Maximus69:


@rabzy

Note the highlighted!

All what they want is for Jehovah's Witnesses to approve their form of worship, the Bible quotes doesn't really matter to them, they're just quoting out of envy so that observers won't say they can't quote God's word.
So they're always quoting out of context, all they're agitating upon is for JWs to agree with them that we are worshiping the same God with them so as long as you continue making similar assertion like the man who said

"I'm the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the (my) father (and God) except through me" John 14:6

They're restless and looking for ways to accuse you! John 10:20 compare to Matthew 10:25

I dont understand, they say they are right and we say we are right 50-50..How is that a curse?
We know what we worship, it is them that worship a mystery. We want no part of the mystery. We are certain of what we know, so we go to every door in every nation to preach and teach it to people. Ti ogun eni ba dani loju o ma fi n so ya ni

brocab:

Everytime you write something-you put the words out of context-"why can't Jesus receive His own authority-He made His own Choices just like we make choices everyday...
You just don't get it into your head-because I have taking authority into account by choice to write down the scriptures for you.
I have taking on the authority to stand on the Word of God-God gave me this authority-the time God called me into His kingdom, and I take His authority and use His Word to overcome those like you-who are trying to crush everything God promised He will do for His people.
And if you were to read the scriptures, it tells us No-one has seen God at any time, so how does one see Jehovah-if he doesn't see Jesus first.
God is Spirit-He is Love-but yet God the Father was working through Jesus, 'in Jesus, when Jesus came into the world in Spirit and in truth to save His people.

According to Jesus Christ@ John 17:1-2,
John 6:37,39. John 17:6,9,
Bros, Who gave authority to your Jesus is God?

John 17:1-3
Prayer for the Son
1When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, “Father, the hour has come....
2For You granted Him authority over all humanity, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. [b]3Now this is eternal life, [b]that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent



John 6:37
Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away.

John 6:39
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me,

John 17:6
Ihave revealed Your name to those You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours; You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.

John 17:9
I ask on their behalf. I do not ask on behalf of the world, but on behalf of those You have given Me; for they are Yours.


Bros, continue incriminating your false claims and EXPOSE your lack of SENSE

rabzy:


I dont understand, they say they are right and we say we are right 50-50..How is that a curse?
We know what we worship, it is them that worship a mystery. We want no part of the mystery. We are certain of what we know, so we go to every door in every nation to preach and teach it to people. Ti ogun eni ba dani loju o ma fi n so ya ni

@bolded

It becomes a CURSE when Elijah told the worshipers of Baal what Jehovah said and it's happened exactly according to the words of Elijah the man of the TRUE God!

They know deep within them that JWs have the truth so whatever comes out of our mouth scares them a lot, it's we that doesn't take their words as anything!

He said, “Watch out that you are not misled. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them!
Luke 21:8 NET
https://bible.com/bible/107/luk.21.8.NET

Eagban:
He said, “Watch out that you are not misled. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them!
Luke 21:8 NET
https://bible.com/bible/107/luk.21.8.NET

Of course Jesus made mention of deceivers yet he didn't say there will be no teachers to continue teaching his followers otherwise he wouldn't have said "teaching them to observe all the i have commanded you" Matthew 28:20
Jesus said he will appoint a faithful slave to feed his sheep in the endtime {Matthew 24:45} so how do we identify this slave?
By their FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-20

Maximus69:

Of course Jesus made mention of deceivers yet he didn't say there will be no teachers to continue teaching his followers otherwise he wouldn't have said "teaching them to observe all the i have commanded you" Matthew 28:20
Jesus said he will appoint a faithful slave to feed his sheep in the endtime {Matthew 24:45} so how do we identify this slave?
By their FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-20

false jw mad max
you were right in quoting Matthew 7:16-20 as regarding you false jw's

in verse 15 Jesus shows He is talking about you false prophets who come
in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves

verse 16 you will know them(false prophets) by their fruits

verse 20 So then, you will know them(false prophets) by their fruits


Mat 7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 
Mat 7:16  "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? 
Mat 7:17  "So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 
Mat 7:18  "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 
Mat 7:19  "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 
Mat 7:20  "So then, you will know them by their fruits.

I just love it-when you call Jesus my Jesus-obviously the Jesus that's written in the Word of God doesn't belong to you..

Janosky:


According to Jesus Christ@ John 17:1-2,
John 6:37,39. John 17:6,9,
Bros, Who gave authority to your Jesus is God?

John 17:1-3
Prayer for the Son
1When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, “Father, the hour has come....
2For You granted Him authority over all humanity, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. [b]3Now this is eternal life, [b]that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent



John 6:37
Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away.

John 6:39
And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me,

John 17:6
Ihave revealed Your name to those You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours; You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word.

John 17:9
I ask on their behalf. I do not ask on behalf of the world, but on behalf of those You have given Me; for they are Yours.


