freshboi88:


Somebody willingly gave up his glory by emptying himself. And became a servant. Will he not be subject to obedience to God like every other servant of God. Didn't u see he humbled himself there. Y r u guys blind to the truth

You are shooting yourself in the foot. If he wasn't obedient would he have been exalted or given the glory ?? Think with your brain .

If you need OBEDIENCE to get something. It's never yours

Barristter07:


You are shooting yourself in the foot. If he wasn't obedient would he have been exalted or given the glory ?? Think with your brain .

If you need OBEDIENCE to get something. It's never yours

I know ur MUMU brain would never get the point. The truth is there in the Bible. Read and digest Phil 2: 7-8.

It is clearly stated that the gave up his glory by emptying himself. If u r not delusional. You will ask itself what he emptied himself of? And if he was given what he emptied himself of?

freshboi88:


I know ur MUMU brain would never get the point. The truth is there in the Bible. Read and digest Phil 2: 7-8.

It is clearly stated that the gave up his glory by emptying himself. If u r not delusional. You will ask itself what he emptied himself of? And if he was given what he emptied himself of?

Given on what condition ? You no well

freshboi88:


The glory he shared with the Father was not given. If it was he wouldn't have an everlasting reign. He wouldn't be called the everlasting Father.

If Jesus doesn't have children, y did Isaiah call him the Everlasting Father?....den dey see papa way no get children

It's a TITLE. That's why he has no children, he doesn't own any .

MaxInDHouse:
Glory shared doesn't implies that he is the same person with whom he shared glory nah!

On the day Donald Trump was sworn in as the President of America his wife and children will be televised alongside him, that's the glory we are talking about. Whoever dishonour the wife, son or daughter of the President will be dealt with severely as someone who dishonour the Presidency as a whole.
But when it comes to the person in charge of executive arm of government everyone knows that's the duty of the President himself.
Jesus was given the authority to handle the affairs of humans not before he came down but after he has passed all the test to prove that he is qualified to rule {Matthew 28:18} after his 1,000 years reign he must step down for the person who gave him the authority {1Corinthians 15:26-28}
Jesus gained the Everlasting Father title because Adam our first father is dead, he supposed to be the only person who will connect all his descendants to his God and Father but he rebelled and lost the privilege. Jesus stepped in and performed excellently that's why he could be fittingly called LAST ADAM! 1Corinthians 15:45

Everyone knows that Adam was our first Father who brought sin and death upon his children {Romans 5:12} certainly whoever is compared to Adam can't be our God but the one who will lead us to our Grand Father (God)! John 20:17

I am not surprised that your deluded brain is using the government of this world to understand the relationship between the divine.

From your illustration, it clearly shows how wrong u r. God is a Spirit and not Man. So your analysis is shit

MaxInDHouse:
All these is written in the Bible so everyone can read it, what remains now is IDENTIFYING the group of Worshipers today who are also humbly obedient to the same God like God's people always do in ancient times!

Nobody disputes the fact that Jesus became like a servant to teach his followers how to humbly worship God to gain approval.

If he became a servant means he wasn't a servant. It's either you are a master or a servant. There's no middle man.

Barristter07:


It's a TITLE. That's why he has no children, he doesn't own any .

Everlasting Father.......To be called a Father u need to have children.

This is a clear example of Isaiah telling you that Jesus is both a Son and a Father at the same time.

E dey Bible o, no be talk am.

Does the scripture say The Father Isaiah referred to Jesus as is a title?

Barristter07:


Given on what condition ? You no well

It was as a question MuMu. Sense is very far from u.

Where did Isaiah say Everlasting Father he called Jesus is a title....can u show me?


E don hook here

Don't be annoyed with me Sir, i'm one of the followers of a young first century Jewish carpenter who later became a teacher.
He uses lots of visible things around us to teach us what is happening in the spirit realms since we can't see the heavens but we can relate easily with what's happening around us! John 3:12

Consider this comparisons Sir {Matthew 13:31, 33, 44, 45, 47; 20:1} please tell me what's wrong with my teacher who is comparing the Kingdom of heaven with what is applicable here on earth! Matthew 10:25

freshboi88:


I am not surprised that your deluded brain is using the government of this world to understand the relationship between the divine.

