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paulGrundy:
the only solution is by encouraging early marriage.

OkpanachiMax:
No, you are the problem.
You are simply opposing the truth, and you will continue living in bondage if you don't accept it.

Ochiban:
I completely disagree. In Sharia countries where women are completely covered- men are vibrating from seeing a girls shoulder. In nigeria, men vibrate when they see thighs. In Europe where dressing is scandalous, men vibrate only for naked women. It shows that its not what the woman is wearing that is the issue, otherwise all men would behave the same to the same amount of exposure.

Remember that int he beginning, both were naked.

This immorality is WITHIN us. let us stop with the original sin of Adam and Eve with blaming outside influences for our internal lack of faith.

I'm not saying social media and outside things like porn are good- they make things worse for sure. But please stop putting the responsibility of your own holiness on someone else's dressing or TV. Vow within your own heart that you will not look at another woman lustfully

mildflame:
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Old women are being raped by teenagers
Toddlers are being raped by adults
Wives are being raped everyday...
But for you is to specifically assumed that indecent dressing by women is the major cause, are you being fair or u just want to satisfy the masculine folks?
If you can't blame male superior complex, drugs, badly brought up male children and the general society but you feel the female dressing is the root cause, I wish you well

Ochiban:
I completely disagree. In Sharia countries where women are completely covered- men are vibrating from seeing a girls shoulder. In nigeria, men vibrate when they see thighs. In Europe where dressing is scandalous, men vibrate only for naked women. It shows that its not what the woman is wearing that is the issue, otherwise all men would behave the same to the same amount of exposure.

Remember that int he beginning, both were naked.

This immorality is WITHIN us. let us stop with the original sin of Adam and Eve with blaming outside influences for our internal lack of faith.

I'm not saying social media and outside things like porn are good- they make things worse for sure. But please stop putting the responsibility of your own holiness on someone else's dressing or TV. Vow within your own heart that you will not look at another woman lustfully

Ochiban:
I completely disagree. In Sharia countries where women are completely covered- men are vibrating from seeing a girls shoulder. In nigeria, men vibrate when they see thighs. In Europe where dressing is scandalous, men vibrate only for naked women. It shows that its not what the woman is wearing that is the issue, otherwise all men would behave the same to the same amount of exposure.

Remember that int he beginning, both were naked.

This immorality is WITHIN us. let us stop with the original sin of Adam and Eve with blaming outside influences for our internal lack of faith.

I'm not saying social media and outside things like porn are good- they make things worse for sure. But please stop putting the responsibility of your own holiness on someone else's dressing or TV. Vow within your own heart that you will not look at another woman lustfully

Maximus69:
The Watchtower Organization (Jehovah's Witnesses) treated this issue some 46 years ago in a Watchtower magazine, a religionist and Church founder named "Kumuyi" misconstrued the publication and immediately told all his followers to go and trash their TV sets and began some scrutinizing of his female congregants regarding dress code.
Today only Jehovah's Witnesses are living up to the standard, the group granted with wisdom so they had a balance view of morals, entertainment, dressing and grooming.
Kumuyi and his church have returned to the TV in fact they now go for the latest technology, because he stole the idea that wasn't granted to him. Daniel 12:10

The world is filled with rebellious spirit beings (demons) today and they're fighting really hard to promote so many hurtful desires {Galatians 5:19-21} the only way out is to keep associating with God's people where we can be encouraged to love and fine works {Hebrew 10:24-25} by so doing we will continue to produce the fruitage of God's holy spirit {Matthew 7:16-18} and our faith will not die! James 2:26 compare to Luke 18:8

God bless you!

paulGrundy:
what this one saying?
what made you assume that Kumuiyis teachings is influenced by watchtower?

mind you, Christian groups have been preaching against sexual immortality before the birth of Rutherford.



churches like chosen, classical Rccg and apostolic faith church from where he started His ministry also hold strict views similar to kumuiyis. and guess what? his teachings and ministry is similar to apostolic faith which is his major influence. where are all this garbage coming from?
i guess its safe to say that the watchtower stole the idea of confession of ones faults from the catholic church. going by your reasoning.

am not suprised though, you are from a religion that teaches lies!!

mignone:
Marriage isn't an automatic ticket to sexual purity; whoever hasn't been delivered frm d shackles of promiscuity will continue even in marriage.

