GRIMMJOE:
I'm asking because this argument has been to you about who is right and who is wrong, an attitude associated to teenagers. (This is not an insult if you like start fighting)

No one is having an argument, except you having arguments with yourself.

The discussion, hasnt been, who is right and who is right, rather it has been about laying down alternatives against each others, then letting the anonymous readership make informed personal judgement calls..

You're typing like a drowning man, clutching at any available straw in sight, lol

GRIMMJOE:
Does that mean serpent can talk

It means, a now non-existent serpent, used to talk

GRIMMJOE:
... are you trolling.

Are you for real?

MuttleyLaff:
No one is having an argument, except you having arguments with yourself.

The discussion, hasnt been, who is right and who is right, rather it has been about laying down alternatives against each others, then letting the anonymous readership make informed personal judgement calls..

You're typing like a drowning man, clutching at any available straw in sight, lol

Fast to reply someones quote but fails to reply yours.

GRIMMJOE:
Fast to reply someones quote but fails to reply yours.

I am 99.9% always fast on to replying to ALL your posts and thats including mine. Quit the doing the Pinocchio please, its getting embarrassingly stale and cringeworthy

MuttleyLaff:
It means, a now non-existent serpent, used to talk

Are you for real?

You believe a serpent can speak same way a Muslim believe a horse can fly, they are all fictional stories.

MuttleyLaff:
I am 99.9% always fast on to replying to ALL your posts and thats including mine. Quit the doing the Pinocchio please, its getting embarrassingly stale and cringeworthy

And you'll call what you just wrote a sensible discussion.

GRIMMJOE:
I'm asking because this argument has been to you about who is right and who is wrong, an attitude associated to teenagers. (This is not an insult if you like start fighting)

Matters like this doesn't require desperate measures but a calm approach!

Google on "soldiers" and "army", carefully examine how they used to equip themselves in ancient times and how they do today!

It's simply a means protecting the interest of the few who wants to rule others. But they brainwash their fellowman into thinking it's a means of protection. If you think deeply you will realize that people kill people to protect the interest of those ruling over them.

So the problem in the world is Politics, the players segregate people to make them believe in Racism. RELIGION is just a borrowed tool but gradually it's becoming obsolete!

GRIMMJOE:
You believe a serpent can speak same way a Muslim believe a horse can fly, they are all fictional stories.

A no more existing serpent once had the capability to speak. Period and that is foregone. Now, pigs dont fly, neither horses fly or ever flew. Please move on and leave serpent RIP to LAWMA, lol.

GRIMMJOE:
And you'll call what you just wrote a sensible discussion.

It wont be sensible discussion for the like of you nah, lol. Nothing new under the sun, lol

MuttleyLaff:
It means, a now non-existent serpent, used to talk

You can't even prove this serpent.

Unlike max.mus he believes this snake still exist.

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GRIMMJOE:
You can't even prove this serpent.
Unlike Maximus69 he believes this snake still exist.

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Drowning man clutching at straws again

MuttleyLaff:
A no more existing serpent once had the capability to speak. Period and that is foregone. Now, pigs dont fly, neither horses fly or ever flew. Please move on and leave serpent RIP to LAWMA, lol.

And why did you believe a serpent spoke, but can't believe horses fly? Because you've been thought which fictional story to believe, just like a Muslim been thought to believe in a flying horse.

GRIMMJOE:
You can't even prove this serpent.

Unlike max.mus he believes this snake still exist.

The talking snake and donkey story is just another theory that stands alongside others like evolution and co!

That's why i asked you as an adult that you would have loved to be addressed, what is the benefit of the Knowledge (informations you've accumulated so far) in your life?

How do you think your children could benefit from the things you know?

Worrying yourself about other people's theory when you can't present any practical benefit in the theory you hold onto is childish!

Maximus69:


Matters like this doesn't require desperate measures but a calm approach!

Google on "soldiers" and "army", carefully examine how they used to equip themselves in ancient times and how they do today!

It's simply a means protecting the interest of the few who wants to rule others. But they brainwash their fellowman into thinking it's a means of protection. If you think deeply you will realize that people kill people to protect the interest of those ruling over them.

So the problem in the world is Politics, the players segregate people to make them believe in Racism. RELIGION is just a borrowed tool but gradually it's becoming obsolete!