Bros, continue incriminating your false claims and EXPOSE your lack of SENSE

Maximus69:

Of course Jesus made mention of deceivers yet he didn't say there will be no teachers to continue teaching his followers otherwise he wouldn't have said "teaching them to observe all the i have commanded you" Matthew 28:20
Jesus said he will appoint a faithful slave to feed his sheep in the endtime {Matthew 24:45} so how do we identify this slave?
By their FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-20

unstable false jw mad max
you are indeed identified by your fruit
identified as of the world, identified as a son of the devil:

Maximus69:


it will take at least SIX fully armed military police officers to subdue just one single military intelligence officer of my kind, if it's just one combatant soldier i will make him regret the very day he joined the force but if he's not into martial arts of any kind then i'll make him eat and drink through his anus!

twelve Combatant mobile police officers are just like bloody civilians before one military intelligence officer!

Maximus69:

She's my QUEEN!
For your information, i always shave the hairs in her puSsy because she's mine and mine alone!

Joh 8:44  You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies.

Not only did Jesus make mention of deceivers-Jesus was preferring to you-you are a false teacher and the Watchtower is known as the false prophet!
So yes we need to beware of falsehood that comes knocking on our doors during the day..
The Watchtower that come to us in sheep clothing claiming to be some what a Christian deceiving themselves..

Maximus69:

Of course Jesus made mention of deceivers yet he didn't say there will be no teachers to continue teaching his followers otherwise he wouldn't have said "teaching them to observe all the i have commanded you" Matthew 28:20
Jesus said he will appoint a faithful slave to feed his sheep in the endtime {Matthew 24:45} so how do we identify this slave?
By their FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-20

You just answered it--this is enough proof to tell us you are a false prophet..
{John 14: 8-9} Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.” Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?…
So how does anyone come to the Father without Jesus standing at the Door..

rabzy:


All those scriptures you are quoting does not shed any light on the subject matter, so they just deflections...it does not apply to the subject matter nor does it apply to me as a person or JW as a group.

As of this material time this is what i want from you

Show us proof that KJV is the best version of the Bible
As claimed by you..JWs teach that you dont need Jesus to get to the father, show us any of our publications in the past 130 years that says that.
These are not even doctrinal issues, these are just your words..defend it oga.
Anything other than this...then have a good day Sir....and stop spreading lies...

So, this thread is still on. The Jehovah Witness will never admit they are a false group. They turn the Bible upside down. They are anti Christ. Their punishment will be worse in the very hell they don't believe exist.

Ken4Christ:
So, this thread is still on. The Jehovah Witness will never admit they are a false group. They turn the Bible upside down. They are anti Christ. Their punishment will be worse in the very hell they don't believe exist.

What are the criteria to indentify true Christains?

haddeylium:


What are the criteria to indentify true Christains?

Watch out for his answer

Expo: “Holy Ghost will teach you”

Sometimes I just don't know what these churchgoers use their brains for.

brocab:
Not only did Jesus make mention of deceivers-Jesus was preferring to you-you are a false teacher and the Watchtower is known as the false prophet!
So yes we need to beware of falsehood that comes knocking on our doors during the day..
The Watchtower that come to us in sheep clothing claiming to be some what a Christian deceiving themselves..

Well the Watchtower have gathered over 8.7 million individuals from different races under the heavens and taught them never to raise weapons against their fellowman neither will they learn war anymore {Isaiah 2:2-4} of course that's the work of the PRINCE of PEACE {Isaiah 9:6-7} we've seen this and that's why we are Witnesses of the fact that Jesus' teachings is powerful enough to settle all the disputes that's making people carry weapons to kill one another! Micah 4:1-3
So you can continue deceiving yourself and blurring your own sight! 2Corinthians 4:4

DappaD:


Watch out for his answer

Expo: “Holy Ghost will teach you”

Sometimes I just don't know what these churchgoers use their brains for.

Jesus said "go and make disciples"

But Pastors programmed Churchgoers brains to go and bring money by any means so that Pastors can have all material possessions!

DappaD:


Watch out for his answer

Expo: “Holy Ghost will teach you”

Sometimes I just don't know what these churchgoers use their brains for.

It's so funny
It's sad tho

haddeylium:


What are the criteria to indentify true Christains?

First, to be a Christian, you must accept the salvation God has provided for mankind which is available to all by faith and it came on the platform of grace. You must believe that Jesus died for you, he was buried and rose again on the third day to justify you. You must act on Romans 10:9-10 to be saved. First believe in your heart that Jesus died for you and he was raised from the dead. Second, confess with your mouth his Lordship over your life.

The Jehovah Witness do not believe that Jesus resurrected bodily. So they deny the very foundation on which Christianity is based.

Second, do the work of the ministry which is hinged on soul winning. This is where most Christians are failing. The church must be re awaken to the need of Soul Winning.

Third, you must make effort to live right. Be quick to repent when you fall into error.

