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Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by invinzible1: 2:11pm On Apr 25, 2020 |
Maximus69: This guy no Dy Taya... U sef reason thing before you put am online |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Usorohtheman(m): 6:40pm On Apr 25, 2020 |
Two heterosexual individuals that are of age having consensual sex is not a crime in most parts of Nigeria and the world at large. Unless a thing is a crime, then it should be kicked against. Too many hypocrites in Nigeria, hiding behind religion. 12 Likes |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by OkpanachiMax: 9:16pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Usorohtheman:Hypocrites you said Aren't one of them? |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by belcom10(m): 11:08pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
You are very correct. OkpanachiMax: 2 Likes |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 11:29pm On Apr 27, 2020 |
Maximus69: what this one saying? what made you assume that Kumuiyis teachings is influenced by watchtower? mind you, Christian groups have been preaching against sexual immortality before the birth of Rutherford. Today only Jehovah's Witnesses are living up to the standard, the group granted with wisdom so they had a balance view of morals, entertainment, dressing and grooming. churches like chosen, classical Rccg and apostolic faith church from where he started His ministry also hold strict views similar to kumuiyis. and guess what? his teachings and ministry is similar to apostolic faith which is his major influence. where are all this garbage coming from? i guess its safe to say that the watchtower stole the idea of confession of ones faults from the catholic church. going by your reasoning. am not suprised though, you are from a religion that teaches lies!! The world is filled with rebellious spirit beings (demons) today and they're fighting really hard to promote so many hurtful desires {Galatians 5:19-21} the only way out is to keep associating with God's people where we can be encouraged to love and fine works {Hebrew 10:24-25} by so doing we will continue to produce the fruitage of God's holy spirit {Matthew 7:16-18} and our faith will not die! James 2:26 compare to Luke 18:8 4 Likes |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 4:10am On Apr 28, 2020 |
paulGrundy: Hmmmmmmmm you've spoken the minds of billions around you but failed or refused to quote God's word! John 17:14 Next time you want to refute someone's comment, please try to consider a vital feature in their write-up~ the authority they had to make comments! Matthew 21:23 People love talks that suits their likeness but he who speaks the truth has just one thing to buttress his points~ God's word! John 17:17 So anytime you're furious/angry about anyone's comment think about the use of scriptures because it's what will judge you NOT the number of likes you get from people credulously supporting your write-up! John 6:66-69 May God bless you as you have a rethink! 2 Likes |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 1:06pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: I don't have any problem with the Bible quotations you made there but my problem with you is this us-versus-them attitude which is typical of the Watchtower. and of which your assertions were wrong! why malign another mans ministry to make a point! and put on a holier than thou attitude! this was exactly the reason why Jesus criticized the Pharisees and Sadducees of his time! for hypocrisy and white washed attitude!! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 1:51pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
paulGrundy: Please of all first century Jewish religious teachers, which of them has this attitude of us versus them apart from Jesus? Come on, their were many school of thought in Israel before John the baptist and Jesus began condemning all of them only to turn everything to us versus them! Matthew 3:7 compare to Matthew 12:34 For your information it was Jesus' holier than thou {John 14:6} that led all the other groups to form alliance against him and his followers! Act 4:18,5:28 All the Jewish religious groups weren't having the same line of thought but they were unitedly furious against one single group "Christian"! Act 23:6-9, 24:5 So if you now find all these religions silently criticising one another under~G but one stands out saying "we are the one and only" please try to remember Jesus and his sayings {John 8:12-15} of course no intellectual should expect anything less from the true followers of a teacher who always claim holier than thou! Matthew 10:24-26 Don't expect his followers to mix with all other religions claiming worshipers of the same God yet having contradicting opinions and conflicting doctrines! 1Corinthians 14:33 Thanks! |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by OkpanachiMax: 5:25pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
