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Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 2:17pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
@bolded, no sir, you’ve been totally annihilated, and I think u know it - only that pride won’t let u admit it.
I GAVE U EXACT LETTER OF THE LAW; REFUTE IT WITH EXACT LETTER OF THE LAW!
If u can’t, humbly collect your L on your way out.

Sex with a child is defilement. Below is how the constitution defines a child.
That is not our constitution!

Why are judges not delivering judgments based on you so-called "EXACT LETTER OF THE LAW!"huh

The sexual offences bill of 2015 and the Criminal code ACT, Cap. C.38 laws of the Federation of Nigeria, 2004 are clear on what the age of consent in Nigeria is. It has technically been proven to be 11.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 2:21pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
If they have same source, as they probably do, they’d both be wrong. Also they were not trying to nail down exact age of consent. The paper I quoted devoted themselves to doing just that and that alone
You mean the same reporter works for both Vanguard and Guardianhuh You are a joker!

The magazine you quoted is an opinionated article.

The papers I quoted reported verbatim the proceedings of the court that fateful day.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by Fearlez: 2:37pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
No need for ad hominem attacks or insults. Instead annihilate the man with clear reasoning and research as I am doing
someone stuck in his sand of ignorance.

Someone who was asked to cite a single statutory declaration that gave age 11 as consent for sex and he refused.

I do not waste research for a pitiable debased paedophile like virginfinder. I scalp them brutally.

Thanks for your view.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 2:45pm On Jul 10, 2020
[s]
Fearlez:
someone stuck in his sand of ignorance.

Someone who was asked to cite a single statutory declaration that gave age 11 as consent for sex and he refused.

I do not waste research for a pitiable debased paedophile like virginfinder. I scalp them brutally.

Thanks for your view.
[/s]

Olodo!

Sexual Offences Bill of 2015
"7. (2) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child aged eleven years or less shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 3:05pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
Stop being mischievous. The court judgments are all over the internet.

When cases are being decided in court, references are being made to similar cases decided in the past.

The sexual offences bill of 2015 technically stipulated 11 as the age of consent.
@bolded, you have been severally asked to point to where or how this technicality arises in that 2015 Bill. It is not some mysterious or spiritual thing. It is just a group of words authored by human beings. Show where in that group of words it is even remotely implied that 11 is age of consent in Nigeria!
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 3:08pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
You have been severally asked to point to where or how this technicality arises in that 2015 Bill. It is not some mysterious or spiritual thing. It is just a group of words authored by human beings. Show where in that group of words it is even remotely implied that 11 is age of consent in Nigeria!
Alright here it is below:

Sexual Offences Bill of 2015
7. (2) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child aged eleven years or less shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 3:12pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
The letters of the law don't preside over cases and deliver judgments. Lawyers and judges do!

How dare you refer to the justices of the Supreme Court as incompetenthuh

It seems whatever doesn't support emotional viewpoint is incompetent... embarassed
Once again, we know neither the intricacies of any particular case nor r we sure how accurate the reporting. The only thing we are sure of is the LETTER OF THE BILL!! Which is clear and unambiguous.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 3:18pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
Once again, we know neither the intricacies of any particular case nor r we sure how accurate the reporting. The only thing we are sure of is the LETTER OF THE BILL!! Which is clear and unambiguous.
Well you may not. You are free!

But I do!! And I know the letters of the bill.

Sexual Offences Bill of 2015
"7. (2) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child aged eleven years or less shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life.
And the courts have delivered their judgments based on the "LETTER OF THE BILL" stipulating 11 as the age of consent.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 3:25pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
You mean the same reporter works for both Vanguard and Guardianhuh You are a joker!

The magazine you quoted is an opinionated article.

The papers I quoted reported verbatim the proceedings of the court that fateful day.
Ten reporters may have same source and often do.
You have no way of knowing what the papers reported.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 3:30pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
Alright here it is below:
END OF DISCUSSION!
Now it’s clear u know you’ve been defeated because u know full well what it says in full.
Here it is. Read it carefully, then collect your L.
Better luck next time.

What the bill says VERBATIM
Section 7 of the bill, the controversial part which deals with defilement of children, states thus:
‎7. (1) A person who commits an act which causes penetration with a child is guilty of an offence called defilement.
(2) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child aged eleven years or less shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life.
(3) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of twelve and fifteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.
‎(4) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of sixteen and eighteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 3:40pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
END OF DISCUSSION!
Now it’s clear u know you’ve been defeated because u know full well what it says in full.
Here it is. Read it carefully, then collect your L.
Better luck next time.

