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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by divco: 1:51pm On Sep 25, 2020
Oh ok... thanks for the clarification. I haven't got any such email. I guess I'll just have to wait.

Thank you

inphoenix:


It is a mail that UKVI sends to applicants when they believe that the outcome of the application will take more than 15 working days because the application is not straightforward or is somewhat complex.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by divco: 1:53pm On Sep 25, 2020
No please I haven't tried to mail them. Wont mailing them seem like I'm desperate? I'm actually not tho just making me uneasy and dont want to miss any classes. How can they be reached via email tho?


mimilyrics:
Not everyone is being called for interviews. For people whose applications give the ECOs cause for concerns, the ECO will call to clarify whatever information isn't clear.
Have you tried mailing UKVI to know what the holdup is?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 1:53pm On Sep 25, 2020
If you select that you're married, you'll be asked for your spouse's details and this is usually okay if your spouse needs to join or travel with you to the UK. You don't necessarily need to fill your spouse in as a financial dependant if they are not your financial dependant.
It only becomes a problem if you don't list your spouse's details in the spouse section.
ELff:
Please I need to clarify something, while filling my application, I saw where they asked if I had dependant(child, aged parents, etc but no where was husband included, so i filled no). Does this mean hubby would not be allowed to join me?

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 1:55pm On Sep 25, 2020
No, it's not you being desperate, it's just you wanting to know the status of your application.
Contact them using the link below:
https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi-inside-outside-uk
divco:
No please I haven't tried to mail them. Wont mailing them seem like I'm desperate? I'm actually not tho just making me uneasy and dont want to miss any classes. How can they be reached via email tho?


Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by inphoenix: 1:56pm On Sep 25, 2020
divco:
Oh ok... thanks for the clarification. I haven't got any such email. I guess I'll just have to wait.

Thank you


No worries. When did you submit your biometrics?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by ELff: 1:56pm On Sep 25, 2020
TheGuyFromHR:


I think you can still remedy that when you get your visa and the time comes for him to apply.
That dependant aspect on the form is confusing given the conflicting meanings of the word. Someone posted in this form addressing this, I can't remember whom so you can search for the comment, but it was along the lines of your issue.

It is really confusing, I just thought about it now and sharply came online to clarify. Thanks for your input, i appreciate.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by divco: 1:57pm On Sep 25, 2020
Thank you so much. Really appreciate it and God richly bless you


mimilyrics:
No, it's not you being desperate, it'sjust you wanting to know the status of your application.
Contact them using the link below:
https://www.gov.uk/contact-ukvi-inside-outside-uk

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by ELff: 1:58pm On Sep 25, 2020
mimilyrics:
If you select that you're married, you'll be asked for your spouse's details and this is usually okay if your spouse needs to join or travel with you to the UK. You don't necessarily need to fill your spouse in as a financial dependant if they are not your financial dependant.
It only becomes a problem if you don't list your spouse's details in the spouse section.

I listed his details. Whew. Some relief thanks for the clarification.

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Clarine: 1:58pm On Sep 25, 2020
Sorry about this but sister is listed on the form and inlaws too. Even adopted child. Guys let us be very careful while filling this form. I know some relative don’t like to be mentioned on application because of their status. The best thing is to be truthful. It’s well with you sis. If the refusal ground isn’t very serious then get someone who is sound to apply for the administrative review



quote author=Sweetness24
post=94291992]Goodday people,pls i will like the gurus on this platform to help me out on a way forward
I was just refused a tier 4 visa(inclusive of my hubby and 2kids),reason being that i dint declare i have a sibling in the uk(of which i told my school during preCAS interviee that i av a sister.i dint put on d application that i hav a sister,not because i want to lie but because siblings wasnt specified under family members in the uk.so during my visa interview on tuesday i told them i will be quarantinig in manchester in an airbndb apartment(but my school is in sheffield),when askd y i said cos my sis is there and want to quarantine where i knw somone and afterward move to the accomodation i booked in sheffield,i was asked y i dint fill i av a sister told her i dint knw of which i later gav her her name and date of birth.i later got to know my sis used another name and a diff date of birth to wat i told d consular,though she left so many years ago as an illegal immigrant but she hav her papers already.i am really sad,i was truthful in all bt it has cause me a refusal,what should i do pls?[/quote]
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Sommylove5: 1:59pm On Sep 25, 2020
Sweetness24:
Goodday people,pls i will like the gurus on this platform to help me out on a way forward
I was just refused a tier 4 visa(inclusive of my hubby and 2kids),reason being that i dint declare i have a sibling in the uk(of which i told my school during preCAS interviee that i av a sister.i dint put on d application that i hav a sister,not because i want to lie but because siblings wasnt specified under family members in the uk.so during my visa interview on tuesday i told them i will be quarantinig in manchester in an airbndb apartment(but my school is in sheffield),when askd y i said cos my sis is there and want to quarantine where i knw somone and afterward move to the accomodation i booked in sheffield,i was asked y i dint fill i av a sister told her i dint knw of which i later gav her her name and date of birth.i later got to know my sis used another name and a diff date of birth to wat i told d consular,though she left so many years ago as an illegal immigrant but she hav her papers already.i am really sad,i was truthful in all bt it has cause me a refusal,what should i do pls?


