wordychap:
I am a university worker- ssanu.
When the ippis notion came up, I vehemently supported it and got enrolled; how wrong I was.
From the first month of ippis payment, my salary has almost been halfed. Presently, my allowances are not paid me by ippis and you expect us to support such system?
I stand with ASUU. Scrap IPPIS!

Which allowance is not paid by IPPIS? As a member of SSANU, I am satisfied with IPPIS.

AIlahuAkbar:
I'm in my final year and due to the strike now I'll be 31 when I graduate and thus I won't be qualified for nysc again that's why I'm apoplectic

Sorry bro. And that ASUU chairman will collect his pay and never think of the financial constraints caused by this strike on the Nigerian students. At least that NYSC would have helped u to liquidate urself with cash for ur hustles. I feel ur pain.
pls join and trend #EndASUUstrikeNow.

wordychap:
I am a university worker- ssanu.
When the ippis notion came up, I vehemently supported it and got enrolled; how wrong I was.
From the first month of ippis payment, my salary has almost been halfed. Presently, my allowances are not paid me by ippis and you expect us to support such system?
I stand with ASUU. Scrap IPPIS!

Bro ur incessant strikes is killing the academic future of Nigerian Students. Look at that guy up that will not be going for service now because he's no longer eligible for NYSC due to ur incessant endless strikes. Why must we the students always pay for this often strikes even wen we have other issues in life to battle? Now that man will not graduate on time again.
#EndASUUstrikeNow.

ASUU need to be deleted

I think it's high time ASSU explicitly show the public what each level ought to earn and what they're earning under the IPPIS. Afterwards let them identify the allowances that weren't paid and then show evidence of work done for it.

Taking side can be difficult, if we don't know where the gap is.

school in nigeria is a scam

Puloc:

Are u asking Nugerian students to suffer forever for the sins of the Federal Govt on ASUU?

Are you also asking members of ASUU to suffer for the sins of the federal govt?? Can't you see that the only guilty party is exempted? FG has nothing to lose if you haven't noticed.

9jatriot:
ASUU is the one intimidating students, parents and government with their nonsense strike. I will take them serious the day they are bold enough to go on unpaid strike, not that you don't work and collect salary, that is stealing.

Is ASUU asking for higher pay?
Is ASUU saying no to accountability?

So, what in summary is ASUU's fault in this?

Is it a crime to protest?
Is it a crime to say "this is bad for me..I don't want"?

How is the FG perfectly right?

9jatriot:
LOL @the bolded.
So that we are on the same page, let me paint a scenario for you.
Assuming you own a big company that has branches in 10 states, and each of these states have at least 2 branches in them. You noticed that you cannot be in all those places at the same time. Once in a while you discover that you pay a staff salary twice in various branches. You also discover that the bill the branches are bringing each month for salary is increasing yet you cannot remember employing any extra person since the last time you did recruitment, what would you do in this situation.

I can bet you, you will try to find a system that will not make you run mad. Assuming I come to you with a system that gives a unique number to each staff and I promise you that with this system, the era of paying one staff more than once would be gone, would you not happily embrace it?

Now assuming you tell management to implement it across all the branches, would you not be suspicious if those staff start giving excuses why they cannot use that system and instead come up with their own so called system.
Now, tell me, as the owner of this big business, would you decide to use their own system or be extra motivated to use your own system?

You keep missing the point. ASUU has no problem with fishing out ghost workers or staff earning multiple salaries. Maybe you should tell me, why is ASUU against joining ippis? If all you have to say is already in the post mentioned then I don't think we have anything to discuss anymore.

9jatriot:
Is IPPIS not about transparency?

What about equity and fairness? Are we to throw those out of the window?

9jatriot:
SARS can also argue that it is a minority of their staff who do all the things they have been alleged to do. So that argument is neither here nor there, the fact is it is wide spread.