Fourthly, you must walk in love. Love walk is our identity badge. The Scripture says:

He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.(1st John 4:

Lastly, a true Christian must be committed in every way to the service of the Lord in such a way that it contributes to the overall growth of the church. For example, you must attend church regularly, give quality offering, pay your tithe, help the poor and participate in one activity group or the other.

Ken4Christ:


First, to be a Christian, you must accept the salvation God has provided for mankind which is available to all by faith and it came on the platform of grace. You must believe that Jesus died for you, he was buried and rose again on the third day to justify you. You must act on Romans 10:9-10 to be saved. First believe in your heart that Jesus died for you and he was raised from the dead. Second, confess with your mouth his Lordship over your life.

The Jehovah Witness do not believe that Jesus resurrected bodily. So they deny the very foundation on which Christianity is based.

Second, do the work of the ministry which is hinged on soul winning. This is where most Christians are failing. The church must be re awaken to the need of Soul Winning.

Third, you must make effort to live right. Be quick to repent when you fall into error.

Fourthly, you must walk in love. Love walk is our identity badge. The Scripture says:

He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.(1st John 4:

Lastly, a true Christian must be committed in every way to the service of the Lord in such a way that it contributes to the overall growth of the church. For example, you must attend church regularly, give quality offering, pay your tithe, help the poor and participate in one activity group or the other.

Come and join me sing Hallelujah!

After all the story telling, you began adding what you can't find in the New Testament and to expose your ignorance you failed to use the scriptures to back your assertion.

OK let's see the difference now!

The only two criteria for someone to become a Christian is (1) Humility (2) Willingness to accept correction! Zephaniah 2:2-3
The thief Jesus promised Paradise never lived a holy life but he was humble to accept Jesus as a King and secondly he was willing to accept correction! Luke 23:39-43

Ken4Christ:


First, to be a Christian, you must accept the salvation God has provided for mankind which is available to all by faith and it came on the platform of grace. You must believe that Jesus died for you, he was buried and rose again on the third day to justify you. You must act on Romans 10:9-10 to be saved. First believe in your heart that Jesus died for you and he was raised from the dead. Second, confess with your mouth his Lordship over your life.

The Jehovah Witness do not believe that Jesus resurrected bodily. So they deny the very foundation on which Christianity is based.

Second, do the work of the ministry which is hinged on soul winning. This is where most Christians are failing. The church must be re awaken to the need of Soul Winning.

Third, you must make effort to live right. Be quick to repent when you fall into error.

Fourthly, you must walk in love. Love walk is our identity badge. The Scripture says:

He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.(1st John 4:

Lastly, a true Christian must be committed in every way to the service of the Lord in such a way that it contributes to the overall growth of the church. For example, you must attend church regularly, give quality offering, pay your tithe, help the poor and participate in one activity group or the other.

Believe me when I say the version of Jw about Jesus you have is wrong.
Cos' Jw believe in Jesus and that he came to earth from heaven and gave his perfect life as a ransom sacrifice .Even his death and resurrection make it possible for those exercising faith in him to gain everlasting life (Matthew 20:28 John 3:16)


I'm more interested in what Jesus saud would be use to identify Christains that you mentioned

“If you have love among yourselves, people will know you're my disciples"
"Follow Jesus' command by preaching the gospel of God's kingdom as mankind only hope


Present that religious group here (apart from Jw) and might consider worshipping with them?
Just one oo

The New World Translation (NWT) is defined by the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ parent organization (the Watchtower Society) as "a translation of the Holy Scriptures made directly from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek into modern-day English by a committee of anointed witnesses of Jehovah." The NWT is the anonymous work of the “New World Bible Translation Committee.” Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the anonymity is in place so that the credit for the work will go to God. Of course, this has the added benefit of keeping the translators from any accountability for their errors and prevents real scholars from checking their academic credentials.

The New World Translation is unique in one thing – it is the first intentional, systematic effort at producing a complete version of the Bible that is edited and revised for the specific purpose of agreeing with a group’s doctrine. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Society realized that their beliefs contradicted Scripture. So, rather than conforming their beliefs to Scripture, they altered Scripture to agree with their beliefs. The “New World Bible Translation Committee” went through the Bible and changed any Scripture that did not agree with Jehovah’s Witness theology. This is clearly demonstrated by the fact that, as new editions of the New World Translation were published, additional changes were made to the biblical text. As biblical Christians continued to point out Scriptures that clearly argue for the deity of Christ (for example), the Watchtower Society would publish new editions of the New World Translation with those Scriptures changed. Here are some of the more prominent examples of intentional revisions:

The New World Translation renders the Greek term word staurós ("cross" as "torture stake" because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe that Jesus was crucified on a cross. The New World Translation does not translate the words sheol, hades, gehenna, and tartarus as "hell” because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe in hell. The NWT gives the translation "presence" instead of “coming” for the Greek word parousia because Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Christ has already returned in the early 1900s. In Colossians 1:16, the NWT inserts the word “other” despite its being completely absent from the original Greek text. It does this to give the view that “all other things” were created by Christ, instead of what the text says, “all things were created by Christ.” This is to go along with their belief that Christ is a created being, which they believe because they deny the Trinity.

