Maximus69:


Are you also carried away with his persuasive arguments of no benefits?

Well i'm not surprised, you're always interested in verification even when you're seeing the effect of what you heard, it's like "the book" says those who arived the tomb earlier the third day couldn't find Jesus' body in the tomb.

So how do you expect his bones to be found when the body has been removed?

LordReed:


Yeah because the only relevant thing Jesus supposedly did on earth was possess a body.

Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmm how wise you are my friend?

"The only relevant thing Jesus supposedly did on earth was possess a body"

Please of what benefit is the body in the absence of those DOING EXACTLY WHAT HE TAUGHT TO EASE THE TENSION HUMANS HAVE BROUGHT UPON THEMSELVES?

So all you can think of is to see a lifeless bone of a leader whose followers are doing great works throughout the earth before you agree that he once lived?

Hmmmmmmmm this ATHEISM has rendered many brains useless!

Imagine someone insisting he needs to see the dead bodies of the colonial masters who brought civilization to Africa and the dead bodies of the blacks who fought for Independence before agreeing that there was a time the white men came here to dominate our people and there was a time our people demanded for Independence!

I'm sorry LordReed if you want to argue about Jesus' historicity, it's a welcome development but your insistence on seeing Jesus' bones before been convinced of his existence makes no practical sense!

LordReed:


Bwahahahaha! The joke flew so high over your head airline pilots thought it was another aircraft. LMFAO!

Maximus69:


You may make a joke out of it but the other guy is not taking this simple as you think, he feels Christians must spend their precious times arguing with him on the historicity of Jesus, whereas he's just a freethinker who poses no threat to our existence!

Of course no professional military personnel will waste a second attending to a feeble lousy bloody civilian when there are thousands of fully armed adversaries that needs to be disarmed!

I have presented the theory, practical applications and benefits of what i hold so dear, but he kept demanding i forget all that simply due to the arguments and fabricated criticism of useless antagonists who are of no practical benefits to him!

I'm now a happy grandpa with my woman, having millions of children both biological and spiritual, rest of mind with the children God gave me as i'm 100% certain that they will never be involved in hooliganism, cultism, vandalism or any other form of juvenile delinquencies, when i travel to any part of the world it's like i'm with my blood relations as Jehovah's Witnesses welcome me as if they've known me from cradle. All these just because of what we learnt from the Bible about Jesus of Nazareth!

Then an unquestionably stupid and hopeless black man now comes telling me to erase all those fine deeds all because he picked interest in the write-ups of some hopeless miscreants whose interest can't even provide one tenth of all the benefits i'm presently enjoying amongst God's people!

Well that's why i told him that if it was back in the first century when Jesus was praying fervently for his followers to possess the fine qualities Jehovah's Witnesses are now exhibiting globally, that my friend is saying all of these it would have made an impact on my beliefs NOT when i'm already enjoying the benefits of Jesus' teachings in the midst of a global family of peace loving worshipers!

Jesus made a lot of promises as WRITTEN in the Bible by his followers, i'm a living witness myself of the fulfilment of the first part of those promises today, so there is no antagonist that can convince me that the remaining part of Jesus promises will not come to fulfilment!

That's why i keep telling my friend to move ahead with his hopeless arguments that's of no practical benefits!

LordReed:


Yawn! Story. Provide proof of Jesus historicity. When we want to hear tells by moonlight we'll let you know.

Maximus69:


Of course that's what you WANT but i don't NEED that anymore once i'm already enjoying the fruitage of his teachings!

Please tell anyone who wants facts to confirm that truth about Benjamin Franklin that i don't need any confirmation of his existence again because i'm already enjoying ELECTRICITY!

LordReed:


Then park one side. Nobody's begging you.

Maximus69:


That's exactly what i've been trying to tell your FOLYKAZE friend but he won't just listen!

Wave goodbye and continue with your quest to unveil the secret behind the story of Jesus, almost 9,000,000 humans have passed that stage, if it's just that number that can be preserved to continue living forever. God's sovereignty has been vindicated!

Remember if 99.9% of all the lions on this planet are destroyed, so far there remains as much as 3 pairs of lions and lioness the creature LION has been perfectly preserved!

That's what the book says about how God (author of life) thinks!

LordReed:


But you keep commenting about it. How about you stop commenting?

LordReed:


Then park one side. Nobody's begging you.

