VirginDiva:

Men yield to their urges, have careless sex as often as they please. Because of their gender, later get married to a virgin.
Women can be dead broke and because of their beauty, get married to a multi_milloniare.
Don't be naive. Life's a game... The wise eat their cake and everyone else's.

This ideology is same ideology of a jungle mentality which has led to the creation of Criminals, kidnappers, prostitute, playboys, arm robbers, love-vendor, hooligans and many more. They see life like a chessboard, you move, I move, if you make a mistake I see then I gain/win.

But what happens to a society where the de facto is mutual interest and responsibility are clearly stated and a working law abide to track and punish default no matter what! . Everyone pay for their deed and are held responsible for it.
Why would a modern sane man not think in this line?

stanliwise:

This ideology is same ideology of a jungle mentality which has led to the creation of Criminals, kidnappers, prostitute, playboys, arm robbers, love-vendor, hooligans and many more. They see life like a chessboard, you move, I move, if you make a mistake I see then I gain/win.

But what happens to a society where the de facto is mutual interest and responsibility are clearly stated and a working law abide to track and punish default no matter what! . Everyone pay for their deed and are held responsible for it.
Why would a modern sane man not think in this line?

That point of view narrows down to the laws sex and seduction. Politics, crime, romance, that comment had nothing to do with any of them. Do you know Robert Greene? Read often...

VirginDiva:
And rich men prefer spoiling a woman.
Few..not many millionaires. But most settled down with well to do men; bankers, lawyers, politicians.

Indeed.

I will say you are been dishonest here

you mean sugar daddys like spoiling women or either you watch too much movies fantasizing.

Most rich men dont have time their wives, that is the reality, even nowadays most men dont have time for their wives except he is unemployed.

VirginDiva:
That point of view narrows down to the laws sex and seduction. Politics, crime, romance, that comment had nothing to do with any of them. Do you know Robert Greene? Read often...

You wanna teach me seduction?
You are starting to sound like the Nairaland Redpill drug dealers, Tell me you're not one. Because they talk about games and games and games all day.
I have read all pages of 48 laws page by page and his seduction books in the past.
This is what I came about, those laws are just for mind and social hackers, they are not for healthy social lifes, if you need to exploit social settings then you may need to start taking those theories seriously. But there is something I learn, I only use those knowledge to avoid mind hackers. I don't use to knowledge to exploit people. People exploitation are for narcissist not for real men who wants to be productive and bring wine from rocks

VirginDiva:
If you can't afford an iPhone, find a woman who's satisfied with a packet of indomie and two eggs and occational airtime. There are loads of them around!

ona go soon carry gun later.

thebosstrevor1:


i am not even complaining , i am just saying reality, You can't have your cake and eat it

if you want wealthy man you also have to bring something to the table

The worst thing a man can ever do is trying to liftup a poor girl and her family

Yada yada yada.

VirginDiva:
Make money and stop complaining about an expensive woman's taste. Better still, go for women in your financial category.
My honest opinion!

If you are expensive, make your money and spend it anyhow you like. If you ve not made N1000 in your life, you have no right to demand 5K from a guy. Whatever he gives to you is a privilege not a right.

Its a RELATIONship not SPONSORship

stanliwise:
You wanna teach me seduction?
You are starting to sound like the Nairaland Redpill drug dealers, Tell me you're not one. Because they talk about games and games and games all day.
I have read all pages of 48 laws page by page and his seduction books in the past.
This is what I came about, those laws are just for mind and social hackers, they are not for healthy social lifes, if you need to exploit social settings then you may need to start taking those theories seriously. But there is something I learn, I only use those knowledge to avoid mind hackers. I don't use to knowledge to exploit people. People exploitation are for narcissist not for real men who wants to be productive and bring wine from rocks

does it matter?
He made a point about life being fair- one can't eat their cake and have it again. And I contered his veiw. In reality, people do. How many honest relationships have you come across. I merely stated a fact, argue with logic.

thebosstrevor1:


Indeed.

