2prexios:


Yes bro, quite a while. Hope you are good bro? Thanks so much for your interest. I believe you have read my findings on the Ad?

Great knowledge is infective.

You see that they are incapable of addressing the issue questioning their identity . Even the most callous criminal breaks when you get them, imagine if they were the ones having that to use against you.

They will turn the anger to something else and you must be careful not to play their game, just keep the cool to see where else they want to hide. It's for the destroyer to find a prey.

The point is already made, only a fool wallow in their kind of polemic. Macof and ihumadinuoju were both Igbo, they needed Yoruba to be what they claimed for a purpose.

But can a total stranger become authority on Yoruba history? They were "phantom authority". They will strive but end up in shame at the end. The end is the progression of now.

addressing what issue. I should tell you my personal details so you stalk me or even trail me to my abode? This one that you are obsessed with me
And even if you were not to stalk me. Just what does giving you my personal deitals achieve? On a faceless forum anyone can lie about their personal details. Heck. All of you Hebrew and Arab wannabes probably don't have Yoruba ancestry. You can't question someone else when you are not free of suspicion of impersonation either. Have I seen your birth certificate and state of origin certificate? Do I know your face? Do I even know your name and your family members?

But buffoons like you don't think straight

Also let's be real historical research has nothing to do with whether you are from the place whose history is being talked about or not. It is only expected that natives would be exposed through the historical culture of their society to firm remembrance of their past. But what happens when a society fails to develop a solid historical culture, or foreign influences like colonisation and foreign religions corrupt their historical culture... Natives fail to have a firm remembrance of their past.

Ask any other historian about this..
But oh, well its not like you are even capable of understanding this


I am igbo, I am Edo I like how none of you attempt or pretend to find evidence for your claims anymore, seems you have found that you are all lost causes
It's now to try to "disqualify" those who challenge you from the discussion of yoruba history

2prexios:


Ihumadinuoju

"We" doesn't work in Yoruba/Igbo history.

Work out your history and allow the Yoruba work out her history. You can explore the "we" relativity the way you like but "we" don't share common original tradition, so explore science for your "Igbo" history.

Oko kii je ti baba at'omo k'oma laala.

Yoruba history is already "well established" on scientific "ground" and thus, not needing your "scientific" theory to function. You don't understand this "BLINK" about Yoruba history as ingrained in her culture.

That's what the thread is all about.

This clown is here saying Yoruba and Igbo don't share any common traditional thought
But some time ago he was trying to make out a Hebrew connection with the Yoruba word "ìkókó" and the igbo name "Okoro"
Same thing you try to do with Edo "Odion" and the Yoruba "Odiyan"

Yoruba history is already established... So you know that? Yet you have attacked the establishment of yoruba history for years, trying to rubbish it and turn Yoruba to Hebrew descendants
You are sick mr. Man

macof:


This clown is here saying Yoruba and Igbo don't share any common traditional thought
But some time ago he was trying to make out a Hebrew connection with the Yoruba word "ìkókó" and the igbo name "Okoro"
Same thing you try to do with Edo "Odion" and the Yoruba "Odiyan"

Yes I said that years ago, probably 7 or 8 years back. I said now that Igbo doesn't share common tradition of origin with the Yoruba in the simple sense that Oduduwa will appeared in their tradition.

By this token, I respect the uniqueness of Igbo tradition as different from Yoruba tradition. If I know nothing about it, the limitations are mine not Igbo tradition.

That difference extends to the uniqueness of Yoruba tradition too. If an Igbo man doesn't know a thing about Yoruba tradition, its not the limitations of tradition but that of the fellow.

The methodology inherent in this scenario is the principle of Set.

We do not share common tradition of origin. So on our original circle, Oduduwa is part of Yoruba property that does not extend to Igbo or others.

However, we were not neighbors by accident.

Whatever we shared with every other culture at our neighborhood (or beyond, as the case may be) with each having the same explanation is the "intersection" property so to say.

