some of these new discoveries like the oldest Homo sapiens bones found in Morocco not anywhere in East Africa Articles like the one you shared also raises the thought or question: how is it that Africans are the most genetically diverse yet share the most common genetic lineages if not through either 1. paleolithic Africans splitting from one population or 2. Unrelated African populations mixing Take a look at the spread of typical Y-DNA in Africa like E-M2 haplogroup and E-V68 haplogroup they ultimately share common lineage You might find this interesting "In the new study, published in Nature, the researchers reported that modern humans diverged into four major populations between 200,000 and 250,000 years ago. One of those populations is new to scientists; few traces of it remain in the DNA of living Africans. The vanished population may have consisted of bands of hunter-gatherers who lived south of the Sahara from Mali to Sudan until just a few thousand years ago". https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/science/ancient-dna-africa.html And whenever I think of Sahara a few thousand years ago, I imagine a green sahara whose desertification must have driven populations towards the Nile to the north and the Niger to the south |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 5:28am On Feb 15, 2020 |
Olu317: Alright bro. It might be a bit difficult to absorb all the points without a rudder at the top. How we got to do? Dealing with a very confusing inputs like transcultural translations and word relativity can be cumbersome. Let's use the cognate principles to make things a bit clearer. True cognates false friends Alefa in Yoruba is 'true cognate false friend' with Alefa in Arabic language. Both sounds the same way but have different meaning. The implications of this is that, both have the same word in their parent language but absorb the same idea differently into their languages. The Yoruba Alefa has to do with the throne. And the closest sound to that in Arabic is khalifa. Bringing these three terms closer start the process of linguistic rediscovery. Understanding khalifa's meaning help threw more light on the true meaning of Alefa. The former means ascention, which is what Alefa portrayed too. One 'ascends' to the 'throne'. Ascention to the throne is a process of becoming an alpha, Aleph, Olofin, Alaafin, Aluf, and Olufe, which is though shaded off sound but yet a valid entry in this linguistic progression. Even the term ooni is borne of the same stretch: ooni means 'owning', but looking at its other shade like onini, it's like oghene, okini, ekini, eni, first, timely. That's the clutters for alpha. Calque The term is for the translation of a word from one language into another language. So both never shared the same sound but have the same meaning. Here, Alefa in Yoruba had become Alefa in Arabic or vice versa. The value of the Arabic Alefa in Yoruba is 'olore', but that interpretation never explained it. Can we know why? It's ad-hoc, I just made a translation. That's the difference. It's not a translation we are dealing with right now but antique equivalent of another antique word that goes wayyyy back. Then one needs to go through rubbles of tradition and fetch marching ideas that speaks exactly the same sense as perfect as possible. That's the bull's eye approach, rather than ad-hoc approach. Hence we have Abore. This means 'a-bi-ore'. Does that word registered to some ideology in Yoruba's? Of course. It's how the priest is known. Fine, it could be any priest, what we needed we already have, a pristine idea to confirm an ancient source for the word in question. How words were created Alefa in Arabic sense of the word is calque for Abore in Yoruba. If that be the case, aafa, Alufa, are words that are really rooted in Yoruba. How does that came to be? Aafa and Alufa are variants of 'alpha' in Yoruba. Yet we leant earlier that Aluf gradually produced the word for teacher: that's how this claim happened in Yoruba: Aluf, Alufa. Aluf as guide (the true meaning of Alufa as implied in Islamic teacher by the Yoruba) is Hebrew, and was the word translated as 'guide' in Psalm 55:13. So 'Alfa mi' means my guide. So, a Yoruba word trace back to the root of all the source of the variants adopted by neighbors. This is a remote validation for the Seir claim I've shared. The Yoruba know the root word. Alufa is Yoruba for the teacher, while Abore