TATIME:


How else do you expect someone to "PARK ONE SIDE" after telling the FOLY guy that he is not interested in the arguments so that FOLY can continue with his quest?

Maximus69:


Quoting me is the problem here!

If he can't say "goodbye" then he need to stop quoting me, because that's a sign he still feels like continuing arguments and i'll continue to tell him I'M NOT INTERESTED IN HIS FRUITLESS ARGUMENTS!

TATIME:


How else do you expect someone to "PARK ONE SIDE" after telling the FOLY guy that he is not interested in the arguments so that FOLY can continue with his quest?

Maximus69:


Good morning bro Tatime!

I wonder o!

After saying i'm not interested in argument the guy kept crying that a Christian must argue with him, and i told him to move to the next door, yet LordReed is telling me to PACK ONE SIDE, in what way am i supposed to do that again?

LordReed:


By self control. Are you a teenager?

Maximus69:


Self control means restraint regarding evil deeds, but as for response we know when to be quiet and when to speak! Ecclesiastes 3:7

So when it's time for silence neither you nor your friend FOLYKAZE will tell us that!

LordReed:


Good then you cannot you the excuse that he keeps quoting you since you don't know when to keep silent.

Maximus69:


Never mind Sir, when that time comes you aren't the one to tell me!

LordReed:


LoL! I am not the one complaining about being in an argument I don't want to be involved in. Bwahahahaha!

Maximus69:


So it's none of your business, since we're both adults having FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND EXPRESSION!

Unless you want to deprive us of that, and i know that's against your faculty!

LordReed:


Bwahahaha! So you are recommending he shut up while you continue to utilize your free speech. LMFAO!

Maximus69:


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

He called me out while having a friendly discuss with you, i never wanted to chat with him in the first place.

So if he now wants me to quit or stop mentioning him, then he should stop quoting me otherwise i'll continue telling him my mind!

LordReed:


Then you shouldn't complain is all I am saying. Since you don't know when to be silent and you want to keep talking then you shouldn't be complaining, simple.

Maximus69:


None of your business!

LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! LMFAO!

TATIME:


How else do you expect someone to "PARK ONE SIDE" after telling the FOLY guy that he is not interested in the arguments so that FOLY can continue with his quest?

FOLYKAZE:


Tatime, do you know difference between argument and discourse?

If Maximus69 sees the thread as a debate or any form of argument, that is his problem. The thread is more of a discourse, and person like Budaatumi acknowledged it is discourse.

The stage is set, and he knowns when and where to come in, only but with evidences proving the accounts in the bible is historical. I set the parameters citing contemporary writings in real time. Max could only dance around like a waterlily instead of putting an end to the thread with a single evidence.

As you can see, he has no evidence and only fooling himself here

TATIME:


It's like he doesn't want to argue or discuss about Jesus' historicity with you. His focus (according to him) was LordReed. He only respond to you perhaps for a reason best known to him, but after seeing that you're not satisfied with his simple presentation he decided to call it a quit!
He's one of my Christian brothers (JWs) but due to his former profession he will not retreat so easily especially in a mission he feels obliged to take up!
Normally JWs had been warned not to accommodate room for arguments, so anytime we notice someone trying to drag us into arguments we excuse ourselves!

Maximus69:


You may make a joke out of it but the other guy is not taking this simple as you think, he feels Christians must spend their precious times arguing with him on the historicity of Jesus, whereas he's just a freethinker who poses no threat to our existence!

Maximus69:
Of course no professional military personnel will waste a second attending to a feeble lousy bloody civilian when there are thousands of fully armed adversaries that needs to be disarmed!

Maximus69:
I have presented the theory, practical applications and benefits [b]of what i hold so dear, but [b]he kept demanding i forget all that simply due to the arguments and fabricated criticism of useless antagonists who are of no practical benefits to him!

Maximus69:
I'm now a happy grandpa with my woman, having millions of children both biological and spiritual, rest of mind with the children God gave me as i'm 100% certain that they will never be involved in hooliganism, cultism, vandalism or any other form of juvenile delinquencies, when i travel to any part of the world it's like i'm with my blood relations as Jehovah's Witnesses welcome me as if they've known me from cradle. All these just because of what we learnt from the Bible about Jesus of Nazareth!

