yarimo:
let oba of Benin do anyhow first, that is when he will know that. kneeling down by a Governor or President is just formality.

story. The Kingdom respects the Oba compare to the governor. Governor don baff

Oba of Benin and alaafin of oyo are extremely powerful kings. There is a myth that the alaafin's palace is the meeting point of the most powerful witches. Iyaami eleye, aro igba aso mabale. ( The women who can tie two hundred rappers without any touching the ground) But there is a higher power which is the AARE crown worn by oduduwa himself and subsequent ooni. OONI ADIMULA is on another terrestrial level

Evilgenuis:
Greeting is different from respect... I might bow to greet you but deep inside i don't respect you... You have to earn my respect.

Them nor know.

johnwarax:
Just hearing the story for the first. But the Oba blatantly rejected all the offers from the colonial masters and no conditions where given. One thing I know is that the Benin kingdom fought colonialism

Oba Ewuare, during his visit to the ooni of ife, in his speech which was quoted in the tribune thus:
“I want to say it gives me great pleasure to visit His Imperial Majesty today in countinuation of my nationwide thank you call to traditional rulers, and other eminent personalities that graced my coronation on October 20, 2016, which by the divine grace of God is also my birthday. This visit has long been planned but due traditional and other palace engagements in Benin, it is coming at this time. My post-coronation thank-you tour commenced with a visit last year to President Buhari and the Sultan of Sokoto. I thank God for making this visit possible.
https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-oba-of-benin-visited-ooni-of-ife/

davidnazee:


You are making Ife look like an empire or one mighty kingdom which it never was.

The title of “imperial majesty” is meant for emperors and conquerors neither of which Ooni of Ife is..

In comparison the Oba of Benin is an imperial majesty..
You are talking about official title, imperial majesty is not an official title given by Nigerian government

I don’t know the meaning of “Oghene” in Benin language but since u know Benin language you tell me the meaning abi..

Oba Ewuare, during his visit to the ooni of ife, in his speech which was quoted in the tribune thus:
“I want to say it gives me great pleasure to visit His Imperial Majesty today in countinuation of my nationwide thank you call to traditional rulers, and other eminent personalities that graced my coronation on October 20, 2016, which by the divine grace of God is also my birthday. This visit has long been planned but due traditional and other palace engagements in Benin, it is coming at this time. My post-coronation thank-you tour commenced with a visit last year to President Buhari and the Sultan of Sokoto. I thank God for making this visit possible.
https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-oba-of-benin-visited-ooni-of-ife/

TAO11:


1. You said I was making Ife look like an empire or a mighty kingdom.

Well, let me shock you. My name is NOT Margaret Plass. My name is NOT Erediauwa I. Neither is my name William Fagg. Nor am I a curator, authority or history expert at the British Museum.

Take it up with these authotities and experts, who noted clearly that the kings of Benin paid homage to Ile Ife, and that they regard the Oonis of Ife as gods.

I was clearly citing the experts and authorities only

BTW, I would love to see you cite experts rather than vomit your personal imaginations. Thanks.


2. Yes, like I have noted above:

"An emperor/Empress is a king/queen of a higher and elevated status.

All emperors/empreses are kings/queens, but NOT all kings/queens are emperor/empresses.

The Ooni of Ife is styled as His Imperial Majesty. The Oba of Benin is NOT."


3. I am still waiting for your evidence from any serious text (of course not from Nairaland or a random Facebook post) of where the Oba of Benin was ever styled as "His Imperial Majesty". Never! He dared not.


4. Furthermore, "official" means "one who holds or is invested with an office" [Merriam-Webster Dictionary].

No where does this definition say it must be a country's government. A royal styling becomes "official" as soon as the palace sanctions it. May be it's hightime you sued all your English teachers and request refunds.

And as far as I know the Benin palace never uses "His Imperial Majesty" for the Oba of Benin. They dared not.

The Ife palace on the other hand uses "His Imperial Majesty" exclusively. Benin dared not.


5. All along I had thought I was having an exchange with an Edo child who knows even the most basic stuffs of his language and history. It's a shame you don't know why Omo N'Oba N'Edo Erediauwa I admitted that the kings of Ife were known in Benin kingdom as "Oghene".

I have read most of your comments, thanks for the enlightenment. Please also add to those children of indomie generation that does not know history.

