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Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by benji93: 3:52pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
On the other hand, not believing in it doesn't put it out of existence too. Your unbelief it doesn't exist is a belief too, I am afraid. The problem I have with atheists is they calling religious beliefs such as heaven stupid. They can argue their non-belief based on lack of knowledge but well new particles are discovered in particle collides. SO CyberEBOLA: |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by akinademayowa(m): 3:54pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
The question of whether babies and Young children will go to heaven or hell, let me answer it with a related instance in the Bible, that of Jacob and Esau in Romans 9. When it was recorded that God said "Jacob I love and Esau I hate". Many people have tried to rationalize answers to this statement, and while they do that, they have ignored the most important reason behind the statement. Romans 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; 11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth 12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. Look at vs 11... it says both Esau and Jacob had neither done anything good or bad when God made that statement. God didn't love Jacob because Jacob had done anything good and pleasing to God. Also, Esau hadn't done anything evil yet before God said Esau I hate... but there's something called "election". vs 11 says that the purpose of God according to election might stand. This means that God's decision to love Jacob and hate Esau is totally a personal decision that God made. He said I'll have mercy on whom I'll have mercy, and I'll have compassion on whom I'll have compassion. Normally, everyone is a sinner and deserve to be punished. But God choose some to save, like Jacob, it's all his own decision and no man can question that. So in the same way, like Jacob and Esau who hadn't done anything before God made that statement, I believe children and babies don't need to do anything good or evil, because God already knows those whom he had mercy and compassion on out of all of them. It's his own decision and shouldn't be our own headache. Thank you 1 Like |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by erujejeaminat: 3:55pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Only the creator knows |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by CyberEBOLA(m): 3:59pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
benji93:Well, those who believes in the existence of such things are to be blamed for our disbeliefs. If you say something exists(hell/heaven), and you cant give sufficient and convincing proof, then you are to be blamed. SUPERNATURAL CLAIMS, REQUIRES SUPERNATURAL EVIDENCE. 1 Like |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Nobody: 4:03pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Donniest22: Absolutely. Genesis 1 vs 26: Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness... Psalms 82 vs 6: I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; John 10 vs 34: Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods? |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Nobody: 4:05pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Iceberg3: How are they the same? And what has persecution got to do with what we are talking about? |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Iceberg3: 4:32pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
TripleOh7: "That if thou shalt CONFESS with thine mouth,the Lord Jesus,and believe with thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shall be saved". It's same message |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Iceberg3: 4:42pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
TripleOh7: Rom 5:12-19 12 "wherefore, as by one man,sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" Please read till verse 19. Note 18 and 19 very well. Donniest22 |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by raphy(m): 4:43pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
they will become angels in heaven growing in Godly wisdom and walking with God. they may end up being someone guardian angel. they can't go to hell they did nothing wrong . 1 Like |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Ifyz0001: 4:43pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
The child cannot go to heaven, because the child has not been baptized. You remember original sin of Adam and Eve is still on everyone. There is another place where such souls go to, which is in the bible but silently mentioned. |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Donniest22(m): 4:49pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Iceberg3:I am a Catholic by faith, I don't really understand the point in the last two verses. I'll clearify myself from my parish priest Thanks for the update 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Iceberg3: 4:52pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Donniest22: Please do, thanks 1 Like |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by OgogoroFreak(m): 4:53pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
The baby goes to the dust! |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by dalass(f): 4:58pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Hermes119: I deliberately asked those questions and I wanted to make them as silly as possible but limited myself to those three... Because if someone could answer and tell us what happens to us when we die, (that we just cease to exist, implying no heaven or hell). He should be able to tell us other things like where were we before we were born and why some things happen... If not, such a person should shut it when a book written by many men by the same Spirit tells us that there is an afterlife and even many living humans have had opportunity to see such realms. If there is no life (existence) after death, it means there's no penalty or rewards for being good or bad while on earth. This means we can all go crazy: kill, steal, destroy as much as we all can... .. Just enjoy, do whatever pleases you, even destroy anything that you want, then poof! You are gone! Extinct! Then what? Nothingness!!! Sorry, it doesn't work that way, we are spirit, soul and body. We got this body to stay on the earth and when we leave the earth, the spirit goes back to the spiritual realm and settle accounts as to how he spent his life.. |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by benji93: 5:07pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