That property is what I mean by relativity: whatever it is we have in common with the Igbo or any of our neighbors. I am not dealing with the intersection, but with the unique Yoruba tradition.

Yoruba history is already established... So you know that? Yet you have attacked the establishment of yoruba history for years, trying to rubbish it and turn Yoruba to Hebrew descendants
You are sick mr. Man

Your sickness is assuming my inferences to twist my point to your information. Whatever you know multiplied by the fact that you are not Yoruba but pretending to be one equal to ZERO.

2prexios:


Yes I said that years ago, probably 7 or 8 years back. I said now that Igbo doesn't share common tradition of origin with the Yoruba in the simple sense that Oduduwa will appeared in their tradition.

By this token, I respect the uniqueness of Igbo tradition as different from Yoruba tradition. If I know nothing about it, the limitations are mine not Igbo tradition.

That difference extends to the uniqueness of Yoruba tradition too. If an Igbo man doesn't know a thing about Yoruba tradition, its not the limitations of tradition but that of the fellow.

The methodology inherent in this scenario is the principle of Set.

We do not share common tradition of origin. So on our original circle, Oduduwa is part of Yoruba property that does not extend to Igbo or others.

However, we were not neighbors by accident.

Whatever we shared with every other culture at our neighborhood (or beyond, as the case may be) with each having the same explanation is the "intersection" property so to say.

That property is what I mean by relativity: whatever it is we have in common with the Igbo or any of our neighbors. I am not dealing with the intersection, but with the unique Yoruba tradition.



Your sickness is assuming my inferences to twist my point to your information. Whatever you know multiplied by the fact that you are not Yoruba but pretending to be one equal to ZERO.

How does this address the post? another episode
You weren't talking about oduduwa moments ago. Suddenly you start ranting about oduduwa being exclusively Yoruba
Duh! Who said oduduwa was igbo?

macof:
addressing what issue. I should tell you my personal details so you stalk me or even trail me to my abode? This one that you are obsessed with me
And even if you were not to stalk me. Just what does giving you my personal deitals achieve? On a faceless forum anyone can lie about their personal details. Heck. All of you Hebrew and Arab wannabes probably don't have Yoruba ancestry. You can't question someone else when you are not free of suspension of impersonation either. Have I seen your birth certificate and state of origin certificate? Do I know your face? Do I even know your name and your family members?

But buffoons like you don't think straight

Also let's be real historical research has nothing to do with whether you are from the place whose history is being talked about or not. It is only expected that natives would be exposed through the historical culture of their society to firm remembrance of their past. But what happens when a society fails to develop a solid historical culture, or foreign influences like colonisation and foreign religions corrupt their historical culture... Natives fail to have a firm remembrance of their past.

Ask any other historian about this..
But oh, well its not like you are even capable of understanding this


I am igbo, I am Edo I like how none of you attempt or pretend to find evidence for your claims anymore, seems you have found that you are all lost causes
It's now to try to "disqualify" those who challenge you from the discussion of yoruba history

Be whatever you like to be, you are a pretender with excuses you will never take from anyone as you can see in your response.

I don't have to put you to shame about this, you are helping me to putting yourself in perpetual shame on autopilot every time.

Why do what your enemy will do against himself for him? The fire of my enemies shall devour them.

Just let me handle the complicated part.

macof:


This clown is here saying Yoruba and Igbo don't share any common traditional thought
But some time ago he was trying to make out a Hebrew connection with the Yoruba word "ìkókó" and the igbo name "Okoro"
Same thing you try to do with Edo "Odion" and the Yoruba "Odiyan"

