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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Marlianvestor: 11:05am On Feb 26, 2020
ukay2:


Sir I understand. ...it is not easy.

I will advise you to buy some FGN Bonds when the yield increase again....I will remind you when the yields improve. ...currently it is about 12%

I have been able to acquire good values of FGN Bonds with average yield above 13.8% of 14.8% FGN BOND 26-April -2049. You will be getting the coupon payments of 14.8% every 6 months till maturity.

With that, you can sleep well and be reinesting the coupon payments either in equities or reinvest it in FGN Bonds.....compound interest

For me, any investment that I cannot sleepwell in the night is not worth it.

I cannot pursue money at the risk of my blood pressure. ....Loooooool

Yes o! As mentioned earlier re. watching out 4 rising yield in FGN bonds - a Meffy desperate move to at least keep the FPI $ from leaving 9ja, since our reserve is depleting fast and new $ not coming in droves.... Bad and costly CBN move to avoid imminent devaluation, though! Besides being anti-climax re. the desperate inclusive growth we really need in this country. Only the FPI guys are smiling now re. profitable carry trade - easy dollar return for them esp with the new 5-year $ futures contract.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 11:05am On Feb 26, 2020
pluto09:



You are interpreting the market from your biased position.
What if uba pays less than expected dividend.
Zenith dividend yield was above 10% and the price is still going down.
What do you think will happen if uba final dividend yield is less than 10%.

I thought NL approved N1.00
Are we not stakeholders?
We need DY of roughly 14.5% across TOE's Coys..... grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 11:06am On Feb 26, 2020
pluto09:
You are interpreting the market from your biased position.
What if uba pays less than expected dividend.
Zenith dividend yield was above 10% and the price is still going down.
What do you think will happen if uba final dividend yield is less than 10%.
Boss, like I said, its just my opinion based on my observation.
I may be wrong.
One group will be justified at the end of the day. We wait and see.........
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 11:07am On Feb 26, 2020
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 11:13am On Feb 26, 2020
Las las some people go still miss out of this bonanza. lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by dipoolowoo: 11:16am On Feb 26, 2020
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 11:18am On Feb 26, 2020
Mcy56:
Las las some people go still miss out of this bonanza. lipsrsealed lipsrsealed

Icing on the cake, the cake is still under. ... grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Marlianvestor: 11:19am On Feb 26, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
Trading stocks for a living and relying solely on the stocks capital appreciation for sustainance and survival is a recipe for disaster and high blood pressure.


True and not true, Sir! Individuals with limited funds, yes, but not true, for all the HNW investors and corporate guys with sqoush funds who solely look to scalp the market just 5 or 10% returns repeatedly. Some guys are even scalping with huge volume N1 net absolute returns of Zenith and GTB stocks repeatedly. They do this for a living! Just look at what the T-bills guys are doing to the equity mkts for now. The era of 25% appreciation at once for fundamental stocks in the mkt is gone for now apart from one-off or illiquid stocks. More reason, why I said earlier that the mkt for now is massively rigged against long term investors. Hopefully, post-PMB, the mkt dynamics would change, but for now... cry

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 11:27am On Feb 26, 2020
RabbiDoracle:
You can't be drinking ngwo when Nkwu-enu is coming.


Imagine what after April will be like. LOL.

My eyes are set on that signal and it's looking more convincing and assured each passing day.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 11:28am On Feb 26, 2020
DeRuggedProf:


Icing on the cake, the cake is still under. ... grin

That's the trick. You see icing and assume there's cake underneath. That's a while bunch of icing without any cake. LOL.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 11:29am On Feb 26, 2020
Mcy56:

Boss, like I said, its just my opinion based on my observation.
I may be wrong.
One group will be justified at the end of the day. We wait and see.........


I am not talking about being right or wrong.
I see the market as a probability game. When we are taking position in a stock,we need to have a balanced perspective that it can go either way so that we can be prepared for any outcome.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Marlianvestor: 11:33am On Feb 26, 2020
emmanuelewumi:
March 2020 is a wonderful month for dividend investors.

Zenith bank
GTB
UBA
United Capital
Afriprud
Afriland
Vitafoam

Yes o for dividend hunters esp ancestral investors... grin Whilst folks will be getting return ON their capital no doubt, return OF their capital 100% is suspect for now esp folks that bought high during this PMB era (and going thru d dreaded devaluation as well). Most haven't recovered or broken even, capital appreciation wise (factoring in devaluation effect as well). If you bought low pre-PMB era, then no shaking and you stand gidigba! cool Just my 2koko observation!