The most well-known of all the New World Translation perversions is John 1:1. The original Greek text reads, “the Word was God.” The NWT renders it as “the word was a god.” This is not a matter of correct translation, but of reading one’s preconceived theology into the text, rather than allowing the text to speak for itself. There is no indefinite article in Greek (in English, "a" or "an", so any use of an indefinite article in English must be added by the translator. This is grammatically acceptable, so long as it does not change the meaning of the text.

There is a good reason why theos has no definite article in John 1:1 and why the New World Translation rendering is in error. There are three general rules we need to understand to see why.

1. In Greek, word order does not determine word usage like it does in English. In English, a sentence is structured according to word order: Subject - Verb - Object. Thus, "Harry called the dog" is not equivalent to "the dog called Harry." But in Greek, a word’s function is determined by the case ending found attached to the word’s root. There are two case endings for the root theo: one is -s (theos), the other is -n (theon). The -s ending normally identifies a noun as being the subject of a sentence, while the -n ending normally identifies a noun as the direct object.

2. When a noun functions as a predicate nominative (in English, a noun that follows a being verb such as "is", its case ending must match the noun’s case that it renames, so that the reader will know which noun it is defining. Therefore, theo must take the -s ending because it is renaming logos. Therefore, John 1:1 transliterates to "kai theos en ho logos." Is theos the subject, or is logos? Both have the -s ending. The answer is found in the next rule.

3. In cases where two nouns appear, and both take the same case ending, the author will often add the definite article to the word that is the subject in order to avoid confusion. John put the definite article on logos (“the Word”) instead of on theos. So, logos is the subject, and theos is the predicate nominative. In English, this results in John 1:1 being read as "and the Word was God" (instead of "and God was the word".

The most revealing evidence of the Watchtower’s bias is their inconsistent translation technique. Throughout the Gospel of John, the Greek word theon occurs without a definite article. The New World Translation renders none of these as “a god.” Even more inconsistent, in John 1:18, the NWT translates the same term as both "God" and "god" in the very same sentence.

The Watchtower, therefore, has no hard textual grounds for their translation—only their own theological bias. While New World Translation defenders might succeed in showing that John 1:1 can be translated as they have done, they cannot show that it is the proper translation. Nor can they explain the fact that that the NWT does not translate the same Greek phrases elsewhere in the Gospel of John the same way. It is only the pre-conceived heretical rejection of the deity of Christ that forces the Watchtower Society to inconsistently translate the Greek text, thus allowing their error to gain some semblance of legitimacy in the minds of those ignorant of the facts.

It is only the Watchtower’s pre-conceived heretical beliefs that are behind the dishonest and inconsistent translation that is the New World Translation. The New World Translation is most definitely not a valid version of God’s Word. There are minor differences among all the major English translations of the Bible. No English translation is perfect. However, while other Bible translators make minor mistakes in the rendering of the Hebrew and Greek text into English, the NWT intentionally changes the rendering of the text to conform to Jehovah’s Witness theology. The New World Translation is a perversion, not a version, of the Bible.

DappaD:


Watch out for his answer

Expo: “Holy Ghost will teach you”

Sometimes I just don't know what these churchgoers use their brains for.

See how you were making empty boast before the person responds. Show us where he used HOLY GHOST will teach you from his response .

DappaD: Sometimes I just don't know what these churchgoers use their brains for

Achorladey: After seeing his response, what do you think the churchgoers use their brains for?

haddeylium:



Believe me when I say the version of Jw about Jesus you have is wrong.
Cos' Jw believe in Jesus and that he came to earth from heaven and gave his perfect life as a ransom sacrifice .Even his death and resurrection make it possible for those exercising faith in him to gain everlasting life (Matthew 20:28 John 3:16)


I'm more interested in what Jesus saud would be use to identify Christains that you mentioned

“If you have love among yourselves, people will know you're my disciples"
"Follow Jesus' command by preaching the gospel of God's kingdom as mankind only hope


Present that religious group here (apart from Jw) and might consider worshipping with them?
Just one oo

Did you read his response or you were looking for RELIGIOUS GROUPS or hoping to raise your RELIGIOUS GROUP above the other ones.

Did you see the below in his post to you or not?


Fourthly, you must walk in love. Love walk is our identity badge. The Scripture says:

He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love

Maximus69:


Come and join me sing Hallelujah!

After all the story telling, you began adding what you can't find in the New Testament and to expose your ignorance you failed to use the scriptures to back your assertion.

OK let's see the difference now!