Yoruba history is already established... So you know that? Yet you have attacked the establishment of yoruba history for years, trying to rubbish it and turn Yoruba to Hebrew descendants
You are sick mr. Man

stop this ibo and yoruba nonsense we are thousands of years apart in evolutionary tree, we are not cannibals or naked people , the point you people were 70yrs ago we yoruba were not like that 10,000yrs ago. no point in yoruba history we were ever roaming the forest bucknaked ,we are city builders our history go beyond Nigeria. Sudan , Mali , morrocco. gambia . Mauritania.. The steps and foot print left behind by our ancestors can still be seen ,,Ibn battuta renown world traveler and historian wrote about Yoruba oyo greatness in the 13 or 14 century Even Ahmed baba greatest african scholar .... Yoruba had been writing in ajami since 12 century ..so trying to merge us with ibo hairy gorillas is sacrilegious

macof:
I said you're a buffoon so obviously since your stupid claims have been rubbished the best thing you can think to do is to run a new campaign calling those more Yoruba than your father non-yorubas
I didn't know you knew my origin more than me, no wonder you are so bold to think you can dictate Yoruba origin to Yoruba people.. Now you want to also dictate whether I am Yoruba or not
Clowns

I didn't know I was Olufemi the igbo/Edo journalist until you guys told me
Same way your imagination is leading you to all sorts of conclusions on yoruba history is how you have been led to think you know my identity and that I am not yoruba
Keep it coming. Tell me more about myself that I didn't know

Stop typing rubbish and beating around the bush. You are a Yoruba-wannabe! We have seen it and know who you are. Nairaland rules forbid posting of personal information about members. Your cover is blown.

Do you not see that we no longer respond to macof on Yoruba topics?

Your cover is blown, omo atohun rinwa!

2prexios:


Be whatever you like to be, you are a pretender with excuses you will never take from anyone as you can see in your response.

I don't have to put you to shame about this, you are helping me to putting yourself in perpetual shame on autopilot every time.

Why do what your enemy will do against himself for him? The fire of my enemies shall devour them.

Just let me handle the complicated part.

Lmao. When nairaland discussion has made this one call me his enemy
So dramatic
Dumb church boy

MetaPhysical:


Stop typing rubbish and beating around the bush. You are a Yoruba-wannabe! We have seen it and know who you are. Nairaland rules forbid posting of personal information about members. Your cover is blown.

Do you not see that we no longer respond to macof on Yoruba topics?

Your cover is blown, omo atohun rinwa!

I said tell me more about myself since I don't know my lineage, you say nairaland rules forbids you. so how can you prove that you know who I am and that I am not yoruba?
You see how stupid you are

I'm just enjoying this new campaign of yours. No more ludicrous origin claims for the Yoruba nation, your energy is now towards the individual yorubas who see you for the lunatics that you are

BTW. Of course you don't respond. Do you have anything of worth to respond? All your time trying to force semitic origin on nairaland did you ever give a sensible response? I can't even count how many times I have corrected you on basic things you fail to realize

2prexios:


Yes bro, quite a while. Hope you are good bro? Thanks so much for your interest. I believe you have read my findings on the Ad?

Great knowledge is infective.

You see that they are incapable of addressing the issue questioning their identity. Even the most callous criminal breaks when you get them, imagine if they were the ones having that to use against you.

They will turn the anger to something else and you must be careful not to play their game, just keep the cool to see where else they want to hide. It's for the destroyer to find a prey.

The point is already made, only a fool wallow in their kind of polemic. Macof and ihumadinuoju were both Igbo, they needed Yoruba to be what they claimed for a purpose.

But can a total stranger become authority on Yoruba history? They were "phantom authority". They will strive but end up in shame at the end. The end is the progression of now.

Long time bro! Hope you are well and prospering.

No, i havent seen your writing on Ad. I would love to read it.

Na one by one Edumare dey reveal them. They say everyday for the thief one day for the owner.