Maximus69:
Then an unquestionably stupid and hopeless black man now comes telling me to erase all those fine deeds all because he picked interest in the write-ups of some hopeless miscreants whose interest can't even provide one tenth of all the benefits i'm presently enjoying amongst God's people!

Maximus69:
Well that's why i told him that if it was back in the first century when Jesus was praying fervently for his followers to possess the fine qualities Jehovah's Witnesses are now exhibiting globally, that my friend is saying all of these it would have made an impact on my beliefs NOT when i'm already enjoying the benefits of Jesus' teachings in the midst of a global family of peace loving worshipers!

Jesus made a lot of promises as WRITTEN in the Bible by his followers, i'm a living witness myself of the fulfilment of the first part of those promises today, so there is no antagonist that can convince me that the remaining part of Jesus promises will not come to fulfilment!

Maximus69:
That's why i keep telling my friend to move ahead with his hopeless arguments that's of no practical benefits!

FOLYKAZE:


Really? Are all Christians this dishonest?? For F sake, I asked you to provide proof that Jesus existed historically. At no point was I arguing with you. As a matter of fact, I was the one tutoring you on the historical incidents that led to the Jewish war. The thread is more of an intellectual discourse, not a ground for argument as you posit. And you should thank us for teaching you little history, and exposing the old tales of your church.



The military run pr offices for a reason. And they also have mil-citizen relationship with offices for handling views on rules of engagement. You should cut the lies for kids. The hierarchy knows the rule better than you do.

Meanwhile, I asked simply, how the army punish negligents. Failing to provide direct answer shows why you couldn't produce evidence for Jesus's historicity.



When and where did you get this from?



Yadayada, Old pal.

Truth is golden and could withstand all form of fire without becoming blemish or loosing it beauty. The fear you exhibit exposing the truth you behold as fantasy.

When my kid was 3yrs,he believed Jesus lived in the moon, and that it watches over him, because his teacher told him. As a little child, he wondered why the moon 'follows' him around everywhere at night. But when he understood that the moon movement is an optical illusion, and Jesus does not live in it, he developed more interest in reading anything about celestial object. He is six now and have every right to know the truth, not the stupid garbage been taught by deluded religious bigots.



What interest are you enjoying that Awo kn yoruba societies don't enjoy? I begin to wonder, is it not the same jw that is the circle of pedophile and intolerant mofos? Is it the same jw that kill animal rights in a gruesome manner without respect to animal's soul? Is it same jw that denied bedridden patients life saving blood transfusion, hastenly ending precious lives in the name of doctrine. Thank Goodness Lasg saved that child in Lag State, you would have had the innocent baby dead by now. Jw are blood sucker like boko Haram for denying patients right to life. I will choose imule or jainism over jw.



Prove Jesus exist first before we can discus the authenticity of his gospel.



Do drunkards not believe a cup of alcohol would take away his hopelessness, and sipping from the cup won't harm him?

Denying person life through rejecting of blood transfusion isn't benefit. Some of your members are ever dying, sick, in abject poverty and only waiting forever for non-existing Jesus to return and rule the world. That isn't benefit but pure dose of alcohol sir

TATIME:


It's like he doesn't want to argue or discuss about Jesus' historicity with you. His focus (according to him) was LordReed. He only respond to you perhaps for a reason best known to him, but after seeing that you're not satisfied with his simple presentation he decided to call it a quit!

Maximus69:





The Bible itself have provided enough reason why secular history from Jesus' contemporaries can't be found.

It's either you carefully read, diligently study and thoroughly meditate on what was written before and after those gospel accounts that you can see the correlation you desire!



The Jewish religious leaders of his time made sure that he was

accused,

arrested,

detained,

tried,

judged,

sentenced and

executed

all on false charges, they made it seem as if he was a criminal that should be totally forgotten, they don't want his historicity to go beyond his days so they ordered (with threat) his followers to stop talking to people about him! Act 5:28



This are the then renoun religious leaders RECOGNIZED by their colonial masters (Rome), and 33 years after his death Jerusalem and it's temple was totally destroyed by the Romans so that any other secular history about his time was totally burnt to ashes apart from the ones taken into exile by his faithful followers!

TATIME:
He's one of my Christian brothers (JWs) but due to his former profession he will not retreat so easily especially in a mission he feels obliged to take up!

TATIME:
Normally JWs had been warned not to accommodate room for arguments, so anytime we notice someone trying to drag us into arguments we excuse ourselves!