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| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:15pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
desiredhome:We don't pay tithe to become rich. We pay because it belongs to God who in turn protects us from evil. We don't pay tithe to become rich because it will be difficult for a rich man to make heaven while easy for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Taiwojon(m): 12:22pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
fulfilled God's commandments of tithes fir give unto God what belong to God pay your tithes |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Taiwojon(m): 12:22pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
fulfilled God's commandments of tithes first give unto God what belong to God pay your tithes |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by sonofthunder: 12:24pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Londonland:Show me where Jesus instructed his followers not to pay tithe or keep quite. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by davidinchrist(m): 12:26pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Alexgman1: Alexgman1:If anyone is REALLY concerned about pleasing Jesus and entering his Kingdom, here is what you need: John.14.15 - "IF you LOVE me, OBEY my commandments (in the New testament, especially Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). Question: Did Jesus or any of his apostles command it? ZERO! They taught 'cheerful giving' NOT compulsory giving of the law. In Matt. 23:23, Jesus was talking to Religious hypocrites, Pharisees NOT his disciples. Jesus is constantly about IF, not by force: if people don't want to obey or follow him, and strictly want to go to hell; right, he doesn't FORCE or STOP them. "It's "IF" you love me, obey me..." Again, for those who are very careful about God's kingdom, if you're not sure about something, just use these four tests by the Holy Spirit using the scriptures: 1. Did Jesus do it? (Matthew - John) 2. Did Jesus preach it? (Matthew - John) 3. Did the apostles do it? (Acts - Revelation) 4. Did the apostles preach it? (Acts - Revelation) Friends, if it loses these four counts, and I have no personal command from God to do such, then ALL the Great Pastors/Church founders and their followers can preach it; threaten and FOOL people with self-made, Religious LIES as much as they like, but not for me in Jesus name. Because EVERYONE is a LIAR compare to Christ. Rom. 3:4. And remember: Rom.10.4 - For Christ is THE END OF THE LAW for righteousness to EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES. May the Lord Jesus bless you. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by BRIGHT180(m): 12:31pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Tithing is not a Christian doctrine the Apostles collected donations(to support their ministry(2cor11:9, give to the poor or those in distress(romans 15:26 2cor9: Gal. 2:10)) early Christians but not a mandatory 10% on their income however if you decide to liberally engage the practice Glory to God if not Glory to God all the same On the issue of eternally reigning with God. Believing that God sent his son to die for the remission of our sins inputting in us the righteousness of God engrafting us into his family(romans 3,romans 5:17 john 3:16) and be resurrected as the lord over Gods creation and the hope of all that will believe on him(1cor 15) is more than enough to pass you from death to life.(Col. 1:12,13) The goal therefore should be living out the the life,light and love of God resident in us on account of salvation aided by constant fellowship through his word and prayer and most importantly "turning many to righteousness" |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by onojah4321(m): 12:34pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
hopefulLandlord:You believed this? It's funny how people God gave brains keep believing some glaring fictional statements. How did we get to this stage of enslaving ourselves with religion? God help us |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Investnow2017: 12:35pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:I forgot that Bible portion you quoted sometime concerning Abel paying tithe. Can you remind me again please? |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by akaahs(m): 12:38pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:D question is; how many times has Jesus pay his tithe?? |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Investnow2017: 12:40pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:Abel made an animal sacrifice long before the Judaism law, should Christians follow your principle and engage in making animal sacrfices too? |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 12:40pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
1) Abeg o, can someone explain how Job (a non-Jew) resident in the land of Uz was prosperous without paying tithe? 2) Can someone provide us with references of non-Jewish believers that practiced tithing in the early church? 3) Can someone provide us with references of the Apostles demanding tithes from the early Christians as part of the requirements to be met before God blesses them? 4) Can someone explain to us why Abram’s “one-off tithe” from warspoils should serve as a basis for Christians to part regularly with 10% of their “monthly” monetary income today? |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Dwiseone1: 12:40pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Believing in Christ is the only way to heaven not by tithing. When we get to heaven we are rewarded for the good deeds including paying tithe willingly, to promote the Gospel. You can go to heaven and not be rewarded because you didn't do anything other than believing in Christ and serving his Father. You can not serve the father effectively without doing good deeds. More so, we are saved so that we can do good works that pleases the Father. It is the father who is in us causing us to be willing and to do good things. So true Christians will make heaven. But to be rewarded in heaven we need to work for the kingdom of God. We need to win souls we need to be merciful to others, be faithful and uphold justice. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone". Matthew 23:23 NKJV |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Nobody: 12:42pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Wolgrace:Drop our senses? Lol...Sounds Familiar! |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by OkCornel(m): 12:43pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