Obalufon:
stop this ibo and yoruba nonsense we are thousands of years apart in evolutionary tree, we are not cannibals or naked people , the point you people were 70yrs ago we yoruba were not like that 10,000yrs ago. no point in yoruba history we were ever roaming the forest bucknaked ,we are city builders our history go beyond Nigeria. Sudan , Mali , morrocco. gambia . Mauritania.. The steps and foot print left behind by our ancestors can still be seen ,,Ibn battuta renown world traveler and historian wrote about Yoruba oyo greatness in the 13 or 14 century Even Ahmed baba greatest african scholar .... Yoruba had been writing in ajami since 12 century ..so trying to merge us with ibo hairy gorillas is sacrilegious

You are the biggest of the buffoons I've told you this before

Let me just correct few things here
1. Ibn Battuta never mentioned the Yoruba. I have read the reports of his Rihla. If you want to argue just present the page and quote where he mentioned any Yoruba kingdom or Oyo empire as you say
2. Yorùbá greatness does not negate the fact that Yoruba are a native African people. Africans can be great too, you dummy

macof:


You are the biggest of the buffoons I've told you this before

Let me just correct few things here
1. Ibn Battuta never mentioned the Yoruba. I have read the reports of his Rihla. If you want to argue just present the page and quote where he mentioned any Yoruba kingdom or Oyo empire as you say
2. Yorùbá greatness does not negate the fact that Yoruba are a native African people. Africans can be great too, you dummy

I don't know where they got this defeatist and inferior idea that native people can't be great unless they somehow have semitic ties. It's the most ludicrous thing i have heard in my life. That's like saying that collective black IQ can't become civilized without the invisible Hebrew hand.

This thread is a disgrace

Work out your history and allow the Yoruba work out her history. You can explore the "we" relativity the way you like but "we" don't share common original tradition, so explore science for your "Igbo" history.

macof:


How does this address the post? another episode
You weren't talking about oduduwa moments ago. Suddenly you start ranting about oduduwa being exclusively Yoruba
Duh! Who said oduduwa was igbo?

Kindly assume I know what's on my mind for once if you are clueless about my point. I know exactly what you want to do here: I didn't say "traditional thought" if that's what "common tradition of origin" means to you.

How hhypnotism works

Earlier, all I said is that the Yoruba and Igbo doesn't share common tradition of origin. Tradition of origin to me is how a people claims they originated.

But the hypnotist created a different phrase to take us from my point to somewhere else he can do the kill.

Once done, he can party with the Igbo man he is backing up and they can have party after party, party after party after party sort of things.

Meanwhile, this is a man who did not provide any indigenous proof of connection between Yoruba and Igbo, but whose slander phrase "traditional thought" is the joker

The joker is meant to do the talk while I do the proof. At the end he has brought nothing to the table but kindled my fire to devour me. But there's something foundermental.

Communication Theory

One of the basic theory in communication that we learned at school was that information derived from a source, then travel through s channel to a destination.

I am the source of ikoko and okoro, macof is the channel, he adds nothing to it for like, 8 years. Here is the destination.

Effective communication generates feedback. Mr. Daramola (para) would say.By this, my claims are effective.

Knowledge emanates from a source, it travel through a channel as information. If macof is knowledgeable, he should draw from his own resources.

But no, he wanted to hypnotise and take us from the issue to a smokescreen where he can laugh with his brother doing nothing.

2prexios:
Work out your history and allow the Yoruba work out her history. You can explore the "we" relativity the way you like but "we" don't share common original tradition, so explore science for your "Igbo" history.



Kindly assume I know what's on my mind for once if you are clueless about my point. I know exactly what you want to do here: I didn't say "traditional thought" if that's what "common tradition of origin" means to you.

How hhypnotism works

Earlier, all I said is that the Yoruba and Igbo doesn't share common tradition of origin. Tradition of origin to me is how a people claims they originated.

But the hypnotist created a different phrase to take us from my point to somewhere else he can do the kill.

Once done, he can party with the Igbo man he is backing up and they can have party after party, party after party after party sort of things.

Meanwhile, this is a man who did not provide any indigenous proof of connection between Yoruba and Igbo, but whose slander phrase "traditional thought" is the joker

The joker is meant to do the talk while I do the proof. At the end he has brought nothing to the table but kindled my fire to devour me. But there's something foundermental.

Communication Theory

One of the basic theory in communication that we learned at school was that information derived from a source, then travel through s channel to a destination.

