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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:02pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
DappaD: When their Pastors read any verse in the Bible, they just cherry-pick whatever talk about heaven but what exactly they're going there to do is not known to them! Just imagine going to judge the angels and Michael the chief commander of God's heavenly armies will be judged by you, for what offence o? |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 2:16pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69: Horrendous. Very nauseating theology. This smells really bad. Jesus is Michael? He who the scriptures claim to be one with the father? He who is called the mighty God in Isaiah 9:6? He who is called King of kings and Lord of lords in Revelation 22? He who raised Lazarus from the dead. The Lord Jesus who walked on water and rebuked a raging storm. He who rebuked Satan and cast out devils, and gave His disciples authority to do the same. The disciples returned and said "Even the devils were subject to us at your name." Michael who could not rebuke Satan in the book of Jude, is Jesus? Why has the devil filled the earth with so much deceit and falsehood? This makes me weep. How on Earth can one study his Bible and still remains blinded, following the doctrines of men? Someone just told me now that Michael died for his sins. What type of Bible are you guys reading? One thing is certain, " At the name of Michael, no knee shall bow, and no tongue will confess that Michael is Lord." 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 2:19pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69: Why don't you interpret the said cherry-picked verse? When you want to lie, you simply deny evidence. The Bible said it so clearly. Please, distort that verse, and make it say what it does not say, as you do other scriptures. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:30pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
DappaD:I wont start trading insult with you. Since you have nothing upstairs you resulted to insult, typical of false witnesses. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:32pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
WizzyVine: He was given a new name on planet earth and at the pronouncement of his new name every knee must bow but Michael was his name before he came to the earth. That's why God's word said he has been exacted high above all others! Whether you like it or not know today that Michael is Jesus' name in the spirit realms, we've gotten the evidence more than ever today. If you want to refute it just present his subjects today on earth but remember that as the PRINCE of PEACE {Isaiah 9:6-7} there must be PEACE amongst them {John 14:27} throughout the earth and everyone must testify to the LOVE in their midst! John 13:34-35 |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:32pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Janosky:I can see your brain has started malfunctioning. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:36pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:you are very dull! So in your myopia, since those who believes there is God are not united then God is not real. An atheist can use same line of though to debunk the existence of God. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:36pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
WizzyVine: It's deeper things that you can't understand no matter how hard you try because you're not ready to submit to those given the understanding! Daniel 12:10 But if everyone hear want to know what judging the Angels means we will teach you! |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 2:39pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
wonders shall never end, so angel micheal is the one that die for your sin? each Such stupidity of immerse propensity! Meanwhile, the last time we meant in the other thread, I asked you a question which you dodged just like others Where is it written that micheal is Jesus? No long talk Maximus69: 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 3:00pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69: Hahaha. So you have such deeper things similar to you 'Michael is Jesus' ideology. Deeper things derived from twisted truths. Teacher, teach yourself. You who are washed by the blood of Michael and redeemed by his crucifixtion, will be welcomed to Michael's eternal kingdom at the end of time. That day is coming. It shall be very terrible for some people. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 3:19pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69: Surely, you have allowed Satan to fool you. Jesus was evidently revealed in the Bible. The Apostles who handed down the faith knew no Michael Jesus. Paul wrote many Epistles, even instructed the colossians not to worship angels. If Jesus was Michael, the book of colossians would have been the best place for Paul to mention it as the writer of Hebrews wrote about Melchizedek. One thing I know about Jesus is this, in John 1, He was called the Word of God. "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among men." In Revelation, He was also called the Word of God. Jesus pre-exihsted as the Word of God, and not as an angel. It was the Word that became flesh, not an angel becoming flesh. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 3:22pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
solite3: Where is it written that Jesus is Jehovah? No long talk |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 3:23pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