More reasonable contributions pls |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 9:15pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: read your bible very well, Jesus' message was all Inclusive and he was a friend to all: Matthew the corrupt tax collector, he wined and dined with publicans and sinners. He was even a friend to Nicodemus the Pharisee. can you say the same of a Jehovah's witness socializing with a pastor? going by your stands for defining the Pharisees and Sadducees. it is the Pharisees who exhibit that kind of attitude which is usually a symptom of hypocrisy. Matthew 23:2-33. For your information it was Jesus' holier than thou {John 14:6} that led all the other groups to form alliance against him and his followers! Act 4:18,5:28 thats a lie! it was the religious leaders who incited the people against him due to his persistent attacks at them. they feared that he will sway many of their members with his influence. which would then have a huge impact on their offering/tithe box. All the Jewish religious groups weren't having the same line of thought but they were unitedly furious against one single group "Christian"! Act 23:6-9, 24:5 the question now is how what's the yardstick for distinguishing the "others" from "us"? and who created them? nb: please don't go and copy and paste what one magazine said mixed by Bible quotations because I have 10 other magazines from different denominations that is also mixed with Bible quotations. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 9:42pm On Apr 28, 2020 |
paulGrundy: You have tried my friend but carefully look into this matter! Jesus is a friend of sinners. And do you see Jehovah's Witnesses stay away from drunkards and prostitutes during our preaching and teaching work? Of course we expose all the tactics of false prophets (Pastors) as they're milking people's pockets dry, that's why they say so many evil things about us! Now who are those that are prepared to visit you in your homes with the message of PEACE? And who are those inciting the people against us? For your information, people do respond positively to our message where there is no Churches because they treat us with respect due to the way we present ourselves. But when we meet with Churchgoers, it's one argument or the other yet they can't find what they believe in the Bible! The only way to distinguish between false Christians and real is LOVE! True Christians will have love amongst themselves while false Christians can never have true love in their midst. The secret is Satan have planted so many time bombs in false religions e.g Racism, Politics, Class, Positions, Genger equality and the rest. No matter how you try, you'll always find out that it's only amongst Jehovah's Witnesses that true love permeates, the next thing you'll be agitating for is "why are JWs not extending the same kind of love towards you?" |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 1:29pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: like I said earlier the same pharisees and sadducees which Jesus Christ criticized he wined and dined with them and socialized with them he attended their synagogues and gave talks. luke 4:15. i have seen interdenominational meetings which leaders preach in each others churches on mutually agreed doctrines. can a Jehovah's Witness visit a church program? can a JW study a oneness pentecostal magazine that preaches against Trinity? can a JW hold talks in a Christian group bible study? Now who are those that are prepared to visit you in your homes with the message of PEACE? And who are those inciting the people against us? am not sure i understand the point you are passing across. For your information, people do respond positively to our message where there is no Churches because they treat us with respect due to the way we present ourselves. But when we meet with Churchgoers, it's one argument or the other yet they can't find what they believe in the Bible! Am glad you are the one that made this point. I was thinking you will tell me to be baptized as a jw to be Christian. True Christians will have love amongst themselves while false Christians can never have true love in their midst. what are the parameters you used to jump into this conclusion? 3 Likes |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 1:53pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
OkpanachiMax: The film industry contribute much to this sexual depravity. Women are affected by what they watch, that's why they dress the way they do. If one has to control his urges, he or she should beware of what film he watches. Another killer pornography. This sends a picture in ur head that keeps tempting you. Cases of sexual immorality cannot be curbed in our society, it will only keep on getting messier, as pleasure will be the bane during this last days. 2tim3:1-5. Until we stop watching and viewing this things, we will not get rid of sexual immorality. Another madness is music videos. Some think it does not affect them. That is a lie, it does. We should beware of what we feed our minds with. Phil 4:8. 5 Likes |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 3:48pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