I am the source of ikoko and okoro, macof is the channel, he adds nothing to it for like, 8 years. Here is the destination.

Effective communication generates feedback. Mr. Daramola (para) would say.By this, my claims are effective.

Knowledge emanates from a source, it travel through a channel as information. If macof is knowledgeable, he should draw from his own resources.

But no, he wanted to hypnotise and take us from the issue to a smokescreen where he can laugh with his brother doing nothing.

Don't say what you are not sure of

kayfra:


I don't know where they got this defeatist and inferior idea that native people can't be great unless they somehow have semitic ties. It's the most ludicrous thing i have heard in my life. That's like saying that collective black IQ can't become civilized without the invisible Hebrew hand.

This thread is a disgrace

While Yoruba is West African, no group is an island. The ruling family in england is Norman French but the people are Celts. What the Yoruba are known for globally is the ifa oracle and that surely is West african.

macof:


You are the biggest of the buffoons I've told you this before

Let me just correct few things here
1. Ibn Battuta never mentioned the Yoruba. I have read the reports of his Rihla. If you want to argue just present the page and quote where he mentioned any Yoruba kingdom or Oyo empire as you say
2. Yorùbá greatness does not negate the fact that Yoruba are a native African people. Africans can be great too, you dummy

Your white master has put demarcation. Are negro or african or sub saharan, Soon they will carve out yoruba with all reserach conducted on yoruba- the Unknown DNA and neanderthal DNA present in yoruba blood...Can't argue with you Mr macof is not my fault you were born into monkey lineage, live with it enjoy your kingdom of ape and stay off yoruba.. No sentiment bruh, you are who you are ,You know nothing .. if not for useless white people that merge us with useless people you will not be talking rubbish..

Obalufon:
Your white master has put demacartion. Are negro or african or sub saharan, Soon they will carve out yoruba with all Unknown DNA and neanderthal DNA present in yoruba DNA...can't argue with you Mr macof is not my fault you were born into monkey lineage, live with it enjoy your kingdom of ape. and stay off yoruba.. No sentiment bruh, you are who you are ,You know nothing .. if not for useless white people that merge us with useless people you will not be talking rubbish..

. Just look at this disgraceful nonsense that this one has in his mind
You even lack coherence

macof:
. Just look at this disgraceful nonsense that this one has in his mind
You even lack coherence

coherence na grammer you dey talk... soon you will see cohesive or adhesive . Dig it and keep it real in your thick skull.. no matter how much grammer you speak you will remain a monkey

2prexios:
Work out your history and allow the Yoruba work out her history. You can explore the "we" relativity the way you like but "we" don't share common original tradition, so explore science for your "Igbo" history.



Kindly assume I know what's on my mind for once if you are clueless about my point. I know exactly what you want to do here: I didn't say "traditional thought" if that's what "common tradition of origin" means to you.

How hhypnotism works

Earlier, all I said is that the Yoruba and Igbo doesn't share common tradition of origin. Tradition of origin to me is how a people claims they originated.

But the hypnotist created a different phrase to take us from my point to somewhere else he can do the kill.

Once done, he can party with the Igbo man he is backing up and they can have party after party, party after party after party sort of things.

Meanwhile, this is a man who did not provide any indigenous proof of connection between Yoruba and Igbo, but whose slander phrase "traditional thought" is the joker

The joker is meant to do the talk while I do the proof. At the end he has brought nothing to the table but kindled my fire to devour me. But there's something foundermental.

Communication Theory

One of the basic theory in communication that we learned at school was that information derived from a source, then travel through s channel to a destination.

I am the source of ikoko and okoro, macof is the channel, he adds nothing to it for like, 8 years. Here is the destination.

Effective communication generates feedback. Mr. Daramola (para) would say.By this, my claims are effective.

Knowledge emanates from a source, it travel through a channel as information. If macof is knowledgeable, he should draw from his own resources.

But no, he wanted to hypnotise and take us from the issue to a smokescreen where he can laugh with his brother doing nothing.