When pro-tithers are ready to show us where God specifically mentioned money as part of the items to be tithed, then they should know that monetary tithing is unscriptural. When God required money for the needs of the Temple, He specifically mentioned where all Israelite males should be levied a temple tax of half a shekel every year. That was an instance of God clearly asking for money. Refer to Exodus 30 v 13-16 for where God gave the instruction through Moses;BASED ON THE ABOVE, IT WAS CLEAR WHEN GOD ASKED FOR MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE TEMPLE... NOW LET US EXAMINE GOD'S REQUIREMENT FOR TITHES Refer to Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29;Based on the above verses, God clearly mentioned what is titheable, and money was not part of the items to be tithed. IN CONCLUSION: So any fraudster that comes with the excuse that money was not in use because the Israelites were predominantly farmers and cattle rearers...should read Exodus 30 v 13-16 and explain to us why God demanded money from these same Israelites...but specified crops and livestock as tithes in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29; Also, I'll be waiting for scriptural references where God made tithing mandatory for gentiles as well. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by victorazyvictor(m): 12:54pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
solite3:You can't be born again and dont pay tithe..... None tither cant make heaven, believe it or leave it. Tithe is an evidence of membership of God's kingdom, is an instruction and obey between father and son, leader and subject. etc. dont be deceived. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:57pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Investnow2017:Abel's animal sacrifice was a picture of Jesus Christ the Holy Lamb who was slain for our sins. Abraham, Jacob and others also sacrificed the blood of animals or the forgiveness of their sins. All of that was a picture of the ultimate sacrifice to be done by Jesus Christ. Now that Jesus Christ has come, we no longer need to sacrifice animals because his death has taken away our sins. John 1:29 KJV The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 1 Peter 1:19-20 KJV 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 12:58pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
akaahs:The question should be is Jesus Christ God to you? If yes, then why should God pay tithe to himself? |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by seunayantokun(m): 1:02pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:If my church practises tithing, I must be part of it. If my church doesn't, I can't be guilty of not paying. I must keep the unity of the spirit and the church and by so doing fulfill the law of love and of the Lord. Tithing or no tithing might not be a sin. If your church practises it and you don't want to, leave. If your church doesn't practises it and you want to, go where you will be able to do your urging. It will be a serious sin to say you won't pay tithes in a church where it is judiciously used to pay salaries, meet needs of the needy, etc. There are debates today because church finances are not being managed in many places the way they should be managed. In churches where tithes are not paid, some other forms of donations and offerings are taken. The church is a place where spiritual and other kinds of needs are met, and those who are engaged in carrying out the roles have to be remunerated too. We need to understand the New covenant (testament) but we can't do that without properly understanding its basis which is contained in the Old Testament part of our Bible. From the Old Testament, I understand that God is not a straitjacketed public prosecutor looking for sinners to hang but He doesn't tolerate sin or rebellion. God is love. Where divine love prevails, there is no questioning or debating, and for that, we are all responsible, the clergy and the laity. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by rossovu: 1:02pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Youngzedd:God bless you! |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Hardtalk: 1:04pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:This is the most reasonable contribution amongst the thrash spewed by some here. Most some people comment at all? |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Giwoni: 1:06pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
hopefulLandlord:Where was it written in the Bible that if you don't pay tithes you will not make heaven? |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by rossovu: 1:06pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:So all the times Jesus was praying, He was praying to Himself. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by jUeLiZ: 1:07pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Kriss216:I don't understand sir.. please can you explain what you just typed |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by alBHAGDADI: 1:12pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
rossovu:He was praying to God the Father. Jesus had no need to tithe because he created everything |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Nobody: 1:13pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Righteousness89:Do you make animal sacrifices? Probably you'd be shocked that day for disobeying God in matter of sacrifices. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by TruthHurts100: 1:16pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Stop being gullible and stupid. Do you think they really care about your spiritual life? Do you think that was why they were fighting to reopen the churches? Na your money dem dey find. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by brainhgeek(m): 1:18pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Kriss216:Oshey!!! Record captain. Nominator of heaven candidates. No one comes to the father except through Jesus. You hear? |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Nobody: 1:19pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:Well, before the law came did God not destroy the world due to sin. So after the law you should still know what is sin. In the Old Testament laws you're not supposed to eat crustaceans. Tell me if eating crabs, crayfish and shrimps are sins because it's part of those laws. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Dalby(m): 1:20pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
Alexgman1:Non that died came back to tell us if they made it or not ![]() |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Nobody: 1:21pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:Animal sacrifices existed before Judaism. Why are you still not practising it? Apart for the fact that it's dubious to claim money as tithes. In those Old Testament laws money was never the tithes. |
| Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Investnow2017: 1:22pm On Aug 16, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI:Then dont you think the same line of reasoning can be applied in the matter of Tithing? I am just curious. |
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