So sorry to hear this . Please did you get this via a mail or when you picked up your passport?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by johnchair777: 2:01pm On Sep 25, 2020
Have you tried contacting them?
I'm having same worries and contemplating sending a mail, if that'd help.

https://contact-ukvi.homeoffice.gov.uk/app/international/enq/language/English

There is however an advice about, call centre workers can't give advice about personal circumstances.

What's your take

natstryker:
this wait is exhausting honestly. did my 2nd phone interview over a week and half now and no communication yet, latest time to resume in my school is 2nd october. cant book flight or do anything at all. God abeg o
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Sweetness24: 2:04pm On Sep 25, 2020
Here is the refusal letter
james1004:


Why not simply upload your refusal letter ? That way, you can get proper advice.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mrpudikin: 2:07pm On Sep 25, 2020
mrpudikin:
Hello people, in the case of funds you have coming not just from your parents but also from family members like uncles or cousins. How does one put it during an interview and is adding supporting documents advisable in this case or just the bank statement should do . And what supporting can one add it is needed.

Thanks.

Pls any help here?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Sweetness24: 2:07pm On Sep 25, 2020
Thanks,mail i was told our passport is ready for collection this morning and a refusal mail was sent 2hrs after d first mail[uote author=Sommylove5 post=94294755]


So sorry to hear this . Please did you get this via a mail or when you picked up your passport?[/quote]
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by covidia: 2:09pm On Sep 25, 2020
They sent a refusal mail ?
Sweetness24:
Thanks,mail i was told our passport is ready for collection this morning and a refusal mail was sent 2hrs after d first mail[uote author=Sommylove5 post=94294755]


So sorry to hear this . Please did you get this via a mail or when you picked up your passport?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Doyinh: 2:12pm On Sep 25, 2020
So sorry about this
Sweetness24:
Here is the refusal letter
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by rs172(m): 2:14pm On Sep 25, 2020
mimilyrics:
If you select that you're married, you'll be asked for your spouse's details and this is usually okay if your spouse needs to join or travel with you to the UK. You don't necessarily need to fill your spouse in as a financial dependant if they are not your financial dependant.
It only becomes a problem if you don't list your spouse's details in the spouse section.


Good afternoon, Mimilyrics can I send you a Pm
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Doyinh: 2:15pm On Sep 25, 2020
Please is there anybody that did on 10th, 11th or 14th standard that has received any form of mail or application being transferred should update us o. This wait is killing and there seems to be no progress in Pretoria DMC again unlike earlier on that it was very fast
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Sweetness24: 2:17pm On Sep 25, 2020
Pls how do i go about the administrative review?
inphoenix:


Good. It is not a ground for a ban. You can apply for administrative review or re-apply subsequently
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by omopapa: 2:18pm On Sep 25, 2020
So sorry for your refusal. There are lessons to learn from this going forward, you shouldn’t have quoted your sister’s DOB Cus u might implicate her. This is really a hard nut to crack.

Sweetness24:
Here is the refusal letter
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 2:20pm On Sep 25, 2020
This will be a tough one to overturn though you can always try to appeal to the ECM's discretionary capabilities by conveying how this was just a honest mistake. My reasons (from an ECO point of view) for this are
1. You stated that you chose Manchester so you could be close to family when you had said that you had no family. You knew fully well that you had family in the UK and chose to stay in Manchester because of them. So who are the family members outside your sister that made you choose Manchester since you didn't mention them? This is a discrepancy difficult to overlook.

2. The suspicion that your sister is in the UK illegally is enough for the ECO to think that you are just using the student visa as a way to get to move to the UK by hook or crook. If you had included an explanation that you had a sister in the UK but that you don't know if she's still there because you lost touch many years ago, it might have helped.