Futurejoy:
Hmmmn please tell me more about the Publication or where I can find it. I never knew there was an action that led Pastor Kumuyi to revolutionize his church.

Maximus69:
You have tried my friend but carefully look into this matter!

Jesus is a friend of sinners. And do you see Jehovah's Witnesses stay away from drunkards and prostitutes during our preaching and teaching work?

Of course we expose all the tactics of false prophets (Pastors) as they're milking people's pockets dry, that's why they say so many evil things about us!

Now who are those that are prepared to visit you in your homes with the message of PEACE? And who are those inciting the people against us?

For your information, people do respond positively to our message where there is no Churches because they treat us with respect due to the way we present ourselves. But when we meet with Churchgoers, it's one argument or the other yet they can't find what they believe in the Bible!

The only way to distinguish between false Christians and real is LOVE!

True Christians will have love amongst themselves while false Christians can never have true love in their midst.
The secret is Satan have planted so many time bombs in false religions e.g Racism, Politics, Class, Positions, Genger equality and the rest.

No matter how you try, you'll always find out that it's only amongst Jehovah's Witnesses that true love permeates, the next thing you'll be agitating for is "why are JWs not extending the same kind of love towards you?"

paulGrundy:
like I said earlier the same pharisees and sadducees which Jesus Christ criticized he wined and dined with them and socialized with them he attended their synagogues and gave talks. luke 4:15.

i have seen interdenominational meetings which leaders preach in each others churches on mutually agreed doctrines. can a Jehovah's Witness visit a church program?

can a JW study a oneness pentecostal magazine that preaches against Trinity?

can a JW hold talks in a Christian group bible study?



am not sure i understand the point you are passing across.



Am glad you are the one that made this point. I was thinking you will tell me to be baptized as a jw to be Christian.




what are the parameters you used to jump into this conclusion?

paulGrundy:
do you know the implication of what you just said? it means that if a Christian group practices and teaches all what you guys regard as "truth" that group is a false group just because it is not the watchtower.

funny thing is that non of your founders can be identified with the apostolic fathers of the faith because the society was formed just a century ago when it started as Bible students.
this is disgusting. the difference is clear.

1. Jesus said he is the only intermediary between man and God, the watchtower said they are the intermediaries.

2. the early referred to their places of worship as church. watchtower called theirs kingdom hall.

3. Jesus told his disciples to baptize in the name of the father son and holy spirit. mat 28:19. the watchtower asks you to identify as a Jehovah's witness before being baptized.

seems Jehovah's witnesses are practicing watchtower religion.

Futurejoy:
Jehovah witness is a religion I don’t believe in, from how you people turn the Bible upside down to how you live your lives after pulling your shirt , tie and dropping your umbrella is very disturbing. The highest rate of fornication takes place so much amongst Jehovah witness, I know this cos I have friends who are Jehovah’S witness.
The next one is you people sin so passionately and pretend about it , then you act like Jehovah is your paddy cos las las he will give you all the key to the garden of Eden “paradise”, so no hell.

My family has never responded to Jehovah witness before cos you people preach false doctrine so don’t say you guy always get positive reply from people you preach to. Lastly, you guys don’t pray, A typical JW only prays during food time and the prayer can last 20minutes. Why will a Christian only pray when God gives him/her food to eat
We are all entitled to our religion and beliefs, talking trash about Deeper life is what made me write this epistle. Practice your religion and stop castigating people and their religion .

cpmconsultingltd:
watch the video below, for you to know how to avoid getting possessed by demons


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZwlJ5EvCM0

Ochiban:
And for heavens sake - stop blaming women for your own problems. It is not dressing that is worrying you. otherwise all men would behave the same way to the same dress. You have trained yourself not to shake when you see a girls ankle in nigeria but in saudi- a man would be vibrating. meanswhile in Europe, what makes you vibrate in nigeria will not even turn an eyelid there. its all training. STOP BLAMING other people for your own problems.