paulGrundy: Hmmmmmmmm, (1)Jesus visited Jewish synagogues because the Synagogues was built for the Jews to congregate for sacred service. But after the clear evidence that God's holy spirit has chosen Jesus' group as the one and only group having God's blessing, all the Jews formed alliance to oust the Christians as impostors {Matthew 10:17} that's how pure worship was separated from falsehood in the first century, all the Jews agreed to oppose the Christians anywhere anytime and before anyone! Act 4:18;5:28;25:4 Before the year 1914 Jehovah's Witnesses do move from one Church to another to tell people what they know in God's word, but in 1916 the President of Watchtower (Charles Taze Russell) died, the leaders were arrested for preaching against the Churches and sentenced to prison. They were later released in 1919 only for them to change their mode of operations to this house to house preaching we know today! They stopped going to other Churches and built small meeting places called "Kingdom Halls", that was how true Christianity was separated from false, and ever since then the group has continued to grow in strength till now. And for your information 1919 ~ 2019 makes 100 years before the outbreak of Covid19 to stop the work that Jehovah's Witnesses have never stopped since 1919 till today! (2) Jesus (in the spirit) sent angels to separate honest hearted and sincere followers from the midst of misinformed churchgoers and continue feeding them spiritually till today, the separation work is what makes people from all nations gradually getting out of all the religions {Revelations 18:4} and coming together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers today {Matthew 13:24-30} so don't expect them to have anything to do with the churches of Christendom afterwards! 2Corinthians 6:14-16 (3)NO! Honest hearted and sincere people takes action once they've discovered the place where God's holy spirit is working {Act 2:37-42} the lost sheep of the house of Israel won't appreciate it when truth keep mixing with falsehood, after Jesus finished telling his faithful disciples what will happen during our time regarding this separation, they feared greatly and asked him "how will honest hearted people know the group that's teaching the truth during this dreadful conditions" Jesus' response was "wise, intelligent and honest hearted people will know where true spiritual food is served, and there the will gather"! Matthew 24:25-28; Luke 17:31-37 Thanks! |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 3:57pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: you did not answer my questions. (3)NO! Honest hearted and sincere people takes action once they've discovered the place where God's holy spirit is working {Act 2:37-42} the lost sheep of the house of Israel won't appreciate it when truth keep mixing with falsehood, after Jesus finished telling his faithful disciples what will happen during our time regarding this separation, they feared greatly and asked him "how will honest hearted people know the group that's teaching the truth during this dreadful conditions" Jesus' response was "wise, intelligent and honest hearted people will know where true spiritual food is served, and there the will gather"! Matthew 24:25-28; Luke 17:31-37 you answered no to my question but the reason you gave is unclear. or has the watchtower declared that Trinity is now truth? 1 Like |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 4:35pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
paulGrundy: Well the answer to all your questions is NO! |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by orunto27: 5:08pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
Thou shall not commit Adultery and Fornication. Obey. 1 Like |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 8:21pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: do you know the implication of what you just said? it means that if a Christian group practices and teaches all what you guys regard as "truth" that group is a false group just because it is not the watchtower. funny thing is that non of your founders can be identified with the apostolic fathers of the faith because the society was formed just a century ago when it started as Bible students. this is disgusting. the difference is clear. 1. Jesus said he is the only intermediary between man and God, the watchtower said they are the intermediaries. 2. the early referred to their places of worship as church. watchtower called theirs kingdom hall. 3. Jesus told his disciples to baptize in the name of the father son and holy spirit. mat 28:19. the watchtower asks you to identify as a Jehovah's witness before being baptized. seems Jehovah's witnesses are practicing watchtower religion. 3 Likes |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 8:28pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: this one is funny so churches were not built to congregate? they were built to dance konko below |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 9:13pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
paulGrundy: (1) Jesus had brothers that we must recognize to serve Jesus, failure to acknowledge them is tantamount to disregarding Jesus himself {Matthew 25:31-36} so who are Jesus' brothers today? (2)NO Sir! A single follower of Jesus is called Christian but a group is known as the Church NOT their place of worship! (3) Jesus asked us to teach them so that they know the attributes of the Father, Son and how the holy spirit works. As regards baptism, even Jesus' first century followers understood how it's to be done, they never baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit as you think! Act 2:38 |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Csonice1: 9:30pm On Apr 29, 2020 |