is reserved for the priest. Another word Alore is 'hospitable', the variant of Abore. Hospitable is another meaning to Alefa in Arabic. It's also a very valid argument that Abore is not a happenstance, it's variant, Alore is also utilised by religion as bearer of good things or having friends: Alore, ani-ore, a-loore. Then how come Alore/Abore is the entry used to designate the priest and not something else? Because the Yoruba wordsmiths were thinking from home, Aramaic. An indeginous example When I was a child, we do go to village to celebrate sallah (ileya), we the children go in search of firewood for roasting the animal on the D-Day. My mom is from the egun stock of Ado, and my older cousins scare us back then as kids that if we wound out the scrotum of the ram as it is burning we would have 'avungoe'. For this, I hated the scrotum of the ram. But having grown up I knew they were trying to stop us from messing up the ram as we used to do then. We normally squize off the ear and other parts of the ram as it's burning and chew it, then the fat goes to our sticks and we grill and enjoy it. Recently, my fav is the limb, wife noticed the scrotum of the goat (ogunfe) and I told her what it is. She detest eating that part. I was left to eating the forbidden. One day while eating it, childhood came back to me and I said 'atoquin' to myself. That's what the egun called what the Yoruba call epon, scrotum. Atoquin is a combination of two words, one Yoruba, and the other, egun. I don't know how it came about but the word formed is crucial. Atoquin simply means 'sperm knot'. It's bringing two words together from different source that the coiner is familiar with but which the adoptee is unfamiliar with. Ato means sperm: but it's close proximity with atom, the basic unit of life in animals speaks volumes. Atom is the basic unit of everything in nature. From this the Greek idea of atom stemmed. The common word application means that there was once a linguistic connection before the world became very complex. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 1:59pm On Feb 15, 2020 |
geosegun:I do agree slightly with this finding of yours which is credited to the researchers, Arun Durvasula and Sriram Sankararaman of the University of California, Los Angeles, published in the journal Science Advance, where they sequenced the genomes of people from four modern West African populations,which is seen as mysterious groups that interbred with Mende and Yoruba, because I know Yoruba did interbred with some Nok people at a point in time in history but 43,000 years ago of ghost population can't be connected to all Yoruba groups because, the Iwo Eleru excavation of fossil human does not support connection with Yoruba ancestors or modern Yorubas and it is less than 15,000± years ago. Furthermore, interbreeding easily change the status of one's DNA, though oral account through Ifaodu have a lot of information that can be tapped for more explanation.So, it is interesting to affirm here that Yorubas are distinct people but fused together by Ifaodu religion which I conclude to be a Coptic Christianity. I have knowledge of classic semitic language of Hebrew and Coptic Christian that lived in both Near East and Egypt. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 10:31pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
[quote author=geosegun post=86657397] The new findings below sounds quite interesting to me. My thoughts, though vaguely, is saying some revelations are about to be made. Searches are narrowing down to West Africa now - the next will be South West Nigeria. and a final revelation close to IFE which may possibly will be the 'bomb'. ..and to say the group of people listed all have common ancestry to Yorubas and Ile Ife. This is truly coming home. " A mysterious "ghost population" of now-extinct ancient human-like creatures may have interbred with early humans living in West Africa, scientists say. [/qoute] My brother, this is a very weird stuff.  Why not make this the ancestors of the Indo-European people? They can always drop such shiit here in the name of science. They have a choice though, we are still searching for the great ape such as predicted by Darwin.
We are indeed a sick population. Every junk dropped on BBC with scientific label addressed to us should not arouse interest as though we're attention deficit lot. We need some growing up to catch up with.