Oba Ewuare, during his visit to the ooni of ife, in his speech which was quoted in the tribune thus:
“I want to say it gives me great pleasure to visit His Imperial Majesty today in countinuation of my nationwide thank you call to traditional rulers, and other eminent personalities that graced my coronation on October 20, 2016, which by the divine grace of God is also my birthday. This visit has long been planned but due traditional and other palace engagements in Benin, it is coming at this time. My post-coronation thank-you tour commenced with a visit last year to President Buhari and the Sultan of Sokoto. I thank God for making this visit possible.
https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-oba-of-benin-visited-ooni-of-ife/

davidnazee:


You are making Ife look like an empire or one mighty kingdom which it never was.

The title of “imperial majesty” is meant for emperors and conquerors neither of which Ooni of Ife is..

In comparison the Oba of Benin is an imperial majesty..
You are talking about official title, imperial majesty is not an official title given by Nigerian government

I don’t know the meaning of “Oghene” in Benin language but since u know Benin language you tell me the meaning abi..

If you don't know, maybe you should go and investigate. Do you know that any Crown Prince of Benin Kingdom need to come to Ìfẹ́ for Spiritual seclusion, before he can be crown King. Have you asked yourself why.

In history of hierarchy, the lower goes to higher for permission before being crown not other way around.

Mikehot:
Lol, that's is how it has always been na except he no longer needs the votes of the people who reverence the king in high regard

The guy dey form English and says reverence instead of revere ..you could have just stopped at
revere king but u go do pass yourself and butchered the whole thing

Torg77:


The guy dey form English and says reverence instead of revere ..you could have just stopped at
revere king but u go do pass yourself and butchered the whole thing

Mr faceless forum English police, sorry o

davidnazee:


All this you say still doesn’t make Ife an imperial power or Ooni an imperial majesty..
Any king can style themselves Imperial majesty..

As for comparing Benin to Ife I won’t argue that with you because you already know Ife was never an empire or a force to reckon with.

Please read this, even your His Royal knows the truth, even address OONI OF IFE AS IMPERIAL MAJESTY (https://tribuneonlineng.com/when-oba-of-benin-visited-ooni-of-ife/)

Meninmen:


Shut up and stop talking out of ignorance. Even as Lucky igbinedion (when he was governor) and his father (the esama of benin kingdom) were having issues with the late oba of Benin, it never crossed his mind one day to dethrone the oba. It can never happen. If you know the history of the Benin Kingdom, and the spiritual powers that follow occupiers of that seat, you wouldn't be talking like this


As Benin is, they already know their next oba (the first son of the current oba) and no governor or king makers can alter it.

E warrior! e don begin scream shut up upandan.
Politicians are power drunk and respecters of nobody.

This is d only kingdom where d king is truly d king....OBA GHATO KPERE ISEEEE.......

Oba to Benin is a demi God

Ask of holy arousa at akpakpava
Worshippers pray in the name of the oba there

Am a benin man I was born ND was taught how to fear dat throne

It's in me no matter where I go tmr I ll forever fear and give respect to Benin throne

Zico5:

If Benin is the greatest, what do we say about Ife

that you know because it's your place will I condemn my own

johnmattew:
u clearly don't know 5he kind of power oba of benin has..

oba of lagos,Olu of warri,obi of Onitsha, all kings in Edo and delta and some kings in rivers state are all under of benin

in your dreams...

Oba of Lagos?

yarimo:
let oba of Benin do anyhow first, that is when he will know that. kneeling down by a Governor or President is just formality.

him matter go be like egungun be careful na express you dey go

yarimo:
let oba of Benin do anyhow first, that is when he will know that. kneeling down by a Governor or President is just formality.

u think Benin is Lagos where their obas andafonja slaves licks tinubu ass over here we hold our oba of high esteem whatever he says is finalp

tammie24:
in your dreams...

Oba of Lagos?

do u guys have an oba cuz I am hearing this for d first time,,I thought it was by apiontment ,selection loyalty and lobbying ours have been the same family since ,,1814

osazsky:
do u guys have an oba cuz I am hearing this for d first time,,I thought it was by apiontment ,selection loyalty and lobbying ours have been the same family since ,,1814

does it matter how an Oba gets to the throne?

We are your king makers

Believe it or not!

Sewgon79:


If you don't know, maybe you should go and investigate. Do you know that any Crown Prince of Benin Kingdom need to come to Ìfẹ́ for Spiritual seclusion, before he can be crown King. Have you asked yourself why.

