freedomest:
When E.H is concluded, this thread will be more shadower of it's self

What would we be doing here after the recruitment is concluded?

Licht:
The phrase "Federal Character" means merit has been sacrificed already! Hence you can never claim that the any process that is subject to federal character is on merit, because federal character implies that some people who are less performing, say, from the educationally less developed States, will find their way in, above candidates who totally flawed them from the educationally advanced states.

How do you deny a candidate from the south-south who scored 80% and allow a candidate from the north-east who scored 40%, and still have the audacity to say such a process was on merit? No! It's not. We've already used federal character to sacrifice merit in order to favour some folks. Ditto for why cut-off mark for entry into the Federal Government Colleges varies. A candidate from Zamfara State will have a cut-off mark of 23% & a candidate from Ogun State will have a cut-off mark of 85%, and you call that process merit-based? So, such a process lacks merit from the beginning once federal character principles apply.

Ask candidates that went for interview at the Towers and they will tell you for a fact that you hardly hear names from the geographical "upper" regions of the country when names were being called in the amphitheater. It was claimed that some powerful folks were not happy with that & decided to "adjust" the process to aid more people from those "upper" regions of the country to come in. For a process that started speedily to now take nine months between conclusion of interviews to issuance of APLs....

Lastly, note the use of the phrase "National Spread" which the NNPC used in its communique, it showed a desperation to validate the process. They've turned it to a game of luck.

So you feel wronged or some people feel wronged that some northerners got in and they didn’t hence the explanation of federal character and how it opposes merit?!
This thought is only brought about because you somehow feel superior to some people from the northern part of the country. That is messed up.
You think every northerner is educationally poor? You think your certificate is above the northerners? Knowledge is knowledge period. Maybe you wouldn’t even fare against the northerners you feel superior to.
So long as people keep getting this type of mentality, we can never be one as a nation.

My friends from other Department have theirs, but my Dept., no one has gotten. I was told that we needed to apply to the Academic Secretary before it could be produced (which could take 3 months).
I didn't mention this, another panelist (an ABU Alumnus) defended me when I was quizzed on the certificate issue, he told the other members that at times it takes long for the certificates to be produced, citing his as an example.
To answer your question, it looks like I'm the only one from my set (Departmental level) that got it.

It should not be a problem as long as your result is genuine because they will verify your certificates/result. In my set, some poeple were sacked after they were found to have used fake result. For one of them that I kept seeing after he was fired, he was a pitiable sight to behold because he looked a shadow of himself. So nothing to worry about.

Dmamasboy:


So you feel wronged or some people feel wronged that some northerners got in and they didn’t hence the explanation of federal character and how it opposes merit?!
This thought is only brought about because you somehow feel superior to some people from the northern part of the country. That is messed up.
You think every northerner is educationally poor? You think your certificate is above the northerners? Knowledge is knowledge period. Maybe you wouldn’t even fare against the northerners you feel superior to.
So long as people keep getting this type of mentality, we can never be one as a nation.

try to understand the concept of quota system and federal character and see why southerners don't go well with it...It is an arguable rule

I'm an EH hopeful,I need closure on this recruitment. NNPC should understand that, life is all about Planning and this is a New Year, it's already getting old,Plans are already getting shattered too. They need our services and we need their pay,let them decide quickly.

Please has any one from IMO state gotten his/her APL. Just want to know

I don't feel wronged nor do some people feel wronged that northerners got in. The wrong is that a northerner should not get into a place with 40% and a southerner who scored 80% denied the same place, and you openly call such a system "merit-based".

It's a fact that many northerners will not be occupying seats they are occupying today if we go by true merit.

Even your reverred and highly educated Emir Sanusi Lamido said it earlier this week that the North should not think federal character will help them in the future and they should rather be ready to compete on equal level. I opine you can't be more northern than the Emir, but he chose to speak the truth while you shy away from it with appeal to emotions of if I have superior knowledge than northerners.

I bear no grudge against northerners, because I really do pity their downtrodden. Despite the privilege they have and systems like federal character being applied to favour them, they are still the ones you find doing the crudest & dirtiest of jobs even in the south. They are the ones you find littering & begging for alms in the south.

Why not champion the application of federal character to the Super Eagles and other national teams....