Adam said...It is the woman you gave me....


You men havent changed

cpmconsultingltd:
watch the video below, for you to know how to avoid getting possessed by demons


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZwlJ5EvCM0

OkpanachiMax:
Read very well before you spew nonsense, everyone is guilty of one sin or the other but Jesus has wipe away that guilt for those of us that belief, so am not guilty of anything you think

efficiencie:
One

When the age of marriage for struggling men is as high as 35 but the age they start to burn is 15. You cannot escape fornication easily. Sexual starvation is as bad as food starvation. A burning young man will be driven to fornication if he has no Hope's of getting married anytime soon. The economic situation is a key driver of this problem. Before a struggling man can say he is financially ready he must have been in his late 20s or early 30s but such has a man has been starving since he was 15. How do you make such a man to deal with the starvation?

Two

Our culture also has a fault. We have made marriage a project when marriage is meant to be as simple and affordable as possible. Many customs have made marriage very difficult. Before a starving young man can think of marriage he has to have a job paying at least 150k, he must not be carrying his extended family's financial responsibilities and he must have a strong savings culture. How many men attain this conditions? Many men have to contribute to supporting parents and siblings and yet you expect them to save enough to foot the bill of marriage imposed on them by customs?

Three

Many ladies and their families want a ready made man. Many ladies do not want to help a man become ready, no, they want him already made. I sometimes say it, if your man is already made how are you relevant to him? You had no part in his struggles and no contribution to his success but you and your family want him. Most struggling men will have to toil hard till they are older trying to become financially made without the support of any female. If ladies took it upon themselves to yield to a good man when he is nothing and help him work his way up, he will make it earlier in life and be able to settle down with the helper who assisted him all this while. Sadly this is not the case so most men have to labor alone and labor for long whilst starving for sex...doesn't this lead to fornication?

Four

Our pastors also have a fault. Our pastors, most of them, usually preach that until a man is financially ready he is not ready for marriage. But these foolish teachers cannot see the result of their teachings. If financial readiness is a determinant of marriage then we must accept the current rate of fornication. Because if it will take a man another 20 years from the age of 15 to become financially ready, how have you provided for his sexual starvation during those 20 years?

Five

Most ladies have decided to make their bodies available before marriage. It is sheer stupidity for a lady to sleep with man whose parents you don't know, who doesn't know your parents, whose aspirations for marriage has not been declared to your parents and whose parents have not accepted you as a wife. When ladies do this stupid thing they give men the impression that marriage is overrated since their sexual starvation can be satisfied before marriage at a cost must less than the cost of marriage. This fuels fornication. When a man knows that the lady next door neighbor has a utility he can use to satisfy his sexual starvation at a very minimal cost he finds it hard evading such a temptation. Could David, the man after God's heart, evade such a temptation when Bathsheba made her hole available for use?

Six

For most men, I don't know about women, sex is a difficult thing to evade. I know you want to mention Joseph and Job but you must not forget Reuben, Judah, Abimelech, Samson, David, Solomon...its so bad that a man in the Corinthain church slept with his mother. Fornication was found in the Thyatiran church. Men need intercession concerning fornication. It is the only force you cannot confront easily in prayer and the only recommendation the bible gives is "flee".

efficiencie:
One

When the age of marriage for struggling men is as high as 35 but the age they start to burn is 15. You cannot escape fornication easily. Sexual starvation is as bad as food starvation. A burning young man will be driven to fornication if he has no Hope's of getting married anytime soon. The economic situation is a key driver of this problem. Before a struggling man can say he is financially ready he must have been in his late 20s or early 30s but such has a man has been starving since he was 15. How do you make such a man to deal with the starvation?