In history of hierarchy, the lower goes to higher for permission before being crown not other way around.

where did you get this ?
photos, write ups and all can you provide it ?

tammie24:
in your dreams...

Oba of Lagos?

read
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/lagos-oba-traces-origin-to-benin/&ved=2ahUKEwiY7oiyhaDoAhVL1BoKHb4yAMwQFjABegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0zLtMOXmaXyxwH2qgumqSE&cshid=1584397785294

Akhagbenidestin:
Benin is the greatest

Na yam?!

Chatbot1234:


where did you get this ?
photos, write ups and all can you provide it ?

How can you get pictures of spiritual seclusion. Go and investigate and they will tell you

Sewgon79:


How can you get pictures of spiritual seclusion. Go and investigate and they will tell you

if you can get the gist, there should be photos also.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
But Gabriel Igbenedion had serious fight with the late Oba of Benin. Igbenedion even took the Oba to court. Anyways I respect the Oba of Benin and Alaafin of Oyo. Those Kings na Deities.

The Oba was given the option to reply the court in writing or send a representative. But he decided to appear in person. A huge crowd walked with the Oba to the court.

It wasn't even the aim of Igbinedion to make Oba Erediauwa appear in court.

Remember Oba Erediauwa was educated at Cambridge (Law degree) and previously a consummate permanent secretary at Gowon's Cabinet office. Effectively head of the technocratic machinery of the military government back then. He did things thoroughly or not do at all.

It was out of great reverence to his father Oba Akenzua that he didn't strip Igbinedion of his Esama title. Igbinedion was made Esama by Oba Akenzua.
Just putting it in perspective.

Sewgon79:


If you don't know, maybe you should go and investigate. Do you know that any Crown Prince of Benin Kingdom need to come to Ìfẹ́ for Spiritual seclusion, before he can be crown King. Have you asked yourself why.

In history of hierarchy, the lower goes to higher for permission before being crown not other way around.

Oba of Benin does no seclusion in Ife. All the stations on the way to coronation are known. I can explain all to you if you wish to know.

Though done secretly at midnight, even the coronation station is known. Even if not seen by many. I have relatives who are either town chiefs, palace chiefs, priestly chief involved at virtually every stage of coronation.

Even one of the 6 original Elders ( 5 actually before Oloton came with Oramiyan to join them) of Benin (colloquially called kingmakers present) at coronation. They are actually king crowners. But in reality, since about 580 years nobody puts the crown on Oba's head. He does it himself in their presence.
Abeg ask people who know.

Sewgon79:


If you don't know, maybe you should go and investigate. Do you know that any Crown Prince of Benin Kingdom need to come to Ìfẹ́ for Spiritual seclusion, before he can be crown King. Have you asked yourself why.

In history of hierarchy, the lower goes to higher for permission before being crown not other way around.

Oba of Benin does no seclusion in Ife. All the stations on the way to coronation are known. I can explain all to you if you wish to know.

Though done secretly at midnight, even the coronation station is known. Even if not seen by many. I have relatives who are either town chiefs, palace chiefs, priestly chief involved at virtually every stage of coronation.

Even one of the 6 original Elders of Benin (colloquially called kingmakers present) at coronation. They are actually king crowners. But in reality, since about 580 years nobody puts the crown on Oba's head. He does it himself in their presence.
Abeg ask people who know.

yarimo:
let oba of Benin do anyhow first, that is when he will know that. kneeling down by a Governor or President is just formality.

Even your buhari can't do any thing to d oba of Bini except say he wan die

MyVILLAGEpeople:
But Gabriel Igbenedion had serious fight with the late Oba of Benin. Igbenedion even took the Oba to court. Anyways I respect the Oba of Benin and Alaafin of Oyo. Those Kings na Deities.

Lie kill u ...igbenedion later beg oba they did not go to court up till now he still pay homage to the oba ..

kygo:
Charley, one small squabble and them go change am for am. Burn him Oracle join. Politicians no be people you fit trust at all �

You nor well even president can't remove oba because it heriditory not appointment like d other oba

DNSPro:


One, you can not dethrone someone whose son is still the king till today.

Secondly, he voluntarily stepped down because of the war and killings. In order to stop further bloodshed, he decided to go with them.

mehn the man strong o

Stupidity of governorship.

Fake and lame kings or titlers with shady and unimpressive histories. Let them keep their titles, and give them authority over their supporters properties. Just make it clear to them that they will not be any more govt money, cars, any type of allowance, or tolerate any land grab from people that don't support them.