The only two criteria for someone to become a Christian is (1) Humility (2) Willingness to accept correction! Zephaniah 2:2-3
The thief Jesus promised Paradise never lived a holy life but he was humble to accept Jesus as a King and secondly he was willing to accept correction! Luke 23:39-43

Maximus69: The only two criteria for someone to become a Christian is (1) Humility (2) Willingness to accept correction! Zephaniah 2:2-3


Achorladey: What is the correlation between the scripture Zephaniah 2:2-3 and being a true Christian.

A pure case of using the scripture to fit preconceived ideas and mindset

Maximus69: to expose your ignorance you failed to use the scriptures to back your assertion.

Achorladey: There is Romans there is John shine your eyes. Person that want to expose other persons ignorance but can't see the one present inside of him

Eagban:
The New World Translation (NWT) is defined by the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ parent organization (the Watchtower Society) as "a translation of the Holy Scriptures made directly from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek into modern-day English by a committee of anointed witnesses of Jehovah." The NWT is the anonymous work of the “New World Bible Translation Committee.” Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the anonymity is in place so that the credit for the work will go to God. Of course, this has the added benefit of keeping the translators from any accountability for their errors and prevents real scholars from checking their academic credentials.

The New World Translation is unique in one thing – it is the first intentional, systematic effort at producing a complete version of the Bible that is edited and revised for the specific purpose of agreeing with a group’s doctrine. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Society realized that their beliefs contradicted Scripture. So, rather than conforming their beliefs to Scripture, they altered Scripture to agree with their beliefs. The “New World Bible Translation Committee” went through the Bible and changed any Scripture that did not agree with Jehovah’s Witness theology. This is clearly demonstrated by the fact that, as new editions of the New World Translation were published, additional changes were made to the biblical text. As biblical Christians continued to point out Scriptures that clearly argue for the deity of Christ (for example), the Watchtower Society would publish new editions of the New World Translation with those Scriptures changed. Here are some of the more prominent examples of intentional revisions:

The New World Translation renders the Greek term word staurós ("cross" as "torture stake" because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe that Jesus was crucified on a cross. The New World Translation does not translate the words sheol, hades, gehenna, and tartarus as "hell” because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe in hell. The NWT gives the translation "presence" instead of “coming” for the Greek word parousia because Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Christ has already returned in the early 1900s. In Colossians 1:16, the NWT inserts the word “other” despite its being completely absent from the original Greek text. It does this to give the view that “all other things” were created by Christ, instead of what the text says, “all things were created by Christ.” This is to go along with their belief that Christ is a created being, which they believe because they deny the Trinity.

The most well-known of all the New World Translation perversions is John 1:1. The original Greek text reads, “the Word was God.” The NWT renders it as “the word was a god.” This is not a matter of correct translation, but of reading one’s preconceived theology into the text, rather than allowing the text to speak for itself. There is no indefinite article in Greek (in English, "a" or "an", so any use of an indefinite article in English must be added by the translator. This is grammatically acceptable, so long as it does not change the meaning of the text.

There is a good reason why theos has no definite article in John 1:1 and why the New World Translation rendering is in error. There are three general rules we need to understand to see why.

1. In Greek, word order does not determine word usage like it does in English. In English, a sentence is structured according to word order: Subject - Verb - Object. Thus, "Harry called the dog" is not equivalent to "the dog called Harry." But in Greek, a word’s function is determined by the case ending found attached to the word’s root. There are two case endings for the root theo: one is -s (theos), the other is -n (theon). The -s ending normally identifies a noun as being the subject of a sentence, while the -n ending normally identifies a noun as the direct object.

2. When a noun functions as a predicate nominative (in English, a noun that follows a being verb such as "is", its case ending must match the noun’s case that it renames, so that the reader will know which noun it is defining. Therefore, theo must take the -s ending because it is renaming logos. Therefore, John 1:1 transliterates to "kai theos en ho logos." Is theos the subject, or is logos? Both have the -s ending. The answer is found in the next rule.

3. In cases where two nouns appear, and both take the same case ending, the author will often add the definite article to the word that is the subject in order to avoid confusion. John put the definite article on logos (“the Word”) instead of on theos. So, logos is the subject, and theos is the predicate nominative. In English, this results in John 1:1 being read as "and the Word was God" (instead of "and God was the word".

The most revealing evidence of the Watchtower’s bias is their inconsistent translation technique. Throughout the Gospel of John, the Greek word theon occurs without a definite article. The New World Translation renders none of these as “a god.” Even more inconsistent, in John 1:18, the NWT translates the same term as both "God" and "god" in the very same sentence.

The Watchtower, therefore, has no hard textual grounds for their translation—only their own theological bias. While New World Translation defenders might succeed in showing that John 1:1 can be translated as they have done, they cannot show that it is the proper translation. Nor can they explain the fact that that the NWT does not translate the same Greek phrases elsewhere in the Gospel of John the same way. It is only the pre-conceived heretical rejection of the deity of Christ that forces the Watchtower Society to inconsistently translate the Greek text, thus allowing their error to gain some semblance of legitimacy in the minds of those ignorant of the facts.