Dmamasboy:


So you feel wronged or some people feel wronged that some northerners got in and they didn’t hence the explanation of federal character and how it opposes merit?!
This thought is only brought about because you somehow feel superior to some people from the northern part of the country. That is messed up.
You think every northerner is educationally poor? You think your certificate is above the northerners? Knowledge is knowledge period. Maybe you wouldn’t even fare against the northerners you feel superior to.
So long as people keep getting this type of mentality, we can never be one as a nation.

I believe the EH component will be concluded they may probably resume same time with GTs. GMD will keep to his words I trust him. It is just that no one can say the exact time and the number to be released. Meanwhile I commend the maturity of the EH.

dchem:
If a condition is stated at the beginning, and it's abided to at the end of the process it is considered fair. If the process already says we will employ from 36 states plus FCT then merit will be considered at state level. We may not like federal character but if genuinely implemented it can help a nation to bond. I believe most people tout this recruitment as fair maybe because many "sourceless" people got it. Cheers man we will practice the real merit someday.

How is the bonding working for us so far? If you say they are not implementing it well, how else could they have implemented it?

Emir Sanusi Lamido made a pertinent statement, about the northern youths all relaxing because they only need to make half the effort their southern counterparts are making to get a lucrative Fed. Govt. job. (This is not to demean the efforts of some brilliant northern fellows though, some of which I have been privileged to meet). My submission is on a general basis. The Emir said that one day, the constitution on Fed. Character will be scrapped and then it will dawn on the average northerner who is used to making half the effort.

This thing called Educationally less developed states is politically motivated to ensure more fed. revenues and undue privileges goes to the NORTHERN ELITES AND THEIR FAMILIES who mostly school outside the country, the average northerner will continue to be deprived of basic education so as to promote the notion of "Educationally less developed" to the rest of the country and it will encourage one senator to bring his 4 wives to the Senate house and boast of how they have given him 27 children and counting... because in his mind he has where to fix them all forgetting that he may not be a senator forever.

Some people from your state merited it more than you bro. You knew the criteria from the beginning. This long write up trying to discredit the process is not fair. Personally, I frown at the quota system but until our constitution is reviewed, we'll still be here. Rather than castigate the corporation, why not speak up against the laws they abide by.

Las Las, we go all dey alright with or without APL.

Licht:
The phrase "Federal Character" means merit has been sacrificed already! Hence you can never claim that the any process that is subject to federal character is on merit, because federal character implies that some people who are less performing, say, from the educationally less developed States, will find their way in, above candidates who totally flawed them from the educationally advanced states.

How do you deny a candidate from the south-south who scored 80% and allow a candidate from the north-east who scored 40%, and still have the audacity to say such a process was on merit? No! It's not. We've already used federal character to sacrifice merit in order to favour some folks. Ditto for why cut-off mark for entry into the Federal Government Colleges varies. A candidate from Zamfara State will have a cut-off mark of 23% & a candidate from Ogun State will have a cut-off mark of 85%, and you call that process merit-based? So, such a process lacks merit from the beginning once federal character principles apply.

Ask candidates that went for interview at the Towers and they will tell you for a fact that you hardly hear names from the geographical "upper" regions of the country when names were being called in the amphitheater. It was claimed that some powerful folks were not happy with that & decided to "adjust" the process to aid more people from those "upper" regions of the country to come in. For a process that started speedily to now take nine months between conclusion of interviews to issuance of APLs....

Lastly, note the use of the phrase "National Spread" which the NNPC used in its communique, it showed a desperation to validate the process. They've turned it to a game of luck.

[[s]quote author=Dmamasboy post=86858998]

So you feel wronged or some people feel wronged that some northerners got in and they didn’t hence the explanation of federal character and how it opposes merit?!
This thought is only brought about because you somehow feel superior to some people from the northern part of the country. That is messed up.
You think every northerner is educationally poor? You think your certificate is above the northerners? Knowledge is knowledge period. Maybe you wouldn’t even fare against the northerners you feel superior to.
So long as people keep getting this type of mentality, we can never be one as a nation. [/quote][/s]


When it comes to where North will benefit, standard is lowered in the name of federal character, national spread, fairness and equity just like in federal unity schools.