You're saying Muttleylaff is brain washed, but he's been the one liking your comments.

Imagine a world humans dump fiction and face reality, join hands and work together.
No racial difference, no religion difference, no tribal difference.

MuttleyLaff:
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Drowning man clutching at straws again

Prove a Serpent spoke, you're screaming straws.

GRIMMJOE:
And why did you believe a serpent spoke, but can't believe horses fly? Because you've been thought which fictional story to believe, just like a Muslim been thought to believe in a flying horse.

Simples, the word of living God said a serprent spoke, but never said horses fly, lol

GRIMMJOE:
You're saying MuttleyLaff is brain washed,

I wear that on my sleeve with pride

GRIMMJOE:
but he's been the one liking your comments.

MuttleyLaff is unbiased. When MuttleyLaff sees a good point being made, it gets a like stamp. I have liked a few of your posts too, dont you know, lol

GRIMMJOE:
Imagine a world humans dump fiction and face reality, join hands and work together.
No racial difference, no religion difference, no tribal difference.

We need religion because religion is about compassion, empathy, showing and having considerations to next person, others

GRIMMJOE:
Prove a Serpent spoke, you're screaming straws.

As if that will bring food to your table, lol. I am just pleased that you have now taken to correction and begun using the correct noun, lol

GRIMMJOE:
You're saying Muttleylaff is brain washed, but he's been the one liking your comments.

Imagine a world humans dump fiction and face reality, join hands and work together.
No racial difference, no religion difference, no tribal difference.

Race, Religion, Tribe!

My friend, all these have nothing to do with the problem we have!

There are unseen higher intelligent beings around us. They're the ones influencing people to think other people need to be tamed.
There is a God (Creator the Supreme Being) who supposed to be our source of guide on right and wrong, the unseen beings rebelled against God in order to rule humans, their presence could only be felt by the way normal people kill one another. They're happier than ever that supposed intelligent beings like you can't even grasp the fact that they exist!

Until you and i acknowledge the existence of these spirit beings, and learn how to work against the evil schemes of the rebels amongst them, people will continue to kill people!

That's the import of the Theory you keep negating without calmness!

Maximus69:


The talking snake and donkey story is just another theory that stands alongside others like evolution and co!

That's why i asked you as an adult that you would have loved to be addressed, what is the benefit of the Knowledge (informations you've accumulated so far) in your life?

How do you think your children could benefit from the things you know?

Worrying yourself about other people's theory when you can't present any practical benefit in the theory you hold onto is childish!

I'm sorry bro, Atheism doesn't promise 72 virgins, or milk and honey it's simply disbelief in existence of God.

Terrorist were once children, ritualist were once children, Jungle Justice participants (murderers) once children.
All the above won't exist if they were raised not to believe in fiction.

Ever wonder why people see nothing wrong killing an old women as a witch because the Bible says its okay and you're actually making the world a better place.
Same with burning a thief guilty or not, because their God does it so there's nothing wrong, do I need go on.

Indoctrination is powerful, it made a man kill his twin nephew for ritual to a God he can't prove exist, but will fight and defend him.

The benefit my children will have is not becoming a ritualist, terrorist, seeing nothing wrong lying, free from superstition, take responsibility for their life than hitting their head on the ground five times a day.

MuttleyLaff:
Simples, the word of living God said a serprent spoke, but never said horses fly, lol

I wear that on my sleeve with pride

MuttleyLaff is unbiased. When MuttleyLaff sees a good point being made, it gets a like stamp. I have liked a few of your posts too, dont you know, lol

We need religion because religion is about compassion, empathy, showing and having considerations to next person, others

As if that will bring food to your table, lol. I am just pleased that you have now taken to correction and begun using the correct noun, lol

Think it na, your God doesn't exist, can't you see how it's literary impossible for you to prove any of the fiction.

Ask your self why can't you prove it, why? (do not reply this question, just sit and think, for 5minute just think)

GRIMMJOE:
I'm sorry bro, Atheism doesn't promise 72 virgins, or milk and honey it's simply disbelief in existence of God.

Terrorist were once children, ritualist were once children, Jungle Justice participants (murderers) once children.
All the above won't exist if they were raised not to believe in fiction.

Ever wonder why people see nothing wrong killing an old women as a witch because the Bible says its okay and you're actually making the world a better place.
Same with burning a thief guilty or not, because their God does it so there's nothing wrong, do I need go on.