It is only the Watchtower’s pre-conceived heretical beliefs that are behind the dishonest and inconsistent translation that is the New World Translation. The New World Translation is most definitely not a valid version of God’s Word. There are minor differences among all the major English translations of the Bible. No English translation is perfect. However, while other Bible translators make minor mistakes in the rendering of the Hebrew and Greek text into English, the NWT intentionally changes the rendering of the text to conform to Jehovah’s Witness theology. The New World Translation is a perversion, not a version, of the Bible.

WAYO plagiarist

Abeg give the credit to the Author whose FICTITIOUS claims you copied .
Plagiarism is a criminal offence

achorladey:



Did you read his response or you were looking for RELIGIOUS GROUPS or hoping to raise your RELIGIOUS GROUP above the other ones.

Did you see the below in his post to you or not?


Fourthly, you must walk in love. Love walk is our identity badge. The Scripture says:

He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love

There are over 41,000 denomination and he singled out Jw group as the only group not following Jesus' commands


I want him to present a better performing group?
Atleast we would start from there

While you're here, you could help

Eagban:
The New World Translation (NWT) is defined by the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ parent organization (the Watchtower Society) as "a translation of the Holy Scriptures made directly from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek into modern-day English by a committee of anointed witnesses of Jehovah." The NWT is the anonymous work of the “New World Bible Translation Committee.” Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the anonymity is in place so that the credit for the work will go to God. Of course, this has the added benefit of keeping the translators from any accountability for their errors and prevents real scholars from checking their academic credentials.

The New World Translation is unique in one thing – it is the first intentional, systematic effort at producing a complete version of the Bible that is edited and revised for the specific purpose of agreeing with a group’s doctrine. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Society realized that their beliefs contradicted Scripture. So, rather than conforming their beliefs to Scripture, they altered Scripture to agree with their beliefs. The “New World Bible Translation Committee” went through the Bible and changed any Scripture that did not agree with Jehovah’s Witness theology. This is clearly demonstrated by the fact that, as new editions of the New World Translation were published, additional changes were made to the biblical text. As biblical Christians continued to point out Scriptures that clearly argue for the deity of Christ (for example), the Watchtower Society would publish new editions of the New World Translation with those Scriptures changed. Here are some of the more prominent examples of intentional revisions:

The New World Translation renders the Greek term word staurós ("cross" as "torture stake" because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe that Jesus was crucified on a cross. The New World Translation does not translate the words sheol, hades, gehenna, and tartarus as "hell” because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe in hell. The NWT gives the translation "presence" instead of “coming” for the Greek word parousia because Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Christ has already returned in the early 1900s. In Colossians 1:16, the NWT inserts the word “other” despite its being completely absent from the original Greek text. It does this to give the view that “all other things” were created by Christ, instead of what the text says, “all things were created by Christ.” This is to go along with their belief that Christ is a created being, which they believe because they deny the Trinity.

The most well-known of all the New World Translation perversions is John 1:1. The original Greek text reads, “the Word was God.” The NWT renders it as “the word was a god.” This is not a matter of correct translation, but of reading one’s preconceived theology into the text, rather than allowing the text to speak for itself. There is no indefinite article in Greek (in English, "a" or "an", so any use of an indefinite article in English must be added by the translator. This is grammatically acceptable, so long as it does not change the meaning of the text.

There is a good reason why theos has no definite article in John 1:1 and why the New World Translation rendering is in error. There are three general rules we need to understand to see why.

1. In Greek, word order does not determine word usage like it does in English. In English, a sentence is structured according to word order: Subject - Verb - Object. Thus, "Harry called the dog" is not equivalent to "the dog called Harry." But in Greek, a word’s function is determined by the case ending found attached to the word’s root. There are two case endings for the root theo: one is -s (theos), the other is -n (theon). The -s ending normally identifies a noun as being the subject of a sentence, while the -n ending normally identifies a noun as the direct object.

2. When a noun functions as a predicate nominative (in English, a noun that follows a being verb such as "is", its case ending must match the noun’s case that it renames, so that the reader will know which noun it is defining. Therefore, theo must take the -s ending because it is renaming logos. Therefore, John 1:1 transliterates to "kai theos en ho logos." Is theos the subject, or is logos? Both have the -s ending. The answer is found in the next rule.

3. In cases where two nouns appear, and both take the same case ending, the author will often add the definite article to the word that is the subject in order to avoid confusion. John put the definite article on logos (“the Word”) instead of on theos. So, logos is the subject, and theos is the predicate nominative. In English, this results in John 1:1 being read as "and the Word was God" (instead of "and God was the word".