But when it comes to politics, North does not remember fairness and equity. It becomes winner takes it all. Compare how many years Northerners have climbed to power and they are eyeing 2023, nobody remembers national spread, fairness and equity.

What is good for the geese is also good for gander.

Pass this message to your Northern brothers. Like you said we can never be one Nigeria with the mentality of the Northerners who sing Alhamdulilahi when merit is carpeted to accomodate them in admission and employment but shout majority carries the vote in politics where they have the numerical number of voters.

Good morning

Licht:
The phrase "Federal Character" means merit has been sacrificed already! Hence you can never claim that the any process that is subject to federal character is on merit, because federal character implies that some people who are less performing, say, from the educationally less developed States, will find their way in, above candidates who totally flawed them from the educationally advanced states.

How do you deny a candidate from the south-south who scored 80% and allow a candidate from the north-east who scored 40%, and still have the audacity to say such a process was on merit? No! It's not. We've already used federal character to sacrifice merit in order to favour some folks. Ditto for why cut-off mark for entry into the Federal Government Colleges varies. A candidate from Zamfara State will have a cut-off mark of 23% & a candidate from Ogun State will have a cut-off mark of 85%, and you call that process merit-based? So, such a process lacks merit from the beginning once federal character principles apply.

Ask candidates that went for interview at the Towers and they will tell you for a fact that you hardly hear names from the geographical "upper" regions of the country when names were being called in the amphitheater. It was claimed that some powerful folks were not happy with that & decided to "adjust" the process to aid more people from those "upper" regions of the country to come in. For a process that started speedily to now take nine months between conclusion of interviews to issuance of APLs....

Lastly, note the use of the phrase "National Spread" which the NNPC used in its communique, it showed a desperation to validate the process. They've turned it to a game of luck.

Bros, am a core northerner woh, am like the very defination of Hausa/fulani, But I still did not get the APL. They are lots of smart guys/ladies in the upper region. especially since they are able to knock me out despite my arsenal. I did my absolute best, and I wholeheartedly accept the result. God saw it, NNPC is not the best for me at the moment. So I accept, Alhamdulillah alla kulli hal.

Loaded89:

I think they can only pin a date of release, when the list has been approved. The list was compiled same time with that of GTs. After review upon review only GT got approval. With internal realignment and voluntary retirement going on, the vacancies may likely decrease or increase, which will subject the list to another review. When the review is completed, the list will be presented and HR will seek for approval.
EH excercise requires alot of intricacy, it is on multiple levels and positions advertised are close to 30, if not more, unlike GTs.
There is alot of pressure/interest both within and outside. Subsidiaries like NPDC Nd IDSL are claiming to have competent contract staff, the contract staff are clamouring for consideration.
In the coming months, the corporation intends to enhance the package of the contract staff.

Are you panalyst or maluga's friend? I just sent you a DM. Pls respond

Dmamasboy:


So you feel wronged or some people feel wronged that some northerners got in and they didn’t hence the explanation of federal character and how it opposes merit?!
This thought is only brought about because you somehow feel superior to some people from the northern part of the country. That is messed up.
You think every northerner is educationally poor? You think your certificate is above the northerners? Knowledge is knowledge period. Maybe you wouldn’t even fare against the northerners you feel superior to.
So long as people keep getting this type of mentality, we can never be one as a nation.

Man chill!

Take your time and read the piece by his eminence Sanusi Lamido on quota system and federal character. I believe you will have a fair view to the issue

We are here oh, what do you expect us to do na? We can’t kill ourselves ohhh, we can’t force NNPC, My guy na look we dey look ohh, dey pray say e go favour us, lai, lai we can’t kill ourselves ohhh, ehh we can’t kill ourselves oohh, we don do our best ohh, we don do our best ooo...

T4kbaba:

It seems EH here are not many.See how the thread has been deserted since GTs have notified. Let EH rekindle the momentums and always use every possible means to communicate with NNPC to conclude EH component of the exercise. Good luck to us because getting NNPC job is a luck and mercy from the High one.

This place has become Toxic.....i leave you all in peace....

Ok

Licht:
I don't feel wronged nor do some people feel wronged that northerners got in. The wrong is that a northerner should not get into a place with 40% and a southerner who scored 80% denied the same place, and you openly call such a system "merit-based".