I will say you are been dishonest here

you mean sugar daddys like spoiling women or either you watch too much movies fantasizing.

Most rich men dont have time their wives, that is the reality, even nowadays most men dont have time for their wives except he is unemployed.

let's be realistic, alright? By spoiling, you mean to tell me that rich/well to do men don't give their wives comfort and when they can provide, the luxuries of life? These men don't send their family abroad, ease their wives off household stress, give them the resources to establish lucrative businesses, most even sponsor the education of their relatives. We're being honest here. If you are a broke woman who's exceptionally beautiful or with a vibrant personality, you could most likely end up with a guy who would give you and your family the things you couldn't provide. That's the real world, whether it's fair or not.

femi4:
If you are expensive, make your money and spend it anyhow you like. If you ve not made N1000 in your life, you have no right to demand 5K from a guy. Whatever he gives to you is a privilege not a right.

Its a RELATIONship not SPONSORship

And a man who has sex as often as his libido allows, has no RIGHT to demand a virgin bride...
But still they do, since the beginning of time... You might even be among those deluded lot.
Life isn't fair... Why do you think a man who has impregnated countless women, given them money for abortion and has spent thousands of Naira to cure numerous STDs and infections, feel he deserves a teenager who has never been kissed...
No matter how bizarre, it's still his RIGHT though.
It's fvcked up how people reason...men and women alike.
A woman's hymen is a priviledge not a RIGHT.

VirginDiva:
And a man who has sex as often as his libido allows, has no RIGHT to demand a virgin bride...
But still they do, since the beginning of time... You might even be among those deluded lot.
Life isn't fair... Why do you think a man who has impregnated countless women, given the money for abortion and has spend thousands of Naira to cure numerous STDs and infections, feel he deserves a teenager who has never been kissed...
No matter how bizarre, it's still their right though.
It's fvcked up how people reason...men and women alike.
A woman's hymen is a priviledge not a RIGHT.

Stay on the topic, besides having sex is mutual benefit. You are not doing the guy any favour.

VirginDiva:
This thread has nothing to do with the initial approach. But persistently chasing a woman, whom they KNOW to have high standards which she's ENTITLED to and getting provoked after being rejected which she can FREELY do.

I guess if you hang out around broke people who don't particularly wanna pay for sex, then you will keep being approached by such men.I suggest you relocate to places like Banana Island... for peace of mind.

MrBrownJay1:


I guess if you hang out around broke people who don't particularly wanna pay for sex, then you will keep being approached by such men.I suggest you relocate to places like Banana Island... for peace of mind.

how do you move every woman with that mentality there? Stop side tracking.. If as a guy you decide to approach a lady ANYWHERE and she turns you down, stop whinning and get a lady who wouldn't be a financial burden to you. Why? Because it's her right to turn any man down for whatever reason she chooses, likewise men. We aren't debating whether her values are WRONG or RIGHT. This has to do with a man's response to those values.
Is comprehending so difficult?

femi4:
Stay on the topic, besides having sex is mutual benefit. You are not doing the guy any favour.

frankly, men enjoy sex more... Most women don't have orgasms from intercourse...
I had to compare it with the whole 'virginity' stuff so you would get it...
Your point- as a woman bring something to the table also.
My point- don't be foolish. In reality, people get what they can't offer.
Men can't offer chastity but demand and get it.
Women can't offer financial assistance but demand and get it.
That's life. I'm not saying it's right, but that's how things work.

VirginDiva:
does it matter?
He made a point about life being fair- one can't eat their cake and have it again. And I contered his veiw. In reality, people do. How many honest relationships have you come across. I merely stated a fact, argue with logic.

There is nothing like fact you stated. There are good relationships that went well. Stop demonizing and generalize everything about relationships. There 7billion people in the world. There are good people and bad people also. You are just one of the redpill crew. You think you understand it all. The beginning of your problem.

VirginDiva:
Make money and stop complaining about an expensive woman's taste. Better still, go for women in your financial category.
My honest opinion!