It's definitely your right to wallow in unbelief. And you seem to misunderstand the definition of belief by pestering us to provide evidence. In other words by belief in something I can't physically prove doesn't invalidate my belief. It fits the definition of a belief. In fact in physics there's no such thing as proving a theorem. All you endeavour do to is disprove it. Meanwhile you can't blame someone else for your beliefs. Your beliefs are your decisions based on your experience or lack of it. You also need to choose your words wisely when making such arguments. What does supernatural mean? You are trying to prove your claim that a belief is not true with an argument/words that don't quite belong in the parlance of a belief system. That's quite extraordinary I would say. CyberEBOLA: |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Investnow2017: 5:11pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Openbusiness:How did you come to the conclusion that babies come from heaven? |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Proffdada: 5:14pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
CyberEBOLA:Most hell dwellers doubted |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Daguccizgreat(m): 5:21pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
CyberEBOLA:Do not be deceived bro. I have concrete evidence of what am telling you. My wife's uncle who died about 5 years ago appeared to my wife in the dream few months back where he's tied with a rope weeping. He eventually succeeded in telling in my wife to pass an important message to his sons concerning his terrible situation in the land of the spirit. We asked questions and we were told by a seer that the said uncle killed some ppl while he was alive hence the punishment he's receiving. No evil will go unrewarded don't be deceived |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Investnow2017: 5:21pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Tobechuckwu:If the judgement seat is in heaven, that means the wicked will first get to heaven first before they are judged, abi? |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Investnow2017: 5:26pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Roman7:Since we are born sinners, don't you think that baby is already a sinner even at birth? Your statement above is contradictory. And why will that baby go to heaven? On what basis? |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Nobody: 5:28pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
LordReed: A drunken God indeed 1 Like |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Nobody: 5:29pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by benji93: 5:30pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
I initially laughed when i wrote that, cos this is something more physical, and when i thought about it, it sounded ok. Do we not store data in clouds. Based on my religious beliefs, why can God, being all-powerful not be able institute such a system if your mind in the previous life is required in the after life. Again that opinion is based on some beliefs. You dont believe in the things I believe, on religious ground, so such a position is pointless to you. And it's well taken. On the issue of other living things like us, I could argue that they do not live based on reason. They were not created the same way we were created. Again based on my belief it's only God that can decide what judgement they will be subjected to. Remember all this is based on my belief. We are at an impasse. You can continue on in your unbelief. But I sincerely hope you see the light. CyberEBOLA: |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by lookingfly: 5:30pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Acehart:what about an unbelievers child or an aborted foetus? |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Nobody: 5:31pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Acehart: He doesn't enjoy but he still let's Dem go to hell.... Funny god Even AMADIOHA and Ekwensu aren't so evil |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Segzy19: 5:33pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Story story!!! See the way you answered authoritatively as if you are God. When a baby dies, the baby goes to heaven. Yes the Bible says all persons born of a woman is a sinner but Jesus in the same Bible made an accomodation for people like babies when he said 'Father, forgive them for they know not what they are doing'. This prayer covers babies too. Babies know not what they do; they don't have conscience. Jesus prayed for them already. The best friends of Jesus are kids... I hope this helps... GRIMMJOE: |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Felixyst: 5:33pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
The kingdom of God is only by His Mercy and Grace. |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Hermes119: 5:33pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
dalass: u can believe whatever u want but sis the universe doesn't owe u an explanation,things happen the way they would happen whether it makes send to us or not,when living things die microorganisms putrify them and that's it irrespective of what u choose to believe |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Investnow2017: 5:33pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
Adeniyi9462:But the Bible says we are all born sinners, Romans 5:12. |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by CyberEBOLA(m): 5:34pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
benji93:Hehehe! Logically speaking, when you have sufficient proof to backup your claim that heaven and hell exists, contact me. |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by MrPresident1: 5:35pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
There is a thing called reincarnation you will see in the Bible if you are willing The baby is not a baby in the spiritual sense of the word. A baby is the reincarnation of a previously existing soul. People do not go to hell when they die, infact, all souls that are disembodied go to heaven, then when they are re*embodied in a new body suit via reincarnation, they are made to repay their karmic debts in the afflictions they face in their newest incarnation 1 Like |
Re: If A Baby Dies Will He/She Go To Heaven Or Hell? by Hermes119: 5:35pm On Jun 21, 2020 |
BluntTheApostle: So are u saying that its possible for someone who didn't encounter Christ to live a life that can be certified as acceptable and worth a ticket to heaven ? |
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