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| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by mapet: 10:44am On May 24, 2020 |
Offpoint:It is biblicaly factual to speak or pray in tongues. 1 Cor 14:2 It is a gift of the Holy Spirit.... Paul actually ascertain that you commune with God/Holy Spirit speaking in tongues. What is misconstrued to me is appropriating what it is not to it, making speaking in tongues the absolute of Holy Spirit filling relegating other more beneficial gifts of the spirit to the background |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Liposure: 10:44am On May 24, 2020 |
Evercurious:am moved. Holyspirit here i come |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Nelx(m): 10:45am On May 24, 2020 |
Evercurious:The tongues I speak is English. I believe God hears it too. I won't be annoyed if the speaking in church is done moderately and described by apostle Paul. Alas, we have 2 hour sessions of people saying what they don't understand. Since yours edifies you, carry on dear |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by bigname23: 10:45am On May 24, 2020 |
Buliwyf:Bros every religion has activities that makes no sense to outsiders muslems count bead...traditionalist sometimes mutter incantations that humans cannot understand...and even gives sacrifices of food to dieties which cannot eat physically ....religion is all about beleif ...u do not have the right tell people how they practice religion because u do not understand... |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Jjohnson777: 10:46am On May 24, 2020 |
For now any of the speaking in tongues is fake, the main purpose was to preach to different people who came to Jerusalem for worship, to reach this diverse people with the message, they were given, they were not proud of it, nor do they continue to seek for it after that, purpose has been accomplished. Those who heard the message in their tongue took it back home and preached in their languages, there was no need to continue speaking in tongues today, as modern technology can translate the scriptures to any tongue in a few minute, beside almost all tribes have the Bible in their languages. Pastors today will tell you they speak in tongues, just to draw followers to themselves, God has not send them any message. Some even call themselves prophets, the last prophet is Jesus, we are also prophets if we preach what God's prophets preached and wrote. Let's ask ourselves, who among the apostles was called a prophet, are we more close to God than the apostles? |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by rummmy: 10:47am On May 24, 2020 |
And Muslims,traditionalists and atheists are all commenting on this Christian topic without swearing an oat that they believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Nairaland owner should look into this and balance this iniquity....... |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Evercurious(f): 10:48am On May 24, 2020 |
Liposure:Lol.. It's also used during deliverance. My dear it's really a nice experience |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Offpoint: 10:49am On May 24, 2020 |
Evercurious:I don't need any spiritual gift that's only beneficial to me... |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by mapet: 10:50am On May 24, 2020 |
sunkieisland:I think it is important that you situate the bolded in the full context of what Paul explained. This part you lifted twists the explanation, so I took the trouble to post from Verses -6-18 below 6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to you, unless I bring you some revelation or knowledge or prophecy or word of instruction? 7 Even in the case of lifeless things that make sounds, such as the pipe or harp, how will anyone know what tune is being played unless there is a distinction in the notes? 8 Again, if the trumpet does not sound a clear call, who will get ready for battle? 9 So it is with you. Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air. 10 Undoubtedly there are all sorts of languages in the world, yet none of them is without meaning. 11 If then I do not grasp the meaning of what someone is saying, I am a foreigner to the speaker, and the speaker is a foreigner to me. 12 So it is with you. Since you are eager for gifts of the Spirit, try to excel in those that build up the church. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Samysearch(m): 10:52am On May 24, 2020 |
phransix2:I wish Christians can read deep into their scripture. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by omonnakoda: 10:52am On May 24, 2020 |
Missyajoke:ALWAYS.? Is that in the bible? |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by ocha88(m): 10:53am On May 24, 2020 |
This wonderful write up just shows how shortsighted some of us that claim to be a Christain are, some even condemned it that there’s nothing like speaking in tongues it shows level of ignorant in our churches today, you call yourself a believer yet you can’t make out time to study your bible to know what you believe in, yet you are quick to condemn what you don’t know about, the reason you will not speak in tongues is because you never believe in it , something that was given freely (mark16:17) just believe that’s all. Finally if you are a believer and you want to know God then seek for the present of Holy Spirit in your life without Holy Spirit in your life don’t even discuss about things of God because education can’t give you the knowledge about God. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by nathdim: 10:54am On May 24, 2020 |
Emax911:was any of your forefathers or your ancestors there b4 Jesus left the earth |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Liposure: 10:58am On May 24, 2020 |
Evercurious:my spirit n flesh is set |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by HMarshal(m): 11:00am On May 24, 2020 |