Indoctrination is powerful, it made a man kill his twin nephew for ritual to a God he can't prove exist, but will fight and defend him.

The benefit my children will have is not becoming a ritualist, terrorist, seeing nothing wrong lying, free from superstition, take responsibility for their life than hitting their head on the ground five times a day.

You've tried in your own way, but there is more to what you're thinking!

Some believe in directing others on how to live and monitoring the progress of others so that these ones doesn't take over the control from them!

So whether your children believe in fairytale or not, they're still at the mercy of the politicians, they will still kill your children like fowls if they refuse to subject themselves to their rule!

That's where the problem lies NOT in believes, the politicians (dictators) snatched the idea of believes to gain more power (control), humans can't live without believes because believe connotes trust and there's no way we can coexist without some measure of TRUST (BELIEVE)!

Maximus69:


Race, Religion, Tribe!

My friend, all these have nothing to do with the problem we have!

There are unseen higher intelligent beings around us. They're the ones influencing people to think other people need to be tamed.
There is a God (Creator the Supreme Being) who supposed to be our source of guide on right and wrong, the unseen beings rebelled against God in order to rule humans, their presence could only be felt by the way normal people kill one another. They're happier than ever that supposed intelligent beings like you can't even grasp the fact that they exist!

Until you and i acknowledge the existence of these spirit beings, and learn how to work against the evil schemes of the rebels amongst them, people will continue to kill people!

That's the import of the Theory you keep negating without calmness!

Are this the same demons you told me exist and occupied space? you've start again, now if I ask you for their existence you will be running in circle.

GRIMMJOE:
I'm sorry bro, Atheism doesn't promise 72 virgins, or milk and honey it's simply disbelief in existence of God.

Terrorist were once children, ritualist were once children, Jungle Justice participants (murderers) once children.
All the above won't exist if they were raised not to believe in fiction.

Ever wonder why people see nothing wrong killing an old women as a witch because the Bible says its okay and you're actually making the world a better place.
Same with burning a thief guilty or not, because their God does it so there's nothing wrong, do I need go on.

Indoctrination is powerful, it made a man kill his twin nephew for ritual to a God he can't prove exist, but will fight and defend him.

The benefit my children will have is not becoming a ritualist, terrorist, seeing nothing wrong lying, free from superstition, take responsibility for their life than hitting their head on the ground five times a day.

This is sad. It seems you jerk off on attacking a straw man, lol. Enjoy, lol

GRIMMJOE:
Think it na, your God doesn't exist, can't you see how it's literary impossible for you to prove any of the fiction.

Ask your self why can't you prove it, why? (do not reply this question, just sit and think, for 5minute just think)

Your sheer existence is just enough proof that God does exist. There defo is God, with the way you've been going, lol. There defo is a longsuffering in silence God. Diaris God.

GRIMMJOE:
Are this the same demons you told me exist and occupied space?
you've start again, now if I ask you for their existence you will be running in circle.

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I am lol at the emboldened

GRIMMJOE:
Are this the same demons you told me exist and occupied space? you've start again, now if I ask you for their existence you will be running in circle.

MuttleyLaff once asked you if you believe that air exist, you answer "YES" whereas you can't point to any visible object called "AIR".

It controls the sea, it blows the mighty gigantic trees, it carries the tornadoes and destroys lives and properties.

Please is that not why you agree that there is AIR around us?

Well there are spirits around us and they're UNSEEN higher intelligent beings, their existence (presence) could only be grasped when you consider the attitude of VISIBLE lesser intelligent beings around you!

The Bible's theory about the talking snake gives a clue to this, because snakes can't talk so there is an UNSEEN higher intelligent being that possessed the snake to communicate with VISIBLE intelligent beings. Note that both creatures are INTELLIGENT, but one wants to gain control over the other, that's why he schemed all those plans to get them away from the Supreme Being who supposed to be their source of guidance!

All these will just continue to sound like fairytales to a lay man like you, but go out there and solve the problem of people killing people without you also carrying weapons to become a killer yourself.

And mind you, the killings will not stop no matter how many killers you're able to kill before you are also killed!

That's the import of the theory you're negating without calmness!

@ GRIMMJOE

I have said it over and over again on this forum that what we need to solve our problem is God!

But first of all we need to know who is the TRUE God and his purposes!