It's a fact that many northerners will not be occupying seats they are occupying today if we go by true merit.

Even your reverred and highly educated Emir Sanusi Lamido said it earlier this week that the North should not think federal character will help them in the future and they should rather be ready to compete on equal level. I opine you can't be more northern than the Emir, but he chose to speak the truth while you shy away from it with appeal to emotions of if I have superior knowledge than northerners.

I bear no grudge against northerners, because I really do pity their downtrodden. Despite the privilege they have and systems like federal character being applied to favour them, they are still the ones you find doing the crudest & dirtiest of jobs even in the south. They are the ones you find littering & begging for alms in the south.

Why not champion the application of federal character to the Super Eagles and other national teams....

You may be surprised that even if you were pitched against those from the so called "North", you may still not be among the top 25 from some of those states. The fact that Federal character was used does not mean it favours the "North". It may well be that if that criteria was not used, there may be disproportionately more people from the north employed that from the south and this will lead to acrimony.
I know the general idea is that the "North" benefits more but that does not mean there are not many smart people from there.
During my set, after FSTP, there were more people from the "South" at the bottom than from the "North". And all those sacked for forgery were from the "South". So chill, lets keep striving for a better Nigeria.

PREFED:
It's one week after court case closure.

EH why the silence? EH spoke for GTs and are silent about theirs.

Time to storm Nnpc and GMD with questions directly.

Most EH guys are 'forming' busy with jobs they all know they will jettison for NNPC even without notice. Even the ones selling insurance at motor parks are not excluded and it calls for worry that Jarus, who has already moved on with that mouth watering offer (juxtaposing it with what the position he applied for at nnpc offers) is more active on this thread than most EH guys. Many hid amongst the GTs to clamour for closure but now feel it is infantile to ask for sources with info let alone demand for closure on EH as well. If our present jobs are that fantastic, I don't think anyone would take the trouble of applying. We all need to be on this until we get closure as well because the authorities see all what we post on social media ( MKK retweeted a message commending his administration for a job well done) especially twitter as long as the post and demands are professional and polite and worthy of EHs. I think starting a twitter campaign four weeks from now is not a bad idea. Moreso that Oga MKK and the corporation is still basking in the euphoria of the successful conclusion of the GT component. This delay is probably self inflicted considering what I read on some whatsapp groups for EH. The internal, external or political influence that stalled or impeded EH progress was probably instigated by some EH hopefuls. Many applicants in this category claimed on whatsapp and other fora to have senators. Speaker of HR, presidency etc pushing for them. Is that not enough to stall progress? Considering the limited positions and expertise required. We should just pray that the internal realighment and retirements work in our favour.
@maluga, info from you is highly solicited and I make bold to say your source is highly credible. You said 1050 GTs and it panned out. Jarus, panalyst, loaded89 etal should kindly volunteer info as well and we should all lend our voices so that the voices of a few would not be a babel of voices. Peace!

Licht:
The phrase "Federal Character" means merit has been sacrificed already! Hence you can never claim that the any process that is subject to federal character is on merit, because federal character implies that some people who are less performing, say, from the educationally less developed States, will find their way in, above candidates who totally flawed them from the educationally advanced states.

How do you deny a candidate from the south-south who scored 80% and allow a candidate from the north-east who scored 40%, and still have the audacity to say such a process was on merit? No! It's not. We've already used federal character to sacrifice merit in order to favour some folks. Ditto for why cut-off mark for entry into the Federal Government Colleges varies. A candidate from Zamfara State will have a cut-off mark of 23% & a candidate from Ogun State will have a cut-off mark of 85%, and you call that process merit-based? So, such a process lacks merit from the beginning once federal character principles apply.

Ask candidates that went for interview at the Towers and they will tell you for a fact that you hardly hear names from the geographical "upper" regions of the country when names were being called in the amphitheater. It was claimed that some powerful folks were not happy with that & decided to "adjust" the process to aid more people from those "upper" regions of the country to come in. For a process that started speedily to now take nine months between conclusion of interviews to issuance of APLs....

Lastly, note the use of the phrase "National Spread" which the NNPC used in its communique, it showed a desperation to validate the process. They've turned it to a game of luck.