Except you have reasons strong enough to tackle the points listed, the admin review might not upturn the refusal. And since you weren't refused under paragraph 320, you can still make an application at a later time but please address the reasons you were refused here on subsequent applications.

Sweetness24:
Here is the refusal letter
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 2:20pm On Sep 25, 2020
Okay.
rs172:



Good afternoon, Mimilyrics can I send you a Pm
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Sweetness24: 2:22pm On Sep 25, 2020
[Thanks for your response,God bless
quote author=justwise post=94294223]

You are not banned but you did not pass Genuineness test during the interview. You can send a letter of reconsideration in that letter state exactly what happened and the confusion that lead to your mistake.

A different ECM will look into your case and make decision, this letter is not about you claiming to be right or trying to defend your decision not to declare your sister in your application. You will be writing to explain why you made the mistake and plead for reconsideration of your application.


[/quote]

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Sommylove5: 2:28pm On Sep 25, 2020
Sweetness24:
Thanks,mail i was told our passport is ready for collection this morning and a refusal mail was sent 2hrs after d first mail[uote author=Sommylove5 post=94294755]


So sorry to hear this . Please did you get this via a mail or when you picked up your passport?


So sorry dear. This is painful. What's this sent by Pretoria or Sheffield ukvi
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Lawrence6(m): 2:29pm On Sep 25, 2020
The guy with the funny question is here again.
Please when they ask us if we have family in the uk,are we to fill there uk addy?any space for that?
Thanks in anticipation.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Nobody: 2:30pm On Sep 25, 2020
chnovpaul:


Same here. Sept 8th Priority...decision mail 11th...nothing till now.

I called UKVI again yesterday. They said to give them till Tuesday next week that I'll get my passport latest by then. If nothing still, I should let them know and they'll escalate it.

Did you use courier services for delivery of your passport?
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by natstryker(m): 2:32pm On Sep 25, 2020
when i saw that they charge for even an email mehn no need. when they want they will send it
johnchair777:
Have you tried contacting them?
I'm having same worries and contemplating sending a mail, if that'd help.

https://contact-ukvi.homeoffice.gov.uk/app/international/enq/language/English

There is however an advice about, call centre workers can't give advice about personal circumstances.

What's your take

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Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by rs172(m): 2:32pm On Sep 25, 2020
mimilyrics:
Okay.



Sent already.
Thanks
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by mimilyrics: 2:40pm On Sep 25, 2020
No except you'll be staying at their address, their names, passport details, status in the UK and relationship to you are usually okay.
Lawrence6:
The guy with the funny question is here again.
Please when they ask us if we have family in the uk,are we to fill there uk addy?any space for that?
Thanks in anticipation.
Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Sweetness24: 2:53pm On Sep 25, 2020
Can i do the administrative review by myself or i'll need a solicitor
Sweetness24:
[Thanks for your response,God bless
quote author=justwise post=94294223]

You are not banned but you did not pass Genuineness test during the interview. You can send a letter of reconsideration in that letter state exactly what happened and the confusion that lead to your mistake.

A different ECM will look into your case and make decision, this letter is not about you claiming to be right or trying to defend your decision not to declare your sister in your application. You will be writing to explain why you made the mistake and plead for reconsideration of your application.


Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part 4 by Sweetness24: 2:56pm On Sep 25, 2020
Thanks for ur response,if i decide not to go for administrative review,can i reapply for january intake,i hope its nt too early?
mimilyrics:
This will be a tough one to overturn though you can always try to appeal to the ECM's discretionary capabilities by conveying how this was just a honest mistake. My reasons (from an ECO point of view) for this are
1. You stated that you chose Manchester so you could be close to family when you had said that you had no family. You knew fully well that you had family in the UK and chose to stay in Manchester because of them. So who are the family members outside your sister that made you choose Manchester since you didn't mention them? This is a discrepancy difficult to overlook.

2. The suspicion that your sister is in the UK illegally is enough for the ECO to think that you are just using the student visa as a way to get to move to the UK by hook or crook. If you had included an explanation that you had a sister in the UK but that you don't know if she's still there because you lost touch many years ago, it might have helped.

Except you have reasons strong enough to tackle the points listed, the admin review might not upturn the refusal. And since you weren't refused under paragraph 320, you can still make an application at a later time but please address the reasons you were refused here on subsequent applications.

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