From your illustration, it clearly shows how wrong u r. God is a Spirit and not Man. So your analysis is shit

Barristter07:


It's a TITLE. That's why he has no children, he doesn't own any .

Where does Isaiah say it is a Title?....show me where d Bible says it's a Title?....Show me naaahhhh!!!!!

MaxInDHouse:
Don't be annoyed with me Sir, i'm one of the followers of a young first century Jewish carpenter who later became a teacher.
He uses lots of visible things around us to teach us what is happening in the spirit realms since we can't see the heavens but we can relate easily with what's happening around us! John 3:12

Consider this comparisons Sir {Matthew 13:31, 33, 44, 45, 47; 20:1} please tell me what's wrong with my teacher who is comparing the Kingdom of heaven with what is applicable here on earth! Matthew 10:25

U messed up already with ur shitty God- Donald trump comparison. You are not fit for this discussion. That's the sad truth

freshboi88:

If he became a servant means he wasn't a servant. It's either you are a master or a servant. There's no middle man.

Servant means one who serves I think Jesus came to serve as a
Prophet~ Deuteronomy 18:15-18; Act 3:22
Counselor~ Matthew 7:29
God~ John 1:1 compared to Exodus 7:1
Father~ Deuteronomy 6:6-7
Prince~ Matthew 26:52

Back in heaven where Jesus lives his status is lot higher than all these positions because humans who are lesser beings than angels have also served in all these capacitie. So for Jesus to have come down requires a lot of humility on his part!

Thanks Sir, i think my master's style of presentation might make a little sense to you but it seems you don't like it, well i can't perform better than my master Sir. Matthew 10:25
May you have PEACE!

freshboi88:


U messed up already with ur shitty God- Donald trump comparison. You are not fit for this discussion. That's the sad truth

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks Sir, i think my master's style of presentation might make a little sense to you but it seems you don't like it, well i can't perform better than my master Sir. Matthew 10:25
May you have PEACE!

The only thing that makes sense to me right now is to give u cash to buy sense

Thanks Sir, May you have PEACE! Matthew 5:43-48; 1Perer 3:15

freshboi88:

The only thing that makes sense to me right now is to give u cash to buy sense

freshboi88:


Where does Isaiah say it is a Title?....show me where d Bible says it's a Title?....Show me naaahhhh!!!!!

Idiot .

His " NAME " SHALL be called ...

Define a TITLE ?

title
/ˈtʌɪt(ə)l/

noun
1.
the name of a book, composition, or other artistic work.
"the author and title of the book"
Similar:
name
subtitle
subject

2.
a name that describes someone's position or job.
"Leese assumed the title of director general"

verb
give a name to (a book, composition, or other work).
"a report titled The Lost Land"

OXFORD dictionary

You are a very silly human being, hope u can see

MaxInDHouse:

Servant means one who serves I think Jesus came to serve as a
Prophet~ Deuteronomy 18:15-18; Act 3:22
Counselor~ Matthew 7:29
God~ John 1:1 compared to Exodus 7:1
Father~ Deuteronomy 6:6-7
Prince~ Matthew 26:52

Back in heaven where Jesus lives his status is lot higher than all these positions because humans who are lesser beings than angels have also served in all these capacitie. So for Jesus to have come down requires a lot of humility on his part!

And angels are not servant? where did this Bush man come from self.
Phillipians said Jessus took the form of a servant even before he found himself in the fashion of man.
It means Jesus was not a servant but a master before he took the servant position.
Jehovah witness capitalises on what Christ made himself to say he is less than God.
Trinitarians agree Jesus is less than the father but only thatJesus chosed to be so.

Barristter07:


Idiot .

His " NAME " SHALL be called ...

