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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by adeiza4u(m): 10:57am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
I use to have similar experience as a young worker in God's church. Mine is a bit different from yours. Mine has always been evil; whenever someone is about to pass on, I see it in dreams and almost all of them turned out true. I always get scared of being an emisery of such news, but poor me, I always retracted to myself until one happened and I felt condemned as a murderer for weeks. I had to plead for mercy and shared with some of my pastors, who encouraged me to always voice out and intercede for people. To them, I'm a prophet unknown to me. I just pray God helps and always guide us on what to do when such comes up sir.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Karlifate: 10:57am On Aug 16, 2020
Righteousness89:


Ezekil 33:3-6
Eze kill?
How?

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by solreb: 10:58am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
If you're truly called you will obey fully the instructions from God irrespective of how the audience will feel. If you have searched the scripture carefully you will see instances of prophets including Elijah delivering unpalatable messages to kings risking their lives
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by thaoriginator: 10:58am On Aug 16, 2020
god tell you what? cry
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Goldenheart(m): 10:59am On Aug 16, 2020
The way Christians eat each other up shocked
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by hollarunji08(m): 10:59am On Aug 16, 2020
Lol...
Pastor wa, God will sure hold u responsible sir
U call urself a pastor and to say the truth become problem, what is the meaning of pastor you're calling urself then
Inside 2020 different things dey happen oo
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by bomsilaga(m): 10:59am On Aug 16, 2020
klenton:


I completely understand your situation
it's not easy been a our purveyor of bad news, u were only been human but God has shown you that his ways are beyond human understanding

but you should have somehow let them know about the message while still not discouraging them

at the same time, this is an opportunity missed for you as you would have been proving right to the glory of God while your stock rises
Is that all that matters?
I am very passionate about this topic because I have made many mistakes with this gift.
Losing G-d's trust is the most important thing but he will still present more opportunities for you to prove that you can be trusted.
Thinking of self will make you a Pharisee but your righteousness should exceed that of the Pharisees.
You will only go to hell when you shift focus from our lord Jesus.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by femi4: 11:00am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?
Its your imagination not God. God would have shown you more than once

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Keizzmann(m): 11:02am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?



I think what you need to learn about God is that he is no respecter of anyone. Hence you should also learn to not fear the person you're delivering God's message to, even more than God
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by wellmax(m): 11:03am On Aug 16, 2020
It's all a learning process.
Ask God for forgiveness and continue your ministry.
Next time when you hear God, obey Him 100%.

Never be afraid to say what God tells you.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Nobody: 11:03am On Aug 16, 2020
There's a popular saying in Israel.

When you talk to God, that's a good thing, when God talks to you (when you start hearing voices in your head), that's a bad thing.

Can you tell us how you know that God talked to you?
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by awoluyi(m): 11:05am On Aug 16, 2020
If God said the boy shouldn't leave Nigeria and he left and he is now back to Nigeria, so what's the problem?
All you need to do now is tell the boy why God said he should not leave Nigeria in the first instance.
I know God's reason wouldn't have being financial loss incurred.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Archbishop88: 11:08am On Aug 16, 2020
Honestly, there is a place of fear of what will people say. what if it didn't come to pass. These is applicable to most men of God. Please seek for forgiveness and read thoroughly the book of Ezekiel 3. We are only fortunate to be the tool or messenger to convene God's messages. God can as well reveal the message to another person, but he has counted you worthy to deliver the message. God who is full of mercy and grace has forgiven you. Please don't allow such to happen again. The recap of my gospel is that fear no man who can only destroy the body, but the Lord our God who can both kill the body and destroy the soul.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by seborrhic: 11:08am On Aug 16, 2020
Danwakae:



God no tell am anything... Yeye people
He is a fraud.
That's how they start.
Next they would be demanding for money because they self promote their scam visionary powers.
Let the op drop another of his visions here,codedly tell us where and to whom it would happen,so that it can be verified.
50 % of Nigerians who travel abroad end up having sad stories to tell.
So if I tell anyone travelling your journey may not end well,I have 50% chance of being correct.
Does that qualify me to be a pastor?

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by shadeyinka(m): 11:08am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?
Wisdom is profitable in direction.

You could have told him to pray and fast to prevent calamities befalling him because of his travel abroad. Ask him to take time to seek the face of God else.....(relate what you saw).

You would have
1. Delivered the message
2. Given a way out
3. Saying the consequence of not heeding the warning
WITHOUT Deciding for the person and making yourself a hater of good.

1Cor 14:32:
"And the spirits of the prophets [are] subject to the prophets."

Shalom
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by ModestGal(f): 11:08am On Aug 16, 2020
Danwakae:



God no tell am anything... Yeye people
Lol, leave them to be imaginating rubbish. This is why Africans have refused to grow

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by soleexx(m): 11:10am On Aug 16, 2020
You just scared because you already know the answer you will get if you warn the woman... I will only advice next time you talk to some senior pastor to help you deliver the message next time... Visions are very important, I'm not a pastor but I see them too through dreams... and few people have the gift to see them too .. God show us for reasons.. So we can deliver them to the people that needs it... If any of this happen again talk to a senior pastor to help you deliver it a easy way...
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Exmilitant(m): 11:10am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?
A true God would have killed you
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by ModestGal(f): 11:11am On Aug 16, 2020
awoluyi:
If God said the boy shouldn't leave Nigeria and he left and he is now back to Nigeria, so what's the problem?
All you need to do now is tell the boy why God said he should not leave Nigeria in the first instance.
I know God's reason wouldn't have being financial loss incurred.
1. Why will God tell anyone not to leave Nigeria?
2. Do America deport people legally living there without a reason? If he had done the right things will he be deported?
3. With all the visions and future seeing in Africa, Africa is still the poorest country with the poorest citizens.
4. How much dey op account? Why can't he see something he could innovate to become one of the world richest? I'm sure he's broke as Heck. Is it not better Africans stop seeing useless visions that has not contributed anything to their GDP?