Two

Our culture also has a fault. We have made marriage a project when marriage is meant to be as simple and affordable as possible. Many customs have made marriage very difficult. Before a starving young man can think of marriage he has to have a job paying at least 150k, he must not be carrying his extended family's financial responsibilities and he must have a strong savings culture. How many men attain this conditions? Many men have to contribute to supporting parents and siblings and yet you expect them to save enough to foot the bill of marriage imposed on them by customs?

Three

Many ladies and their families want a ready made man. Many ladies do not want to help a man become ready, no, they want him already made. I sometimes say it, if your man is already made how are you relevant to him? You had no part in his struggles and no contribution to his success but you and your family want him. Most struggling men will have to toil hard till they are older trying to become financially made without the support of any female. If ladies took it upon themselves to yield to a good man when he is nothing and help him work his way up, he will make it earlier in life and be able to settle down with the helper who assisted him all this while. Sadly this is not the case so most men have to labor alone and labor for long whilst starving for sex...doesn't this lead to fornication?

Four

Our pastors also have a fault. Our pastors, most of them, usually preach that until a man is financially ready he is not ready for marriage. But these foolish teachers cannot see the result of their teachings. If financial readiness is a determinant of marriage then we must accept the current rate of fornication. Because if it will take a man another 20 years from the age of 15 to become financially ready, how have you provided for his sexual starvation during those 20 years?

Five

Most ladies have decided to make their bodies available before marriage. It is sheer stupidity for a lady to sleep with man whose parents you don't know, who doesn't know your parents, whose aspirations for marriage has not been declared to your parents and whose parents have not accepted you as a wife. When ladies do this stupid thing they give men the impression that marriage is overrated since their sexual starvation can be satisfied before marriage at a cost must less than the cost of marriage. This fuels fornication. When a man knows that the lady next door neighbor has a utility he can use to satisfy his sexual starvation at a very minimal cost he finds it hard evading such a temptation. Could David, the man after God's heart, evade such a temptation when Bathsheba made her hole available for use?

Six

For most men, I don't know about women, sex is a difficult thing to evade. I know you want to mention Joseph and Job but you must not forget Reuben, Judah, Abimelech, Samson, David, Solomon...its so bad that a man in the Corinthain church slept with his mother. Fornication was found in the Thyatiran church. Men need intercession concerning fornication. It is the only force you cannot confront easily in prayer and the only recommendation the bible gives is "flee".

abimic:
Indecent/revealing dressing, uncensored vidoes, immoral discussion and thoughts are what can endanger the well being of decent folks if caution isn't taken. Blaming another for one's wrong doing is the highest of irresponsibility. We see people who dress loosely like they're sent from hell, but that shouldn't be a Yardstick to be lured to sin. I use to hear people advise their wards to be careful of drinks and women, so their days can be long. When we choose to live right, we know what to do, but blaming the society is a no no. Focus on what enlarges you positively and ignore distractions. sexual immorality or not, just do what pleases you, people are accountable to their creator.

OkpanachiMax:
Treating sexual immorality in general in which fornication(premarital sex), adultery(extra-marital sex), masturbation, pornography etc are included.

Human sexuality is so explicit and complex that we need to deal with it from within. Indecent dressing live on the street and on social media is the greatest influence of these things.

Also the evolution of adult film themirz sealed the fate of mankind. Man for instance was created with a constant sexual feeling, this sexual feeling is low when there is no erotic image and high when there is, so in order to suppress this feeling, we need to minimize our activities on social media, we need to sensitize the female to dress decently if not we will all rot in hell with our religious sentimentality because 95% of youths are guilty of this.

NB: It is not easy to preach what you are guilty of if you have a strong conscience

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