The teaching Hospitals, military, police all have peculiarities right, whey did they not also go on strike. ASUU is the one blackmailing FG by striking over a simple issue. All these things are simple lines of codes and the whole thing will be captured, not all these grandstanding.

ASUU will get paid during this strike whereas the students benefit nothing at all.

The bolded is the exact reason why people are demonizing ASUU.

I guess the proper thing to you will be to silence any and all dissenting voices: then there would be PEACE

No, because I did not understand it in the context of your message.

sonofthunder:




What about equity and fairness? Are we to throw those out of the window?

9jatriot:
Without trying to sound disrespectful, if they are seeing you as liabilities, perhaps you guys have not being able to justify your budget. If there is no evidence over the years to make your organization relevant through innovative solutions then you really can't blame anyone. Institutes like NIFOR, CRIN among others for example, I am not sure I have felt their impact.

I do not understand your 3 questions though? Are you saying those courses are not relevant? I missed your point there.

The case of the Nigerian government is like an investor who bought 30 buses and employed 30 drivers. He negotiated their salary monthly as N40,000. And he forgot about the business. He did not tell them where he wants them to go, he didn't tell them what he wants from them. He feel that they should know that their job is to drive the buses. This investor pays their salary dutifully every month unfailingly and he has done that for 25 years.

Since the drivers were tasked with nothing, they do whatever they can with no overall objectives.

Now, if you were an auditor to assess this moribund company who will you pass the bulk of the blame to?

The truth of the matter is that you have a short sighted government who believe only in using government to get money and spending those monies as fast as they come in.

Nigerian government, my friend has NO DIRECTION and no long term purpose! This is the beast killing us all

They claim there are peculiar and should be treated specially, at least that is the vibe I am getting. But the guy paying the salary says, how can you say a system that you have not even tried will not work. Every organization is peculiar, from the hospitals, to the millitary to police to MDAs, they are all peculiar, so what is ASUU about being special

sonofthunder:




You keep missing the point. ASUU has no problem with fishing out ghost workers or staff earning multiple salaries. Maybe you should tell me, why is ASUU against joining ippis? If all you have to say is already in the post mentioned then I don't think we have anything to discuss anymore.

Then after 25 years, a new guy shows up and while looking at the books noticed that not only are the drivers not doing anything, they have probably sold the buses.
Now he decides, henceforth, to ensure this does not happen in future. He comes up with a system (IPPIS) and says drivers must register and be fully responsible for the buses. They will also do daily returns via that system (IPPIS) so that the system becomes transparent.

Now tell me, will you now say that you will agree that the drivers go on strike saying they will not register on the system (IPPIS).

The your analogy better be a wrong one because it even presents ASUU's case in a bad light.

shadeyinka:

The case of the Nigerian government is like an investor who bought 30 buses and employed 30 drivers. He negotiated their salary monthly as N40,000. And he forgot about the business. He did not tell them where he wants them to go, he didn't tell them what he wants from them. He feel that they should know that their job is to drive the buses. This investor pays their salary dutifully every month unfailingly and he has done that for 25 years.

Since the drivers were tasked with nothing, they do whatever they can with no overall objectives.

Now, if you were an auditor to assess this moribund company who will you pass the bulk of the blame to?

The truth of the matter is that you have a short sighted government who believe only in using government to get money and spending those monies as fast as they come in.

Nigerian government, my friend has NO DIRECTION and not long term purpose! This is the beast killing us all

AIlahuAkbar:
lecturers go learn work with the kind ego wey they get wey long pass third mainland bridge

Then they should stick earning to peanut, shut the fuckup and go back to work.

MT:


This link will resolve some of your questions:

https://thewhistler.ng/ippis-why-cbn-nnpc-others-are-exempted-from-scheme-fg/

It's still saying the same thing that NNPC, CBN and co GENERATE their own income which clearly is not true. They manage the income generation facility of the government NOT that they generate money for the government.

Do they TRADE with their money?
Do they INVEST their money?
Do they CREATE with their money of effort?