Missyajoke:I wander where u guys threw the part the Bible explained the gift of tongues being a gift of languages.meaning,it must be understood & interpretable to a group of ppl. You guys make stupid noises & term it speaking in tongues.u follow ur pastor's & preachers like a sheep to the slaughter house. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by HMarshal(m): 11:03am On May 24, 2020 |
Buliwyf:It really amuses me,I mean they make noices like animals & say it's a tongue.even themselves don't undstandable or can't interprete thier utterances. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by DorcasShalom: 11:06am On May 24, 2020 |
Thanks so much. It is just language..but i don't understand where people get all they say. May God help us. Youngzedd: |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Hier(m): 11:08am On May 24, 2020 |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by floss(m): 11:12am On May 24, 2020 |
Buliwyf:you are totally correct, in addition most churches pretend to follow the lives of the early Christians rather than follow the teachings of Jesus Christ but yet they don't practice the right doctrine. The apostles spoke in different tongues (Languages) of which different people around understood the gospel messages being passed in their own language. That was necessary then following the different races and tribes present in Jerusalem then, so the Holy Spirit made the apostles expand the messages to non indigenes and thus the need for the gift of speaking in different tongues. Note: They never spoke gibberish, unlike what our 21st century born again Christians and Business Men of God (BMG) do...Men Modern Christians bring curses upon themselves and their households in the name of speaking in tongues due to the fact that they want the Holy Spirit to manifest through coercion, Mind you, the Holy Spirit is not a toy to be toiled with..If you are speaking in tongue and you are aware that you are uttering gibberish, my dear better stop for your good, don't bring the wrath of the Holy Spirit upon yourself and your generation. Since after the apostles, no one has ever spoken in tongue, the reason I said that is because many people don't understand what prompted to speaking in tongue, it is for the purpose of preaching the gospel not individual prayer or public entertainment in the name of revival, crusades, and Virgil that our Business Men of God (BMG) embark on all the time once finance start going down... If a Yoruba man that doesn't understand or speak Swahili meets some one from there, unconsciously start speaking Swahili to the person and message is passed with out him knowing it, that is what SPEAKING IN TONGUE means, it is a gift from the Holy Spirit, it comes and goes before you get back to reality... So you will not know how you were able to speak to the person, it will remain a mystery to you. The person will be surprised next time he or she speaks Swahili to you, you might not be able to understand....That's what speaking in tongue means and not those incantations you speak or hear people speak.....Happy Sunday, Stay Safe and Remain Blessed. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by henrijin: 11:22am On May 24, 2020 |
Did you know "tongues" is old English for "language"? We have been gullibly spoonfed junk. It is all about what our pastors say. What do we personally understand about different concepts or beliefs? One thing with people is "if something is too simple, it is nonsense". We forget life is actually simple. We created confusions and difficulties. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Toluobaeko11: 11:23am On May 24, 2020 |
To get the answer, we must know the Genesis of speaking in tongues. God gave the Apostles holy spirit to speak in tongues(foreign languages) during the Pentecost, so that people from other lands can hear what they're saying in their local languages, and that's all. But nowadays, a lot of people are deceiving themselves by speaking jargons, some even says they're speaking in tongues so that devil can't hear them. Lol! If you like, twist your tongues, devil will hear you clearly if he wants to. The apostles spoke in tongues in languages people understood, I don't know where these people got their own. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by martinmiller: 11:27am On May 24, 2020 |
I read comments and I smiled, op you ve written well, I can only commend your share gesture to enlighten many of us. A lot of people will not understand or comprehend that article written above, because it's not for the carnally minded ( see John 3:7-9, 4:23-25) spiritual understanding is not for everyone, it's a gift from Jehova with an evidence of speaking in an unknown language. Many have come out to say, some people, including pastors are speaking nonsense, gibberish, craps, bullshit and irrelevant words. truth be told Christianity as turned out to be mockery in Nigerian and not taken no more seriously by thousands of people, I can tell you for free, not all the men of God are called as they all claimed. Many are called but few are chosen! |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by femi4: 11:28am On May 24, 2020*. Modified: 12:01pm On May 24, 2020 |
olaadesino:So, the apostle acted on their own. Don't be spiritual illiterate Jesus said, “I will pray the father;” he said, “when I go to heaven I will pray the father and He shall send you another comforter, even the spirit of truth” [John 14: 16-17], talking about the Holy Spirit. So, the Holy Spirit had not been sent even though Jesus had the Holy Spirit. He said he would ask the Father to send the Holy Spirit. So, though he had the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit had not been sent to carry out his full ministry and so when he came to carry out his full ministry, the sign of his full presence in the earth had to be given to us and speaking in tongues is that sign. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Emax911: 11:30am On May 24, 2020 |