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Marlianvestor: 11:39am On Feb 26, 2020
[quote author=mendes911 post=86953954]

And $67,000 invested 3 years ago in the likes of Flour mills, WAPCO, NB, Guinness will be worth less than $10,000.00 today.

They wouldn't tell you this one![/quote]

Gbam! Naturally.... Sir! Na who know, know!
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 11:51am On Feb 26, 2020
Whenever brokers want to trap people, it is the market of the last 15mins...... grin cheesy grin
I remember following my friend to a local market, he decided to join other traders in a bar nearby.
They dinned and wined, chatting all through, keeping an eye on the flow of market women, occasionally they will go out and offer very bad prices and wont even bother to continue with the bargain, return and continue drinking, clinging tightly to their cash.
When the sun began to bite hard, some bold market women started collecting food on credit, promising to pay back when they sell, meanwhile, more market women poured into the market.
I kept asking my friend when he is going to start buying, he kept telling me to wait until the food sellers start worrying the market women who collected food on credit to pay........................................ grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by aremso(m): 12:03pm On Feb 26, 2020
DeRuggedProf:
Whenever brokers want to trap people, it is the market of the last 15mins...... grin cheesy grin
I remember following my friend to a local market, he decided to join other traders in a bar nearby.
They dinned and wined, chatting all through, keeping an eye on the flow of market women, occasionally they will go out and offer very bad prices and wont even bother to continue with the bargain, return and continue drinking, clinging tightly to their cash.
When the sun began to bite hard, some bold market women started collecting food on credit, promising to pay back when they sell, meanwhile, more market women poured into the market.
I kept asking my friend when he is going to start buying, he kept telling me to wait until the food sellers start worrying the market women who collected food on credit to pay them........................................ grin

wow! this is a fantastic anaylysis ooo but trying to digest it so i can know the group i belong to if that of your friend or the market women

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by yok: 12:04pm On Feb 26, 2020
[quote author=dipoolowoo post=86969386]Year-to-Date Gain of Nigerian Stocks Shrinks to 0.03%
https://businesspost.ng/economy/year-to-date-return-of-nigerian-stocks-shrinks-to-0-03/

Kindly note that the -0.03% loss was for close of business as at yesterday. For the year as at close of business yesterday we were still at +0.71% which is likely to be further depleted after close of business today.

Thanks.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 12:26pm On Feb 26, 2020
Marlianvestor:


True and not true, Sir! Individuals with limited funds, yes, but not true, for all the HNW investors and corporate guys with sqoush funds who solely look to scalp the market just 5 or 10% returns repeatedly. Some guys are even scalping with huge volume N1 net absolute returns of Zenith and GTB stocks repeatedly. They do this for a living! Just look at what the T-bills guys are doing to the equity mkts for now. The era of 25% appreciation at once for fundamental stocks in the mkt is gone for now apart from one-off or illiquid stocks. More reason, why I said earlier that the mkt for now is massively rigged against long term investors. Hopefully, post-PMB, the mkt dynamics would change, but for now... cry


The high blood pressure and sleepless nights during the bear era cannot be ruled out.


No High Networth Investor will build his sustainance solely on a factor ie capital appreciation which he can't control.

Some of his capital appreciation loots would have been Invested in money market funds, bonds, real estate etc

Show me a multibillionaire or millionaire who committed suicide during recession or economic meltdown, I can tell you that was someone who took unnecessary risk, trying to hammer based on factors beyond his control and his bet went wrong big time

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OakPearl(m): 12:39pm On Feb 26, 2020
ukay2:


Sir I understand. ...it is not easy.

I will advise you to buy some FGN Bonds when the yield increase again....I will remind you when the yields improve. ...currently it is about 12%

I have been able to acquire good values of FGN Bonds with average yield above 13.8% of 14.8% FGN BOND 26-April -2049. You will be getting the coupon payments of 14.8% every 6 months till maturity.

With that, you can sleep well and be reinesting the coupon payments either in equities or reinvest it in FGN Bonds.....compound interest

For me, any investment that I cannot sleepwell in the night is not worth it.

I cannot pursue money at the risk of my blood pressure. ....Loooooool

Nice one bro.
Am sure you meant half of the 14.8% (annual) coupons every 6 months.
My 2029 coupon just dropped 2 days ago...no better place than to sink it in a bear market like this. grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Marlianvestor: 12:52pm On Feb 26, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



The high blood pressure and sleepless nights during the bear era cannot be ruled.