What the bill says VERBATIM
Section 7 of the bill, the controversial part which deals with defilement of children, states thus:
‎7. (1) A person who commits an act which causes penetration with a child is guilty of an offence called defilement.
(2) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child aged eleven years or less shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life.
(3) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of twelve and fifteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.
‎(4) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of sixteen and eighteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.
I had shown you the below earlier:

Since the passage of the Sexual Offences Bill 2015 a few weeks ago, there has been great agitation from several quarters about the true import of the Bill. To many of the pundits and agitators, the Bill is anathema because of its anticipated provision criminalising sexual activity with a child aged eleven or less. In their opinion, such a provision officially sanctions eleven years as the approved age for sexual activity by children in Nigeria.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201506170104.html

Section 7 (2) is different from the other sections based on the bolded aspect.

These are part the reasons why the courts are basing their judgments on the fact that the age of consent is 11 and not 18.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 3:41pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
Ten reporters may have same source and often do.
You have no way of knowing what the papers reported.
That is mere speculation.

It is not the case here.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 3:46pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
I had shown you the below earlier:



https://allafrica.com/stories/201506170104.html

Section 7 (2) is different from the other sections based on the bolded aspect.

These are part the reasons why the courts are basing their judgments on the fact that the age of consent is 11 and not 18.
Ok, educate us, what does the following say or mean or imply:

‎(4) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of sixteen and eighteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 3:48pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
Ok, educate us, what does the following say or mean:

‎(4) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of sixteen and eighteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.
The issue of consent will be considered.

The judges and lawyers know better than you bro.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 3:51pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
The issue of consent will be considered.

The judges and lawyers know better than you bro.
And what part of the simple sentence does the judges and lawyers know better than me?
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 3:54pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
The issue of consent will be considered.

The judges and lawyers know better than you bro.
Sex without consent is called RAPE not defilement
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 4:03pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
Sex without consent is called RAPE not defilement
When the person in question is below 18, it is called defilement.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 4:04pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
And what part of the simple sentence does the judges and lawyers know better than me?
Section 7 (2) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child aged eleven years or less shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life.

Only this section is categorical.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 4:50pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
Sexual assault is sexual assault. It is not a function of age.
So why was the age specifically highlighted??
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op):
Fearlez:
someone stuck in his sand of ignorance.

Someone who was asked to cite a single statutory declaration that gave age 11 as consent for sex and he refused.

I do not waste research for a pitiable debased paedophile like virginfinder. I scalp them brutally.

Thanks for your view.
Thanks 4 yours too.
Don’t worry, he go gree by force
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 4:56pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
I had shown you the below earlier:



https://allafrica.com/stories/201506170104.html

Section 7 (2) is different from the other sections based on the bolded aspect.

These are part the reasons why the courts are basing their judgments on the fact that the age of consent is 11 and not 18.
What’s the difference? Spell it out. Educate us
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 4:57pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
That is mere speculation.

It is not the case here.
That’s mere speculation on your part too
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 5:01pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
When the person in question is below 18, it is called defilement.
Once below 18 it is called defilement regardless of age because they are too young to give consent. Once consent comes into consideration it is called RAPE!
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 5:03pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
Section 7 (2) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child aged eleven years or less shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life.

Only this section is categorical.
If it’s so categorical how come u don’t see anyone sentenced to life? How come the person below was not sentenced to life??

Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by Fearlez: 5:27pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
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Olodo!
The sections on the Sex offenders act was split.

It started with section 7, (1) stating "A person who commits an act which causes penetration with a child is guilty of an offence called defilement"

The law states anyone below 18 is a child. See the relevant section of the constitution.

Then section 7 (2) states (2) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child aged eleven years or less shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life.



Then 7, (3) and 4 States

A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of twelve and fifteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.

‎(4) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of sixteen and eighteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.

Going by subsection 3 ,can it be applied that age of consent is 15? Subsection 4 tells you if you sleep with a girl between the ages of 16 to 18 it's life imprisonment.

How on earth did you read section 7 and came up with the conclusion 11 year old can give consent.

Depraved bastard. Psychotic paedophile!
When we call you a paedophile, it's no curse. When we call you a product of interrupted education, it's no curse. You're a waste to humanity.

We know you have an ego and false sense of pride way bigger than your destiny.

But I have humbled you, out-cursed you and out-fact you

Type me another olodo again.

Shameless internet debris!!!
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by Sanishu: 5:58pm On Jul 10, 2020
Lol which Chic you go see in the club that Will tell you he is underage
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by PoliteActivist: 7:04pm On Jul 10, 2020
VirginFinder:
What do you make of count 2 belowhuh



Abduction still featured in count 2.
Within count 2 he was convicted of child trafficking but NOT ABDUCTION because the girl said she went willingly..
See below

Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by PoliteActivist: 7:11pm On Jul 10, 2020
Charleys:
All I can say is


Toto get power

grin
Lol I tell u my brother
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by PoliteActivist: 7:29pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
END OF DISCUSSION!
Now it’s clear u know you’ve been defeated because u know full well what it says in full.
Here it is. Read it carefully, then collect your L.
Better luck next time.