The bolded: the entry of the Yoruba into the faculty of social sciences to study philosophy don't make a Greek man rejoice, (that philosophy will now enjoy worldwide patronage. So also if the world should come to the full knowledge of Ifa, because as a people, we are meant to be greater than our ancestors, not to always live in their shadows. We have a lot to offer mankind. Knowledge is like accumulation of facts, every fact is salient. Scientific history implies that historical events can be repeated. By implication, what we have in Ifa is present in other popular body of knowledge found elsewhere in the world. If Ifa is not presently enjoying the accolades that it deserves, it means the Yoruba have not done much to improve the intangible human artifact in their cofer. A white man coming into town know what he's looking for. I don't think I need help knowing my ancestors through him. It's clear that the "imperial - research" is another "ad-hoc phenotypic theory", but as for me, my ancestors were not "ghosts" who lived 43,000 years ago without trace. You can always create "history" for folks without a clear cut history "scientifically". It's left to them to warm up to embrace what they were called hook line and sinker. We are better than a pawn in the hand of science, but we are no better when we don't know any better, we are a mere laboratory specimen in the hand of the scientist. Why not the BBC syndicating a serial documentary "about Ifa, the religion of the Yoruba ancestors?" So we should not always be the ones to consume all the stuffs emanating from their end with ectacy, At the end, it serves their ends, not yours. Good evening bro. 1 Like |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 1:14am On Feb 17, 2020 |
One way to know a con is that they are quick to dismiss research and evidence But want to sell fantasy they create as truth Ask a con for evidence and he would cry a river Provide a con with evidence and he would dismiss it as nonsense without giving it a thought This whole Hebrew claim is just con We would expect that before you dismiss genetic research as nonsense you must have some experience in genetic research or any scientific reasons for that But it does not surprise me as this is just how you dismiss historical and linguistic research from scholars as nonsense to make up your own from your imaginations. I still remember you calling Prof. Banji Akintoye negative names because of his position on yoruba not having middle eastern origin The whole band of Hebrew wannabes continually exposing the lack of qualities needed to discuss Yoruba origin or any topic of historical proportions for that matter |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 1:17am On Feb 17, 2020 |
macof: This is called "fallacy of safe assumptions". We cannot "transform" a myth invented in the last few centuries into "world history" because we needed to be full of "self-esteem". By so doing, everywhere is the center of the universe and history ought to be 'how mankind is unidentical with one another'. But every myth of creation in the world is a cultural tradition. You can't transfer a cultural tradition into a world history. You should know that if you had critique the Bible by yourself. I don't have to help you to that.
By this token, your course on history is inconclusive. Most of all, you are neither a genetist nor a paleontologist: you have a long time to wait. If the theory of the origin of the human species in East Africa is not corroborated by the fossils in East Africa but somewhere else, does that same theory holds? At the bolded, you failed to make a clear statement at the core of your argument. Kindly clarify what you intended to say.
The claims stated here says "the researchers" and we never got to know any authoritative source to hold responsible should we have to validate the claim. That's "lying by statistics" in psychology. The divergent view of mankind is Mongoloids, Caucassoid and Negroid, the new one is "the vanished ancestors": maybe our own neandathals. How do we pin down our shared dna to a population we are yet to contact? What rounded up this phenotype for extinction? Where are the fossils to validate this time framed claim? How scientific is this scientific claim?