The answer to the above is a big fat NO!

9jatriot:
You clearly do not know how NNPC works? The comparism is baseless

Please with whose money does NNPC generate money?
How do they generate money?

Do they still for oil?
Do they own any oil rig that they Mann?

It's like an a Dangote flour mill accountant saying "I make money for Dangote"!

sonofthunder:



Are you also asking members of ASUU to suffer for the sins of the federal govt?? Can't you see that the only guilty party is exempted? FG has nothing to lose if you haven't noticed.

There must always be another way ASUU to always address their grievances with the FG. Not using and wasting the destinies of the Nigerian Students all d time for wat is not their fault. We are the ones suffering not FG. #EndASUUstrikeNow

Puloc:

There must always be another way ASUU to always address their grievances with the FG. Not using and wasting the destinies of the Nigerian Students all d time for wat is not their fault. We are the ones suffering not FG. #EndASUUstrikeNow

Can you suggest some of those ways you think ASUU can utilise to address their grievances with FG

sonofthunder:



Can you suggest some of those ways you think ASUU can utilise to address their grievances with FG

Oh so a whole ASUU can not come up with new ways to achieve their demands? The are still sticking to methods that have not achieved anything to their demands for decades. I thought those lectures think but no, all they do is sit back and stick to the same old methods even in their academic works. No Nigerian prof has ever invented anything serious or publish vanguard researches. All the know is copy and pastes from other foreigners work and citations. #EndASUUstrikeNow.

pek:
You are right. When hunger dealt with my uncle, he went to Abuja to register. This is a man who doesn't have any dime coming in apart from his salary.

Can you imagine!!!

Hunger suppose don reset im senses.

How can you be doing ASUU strike on empty stomach?

Mba nu.

Puloc:



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Oh so a whole ASUU can not come up with new ways to achieve their demands? The are still sticking to methods that have not achieved anything to their demands for decades. I thought those lectures think but no, all they do is sit back and stick to the same old methods even in their academic works. No Nigerian prof has ever invented anything serious or publish vanguard researches. All the know is copy and pastes from other foreigners work and citations. #EndASUUstrikeNow.
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Same irrelevant trash.

Next0:

Do you know what it means to be a teacher and still be underpaid
If these lecturers are not wellpaid, who do you think will suffer the effect? Government or the students
I think you're the one to look well!

believer I hail thee

otokx:


Which allowance is not paid by IPPIS? As a member of SSANU, I am satisfied with IPPIS.

Hazard allowance, call duty allowance (for university medical centre workers) etc

9jatriot:
Then after 25 years, a new guy shows up and while looking at the books noticed that not only are the drivers not doing anything, they have probably sold the buses.
Now he decides, henceforth, to ensure this does not happen in future. He comes up with a system (IPPIS) and says drivers must register and be fully responsible for the buses. They will also do daily returns via that system (IPPIS) so that the system becomes transparent.

Now tell me, will you now say that you will agree that the drivers go on strike saying they will not register on the system (IPPIS).

The your analogy better be a wrong one because it even presents ASUU's case in a bad light.

You seem to miss the key to everything. The investor need to tell his drivers
1. Either to do local running or inter-state running
2. The route of each driver and bus
3. The target expectations for each route
4. Method of fueling, repairs and disposing of vehicles after a certain age.
etc.

It is after this he can expect anything meaningful.

What does the FG want from the Research institutions?
What does the FG want from the Universities?
It seems they don't have the smallest idea. This is their major failure.

It's amazing that a country as big as Nigeria cannot in 2020 completely manufacture a bicycle and your government doesn't see it as their failure of management.

It's amazing that a country as big as Nigeria cannot in 2020 completely manufacture a pin or needle and your government doesn't see it as their failure of management.

It's amazing that a country as big as Nigeria cannot in 2020 completely clothe itself and your government doesn't see it as their failure of management.

If I lie, please speak up?