OkpanachiMax: Do you hunger when you are about to reach an interview venue and the time is almost up? Do you hunger for a Chinese food that you have no appetite for? Priority matters. Yes human beings at some point have desires of the flesh ; so there is need for you to mortify the flesh: the earlier the better. (Romans8:13) I'm not a fan of indescent dressing but what will the devil tempt you with if you have no desire for evil? Honestly, you will become a terror to him. (James1:14-15) Blessed is the man who mortifies the desires of the flesh. (Colossians 3:5) The real dressing is that of the heart. However, I understand there is need for modest dressing especially amongst ladies it's basically for their own good and so that they don't put a stumbling block before others. (1peter3:3-5, 1Timothy2:9) As a man or a lady you can't hunger for Spiritual things and be entangled in fashion... not to talk of dressing indescently. (2Timothy2:4) To be Spiritual doesn't make you ugly ; you will even be surprised at the extent to which the Beauty of God manifests on you. (1Peter3:5 compare with Genesis12:11,1samuel16:12) First things first. 3 Likes |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 12:09pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Maximus69: it was one of his brothers who said this; 1 Timothy 2:5 King James Version (KJV) 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (2)NO Sir! A single follower of Jesus is called Christian but a group is known as the Church NOT their place of worship! read the passage you quoted; Acts 2:38 King James Version (KJV) 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. it said be baptized in Jesus' name. I know thus passage is a bone of contention amongst trinitarians and none trinitarians. but it did not mention the name of any governing body member or the watchtower society. this what the watchtower said: At the close of the convention baptism talk, the baptism candidates will be in position to answer with depth of understanding and heartfelt appreciation two simple questions that serve to confirm that they recognize the implications of following Christ's example. The first question is: On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will? The second is: Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization? Having answered yes to these questions, candidates are in a right heart condition to undergo Christian baptism." Watchtower1985 Jun 1 p.30 no reference is made to being baptized in Jesus' name or in the name of the father, son and holy spirit. 1 Like |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 12:25pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
paulGrundy: It's not a matter of arguments Sir! Go and do your evangelism in the best way you know. What Jesus said is by their FRUIT you will know them Matthew 7:15 I have found the fruit in Jehovah's Witnesses Organization, so go and work with those you feel are producing the fruit to the best of your own understanding! Thanks Sir and may God bless you! 1 Like |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 1:20pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
Maximus69: by their fruit indeed. by their fruit of promoting themselves over Jesus Christ. 1 Like |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 3:31pm On Apr 30, 2020 |
paulGrundy: It's how you view it Sir, i know that Jesus is my personal Lord and Saviour, but he has appointed a faithful and discreet slave group {Matthew 24:45} that are overseeing his work on earth today. So if you feel it's a lie that's your own cup of tea! 1 Like |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by OkpanachiMax: 3:06pm On May 01, 2020 |
JMAN05:Nice point Thanks for that |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by ochibuogwu5: 4:20pm On May 01, 2020 |
Matthew 19:26 Amplified Bible (AMP) "But Jesus looked at them and said, “With people [as far as it depends on them] it is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Looking at the weakness and limitations of human being as well as the tendency to get attached to possessions of this world; it might seem impossible to enter into the kingdom of Heaven but with sincerity and total submission to the Holy Spirit guidance, we shall be sustained without any wrinkle or spot for the day of God's Judgment. Holy Spirit, we surrender to you completely and sincerely every tick of second we breathe in this earthly existence in Jesus Name. Amen. |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 4:33pm On May 01, 2020 |
Maximus69: the true people overseeing the work on earth today are these: Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version (KJV) 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Any other one are Den of mind controlling thieves. john 10:7-10 Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. Jesus emphatically stated that anyone person or group claiming to be a go between him and his people is a thief! 1 Like |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 6:12pm On May 01, 2020 |
paulGrundy: @bolded (1) For the perfecting of the holy ones (saints) (2)For the work of the ministry (3)For the edifying of the body of Christ So go on doing just that in this twisted and crooked generation Sir. May God bless you as you and your cohorts do just that! 1 Like |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by paulGrundy(m): 8:43pm On May 01, 2020 |
Maximus69:am not sure you even understood what you quoted. |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by OkpanachiMax: 10:06pm On May 01, 2020 |
Let's think morally and abstain from anything immoral Shun idleness and retain discipline. |
Re: How We Can Curb Sexual Immorality In Our Society by Nobody: 10:29pm On May 01, 2020 |
paulGrundy: Go and work over those three points you mentioned yourself. I've found the three amongst Jehovah's Witnesses, so i'm OK with them! 2 Likes |
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