You are wrong wrong wrong. Following the federal character does not mean people from the North are anything less. The percentage of educated people in this South is higher than that of the North, agreed. But that does mean that there are no good candidates in the North. I participated in competitions and beat people from the so called South. I won MIT scholarship and students from the South whom I took the same course with couldn't get it. I won international competitions that people from the South participated. During my studies, we had students from every parts of the country, but all the tree top students in our graduating class are from the core North.

You need to study in the North and then you will see the reality. Southerners who study in the North will hardly make the comment you made. The percentage may be different, but there are equally excellent and talented candidates from the North.

fidebbs:

Most EH guys are 'forming' busy with jobs they all know they will jettison for NNPC even without notice. Even the ones selling insurance at motor parks are not excluded and it calls for worry that Jarus, who has already moved on with that mouth watering offer (juxtaposing it with what the position he applied for at nnpc offers) is more active on this thread than most EH guys. Many hid amongst the GTs to clamour for closure but now feel it is infantile to ask for sources with info let alone demand for closure on EH as well. If our present jobs are that fantastic, I don't think anyone would take the trouble of applying. We all need to be on this until we get closure as well because the authorities see all what we post on social media ( MKK retweeted a message commending his administration for a job well done) especially twitter as long as the post and demands are professional and polite and worthy of EHs. I think starting a twitter campaign four weeks from now is not a bad idea. Moreso that Oga MKK and the corporation is still basking in the euphoria of the successful conclusion of the GT component. This delay is probably self inflicted considering what I read on some whatsapp groups for EH. The internal, external or political influence that stalled or impeded EH progress was probably instigated by some EH hopefuls. Many applicants in this category claimed on whatsapp and other fora to have senators. Speaker of HR, presidency etc pushing for them. Is that not enough to stall progress? Considering the limited positions and expertise required. We should just pray that the internal realighment and retirements work in our favour.
@maluga, info from you is highly solicited and I make bold to say your source is highly credible. You said 1050 GTs and it panned out. Jarus, panalyst, loaded89 etal should kindly volunteer info as well and we should all lend our voices so that the voices of a few would not be a babel of voices. Peace!

Thank you for this.

Please does NNPC pay immediately after ur first working month ends or they wait till 3-6 months like a lot of MDAs do?

dustydee:

You may be surprised that even if you were pitched against those from the so called "North", you may still not be among the top 25 from some of those states. The fact that Federal character was used does not mean it favours the "North". It may well be that if that criteria was not used, there may be disproportionately more people from the north employed that from the south and this will lead to acrimony.
I know the general idea is that the "North" benefits more but that does not mean there are not many smart people from there.
During my set, after FSTP, there were more people from the "South" at the bottom than from the "North". And all those sacked for forgery were from the "South". So chill, lets keep striving for a better Nigeria.

Mustaphatk:


You are wrong wrong wrong. Following the federal character does not mean people from the North are anything less. The percentage of educated people in this South is higher than that of the North, agreed. But that does mean that there are no good candidates in the North. I participated in competitions and beat people from the so called South. I won MIT scholarship and students from the South whom I took the same course with couldn't get it. I won international competitions that people from the South participated. During my studies, we had students from every parts of the country, but all the tree top students in our graduating class are from the core North.

You need to study in the North and then you will see the reality. Southerners who study in the North will hardly make the comment you made. The percentage may be different, but there are equally excellent and talented candidates from the North.

Most Southerners that study in the North, are below average of a typical Southerner. It's mostly frustration of not getting admission in the South or due to rustication, that made some of them to study in the North, because of easier admission entry requirements and lower competition.

Mustaphatk:


You are wrong wrong wrong. Following the federal character does not mean people from the North are anything less. The percentage of educated people in this South is higher than that of the North, agreed. But that does mean that there are no good candidates in the North. I participated in competitions and beat people from the so called South. I won MIT scholarship and students from the South whom I took the same course with couldn't get it. I won international competitions that people from the South participated. During my studies, we had students from every parts of the country, but all the tree top students in our graduating class are from the core North.

You need to study in the North and then you will see the reality. Southerners who study in the North will hardly make the comment you made. The percentage may be different, but there are equally excellent and talented candidates from the North.