My brother, is this all you hold dear as Holy Grail that is impermissible of anyone else's claim on Yoruba history? In all of this, linguistic did not play out nor a recourse to indeginous tradition. The people do not have the qualifications to contribute to the writing of the details of their history when the "scientists" steps in. What do they know? |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 1:32am On Feb 17, 2020 |
absoluteSuccess:reread the post, most of your questions are answered in both the post and the articles shared by geosegun and I. Seek to understand and reduce your obssesion with Hebrews, because the information shared does not imply Hebrew connection you are quick to jump on it thinking you are delivering an intelligent critic .. Without even reading properly. Like your first critic to my comment on yoruba traditions of origin being local is made clear in my post obviously you weren't reading to understand And finally.. don't make conclusions for people Don't assume my position on the matter has been fully expressed in one post. I don't rant or post everything I know on a topic in a single post |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 1:44am On Feb 17, 2020 |
macof: I've been here for some time and know your smart games. Take time to digest my post and supply your feedback. The reason you are weeping that I keep on talking about the Hebrew is more mill to the grill. You should have something to complain about. Already you know I'm a leader, so why should I expect anyone to have done what I'm doing? I will rather reduce your invalid claims to shreds. People reading know how to deduce inference. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 1:51am On Feb 17, 2020 |
absoluteSuccess:I already gave feedback. You failed to comprehend the material you want to criticise You're a leader? nobody has done what you are doing? What are you doing? Inventing stories in your head of Yoruba migration from the middle east?Sorry to burst that bubble but people have been doing that since the early days of Islam in Yorùbáland. So you saying Yoruba migrated from the middle east is not new I am always open to be proven wrong. A favor I have done for you repeatedly by repeatedly exposing you as a fraud and a quark with no knowledge of the topic he likes to discuss |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 2:27am On Feb 17, 2020 |
macof: macof: Your claims can be anything to you, but you can never get anywhere near the history of the Yoruba that you really love to suppress. When you are cornered, you start to boast of your self importance for doing nothing Permit me to state this here, I was on Lagos island on Saturday and walked to the entrance of the Obas palace. A poster caught my attention. It announces the death of "Olori Ebi Eletu Iwase" Pa AbdulrasakIsola, aged 93 years. When I made a post the last time, you said it's funny. Well, my claim is validated by this tradition. Oriki Eletu Iwase Omo odiyan Omo Ogun niwase Omo arofoba b'egun Omo aseu mapekan Omo apekan ma f'obinrinje Omo afelele wole oba Omo Erin obeji Erinbeji o yaso Omo oyinbo f'oju orun Sona Eye f'oju orun sorere Omo Oro sese niba Omo ibini arokuntayo Ogbono igbado ota. I have no access to this oriki when I made the claim that the Edo have a tradition of Odion and Akere, which establish a valid case for Yoruba and Edo being twins at the onset of time. And that if that tradition should be repeated in Yoruba, Odion will become Odiyan, that is, "one who preferred pounded yam". Then Akere will be Yoruba for "one who claimed the blessings". You can share the oral tradition that validate your claims here. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 3:06pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
absoluteSuccess:reading meanings into things that don't exist. You went to a funeral and read the family oriki off the funeral booklet and now you think that you've cracked the code of the century on yoruba and edo origin through one family's oriki without giving due consideration to the implications of your claim Not only do you totally misread the oriki as telling of yoruba and edo origin rather than telling of the family origin (that is from Bini) . Now you've gotten no information that can be used to know the family better (what the oriki is intended for in the first place) because of your obsession with trying to connect with Hebrews. Not to mention how you attempt to get Yoruba meanings out of Edo names Where you did not find a sly Hebrew connection with Taiwo and Kehinde you want to connect Odion and Akhere to Yoruba then declare Israel as Akhere to be Yoruba and Edom as Odion to be Edo It's interesting but just fiction not history because you have not provided any historical context by which this one family oriki can refer to Yoruba and Edo origin from the middle east And what makes you think Odiyan in Lagos is referring to the "eldest twin" in Edo language ? It is not implied in the oriki And to reach such conclusion you should have a logical reason |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by kayfra: 3:41pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
macof: That is one crazy dude He needs to be locked up in Israel for real |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 4:35pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
kayfra: He would be so happy to finally be in his ancestral land |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 4:50pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
you've finally taken over the thread with your bantu people please go and create ibo forum |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by kayfra: 5:10pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