WizzyVine: Well let's all wait and see! |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 3:25pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:You my dear Sire, you're by the hour increasingly becoming more unbelievable. Smh. God is not my own or personal God, but He is a universal God, a worldwide God, an all-embracing God, an all-inclusive God, a catholic God, a global God et cetera God is Spirit, and his worshipers worships in the spirit and in truth, but not yours, the god of this world, that's blinded your minds so you don’t believe because of the deceit of the devil, your god of this world I reiterate that nothing beats a better workshop of Satan, more than JW Organisation and there can never be "Salem" in the midst of all these twisted worshipers belonging to the god of this WORLD, deserving punishment (i.e. Isaiah 48:22 and Isaiah 57:21) Prooftexting with Isaiah 9:7 and 1 Corinthians 14:33, trying hard to make fetch happen, wouldn't help you except you just know that, God is not, a God of sheeple and lemming(s) made up of Maximus69 and other Jehovah's Witnesses Organization members |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 3:25pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
WizzyVine: Just present a performing group of PEACE loving worshipers whose LOVE can be testified by all observers. Your faith without visible works is futile! James 2:26 |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 3:29pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: We have the PEACE that's why we agree amongst ourselves on the same line of thought, so we know our own God and we're 100% sure that our own God totally differs from yours! |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 3:33pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69: Faith is an individual thing, not congregational. What exactly do you call love? In 1Cor. 13, Paul wrote that one can give himself so much for another and yet have no love. True love happens only when you take God as God is, and take His word as He has presented it. Those who twist the scriptures have no love of God in them. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 3:46pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69:Yinmu MuttleyLaff: |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 3:54pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
WizzyVine: Simple question we've been asking all of you trinitarians for decades. Where did the Bible say that Jesus is the Almighty God ? As in show us the Bible verse that said “Jesus is God” verbatim please. Unless you saw Jesus in Isaiah 9:6 I suggest you don't quote it anymore since the idea of considering context eludes the most of you. |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 3:58pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Maximus69: John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jesus the word is God. Oya show me where it is written that Michael is Jesus 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 4:02pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
DappaD: Somebody that has all the power in heaven and on earth is what? Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. What is the meaning of "Almighty" again? |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 4:07pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
DappaD:"And Jesus said to him, "The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air nests; but the Son of Man has nowhere He might lay the head."" - Luke 9:58 The title the Son of Man often used by Yahusha Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, as like seen in Luke 9:58 above, is a clever, conscious, calculating and deliberate way of Yahusha Ha Mashiach expressing Himself for the benefit of the audience and/or hearers' understanding, that He, actually is begotten of the Father (i.e. revealing the Divinity and so divine side of Himself) and born of a mother (i.e. acknowledging the humanity and so humane, human being side of Himself) "For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will rest on his shoulders. And he will be called: Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" - Isaiah 9:6 "A voice cries: “In the wilderness prepare the way of the Lord; make straight in the desert a highway for our God." - Isaiah 40:3 Isaiah 9:6 is in harmony with Isaiah 40:3. Fyi, the voice crying in the wilderness is Jesus' cousin, John the Baptist PS: You too are warming up to now using "verbatim", smh, yet you couldn't produce verbatim your false allegation levied against me. KMT |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by WizzyVine: 4:08pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
DappaD: Before I answer your question, just first tell me right now, where the Bible says Jesus is angel Michael. Tell me right now, and I'll give you a whole drum of truth. You hate Isaiah 9:6 because it exposes your heresy. What's out of context in that scripture that explicitly prophesied the Virgin birth? Tell us now, just one scripture that says Jesus is Michael. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by MuttleyLaff: 4:10pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
WizzyVine:and show in verbatim too WizzyVine:There is no "Salem" for the twisted WizzyVine:The just one scripture that says Jesus is Michael must be verbatim |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 4:19pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