mapet:please is SHUT UP an insult and read my statement again and pick 0.1 insultive words |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Emax911: 11:33am On May 24, 2020 |
MPESA:I hope u understand, sometimes we pray in tongues without knowing what we r praying for or sometimes it is revealed through d spirit and when it is made manifest u will later get to Know. you could read about the day of Pentecost, go deep and understand what happened after the disciples spoke in tongues |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by whytediamond(m): 11:33am On May 24, 2020 |
MERCHANDISER:Oga are you normal at all? Read my post again. Carefully this time. Please where did I mention Odumeje let alone calling him a fake pastor? |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Evercurious(f): 11:34am On May 24, 2020 |
Offpoint:Good. That it isn't beneficial to you doesnt make it unreal or non existent Does it? |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by Evercurious(f): 11:36am On May 24, 2020 |
DorcasShalom:They got the tongues from the HOLY SPIRIT as He gave them utterance |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by densiks: 11:37am On May 24, 2020 |
Buliwyf:Let me address the misconceptions,misleading and disingenuous falsehood expressed alongside few facts(weeds and wheat)you have outlined here with the following. Following from scripture as seen in 1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV “ For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him ; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.” You stated in your write up that the early believers at Pentecost were found speaking in tongues which other people could identify and UNDERSTAND; “The only anecdotal evidence for speaking in tongues makes it known that they actually spoke the languages of the foreign people around them and could be understood.” This means that you admit and have so expressed in your write up that speaking in tongues is one of the evidences of the presence of the Holy Spirit in a Christian’s life. “Acts 2:4-6 KJV [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. [5] And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. [6] Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, d because that every man heard them speak in his own language. …” It is also worthy of mention that the Apostle Paul who wrote about two thirds of the New Testament emphasized the importance and need of speaking in tongues when he expressed that he spoke in tongues more than the people who were in the Corinthian church howbeit he was concerned about the wrong use or demonstration of the gift or manifestation of the use of tongues; as can be found in the scripture “1 Corinthians 14;18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:” From the foregoing,it is abundantly clear that speaking in tongues is an important,powerful and edifying component of the new covenant believers life amongs several other uses for which I will not delve into on this occasion. Jesus Christ also said very clearly in ‘Mark 16;17 “And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with NEW TONGUES;”’ Also, your attempt to rubbish the use of tongues because of perceived or unsubstantiated abuse by certain Christians is disingenuous,untenable and an effort in futility to deceive and deform unstable or unlearned minds as far as this subject is concerned. Your further attempt to question what those who speak in tongues have achieved in comparison to those who do do not speak in tongues is completely farcical,baseless and lacking in any empirical comparative evidence. Another angle that caught my attention is that in your attempt to sound intelligent you subtly made reference to a certain religious group called Christ Embassy and their alleged immoral ladies who spoke in tongues to witness the gospel on campus. Whatever their methods were does not represent the standards set by Scripture and you failed to understand that in every system there will always exist a percentage of individuals who will not live up to the standards and rules governing the system and can therefore fall short of its standards but can never be the ultimate basis for defining that system. Evidence is seen in the words of our Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 7 emphasis on verse 21. Matthew 7:16-21 KJV [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. [21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. … Let me conclude be saying that the things of the spirit cannot be discerned by the natural mind no matter how smart you may try to sound. “1 Conrinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” You should also limit yourself to areas you have sufficient,proven or tested knowledge about when expressing your views in public forums so you don’t end up sounding foolish in your attempt to sound smart. |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by mapet: 11:39am On May 24, 2020 |
Emax911:Oh! you mean you're just warming up? That aside, why will you wish someone to Shut up in a debate? Is it for want of cerebral content? |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by mapet: 11:42am On May 24, 2020 |
TOPCRUISE:Absolutely NOT. 1 Cor 12: 30.....Do all speak in tongues? |
| Re: Why Do We Need To Speak/pray In Tongues? by floss(m): 11:43am On May 24, 2020 |
Evercurious:The young man you quoted wasn't arguing or in denial of its existence, you didn't get his message. Try not to be in haste so that you don't pass a wrong message with a good intent ....before some one start throwing stones at a glass house. |
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