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Comedian2019: 11:13am On Aug 16, 2020
You are a liar. God did not tell you anything.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by babadee1(m): 11:14am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?

If you are sure that God truly revealed something to you then the next thing you are supposed to do is to ask God what to do with the revelation. It's not everything that God reveals that he expects you to share. Sometimes he just wants you to pray about it that's all. Visions and revelations are divine communication and communication is all about relationship. Focus on building your personal relationship with God and don't worry too much about revelations.
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Topsic70: 11:14am On Aug 16, 2020
Why not ask d same 'God' dt gave u d revelation whether to spill d beans or not?
Don't u trust He dt started the good work to complete it?
You've started on a spiritual footing, how come u intend ending it on a carnal note?
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by ModestGal(f): 11:14am On Aug 16, 2020
adeiza4u:

I use to have similar experience as a young worker in God's church. Mine is a bit different from yours. Mine has always been evil; whenever someone is about to pass on, I see it in dreams and almost all of them turned out true. I always get scared of being an emisery of such news, but poor me, I always retracted to myself until one happened and I felt condemned as a murderer for weeks. I had to plead for mercy and shared with some of my pastors, who encouraged me to always voice out and intercede for people. To them, I'm a prophet unknown to me. I just pray God helps and always guide us on what to do when such comes up sir.
Prophet, abeg how much dey your account?
Wetin una don innovate?
Please stop deceiving gullible Nigerians and go for mental check up

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by twilliamx(m): 11:15am On Aug 16, 2020
Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?


Yoruba people say " ah kin beru eni to ba ran in lo ba, eni to ran in noise lan beru"

Meaning you shouldn't be afraid of the recipient but rather fear the one who sent you on an errand .

Please send me your details.. I want you to pray with me over a matter
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by ModestGal(f): 11:16am On Aug 16, 2020
DOnlooker:
I am more concerned about how the child just got deported back to Nigeria with closed international airspace (at least officially). Did the foreign government smuggle him back into the country via cargo plane ? Most countries have even halted repatriations since the outbreak of covid-19.
Okay, i agree, you are a detective

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Austin4Jesus(m): 11:18am On Aug 16, 2020
Dear Pastor,

Go and talk to God and ask for Mercy, not on nairaland, that issue is so sensitive to be discussed on this platform.

God help us all.

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Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by Sheggy13(m): 11:18am On Aug 16, 2020
bomsilaga:

Is that all that matters?
I am very passionate about this topic because I have made many mistakes with this gift.
Losing G-d's trust is the most important thing but he will still present more opportunities for you to prove that you can be trusted.
Thinking of self will make you a Pharisee but your righteousness should exceed that of the Pharisees.
You will only go to hell when you shift focus from our lord Jesus.
Is it a crime or a sin if you spell God completely? Why omitting the o and inserting a hypen instead. I've noticed that in all your posts on this thread. Or is the o button on your phone keypad unresponsive?
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by emerged01(m): 11:19am On Aug 16, 2020
Does having a spiritual gift means God calling?
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by twilliamx(m): 11:19am On Aug 16, 2020
DOnlooker:
I am more concerned about how the child just got deported back to Nigeria with closed international airspace (at least officially). Did the foreign government smuggle him back into the country via cargo plane ? Most countries have even halted repatriations since the outbreak of covid-19.
Maybe part of the people from china
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by felixawe(m): 11:20am On Aug 16, 2020
There's always a reward to disobedience. Because the one who sends is faithful
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by twilliamx(m): 11:20am On Aug 16, 2020
Karlifate:

Eze kill?
How?

Lmao
Re: Can God Blame Me For Not Telling A Church Member What God Told Me As A Pastor? by ModestGal(f): 11:20am On Aug 16, 2020
let us assume your fallacious vision and story was true, please if the boy had done the right things would he have been deported no matter the visions you saw? Unless the legal system of America is determined by spiritual visions as well and its vision that tells them who to deport and who. Not to deport. Do they just pick people and deport them?
Why should we place emphasy on spirituality that has only made this country backward? With the increase of spiritual men, if it actually works, then our country should be better in some ways, but alas!, we are moving backward everyday and our people are becoming poorer
Meanwhile, Nations that are using intelligence and logic to run their lives are doing way much better than us. Why continue stuffs that have never payed for 100 of years.

No matter how you say these visions and spirituality are true and works, the statistics of sick people, death, socioeconomic level of people is saying otherwise

Please why haven't you seen how and what you can do to make your life better? Simply seeing stuffs like TIKTOK, ZOOM, would have made your life become better. Or just see ordinary Covid19 cure, abi God is picky in what he shows Africans spiritual leader ?he wouldn't show them what would make them world reknown,

By next year, I'm very sure we would have a new thing that is going to rave the world, kindly see that and invent it or work on it so you can also be the next millionaire or billionaire and have your name written among world innovators. Please stop seeing useless things that wouldnt enrich you or anyone.

If this country Economy was good, the boy might have never seen America as heaven, so your vision would have been useless, because even if he was deported, it would make no difference. In fact, he won't bother to come pray under you over going to America.
America was made like that with logic, intelligence, not spiritual nonsense, the people stood up to make their country great and they were able to achieve that, meanwhile Africans were busy with useless spirituality all those times.

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