Another nonsense.
Even on the issue of tradition of origin
We find similarities driving the conclusion that there is a pattern among Lower Guinean cultures
1. A flooded world. 2. An ancestor coming from the heavens 3. Creation of Dry land by this ancestor 4. The ancestor settling and becoming the father of the nation
This "tradition of origin" is hence "common"

So what exactly is your point with this post?
You just rant without making any real point

macof:
. Just look at this disgraceful nonsense that this one has in his mind
You even lack coherence

i'm not claiming white just playing the same card you are trying to use to merge me with monkey" Niger congo research done almost a century ago by whites the same people are now making reasearch on us because of our intelligence... ibo man stay in your zone... we have nothing in common with ibos that is why you monkey hate yoruba with passion still yet you say put in our land

MetaPhysical:


Long time bro! Hope you are well and prospering.

No, i havent seen your writing on Ad. I would love to read it.

Na one by one Edumare dey reveal them. They say everyday for the thief one day for the owner.

B'Oloun bati fota eni han ni, kolee pani mo. My brov I'm pressing forward, I'm happy you find time to check out your hommies here, omo abule s'owo.

Our Igbo friends are striving to help us fix our history in proper linguistic "ancestry" made possible through precision machines and linguistic theory.

May we not be a spectator in our own history.

It's not straight about Ad but the clues derivable from it has really helped in decoding idumea and related ideas.

macof:


Another nonsense.
Even on the issue of tradition of origin
We find similarities driving the conclusion that there is a pattern among Lower Guinean cultures
1. A flooded world. 2. An ancestor coming from the heavens 3. Creation of Dry land by this ancestor 4. The ancestor settling and becoming the father of the nation
This "tradition of origin" is hence "common"

So what exactly is your point with this post?
You just rant without making any real point

It's not scientific if not repeated twice. Every culture sharing this tradition should be family all across the world, not just lower guinea: by this token, every culture claiming God were family.

Because Sargon and Moses shared the same tradition of birth, then the two historical figures should be the same.

Because Bible and Epic of Gilgamesh talked about flood, then Noa and Utnapishtim should be the same and both Summer and Semitic culture should merge.

Because the Hebrew claimed to be descended from Jacob and Esau, their story should be combined with Romans who descended from Romulus and Romus, because they were twins too.

You can see how I mentioned names and places here, stop your stupid superficial copy and paste nonsense. You copy stuffs and make it your own.

Knowledge is different from information.

2prexios:


It's not scientific if not repeated twice. Every culture sharing this traditional should be family all across the world, not just lower guinea:

Because Sargon and Moses shared the same tradition of birth, then the two historical figures should be the same.

Because Bible and epic of Gilgamesh talked about flood, then Noa and utnapishtim should be tthe same and both Summer and Semitic culture should merge.

Because the Hebrew claimed to be descended from Jacob and Esau, their story should be combined with Romans who descended from Romulus and Romus because they were twins too.

You can see how I mentioned names and places here, stop your stupid superficial copy and paste nonsense. You copy stuffs and make it your own.

Knowledge is different from information.

Again, what is your point? What exactly is to take home from this post?

lawani:
While Yoruba is West African, no group is an island. The ruling family in england is Norman French but the people are Celts. What the Yoruba are known for globally is the ifa oracle and that surely is West african.

Still any origin tracing us to Israel is not only far fetched but dumb amidst the scientific evidence we all have. If you state the reverse, then yeah there were migrations out of Africa. But the origin of an indigenous people is not in far away middle east. We need to cut the unscientific bullshit

I am speaking based on DNA tests. Most Yoruba folks have like 3-4% Senegal and Mali. The bulk of it is from Nigeria all the way to ivory cost with some Cameroon and central Africa mix (less than 5%)

macof:

Again, what is your point? What exactly is to take home from this post?

There is a source where your itemized points were derived, stop taking people for a fool, give them the substance that informed your conclusion.

Giving a sketchy points afterwards your conclusion is drawn insult every reader as being incapable of making conclusion on their own.