No High Networth Investor will build his sustainance solely on a factor ie capital appreciation which he can't control.

Some of his capital appreciation loots would have been Invested in money market funds, bonds, real estate etc

Show me a multibillionaire or millionaire who committed suicide during recession or economic meltdown, I can tell you that was someone who took unnecessary risk, trying to hammer based on factors beyond his control and his bet went wrong big time

...more reason, why I specifically said squosh funds, aka loose monies, aka left-over funds after having invested massively on conviction asset classes re. sustainability of wealth etc. It could also be 10% of portfolio funds dedicated to speculative trading etc.... Hoping you get my drift now, Sir! Squosh funds always tend to look for quick high risk/high returns investing opportunities.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by 735i(m): 12:59pm On Feb 26, 2020
veecovee:


Corona was just the problem ... But thank God China is now reporting low fresh cases, other nations are reporting fresh cases though. However, there's hope that the pestilent would soon be handled like SARS and others

Whenever the word hope is used in investing, i head for the door..

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chillykelly86(m): 1:09pm On Feb 26, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



I am now expecting between 85k and 95k final dividend.

Although N1.00 dividend won't be bad.

UBA will pay higher than what Afriprud declared

I'm suspecting a higher dividend payout from UBA too. From the precedent of UCAP & Afriprud, it appears Boss Tony needs some cash.

I'm seeing something that may look like a trend(not certain yet) of the indigenous big boys of the banks divesting. Are they seeing better opportunities elsewhere?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by robobo: 1:09pm On Feb 26, 2020
my people please someone should bless me with the FBNH unaudited full year result

thank you
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by CashDiMkpa: 1:12pm On Feb 26, 2020
emmanuelewumi:



If you don't have the temperament of an investor please don't try it. Stick what you have the temperament for.

You can try a blend of both by having another account basically for investment.


No be separate account matter o. Its a mindset thing. You got to cure the itchy finger and the need to know day to day fluctuations in prices.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by eziokwunwoko(m): 1:13pm On Feb 26, 2020
Dangote Cement ; N16.00 Dividend
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 1:13pm On Feb 26, 2020
robobo:
my people please someone should bless me with the FBNH unaudited full year result

thank you

http://www.nse.com.ng/Financial_NewsDocs/29032_FBN_HOLDINGS_PLC_FINANCIAL_STATEMENTS_FEBRUARY_2020.pdf
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 1:14pm On Feb 26, 2020
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 1:16pm On Feb 26, 2020
CashDiMkpa:


No be separate account matter o. Its a mindset thing. You got to cure the itchy finger and the need to know day to day fluctuations in prices.

Very difficult to curb itchy fingers if you monitor the market 24/7. Online trading has also denocratised stock trading which is a catalyst for the itchy fingers syndrome

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by DeRuggedProf: 1:20pm On Feb 26, 2020
chillykelly86:


I'm suspecting a higher dividend payout from UBA too. From the precedent of UCAP & Afriprud, it appears Boss Tony needs some cash.

I'm seeing something that may look like a trend(not certain yet) of the indigenous big boys of the banks divesting. Are they seeing better opportunities elsewhere?

grin grin grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by robobo: 1:23pm On Feb 26, 2020
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Godisfaithful: 1:23pm On Feb 26, 2020
mendes911:


Imagine what after April will be like. LOL.

My eyes are set on that signal and it's looking more convincing and assured each passing day.


GBAM grin. I just pity those who keep buying when the selling has not even started. The whole world market is burning...why would I buy a stock of 4 Naira for 7 Naira because of 75Kobo dividend? Ayam not interested in NSE for now....Cash is king

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nio68(m): 1:28pm On Feb 26, 2020
I agree .. cash is king .. we seem to be heading back to the days when FBN was around N3.. I see bearish catalyst everywhere at the moment

Godisfaithful:



GBAM grin. I just pity those who keep buying when the selling has not even started. The whole world market is burning...why would I buy a stock of 4 Naira for 7 Naira because of 75Kobo dividend? Ayam not interested in NSE for now....Cash is king
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 1:37pm On Feb 26, 2020
Godisfaithful:



GBAM grin. I just pity those who keep buying when the selling has not even started. The whole world market is burning...why would I buy a stock of 4 Naira for 7 Naira because of 75Kobo dividend? Ayam not interested in NSE for now....Cash is king


Even in a burning Market, people are still investing and making money.

Some of have never left the market even during recession, because that is what businesses men do .

You don't close because business is bad.

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