The unseen spirits have set so many traps and billions have been caught unaware.

You said "imagine a world humans dump fictions and face reality, join hands and work together"

To me this comment sounds like "forget about air and it's direction, let us go out there and stop the tornadoes"

Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only organization doing what you wish so dearly. But your obstinate mindset regarding the existence of God is blurring your vision so that you're now arguing, arguing and arguing hopelessly on Nairaland to make people reason with you, whereas there are over 8.7 million individuals out there WORKING zealously to achieve the same thing you're thinking!

The only problem you have now is ATHEISM, just drop the ego and calm down to see if there are people around you doing what you want.

Remember you're not God, so you can only join an existing group working towards your preconceived goal (target), you can't be the one setting the pattern to approach the target!

MuttleyLaff:
This is sad. It seems you jerk off on attacking a straw man, lol. Enjoy, lol

You sheer existence is just enough proof that God does exist. There defo is God, with the way you've been going, lol. There defo is a longsuffering in silence God. Diaris God.

I exist, God doesn't.

GRIMMJOE:
I exist, God doesn't.

So said the fool, who in his/her heart said, God doesn't exist.

Nothing insulting in there nor to you, but just an observational truth, lol

You see the circle I'm talking about.

Maximus69:


MuttleyLaff once asked you if you believe that air exist, you answer "YES" whereas you can't point to any visible object called "AIR".

It controls the sea, it blows the mighty gigantic trees, it carries the tornadoes and destroys lives and properties.

Please is that not why you agree that there is AIR around us?

Well there are spirits around us and they're UNSEEN higher intelligent beings, their existence (presence) could only be grasped when you consider the attitude of VISIBLE lesser intelligent beings around you!

The Bible's theory about the talking snake gives a clue to this, because snakes can't talk so there is an UNSEEN higher intelligent being that possessed the snake to communicate with VISIBLE intelligent beings. Note that both creatures are INTELLIGENT, but one wants to gain control over the other, that's why he schemed all those plans to get them away from the Supreme Being who supposed to be their source of guidance!

All these will just continue to sound like fairytales to a lay man like you, but go out there and solve the problem of people killing people without you also carrying weapons to become a killer yourself.

And mind you, the killings will not stop no matter how many killers you're able to kill before you are also killed!

That's the import of the theory you're negating without calmness!

The Bible never mentioned the snake was posses.

And even so you claimed because animals can talk that's why it's believable that a snake can talk.


Air exist it occupies space, demons occupies your illusions.

GRIMMJOE:
You see the circle I'm talking about.
The Bible never mentioned the snake was posses.

And even so you claimed because animals can talk that's why it's believable that a snake can talk.

Air exist it occupies space, demons occupies your illusions.

Leaving talking snake for LAWMA. There never was a talking snake anywhere in the Bible ojaare.

Please make una talk better thing jor. Biko.

GRIMMJOE:
You see the circle I'm talking about.
The Bible never mentioned the snake was posses.
And even so you claimed because animals can talk that's why it's believable that a snake can talk.
Air exist it occupies space, demons occupies your illusions.

Theories are meant to be inculcated with wisdom in order to help the learner know the practical application of the theory!

You've read the Bible and seen the theory but if you don't ask for the practical application, you will trash it as illusions, yet the problems that only this theory can solve stands before you immovable!

That's why i told you "go out there and stop those killing people, without getting harmed, yourself killed or you becoming a killer too"

You call the only efficacious theory illusion, but you can't figure out a better theory than this!

Maximus69:
you can't be the one setting the pattern to approach the target!

YES! YES!! YES!!! finally you understand, only me can't do it, but if we join hands and work together we can all approach the target and make this world a better place.

I'm not a Pastor, I'm not asking you to give me money, only saying we should abandon all that has failed us, join hands together, and together we can do it.

Through out history we've never united, do you think the Government is stupíd if 195 million Nigerians match to the street and they'll do nothing, but religion difference won't allow a Muslim work with a Christian.

Do you think the Government you claim is controlling us can control 7.9 Billion people, united to reach this target.

But instead we fight among ourselves, just look at you and Muttleylaff, can't even decide on a name to call the God you worship, Boko haram beheading the opposite religion, a certain tribe believe they should be the only one to remain in power, Christian starving themselves in hope of a better tomorrow, while those that truly lacks food are dying of hunger.