What the bill says VERBATIM
Section 7 of the bill, the controversial part which deals with defilement of children, states thus:
‎7. (1) A person who commits an act which causes penetration with a child is guilty of an offence called defilement.
(2) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child aged eleven years or less shall upon conviction be sentenced to imprisonment for life.
(3) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of twelve and fifteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.
‎(4) A person who commits an offence of defilement with a child between the age of sixteen and eighteen years is liable upon conviction to imprisonment for life.
VirginFinder, bros, you tried but you should know when to give it up.
There is no mention of consent anywhere nor is there any mention of there being more than one definition for defilement depending on age!(1)
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by CanadaOrBust(op): 9:43pm On Jul 10, 2020
PoliteActivist:
VirginFinder, bros, you tried but you should know when to give it up.
There is no mention of consent anywhere nor is there any mention of there being more than one definition for defilement depending on age!(1)
Oh he knows he has lost, that’s why he has stopped. He has humbly collected his L and disappeared. I could have defeated him long ago if I wanted because I knew he set up a straw man but I pretended not to see it.
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 10:11pm On Jul 10, 2020
CanadaOrBust:
Oh he knows he has lost, that’s why he has stopped. He has humbly collected his L and disappeared. I could have defeated him long ago if I wanted because I knew he set up a straw man but I pretended not to see it.
Hey! I don't live on Nairaland. You disappeared for over one hour after I made my last post. So I should be waiting for you and not do what I have to dohuh
I am a family man FYI... cool
Re: Age Of Consent: 11 Or 18??!! by VirginFinder: 10:18pm On Jul 10, 2020
PoliteActivist:
VirginFinder, bros, you tried but you should know when to give it up.
There is no mention of consent anywhere nor is there any mention of there being more than one definition for defilement depending on age!(1)
Study the sections clearly.

Section 7 (2) is different from the other sections. I am sure you were a kid when the sexual offences bill of 2015 was passed. It caused a lot of uproar back then because all and sundry could see through the law that it technically pegged the age of consent at 11.

I didn't write the below:

Since the passage of the Sexual Offences Bill 2015 a few weeks ago, there has been great agitation from several quarters about the true import of the Bill. To many of the pundits and agitators, the Bill is anathema because of its anticipated provision criminalising sexual activity with a child aged eleven or less. In their opinion, such a provision officially sanctions eleven years as the approved age for sexual activity by children in Nigeria.
https://allafrica.com/stories/201506170104.html

Or are you smarter than the people to created a petition website to ask for the age of consent to be raised from the 11 to 18huh

https://www.change.org/p/it-s-never-your-fault-raise-the-age-of-consent-in-nigeria-from-11-to-18

Or are you smarter than all the courts that have been ruling based on the fact that the age of consent is 11huh

Count five: “That you, Yinusa Dahiru, had unlawful carnal knowledge of Ese Oruru without her consent and thereby committed an offence contrary to section 357 of the criminal code Act and punishable under section 358 of the Criminal code ACT, Cap. C.38 laws of the Federation of Nigeria, 2004.”
Hon. Justice John Inyang Okoro, JSC
The above notable and profound pronouncement forms part of the ipsissima verba of my lord, the Hon. Justice Okoro, Justice of the Supreme Court of Nigeria when he delivered the leading Judgment on Friday, 30th January, 2015 in the case of BONIFACE ADONIKE v. THE STATE (2015) 7 N.W.L.R (pt 1458) 237 at 266 paragraphs B-D. The case of Boniface Adonike (Supra) once more brings to the fore the duty on sentencing authorities to show in the application of the law that society abhors cases of defilement of young girls. The law on defilement of under-aged girls in Nigeria is provided in Section 218 of the Criminal Code, Cap. 42, Laws of the Federation of Nigeria. The section provides that “any person who has unlawful carnal knowledge of a girl under the age of thirteen years is guilty of a felony, and is liable to imprisonment for life, with or without whipping”. Any person who attempts to have unlawful carnal knowledge of a girl under the age of thirteen years is guilty of a felony, and is liable to imprisonment for fourteen years, with or without whipping. A prosecution for either of the offences defined above in this section must be begun within two months after the offence is committed. A person cannot be convicted of either of the offences defined in this section upon the uncorroborated testimony of one witness.
Continue deceiving yourself!

Yinusa is already serving life imprisonment despite his heinous crimes abihuh
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