macof: I'd like to see him and Ehud sharing Orikis |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 6:55pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
kayfra:Bantu blood, I salute you |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 7:02pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
Olu317: |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 7:09pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
ibos in the 50s .no point in history yoruba were like this..bantu 1 Like 1 Share
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| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 7:12pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
picture taken by frobenius .over hundred years ago
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| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 7:27pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
macof:Sometimes, I wonder if you're actually read ,with your dubious information. macof says, ‘Going by my limited knowledge , I would say Ebora is a generic term for all "unseen beings". See me see professor . So, macof do have limited knowledge? macof says, ‘I have heard Esu refered to as an Ebora. Yemoja as an Ebora...and when these two can be Ebora then all Orisha in certain context are Ebora'. Ebi Ora,Abi Ora,E bo O ra; O Ra mfe, Ora, Ra :- remain self explanatory. Go to school?You refused because you claim, you are all in all. Perhaps, you need to know the complexity of Orunmiela to understand who Eshu is. Orumiela is Ora. Go study. ‘Read Myth of IFe'. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Obalufon: 7:44pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
Olu317:esu is not ebora ebora is unseen force or being, spirit 1 Like |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 8:28pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
Olu317: Obalufon: If you have anything to say about my comments on ebora go to that thread and point them out. Use your head and stop requiring me to tell you the proper things to do Not when you run out of things to say you start ranting stupidly |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 10:07pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
Obalufon:I know that precisely. I am making mockery of macof who enjoys posting trash online, as if he knows anything. A man who practically knows little but claim he knows a lot about Yoruba people's history. macof, the Professor ! |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 11:44pm On Feb 17, 2020 |
macof:How can I run out of idea because of a lazy you who practically knows nothing about what my research is all about. If you think ancient language is easy,then kindly pick up interest in it and go study it. Anyway, my intention is to focus on work, though using this platform to expose people like to the might of Yoruba ancestors from time immemorial Professor, I am not like you that posts incoherent information online for cheap popularity. Perhaps, you didn't read much on African history during your hay days at the tertiary institution because authors on Yoruba history claimed Yoruba ancestors arrived here in Caravans.Therefore, stop misleading people by claiming Yoruba had no migrants status. Besides, these overrated knowledge of yours is the reason that you lacked being studious. 1.Do you know that oka baba is also a cognate in Classic Hebrew ? Assignment 2. Do you even know some beads found in IleIfe have some that were of 12th-14th century of India origin in Asia? Perhaps, the Yoruba ancestors teleported themselves around 12th-14th to bring it to Yoruba land in Nigeria.Abeg, go study macof. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 12:15am On Feb 18, 2020 |
Olu317: You are an uneducated ignorant mofo and you know it stop hyping your failed life it's so distasteful You have no skill in linguistics or palaeography or any form of historical irrelevant discipline, I have exposed your so called cognates to be random, forced and delusional It is your kind that would say Alaba and Alabama are cognates if you thought it would help you in your claims of Hebrew-Yoruba connection A so called expert who doesn't make use of etymology You see two words that look similar and boom, you call them cognates just like that If only a semi-illiterate like yourself were so qualified what do we need studies and academic qualifications for PS. @bold I know you have nothing but I will still ask.. Provide the names, books and pages were you got that from |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 12:38am On Feb 18, 2020 |
macof: When your education told you your ancestors were Hunter gatherers, did you meet with them before you agree that it's the Holy Grail of your genetic makeup? You went to school and got educated about this kind of thinking, taking it to mean the "history" that should be enshrined in the consciousness of the people because it's "history" to you.
I have offered you the oriki, you can employ it to make a point you deem fit. You have not brought up the fact ab initio, so what you do Is play catch up, I don't need to play catch up with you. Just keep trailing me, don't give me directions. Akii siwaju eleede peede.
I see. I don't border about putting up a "perfect history" bro, but a plausible linguistic study of the materials in the Yoruba intellectual culture that is repeated in the Middle East. Then you can make your conclusions. As you can see, I am not your rival. You have it figured out already, you are the historian. I'm just a man making annotations from repertoires of curious human intellectualism that Green Sahara failed to restrict from spreading till today. Great scientific findings comes forth when the mind is not haunted by overbearing individuals with megalomaniac and neurotic tendencies to further the frontiers of knowledge available to man. Neurotic never enjoy a moment of peace.