I agree with you that the North have many intelligent people. That being said, don't you think federal character and quota system should be scrapped so that every Nigerian will have an equal and fair fight in everything? To me, no region should be given special treatment since we all have reasonable representative of intellectual people.

saxha:


Most Southerners that study in the North, are below average of a typical Southerner. It's mostly frustration of not getting admission in the South or due to rustication, that made some of them to study in the North, because of easier admission entry requirements and lower competition.

I have heard this from a dullard and uncivilized friend too. A southerner like me who studied computer science in a southern tertiary institution but can't operate a computer. What I'm saying in essence is that you should drink enough water in this heat season and allow yourself some peace.

I am not from the North, but quota system and Federal character is highly necessary. If you are too intelligent or brilliant and don't want Federal character, go and look for job in a Private firm or non-government organization or open a business. If you remove Federal character and it affects the North, then do not collect taxes from the North or oblige them to do things for the nation, since you didn't involve them in Federal character. Nigeria is for all, and no one is to enjoy a thing by the government while others watch and suffer. Everyone should be included, so that love, peace and Harmony will be shown.

Let those from Taraba, Adamawa, Kebbi, etc, feel involved in the progress of Nigeria.

Emmanuelk1234:
Please does NNPC pay immediately after ur first working month ends or they wait till 3-6 months like a lot of MDAs do?

At each month end. Why would an organisation pay 3-6 months later? Except if you start say 15th of the month, meaning they may have processed payfoll for that month and you have to wait till the next payroll.

Mustaphatk:


You are wrong wrong wrong. Following the federal character does not mean people from the North are anything less. The percentage of educated people in this South is higher than that of the North, agreed. But that does mean that there are no good candidates in the North. I participated in competitions and beat people from the so called South. I won MIT scholarship and students from the South whom I took the same course with couldn't get it. I won international competitions that people from the South participated. During my studies, we had students from every parts of the country, but all the tree top students in our graduating class are from the core North.

You need to study in the North and then you will see the reality. Southerners who study in the North will hardly make the comment you made. The percentage may be different, but there are equally excellent and talented candidates from the North.

The tertiary education system in the north is really competitive. I must confess, having studied in the north myself.
While a lot of people criticise the quota system, let us not forget that there are lots of very intelligent and bright individuals who are of northern origin. We shouldn't generalize and bath everyone with the same water.

The thread is expected to be dry. The thread i believe is for disseminating info and I'm sure there's nothing new to share. If people who are in the know get info i guess they ll drop. People don't need to clamour and comment on the thread for closure to come any sooner. Not commenting doesn't also mean you're not interested. It simply means you have nothing to type.

People with reliable source plz share when you hear.

Good Weekend everyone.

saxha:


Most Southerners that study in the North, are below average of a typical Southerner. It's mostly frustration of not getting admission in the South or due to rustication, that made some of them to study in the North, because of easier admission entry requirements and lower competition.

I disagree with you here my brother, we shouldn't let our emotions make us say disparaging things about the educational system in the north. By the way they are all the same N,S,E,W. The educational system in the north is competitive. I schooled in the north, like wise lots of southerners , and they would admit that it standard is high 75%.

Take it or leave it An average southerner is more intelligent than an average northerner and the FCC something favors the educationally backward states like Zamfara, yobe, kebbi, taraba etc. Let the FCC be scrapped and only the best should be favored irrespective of region or tribe on the long run it will make everybody sit up.
PS I am not taking anything from the Northerners as I schooled in the North and I have met some of them who Are savants in academics.

saxha:


Most Southerners that study in the North, are below average of a typical Southerner. It's mostly frustration of not getting admission in the South or due to rustication, that made some of them to study in the North, because of easier admission entry requirements and lower competition.

You are also wrong. Most people come to the North because there are fewer applicants from the North, so the feel they can get in easily. There are people who have high academic abilities and still come to the North. I met a first-class graduate from University of Uyo who said to me she thought I studied abroad. I also met a smart friend during my service who confessed to me that he thought Northerners are dull. Yeah there is lower competition. But most Southerners that come the North cannot also be compared to top students from the North. There is lower competition. But that is also changing because more and more people are going to school in the North recently and it is becoming difficult for Southerners to get in, not because they aren't good, but because there are better candidates from the North.