Now, this is fresh, put the traditions you are referring to up here. You made the claim, the burden of proof is now on you.

kayfra:


Still any origin tracing us to Israel is not only far fetched but dumb amidst the scientific evidence we all have. If you state the reverse, then yeah there were migrations out of Africa. But the origin of an indigenous people is not in far away middle east. We need to cut the unscientific bullshit

I am speaking based on DNA tests. Most Yoruba folks have like 3-4% Senegal and Mali. The bulk of it is from Nigeria all the way to ivory cost with some Cameroon and central Africa mix (less than 5%)

Yoruba is not from Israel but the language we speak is kemitic Egyptian which the Israelites spoke when they were slaves in Egypt.

2prexios:


B'Oloun bati fota eni han ni, kolee pani mo. My brov I'm pressing forward, I'm happy you find time to check out your hommies here, omo abule s'owo.

Our Igbo friends are striving to help us fix our history in proper linguistic "ancestry" made possible through precision machines and linguistic theory.

May we not be a spectator in our own history.

It's not straight about Ad but the clues derivable from it has really helped in decoding idumea and related ideas.

Thats the right approach. I have since ignored him and his contributions. Thank God he is doing it for Yoruba.....the only one with a rich history longer than human memory.


Yoruba Imperial said he was going to do something on Ad. I think his many bans have interrupted the work. Now, ive been lazy, I said i was going to keep that thread alive but i have not. He is going to be upset when he returns. I want to see what he uncovers.


I love your thread on Oriki. I just posted on it.

God bless you!

lawani:
Yoruba is not from Israel but the language we speak is kemitic Egyptian which the Israelites spoke when they were slaves in Egypt.

Niger-Congo and Afro-Asiatic languages are very different. Any similarities you find are anecdotal at best or by recent trading influences from the 18th century and above.

All these linguistic gymnastics with little regard to time references on both sides are more of an exercise in creativity than substance. It's about time we drop this semitism by force bullshit.

MetaPhysical:


Thats the right approach. I have since ignored him and his contributions. Thank God he is doing it for Yoruba.....the only one with a rich history longer than human memory.


Yoruba Imperial said he was going to do something on Ad. I think his many bans have interrupted the work. Now, ive been lazy, I said i was going to keep that thread alive but i have not. He is going to be upset when he returns. I want to see what he uncovers.


I love your thread on Oriki. I just posted on it.

God bless you!

Quite nostalgic! I've just read your post on the oriki, great insight as usual. I have a co-discussant in you.

I think Whydeh is François for Awanden, which in fon means Awan (penile, warfare) deh (tough). By this, Whydeh means battle strong.

The peoples oriki confirm the obvious: wanganvi, pekonu. Alojehvi, alojeh mapekoh. Wanganvi means "scion of the war head".

Somehow the Yoruba have equivalent for the word whydeh, Alakija, ikijah, battle strong. The earliest form of this pertains with Elekiyah. That's Beyoja.

The oriki I cited belonged to poenu, the people of the lion or feline (omo ekun) similar to the egbas' igbedu ekun tofitofi, omo ekun to tirutiru.

kayfra:


Niger-Congo and Afro-Asiatic languages are very different. Any similarities you find are anecdotal at best or by recent trading influences from the 18th century and above.

All these linguistic gymnastics with little regard to time references on both sides are more of an exercise in creativity than substance. It's about time we drop this semitism by force bullshit.

.


If it isn't Jewish in origin its Arabic in origin. Inferiority complex runs deep in many of our people my brother

kayfra:


Niger-Congo and Afro-Asiatic languages are very different. Any similarities you find are anecdotal at best or by recent trading influences from the 18th century and above.

All these linguistic gymnastics with little regard to time references on both sides are more of an exercise in creativity than substance. It's about time we drop this semitism by force bullshit.

if the man renamed oduduwa is from the Middle East because of the mention of nimrod, it does not mean the Yoruba are Semitic in origin. Not at all.

Cowards die many times before their death.

Shakespeare.