Lazy women how much have you guys make

stanliwise:
There is nothing like fact you stated. There are good relationships that went well. Stop demonizing and generalize everything about relationships. There 7billion people in the world. There are good people and bad people also. You are just one of the redpill crew. You think you understand it all. The beginning of your problem.

there isn't a 100% manipulation free relationship in existance.
Don't reflect your values on others. You really think the majority of people are fair and just? That everyone out there would be completely honest and understanding... To varying extent, people are cruel. The basic law of survival: the strongest (physically and intellectually) make it.
You can choose to have a child's view of the world and believe in people. Jump into the next relationship with your entire heart. Believe that there are good people. Refuse to accept that people change as the tide, they do things to suit them. Being naive is a choice.
I'm not a guy.

VirginDiva:
there isn't a 100% manipulation free relationship in existance.
Don't reflect your values on others. You really think the majority of people are fair and just? That everyone out there would be completely honest and understanding... To varying extent, people are cruel. The basic law of survival: the strongest (physically and intellectually) make it.
You can choose to have a child's view of the world and believe in people. Jump into the next relationship with your entire it. Believe that there are good people. Refuse to accept that people change as the tide, they do things to suit them. Being naive is a choice.
I'm not a guy.

All this words now sound like the seduction books of Mystery, Rollo Tomassi and many more I read back then VirginDiva
You should take your own advice.
We have bad people and we have good people.
The insecurity that everyone is out there to play you is nothing but mere insecurity.
I can’t help you with that

stanliwise:

All this words now sound like the seduction books of Mystery, Rollo Tomassi and many more I read back then VirginDiva
You should take your own advice.
We have bad people and we have good people.
The insecurity that everyone is out there to play you is nothing but mere insecurity.
I can help you with that

every one is a sycophant and hypocrite (to varying degrees). That's why the youths would applaud a fraudulent politician and set a petty thief on fire.
It's isn't mere insecurity. More often than not, it's life or death and security of mental health...
When you get married to miss. Perfect and she turns into dracula within a year, blame yourself. People place their interest first.
Again, being naive is a choice... Trust the actions of others..

VirginDiva:
Make money and stop complaining about an expensive woman's taste. Better still, go for women in your financial category.
My honest opinion!

Go get a job and stop relying on men for living.

Veiniously:

Lazy women how much have you guys make

when you come across a 4page topic, it's common sense to read the entire thread. Do so first before commenting.

Crownstar01:
Go get a job and stop relying on men for living.

VirginDiva:
when you come across a 4page topic, it's common sense to read the entire thread. Do so first before commenting.

Most of you come online to boast but in real life, you are nothing. I only blame desperate guys who follow you like puppies.

VirginDiva:
every one is a sycophant and hypocrite (to varying degrees). That's why the youths would applaud a fraudulent politician and set a petty thief on fire.
It's isn't mere insecurity. More often than not, it's life or death and security of mental health...
When you get married to miss. Perfect and she turns into dracula within a year, blame yourself. People place their interest first.
Again, being naive is a choice... Trust the actions of others..

I am more OG(socially intelligent) than most guys you think. I won’t over blow my trumpet.
You are just intoxicated with the books you have read. And whatever secrets of people manipulation you wanna spell out, then chances are I know them. I have been a sidekick of PUA Ideologies, following their post and blog religiously for years. Until I later developed deep insecurity for people especially women. I saw social settings like a chess board. I was eager to always play games. Until I knew games are just perception we create, it ain’t always necessary.
Let me introduce you to the Purple pill
You can join us on reddit if you choose to. It is a forum for developed minds, we are called the white hackers, we don’t use our social skill to manipulate people. We instead try to create healthy social environment and ofcourse defend against social manipulators like your likes.

stanliwise:
I am more OG(socially intelligent) than most guys you think. I won’t over blow my trumpet.
You are just intoxicated with the books you have read. And whatever secrets of people manipulation you wanna spell out, then chances are I know them. I have been a sidekick of PUA Ideologies, following their post and blog religiously for years. Until I later developed deep insecurity for people especially women. I saw social settings like a chess board. I was eager to always play games. Until I knew games are just perception we create, it ain’t always necessary.
Let me introduce you to the Purple pill
You can join us on reddit if you choose to. It is a forum for developed minds, we are called the white hackers, we don’t use our social skill to manipulate people. We instead try to create healthy social environment and ofcourse defend against social manipulators like your likes.