The most revealing evidence of the Watchtower’s bias is their inconsistent translation technique. Throughout the Gospel of John, the Greek word theon occurs without a definite article. The New World Translation renders none of these as “a god.” Even more inconsistent, in John 1:18, the NWT translates the same term as both "God" and "god" in the very same sentence.

The Watchtower, therefore, has no hard textual grounds for their translation—only their own theological bias. While New World Translation defenders might succeed in showing that John 1:1 can be translated as they have done, they cannot show that it is the proper translation. Nor can they explain the fact that that the NWT does not translate the same Greek phrases elsewhere in the Gospel of John the same way. It is only the pre-conceived heretical rejection of the deity of Christ that forces the Watchtower Society to inconsistently translate the Greek text, thus allowing their error to gain some semblance of legitimacy in the minds of those ignorant of the facts.

It is only the Watchtower’s pre-conceived heretical beliefs that are behind the dishonest and inconsistent translation that is the New World Translation. The New World Translation is most definitely not a valid version of God’s Word. There are minor differences among all the major English translations of the Bible. No English translation is perfect. However, while other Bible translators make minor mistakes in the rendering of the Hebrew and Greek text into English, the NWT intentionally changes the rendering of the text to conform to Jehovah’s Witness theology. The New World Translation is a perversion, not a version, of the Bible.

What make the whole thing funny is the below from the magazines. They too know that their NWT translation is not INSPIRED by GOD. It means those who translated NWT are not INSPIRED by God.


From the picture below note ANY OTHER TRANSLATIONS.......... NWT included. See how they list Wycliffe and King James but leave their own out of the list

Eagban:
The New World Translation (NWT) is defined by the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ parent organization (the Watchtower Society) as "a translation of the Holy Scriptures made directly from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek into modern-day English by a committee of anointed witnesses of Jehovah." The NWT is the anonymous work of the “New World Bible Translation Committee.” Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the anonymity is in place so that the credit for the work will go to God. Of course, this has the added benefit of keeping the translators from any accountability for their errors and prevents real scholars from checking their academic credentials.

The New World Translation is unique in one thing – it is the first intentional, systematic effort at producing a complete version of the Bible that is edited and revised for the specific purpose of agreeing with a group’s doctrine. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Society realized that their beliefs contradicted Scripture. So, rather than conforming their beliefs to Scripture, they altered Scripture to agree with their beliefs. The “New World Bible Translation Committee” went through the Bible and changed any Scripture that did not agree with Jehovah’s Witness theology. This is clearly demonstrated by the fact that, as new editions of the New World Translation were published, additional changes were made to the biblical text. As biblical Christians continued to point out Scriptures that clearly argue for the deity of Christ (for example), the Watchtower Society would publish new editions of the New World Translation with those Scriptures changed. Here are some of the more prominent examples of intentional revisions:

The New World Translation renders the Greek term word staurós ("cross" as "torture stake" because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe that Jesus was crucified on a cross. The New World Translation does not translate the words sheol, hades, gehenna, and tartarus as "hell” because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe in hell. The NWT gives the translation "presence" instead of “coming” for the Greek word parousia because Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Christ has already returned in the early 1900s. In Colossians 1:16, the NWT inserts the word “other” despite its being completely absent from the original Greek text. It does this to give the view that “all other things” were created by Christ, instead of what the text says, “all things were created by Christ.” This is to go along with their belief that Christ is a created being, which they believe because they deny the Trinity.

The most well-known of all the New World Translation perversions is John 1:1. The original Greek text reads, “the Word was God.” The NWT renders it as “the word was a god.” This is not a matter of correct translation, but of reading one’s preconceived theology into the text, rather than allowing the text to speak for itself. There is no indefinite article in Greek (in English, "a" or "an", so any use of an indefinite article in English must be added by the translator. This is grammatically acceptable, so long as it does not change the meaning of the text.

There is a good reason why theos has no definite article in John 1:1 and why the New World Translation rendering is in error. There are three general rules we need to understand to see why.

1. In Greek, word order does not determine word usage like it does in English. In English, a sentence is structured according to word order: Subject - Verb - Object. Thus, "Harry called the dog" is not equivalent to "the dog called Harry." But in Greek, a word’s function is determined by the case ending found attached to the word’s root. There are two case endings for the root theo: one is -s (theos), the other is -n (theon). The -s ending normally identifies a noun as being the subject of a sentence, while the -n ending normally identifies a noun as the direct object.

2. When a noun functions as a predicate nominative (in English, a noun that follows a being verb such as "is", its case ending must match the noun’s case that it renames, so that the reader will know which noun it is defining. Therefore, theo must take the -s ending because it is renaming logos. Therefore, John 1:1 transliterates to "kai theos en ho logos." Is theos the subject, or is logos? Both have the -s ending. The answer is found in the next rule.