solite3: Where did the Bible say “Jesus is God” ? Simple! I don't need too much explanations. |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 4:20pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
WizzyVine: Me now I'm asking Where did the Bible say “Jesus is God” ? Simple! I don't need too much explanations. |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 4:20pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Where did the Bible say “Jesus is God” ? Simple! I don't need too much explanations. |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 4:21pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: ‘False sense of peace and security’ in the midst of 8.7million men and women across the globe who ✓ Have ALL vowed not to take up weapons of war or participate in military because of love for Jehovah God and love for neighbour (Matthew 22:37-40). Also because Jehovah God said he was going to eliminate war on planet earth in the future(Psalm 46:9) and we as his people have demonstrated that by not participating in war/strife. (Isaiah 2:2-4, Matthew 26:52) ✓ Have succeeded in erasing ALL traces of TRIBAL/RACIAL hate amongst themselves because love for our Christian brothers and sisters in the congregation surpasses all tribal/racial bias —John 13:34-35. This is evidently shown when you hear people say things like “Jehovah's Witnesses love only themselves” perhaps you people should argue with Jesus at John 13:34-35 The world is witness to what happened in Rwanda 1994—the mass slaughter of the Tutsi tribe by the Hutu tribes. I think you should go online and read more about what happened in so-called religious groups and then compare it to how Hutu Jehovah's Witnesses treated their brothers from the Tutsi tribe. Some even had to lose their lives on account of their brothers! ✓ Have eliminated ALL traces of political strife/wahala/divide amongst themselves. Political neutrality is the stand Jesus said his followers would maintain in the “last days” — John 6:15; 17:14,16; 18:36. And which other group has displayed all of these qualities determining true religion if not only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES? Mr MuttleyLaff, war, racism, tribalism, politics are what divides people/disrupts PEACE in all religions today and Jehovah's Witnesses, with Jesus(Prince of Peace as their leader—Isaiah 9:6,7;Ephesians 5:23) have succeeded in eliminating ALL traces of such from their midst. Until you're ready to show us a similar group that has achieved this, you'll only be wasting your time dragging this any further. ‘False sense of peace and security indeed’. |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Emusan(m): 4:22pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
Janosky: The Mr accolade is here again! It is me who wrote Isaiah 48:13 CJB My hand laid the foundation of the earth, my right hand spread out the heavens; when I summoned them, at once they rose into being. It is me who wrote Nehemiah 9:6 “‘You are Adonai, you alone. You made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their array, the earth and all the things that are in it, the seas and all that is in them; and you preserve them all. The army of heaven worships you. It is me who wrote Job 9:8 He alone spreads out the sky and walks on the waves in the sea. It is me who wrote Isaiah 44:24 Here is what Adonai says, your Redeemer, he who formed you in the womb: “I am Adonai, who makes all things, who stretched out the heavens all alone, who spread out the earth all by myself. Your man made doctrine of God uses a creature doesn't have any place in the Word of God. The LIENUS knows that Job 38:7 and Hebrews 1:2 , John 1:3 are part and parcel of the holy SCRIPTURES inspired by God. The deluded Mr accolade, Job 38:7 says "...Sons of God" so Jesus was not the only FIRST CREATED being (according to your man made doctrine) at that time but MANY Sons of God! Just like I do say, you people lack scriptural understanding but always thinking you know it all. I've explained that Job 38:7 to one of your deluded brother before, that was when God prepared earth to be habitable. Verses 9-10 still show it was Yahweh who was performing the action not a created being. 9 when I(Yahweh) made the clouds its blanket and dense fog its swaddling cloth, 10 when I(Yahweh) made the breakers its boundary set its gates and bars, Unless you want to tell us, this is a creature voice. Job 38:4-7, Bros RECEIVE SENSE Sons of God (MANY) contradicts your man made doctrine of ONE CREATURE was used. You'll never received sense. Have you delete Hebrew 1:2 from your Bible? Heb 1:2 corroborates Nehemiah 9:6. Yahweh can't lie to prophet Nehemiah that He ALONE made the heaven of heavens when it was someone who was actually doing it. So it's either you accept the statement of Yahweh Himself which Heb 1:2 attributed to His Son who is the eternal Word of Yahweh or you continue to die in your man made doctrine. No two ways about it! 2 Likes |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 4:26pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
WizzyVine: We've heard you Sir, but our own faith is a congregational matter that's why Jesus (Michael) counselled congregations (Churches) not individuals in the Bible book of Revelations! |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 4:27pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
DappaD:scroll up, my reply to maximus |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 4:30pm On Aug 30, 2020 |
solite3: The WORD of God and the word WAS God! Please show me where it is written like "Jesus IS God" simple! |
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