Exactly. She's a manipulator who trade her body with money.

stanliwise:
I am more OG(socially intelligent) than most guys you think. I won’t over blow my trumpet.
You are just intoxicated with the books you have read. And whatever secrets of people manipulation you wanna spell out, then chances are I know them. I have been a sidekick of PUA Ideologies, following their post and blog religiously for years. Until I later developed deep insecurity for people especially women. I saw social settings like a chess board. I was eager to always play games. Until I knew games are just perception we create, it ain’t always necessary.
Let me introduce you to the Purple pill
You can join us on reddit if you choose to. It is a forum for developed minds, we are called the white hackers, we don’t use our social skill to manipulate people. We instead try to create healthy social environment and ofcourse defend against social manipulators like your likes.

take me somewhere sane first. Not in this country of utmost insanity...

Crownstar01:
Exactly. She's a manipulator who trade her body with money.

My respect

Crownstar01:
Exactly. She's a manipulator who trade her body with money.

should I send you a pic of my hymen??
I manipulate with the PROMISES of sex.
Guys and obsessing over virginity. Pttt

VirginDiva:
should I send you a pic of my hymen??
I manipulate with the PROMISES of sex.
Guys and obsessing over virginity. Pttt

Not me. I have seen it all in terms of pussy. Different shape. Different size.

Looks like you are still in an experimental age and wants to explore more. But by the time you hit late 20s and early 30s, you feel your biological clock ticking. You may be interested in fun sex to win a man over in "the dating phase", but you will be more interested in having babies and making money to support those babies and less about being kinky.

Crownstar01:
Not me. I have seen it all in terms of pussy. Different shape. Different size.

Looks like you are still in an experimental age and wants to explore more. But by the time you hit late 20s and early 30s, you feel your biological clock ticking. You may be interested in fun sex to win a man over in "the dating phase", but you will be more interested in having babies and making money to support those babies and less about being kinky.

if only I were sexually attracted to men... I'm bisexual, prefer women though.
No intention of having kids...

VirginDiva:
if only I were sexually attracted to men... I'm bisexual, prefer women though.
No intention of having kids...

Clap for yourself. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, I do think you need help because bisexuality sucks and is a drawback.

Crownstar01:
Clap for yourself. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, I do think you need help because bisexuality sucks and is a drawback.

Your opinion...and it sucks. It's freedom to be with who ever I want. I love women and that's my sexuality...
Be grateful atleast... I'm not after men and their wallets... But I believe that those women who are have the right.

VirginDiva:
let's be realistic, alright? By spoiling, you mean to tell me that rich/well to do men don't give their wives comfort and when they can provide, the luxuries of life? These men don't send their family abroad, ease their wives off household stress, give them the resources to establish lucrative businesses, most even sponsor the education of their relatives. We're being honest here. If you are a broke woman who's exceptionally beautiful or with a vibrant personality, you could most likely end up with a guy who would give you and your family the things you couldn't provide. That's the real world, whether it's fair or not.

That is what you think...these are fantasies of broke women.

From experience and what i have seen, it is rear seeing a wealthy man from a wealthy home marrying a broke girl from a poor home or average home.

Or you think among the rich and wealthy, there arent beautiful women also competing for the attention of boys from wealthy home.

There is classism when it comes to marrying from the rich, they want the money rotating among themselves that is why, you hardly see them marrying the poor and the average.

For some poor girls, their strategy is to be an actress but at the end of the day, they still dont get that polish educated man from the wealthy class, most of these girls end up with one Alhaji with 3 wives or one local politician.

Anyway anyone can fantasise as they like but reality always teach them a lesson.