3. In cases where two nouns appear, and both take the same case ending, the author will often add the definite article to the word that is the subject in order to avoid confusion. John put the definite article on logos (“the Word”) instead of on theos. So, logos is the subject, and theos is the predicate nominative. In English, this results in John 1:1 being read as "and the Word was God" (instead of "and God was the word".

The most revealing evidence of the Watchtower’s bias is their inconsistent translation technique. Throughout the Gospel of John, the Greek word theon occurs without a definite article. The New World Translation renders none of these as “a god.” Even more inconsistent, in John 1:18, the NWT translates the same term as both "God" and "god" in the very same sentence.

The Watchtower, therefore, has no hard textual grounds for their translation—only their own theological bias. While New World Translation defenders might succeed in showing that John 1:1 can be translated as they have done, they cannot show that it is the proper translation. Nor can they explain the fact that that the NWT does not translate the same Greek phrases elsewhere in the Gospel of John the same way. It is only the pre-conceived heretical rejection of the deity of Christ that forces the Watchtower Society to inconsistently translate the Greek text, thus allowing their error to gain some semblance of legitimacy in the minds of those ignorant of the facts.

It is only the Watchtower’s pre-conceived heretical beliefs that are behind the dishonest and inconsistent translation that is the New World Translation. The New World Translation is most definitely not a valid version of God’s Word. There are minor differences among all the major English translations of the Bible. No English translation is perfect. However, while other Bible translators make minor mistakes in the rendering of the Hebrew and Greek text into English, the NWT intentionally changes the rendering of the text to conform to Jehovah’s Witness theology. The New World Translation is a perversions, not a version, of the Bible.

Which Bible translation do you prefer?

The world is full of cult's-in great numbers these are flocking from the 4 corners of this planet in all sizes.
Satan's been bragging since time began, so 8.7 million is a small few to be proud off.
The world is full of true believing Christians waiting for Christ's return, billions that use Spiritual weapon's such as the Word of God to come up against those 'who deny the truth.

Maximus69:


Well the Watchtower have gathered over 8.7 million individuals from different races under the heavens and taught them never to raise weapons against their fellowman neither will they learn war anymore {Isaiah 2:2-4} of course that's the work of the PRINCE of PEACE {Isaiah 9:6-7} we've seen this and that's why we are Witnesses of the fact that Jesus' teachings is powerful enough to settle all the disputes that's making people carry weapons to kill one another! Micah 4:1-3
So you can continue deceiving yourself and blurring your own sight! 2Corinthians 4:4

haddeylium:




There are over 41,000 denomination and he singled out Jw group as the only group not following Jesus' commands


I want him to present a better performing group? Atleast we would start from there

While you're here, you could help

My point is he answered your question well enough.

The question you should be asking is did JESUS ask you to look for better performing group?

Is it a better performing group that IDENTIFIES true CHRISTIANS .

For example

JWS do state in their magazines increase in numbers shows God's blessing on the JWS. Since that's the case the closed siblings to the JWs the SDA and LDS have higher numbers than the JWS that shows Gods blessing is with them. Why don't you join them or affiliate with them?

achorladey:


My point is he answered your question well enough.

The question you should be asking is did JESUS ask you to look for better performing group?

Is it a better performing group that IDENTIFIES true CHRISTIANS .

For example

JWS do state in their magazines increase in numbers shows God's blessing on the JWS. Since that's the case the closed siblings to the JWs the SDA and LDS have higher numbers than the JWS to sure Gods blessing is with them. Why don't you join them or affiliate with them?

where have you been,hope you are good Mr snake man

achorladey:


My point is he answered your question well enough.

The question you should be asking is did JESUS ask you to look for better performing group?

Is it a better performing group that IDENTIFIES true CHRISTIANS .

For example

JWS do state in their magazines increase in numbers shows God's blessing on the JWS. Since that's the case the closed siblings to the JWs the SDA and LDS have higher numbers than the JWS to sure Gods blessing is with them. Why don't you join them or affiliate with them?

The Bible makes a clear distinction between true and false worship.
Ken4christ and I were discussing the attributes in Jesus said would be use to identify genuine Christains
He accuses Jw group( wrongly )...of course, he should have a better performing group
Read slowly other times pls

Do these alternatives group you mentioned (SDA,LDC) have love among themselves?
Do they go to war ?
Do they involve in politics?
Preach God's kingdom as mankind's only hope?
Do their doctrines conflict with scriptures?

Through with you!

achorladey:



Maximus69: The only two criteria for someone to become a Christian is (1) Humility (2) Willingness to accept correction! Zephaniah 2:2-3


Achorladey: What is the correlation between the scripture Zephaniah 2:2-3 and being a true Christian.

A pure case of using the scripture to fit preconceived ideas and mindset

Maximus69: to expose your ignorance you failed to use the scriptures to back your assertion.

Achorladey: There is Romans there is John shine your eyes. Person that want to expose other persons ignorance but can't see the one present inside of him