Maybe you couldn't fathom it, it's there. Remember when I asked you to make a categorical statement on the phenotype flux, you won't repeat yourself because you know the implication. You are not ready to conclude that the Yoruba is Bantu but is admixture with Bantu, being unable to establish a simple connection for the group you choose for yourself comfortably for years and always going in circles. Yet you know how to make it impossible for others to make plausible claims in the area you reckon as taboo. that's not my reason for not responding here. Rather, your question here is questioning your intellectual capabilities and your non Yoruba background. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by absoluteSuccess: 12:41am On Feb 18, 2020 |
kayfra: LOL, Youu must not be serious. |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by macof(m): 3:16am On Feb 18, 2020 |
absoluteSuccess: A simple summary of what a con and a fraud is. 1. You have admitted that you lack the education and qualifications.. That's not something you can lie about for too long anyway but to call education useless exposes you as a con. 2. You have exposed yourself as someone who only wants to listen to people whose "conclusions" are much like your corny word plays with no basis. You are not open to discussions and contra arguments just as you always cry over being proven wrong or being questioned. Ultimately even scholars with years of experience and contribution backed by facts are nuisance to you once they don't support your dreams of yoruba being Hebrew. You are not serious When you have gotten to the level of self aggrandizement that you think you can challenge institutions and people who have put in rigorous work on the topic of the west African past. You alone and those who Band together with you are the ordained historians and leaders of the Yoruba everyone else is wrong, how dare they question you eeee ooThat is some crazy shiit 3. You actually don't comprehend anything. you are throwing the term "green sahara" in mockery and in such a way that shows you don't even understand what that actually means. Goes to show that you do not even allow yourself to process any information that doesn't say Yoruba are Hebrews. You are so obsessed with Hebrew people who you were indoctrinated into worshipping in church You also obviously don't know what Bantu means. And I have never said Yoruba are a Bantu admixture (you morons keep saying this I wonder where you got that from. Imagine 3/4 people misleading themselves over the same single point )4. Please I encourage discussion on yoruba history but don't talk trash, better you stay quiet if you can't handle being questioned or shown your mistake where you make one 5. You yourself have declared your Hebrew  you are no longer Yoruba. Go back to your country in IsraelI am Yoruba, West African and proud |
| Re: Yoruba Hebrew Heritage by Olu317(m): 6:10am On Feb 18, 2020 |
macof:Seems you feel bitter about what I have done to exposing your ignorance . Instead you result to diversionary pattern but wait up! Alaba and Alabama are not the only semblance which can be said to be cognate because Yoruba's Die and English's Die are also cognate . Glorified olodo to the brim . It is a pity your sponsor at the tertiary institution did wasted his/her financial support.There is no iota of doubt that I am enjoying your so called sly lifestyle online because you're a weakling and a fish brain. So, when you are defenceless, you pick up irrelevancy and make it relevant,when in reality, it is valueless. Perhaps, you think, I can fall cheap for trick to showcase methodology for a work of mine in the offing? Intellectual theft at peak from the fake scholar macof As far as I can see it, you will disappear in the same manner, others did because shame caught with them , which await you. A pseudo scholar thought, I can't read paleograph simply because I give you attention on this platform. Paradventure, you dont know, I can read classic Semitic language of, so, there is no iota of doubt in my heart about the research work in care, which will be ready in due season. My question : How do you want to promote Yoruba's heritage? Ponder over it because one who stand in for a course must have answer for one believes both traditionally and academically. Obviously, fish brain as yours lack the pedigree. Nevertheless, your action can be predicted easily, over regurgitation of questions; provide this,provide that as you have never for once stopped doing,since you failed to realised, untrained personality ask such questions in an open forum .I am not trained in linguistic nor have knowledge on paleography, says the soothsayer macof to score a cheap point but as far as I am concern, when I am done with my research work, you will read what academic qualification I possessed before I can write book on Yoruba language which is of semitic origin through migration . And I will expect you to criticise my personality publicly at that point in history if you can. Note: Go and read books and be closer to awo Ifaodu to learn more about Isese. |
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