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Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by dominique(f): 11:01am On Apr 04, 2020 |
PHIPEX: If the government doesn't buy, private hospitals will buy, foreign hospitals are also looking for ventilators to buy at the moment. He doesn't need government directive before he starts producing. Did he ask government approval before producing cars? 5 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Xandelle: 11:02am On Apr 04, 2020 |
seunmsg: Stop saying this when Nigeria cannot export any finished product to any western country. There is no existing trade agreements to that effect. As per your last paragraph, do you even know that small start-ups are more flexible than big corporations? Do u even know anything or are you just blinded by hatred? Do you know that after the completion of dangotes refinery, he can't sell a drop of petrol to any country outside sub-Saharan Africa without government negotiations? Africa is the only place that anyone can dump anything without trade agreements. Don't use your standard of governance to judge others. 3 Likes |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by emmysoftyou: 11:04am On Apr 04, 2020 |
oyatz:your people gave the impression now we're living by the passion. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:07am On Apr 04, 2020 |
rusher14: Oh so you agree now that Bashir is lying? So why support a liar and how does the one they are still struggling with take care of the needs of the country? Innoson already have proven competence in autos so if they need money for input and process modifications, I don't see what exactly is the headache there. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by zicoraads: 11:07am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Most Igbos are entitled in nature. Not all of course. He's a business man. He should produce and sell to the FG. If they don't want, there are several countries who will happily buy. 3 Likes |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by eyinjuege: 11:08am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: Innoson should go ahead. It's a business, and he has to take the risk. There is a need for it, at the moment in Europe and US. He can try and cash in and make his profit sharp sharp before the market closes. I'm sure if he has assembled or produced some, even Nigeria will buy from him at his own price. Many Nigerians generally like begging and having things for free, they have no shame hence why they were doing babiala from the Tesla guy. Someone up there mentioned Nigerians will take poison and drink simply because it's free. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by eyinjuege: 11:11am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: They can get a loan from a bank to do this. The FG will not give private companies money to produce things, otherwise every private company in Nigeria will be asking for mobilisation fees. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by rusher14: 11:11am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: I never said he's lying. There's no evidence that he's lying and the commentary coming out of BUK is that they've been working on it. Besides, BUK hasn't come to the media seeking funding for the project. On the other hand, where is Innosons prototype for which he seeks subvention? 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by talk2aikay(m): 11:12am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Innosson needed reassurance that the government would buy his ventilators considering that the federal government only recently bought Toyotas instead of IVMs. We all know Nigerians like consuming foreign goods more than the ones made from with. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:14am On Apr 04, 2020 |
eyinjuege: Innoson does not need to go into ventilator. It's not their area of core competence. The reason why other countries are calling automakers in is because of their capacity for large scale manufacturing and skill in ACs compressors which work on same principle. That said, it's an emergency thing not a business model like you people are making it to be. I see some people asking him to take a loan and I wonder which bank will give you a loan for a production that will last only for four months. That's a very high risk loan and it's almost impossible to get. Nigeria does not have a ventilator manufacturing company locally so nothing wrong if we utilize innoson's expertise. Govt is the one supposed to make the contact initially self not innoson but just that begging white people is a national policy in Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Dpharisee: 11:15am On Apr 04, 2020 |
GuyfawkesAB: Why bring Igbo into the discussion, it's business we are talking about, you made your point, no need tagging Igbo in it |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Xandelle: 11:16am On Apr 04, 2020 |
dominique: Are private hospitals the ones building isolation centres? Do you even listen to yourself? 4 Likes |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by slowice(m): 11:18am On Apr 04, 2020 |
We are so naive in this country. Innoson does not produce ventilators and has no business interest in doing so, he made the offer given the situation of things which is a noble thing to do. He will ve to retool to be able to produce it is left for the govt the engage his company and negotiate if they need the ventilators. Trumps government reached out to GM before they started production and that's what serious government do. I hope it doesn't come to a time when we will be in dire need of ventilators cos then all this rubbish talk ll stop and our govt will be serious about it. Imagine what an aide to the president is saying, it goes to show how petty this government is 2 Likes |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:18am On Apr 04, 2020 |
rusher14:Working on it is not same as producing it or are you also deficient in English as Bashir? I've not seen the news of BUK saying they are working on ventilators. If you have a link kindly share with me. Like I already told you, Innoson does not need prototypes, they have proven competence which needs modification to mass produce. The money he's asking for is for the inputs and modification and i'm sure that can even be negotiated if govt shows interest instead of begging Elon. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by bamasite2: 11:19am On Apr 04, 2020 |
I don't want to take too much time with you. Just start with this: https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL5N1UK61J If you must know, many of the financiers of the dangote refinery are foreign banks! Agboriotejoye: 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by mekaboy(m): 11:20am On Apr 04, 2020 |
eyinjuege: Why didn't the companies in US and UK see it as a business and dive into production? 2 Likes |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:20am On Apr 04, 2020 |