This your write up is strange. Even the name research institution means you are supposed to do research. I don't understand you at all.
Every institution or parastatal that has been set up has a mandate. Even if there was no mandate, mission statement or vision statement. You mean if FG set up a hospital, the doctors will not know what the place is for?

CRIN for example is research institute for Cocoa, without being told, is that place not supposed to improve the yield of each seedlings? Is it not supposed to help farmers improve their yield per hectare, plot, acre

If this is the argument you guys have with government, then I would also see your organization as a liability if you do not know what you are supposed to do.

Now to the driver analogy. the 1-4 you wrote are correct. However, if the owner fails to tell you, what was then in your application letter that you wanted to do? If you are really serious, why not ask the employer what exactly your role is? Instead you were doing nothing for 25 years... This nonsense cannot happen in the private sector, never.

shadeyinka:

You seem to miss the key to everything. The investor need to tell his drivers
1. Either to do local running or inter-state running
2. The route of each driver and bus
3. The target expectations for each route
4. Method of fueling, repairs and disposing of vehicles after a certain age.
etc.

It is after this he can expect anything meaningful.

What does the FG want from the Research institutions?
What does the FG want from the Universities?
It seems they don't have the smallest idea. This is their major failure.

It's amazing that a country as big as Nigeria cannot in 2020 completely manufacture a bicycle and your government doesn't see it as their failure of management.

It's amazing that a country as big as Nigeria cannot in 2020 completely manufacture a pin or needle and your government doesn't see it as their failure of management.

It's amazing that a country as big as Nigeria cannot in 2020 completely clothe itself and your government doesn't see it as their failure of management.

If I lie, please speak up?

sonofthunder:





Same irrelevant trash.

I know it's hard for ur block head to think of a new solution to ur stupid irrelevant strikes. Don't go and enrol in IPPIS now, keep waiting for old BUHARI to flinch to ur greedy demands. WEREY

Puloc:



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I know it's hard for ur block head to think of a new solution to ur stupid irrelevant strikes. Don't go and enrol in IPPIS now, keep waiting for old BUHARI to flinch to ur greedy demands. WEREY
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Cc: seun, lalasticlala

People who know nothing about IPPIS will take sides with the govt..this scheme has benefitted none who enrolled in it, even with the recent promotion of last December i was shocked when i saw the first IPPIS Salary alert(twas reduced). It keeps flaunting like Nigeria's electricity or is it the part that you have to wait till the middle of another month before being paid for the previous month.

9jatriot:
This your write up is strange. Even the name research institution means you are supposed to do research. I don't understand you at all.
Every institution or parastatal that has been set up has a mandate. Even if there was no mandate, mission statement or vision statement. You mean if FG set up a hospital, the doctors will not know what the place is for?

CRIN for example is research institute for Cocoa, without being told, is that place not supposed to improve the yield of each seedlings? Is it not supposed to help farmers improve their yield per hectare, plot, acre

If this is the argument you guys have with government, then I would also see your organization as a liability if you do not know what you are supposed to do.

Now to the driver analogy. the 1-4 you wrote are correct. However, if the owner fails to tell you, what was then in your application letter that you wanted to do? If you are really serious, why not ask the employer what exactly your role is? Instead you were doing nothing for 25 years... This nonsense cannot happen in the private sector, never.

Like our government, you still dont get it!
Research for what?

Research is vague if it is not targeted to a purpose. It is not the job of the researcher to determine or set the purpose. It is the employer of the researcher who determines what the direction of a research will be.

A Researcher is just like a LIBRARY!
A Library (Just like a research institution) has capability for many things however, what you get out of a library is a function of your intention.

WHAT IS THE INTENTION OF NIGERIAN GOVERNMENT FOR OUR RESEARCH INSTITUTION?

NOTHING!

sonofthunder:







Cc: seun, lalasticlala

Fvck u. When u quoted me rubbish u didn't call mods. Hypocrite and thunder