eyinjuege: The govt gives road construction companies 15% mobilization fees are you aware? Which bank will give you a loan for a project of four months with no guarantee of high sales? Besides, it's a public emergency not a business matter, the govt should sit with him and discuss. All of you making it a business matter are simply ignorant 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:24am On Apr 04, 2020 |
jaxxy:What does the number of years have to do with the issue on ground. Production capacity may differ truly but at least Innoson cannot in anyway be compared with BUK abi? Stop your ignorance. The computerized aspect is for control just like your AC control in your car. The ventilators are basically mechanical!! That's the ones that work. Mechanical pressure that the lungs can't provide by itself is what the ventilators are expected to give. Stop being ignorant. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by rusher14: 11:25am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: https://www.ripplesnigeria.com/covid-19-bayero-university-kano-begins-process-to-produce-ventilators/ https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/covid-19-buk-commissions-engineers-to-fabricate-ventilators-produces-hand-sanitisers.html By the way, GM is in collaboration with Ventec life systems for the production of ventilators. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Xbee007(m): 11:26am On Apr 04, 2020 |
leokid866:Please, kindly make a post on this. We will encourage the mods to push it to the front page where it's much needed. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:29am On Apr 04, 2020 |
diplomat058: I'll advise you to read up on production. You're getting things mixed up!! |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:33am On Apr 04, 2020 |
bigtt76: Unfortunately, BUK has not produced any ventilator. That one is a barefaced lie. If you have anything to the contrary kindly share. This Bashir is notorious for spreading lies and propaganda from Kano. Innoson on the other hand is a proven car maker/assembler. Making ventilators is something he'll be able to do with some modifications. Where he gets his parts from will be his cup of kunu |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by ajadematanle: 11:33am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Innoson is a guy man. He wanted FG approval so as to use it to seek loan from CBN at zero interest and later convert it to import his auto spare parts for production of innoson vehicles. Before you know his tribe would be talking trash. Does it need any approval to start production if he has the capabilities. Today if I have inspiration to produce corona vaccine, I will be a billionaire in dollar in less than 1 week 3 Likes |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by eyinjuege: 11:35am On Apr 04, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: Government doesn't need it for now, hence probably why no contact has been made. Instead, he seems to be the one who needs it, hence he is making contact. GM was practically ordered/forced into producing ventilators because they know the wahala involved. Our needs are different from those of Europe and America for now, and it will not be financially prudent for the government to commit billions into a production we don't have a need for. I'm happy an indigenous company is trying to think outside the box and start producing locally, but I really think he should source for his funds too. Believe it or not, Nigeria doesn't have any money lying around (thanks to poor leadership). I think we have to put money on widespread testing kits first and foremost. But that's another discussion entirely. (Btw, you contradict yourself when you say ventilator production is not his area of core competence, yet at the same time want the govt to utilize his expertise.) 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by deScifa(m): 11:41am On Apr 04, 2020 |
The simple logic here is that Innoson needs govt fund for mobilization so he can make orders from China and put its name just like innoson vehicles. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Nobody: 11:41am On Apr 04, 2020 |
See hatred oozing out from here BUK don't product any ventilator. Bashir is just a propagandist like the rest of them. U guys don't make research. I wouldn't give a thought to his rant if I were some sensible guys here. Should innoson see that twit, he wouldn't hesitate to make his final decision on anything ventilator. And so u know, right now, any company that will start producing ventilators anywhere in the world has 100% backing from their various govts. Infact, it's govt that mandate them to do so. E.g. Ford motors. Again, read. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by emmysoftyou: 11:43am On Apr 04, 2020 |
loswhite:so what of the money they have collected to fight coronavirus in Nigeria, remember, otedola and all the richest men in Nigeria raised supported funds to fight covid19 ..let the federal government use the funds to purchased ventilators from him rather than embezzling all the money gotten to fight corona virus .. Useless government. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by leokid866: 11:46am On Apr 04, 2020 |
igboamakaaa:They say knowledge is power so I'm about to give you some knowledge so you can rise above your stupidity and head into power......have you ever heard of Tunde Folawiyo? I'm guessing not....see Mr Tunde and his company had been searching for Oil in Lagos for 25 years......in 2016 they finally discovered it, the last four years of their operations was sponsored majorly by Dangote who believed in their search, after the discovery all rights were settled and dangote decided he was going to build his refinery in Lagos. If it were just for him to be Refining oil that NNPC produced he could have chosen to build his refinery in any of the oil producing regions in the east, but in Lagos not only can he refine oil from others he can refine his own as well cause he has a source of his own. Hope you now have knowledge and will stop showing your stupidity and commenting just because you can?. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by eyinjuege: 11:46am On Apr 04, 2020 |
mekaboy: When the government needs his help, they will ask for it, unless there is another agenda. Is there? |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Nobody: 11:46am On Apr 04, 2020 |
dominique: U don't know what u are talking about at all. Medical equipment are not essential goods or entertainment. U don't go into manufacturing core medical equipment without help and partnership from the govt. It's impossible. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by leokid866: 11:47am On Apr 04, 2020 |
BeautifulMind2:Google is your friend....talk to him. And stop showing your ignorance to justify your hate. |
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