Define a TITLE ?

title
/ˈtʌɪt(ə)l/

noun
1.
the name of a book, composition, or other artistic work.
"the author and title of the book"
Similar:
name
subtitle
subject

2.
a name that describes someone's position or job.
"Leese assumed the title of director general"

verb
give a name to (a book, composition, or other work).
"a report titled The Lost Land"

OXFORD dictionary

You are a very silly human being, hope u can see

This guy nah mumu oh

2.
a name that describes someone's position or job.
"Leese assumed the title of director general"

So Isaiah Gave him a name that describe is position. Which is that of a Father.

Why did he describe Jesus as a Father?....

Isaiah describes Jesus as Father, Barrister says he is not a Father....who should we believe?

When someone took up the position (servant) i think that implies he/she is trying to gain the approval of someone greater {Matthew 17:5 compared to Hebrew 5:7} Jesus himself told us he always do the will of the one who "sent" him {John 4:34, 5:24,30, 6:38,44, 7:16, 8:29} So even though he volunteered himself to put on the form of a man Jesus is emphatic about the one who sent him, therefore he can't be the same person whose approval he wants to gain Sir!

livingchrist:
And angels are not servant? where did this Bush man come from self.
Phillipians said Jessus took the form of a servant even before he found himself in the fashion of man.
It means Jesus was not a servant but a master before he took the servant position.
Jehovah witness capitalises on what Christ made himself to say he is less than God.
Trinitarians agree Jesus is less than the father but only thatJesus chosed to be so.

MaxInDHouse:
When someone took up the position (servant) i think that implies he/she is trying to gain the approval of someone greater {Matthew 17:5 compared to Hebrew 5:7} Jesus himself told us he always do the will of the one who "sent" him {John 4:34, 5:24,30, 6:38,44, 7:16, 8:29} So even though he volunteered himself to put on the form of a man Jesus is emphatic about the one who sent him, therefore he can't be the same person whose approval he wants to gain Sir!

when did Jesus say his father is greater than him, was it not after he became a servant?
Jesus was not a servant of anybody before he took that position, so Jesus was never looking for any approval, he did so willingly because he loved his father. Not to seek for approval.

John 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

Salvation was a plan set forth by the father before the world began Jesus chosed to fulfill the father's plan because he loved the father and he loved mankind.



So if Jesus is not a servant so he cannot be an angel or man that leaves only one option which is God.
Yes Jesus was God Almighty before he took the position of a servant.

Aye!

livingchrist:
when did Jesus say his father is greater than him, was it not after he became a servant?
Jesus was not a servant of anybody before he took that position, so Jesus was never looking for any approval, he did so willingly because he loved his father. Not to seek for approval.

John 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

Salvation was a plan set forth by the father before the world began Jesus chosed to fulfill the father's plan because he loved the father and he loved mankind.



So if Jesus is not a servant so he cannot be an angel or man that leaves only one option which is God.
Yes Jesus was God Almighty before he took the position of a servant.

freshboi88:


This guy nah mumu oh

2.
a name that describes someone's position or job.
"Leese assumed the title of director general"

So Isaiah Gave him a name that describe is position. Which is that of a Father.

Why did he describe Jesus as a Father?....

Isaiah describes Jesus as Father, Barrister says he is not a Father....who should we believe?

Before we proceed : Do you now accept it's a TITLE given by God? Not an inherent quality of his.

Barristter07:


Before we proceed : Do you now accept it's a TITLE given by God? Not an inherent quality of his.

I pride myself for one thing, taking time to respond to fools. That's y I am responding this late.

You just shot yourself in the foot.

So Isaiah Gave him a name that describe his position. Which is that of a Father.

Scripturally Jesus is a Father, going by his position which Isaiah describes. And father's have children.

Deal with that!!

freshboi88:


I pride myself for one thing, taking time to respond to fools. That's y I am responding this late.

You just shot yourself in the foot.

So Isaiah Gave him a name that describe his position. Which is that of a Father.

Scripturally Jesus is a Father, going by his position which Isaiah describes. And father's have children.

Deal with that!!

Show me where Jesus said he have children ?

Barristter07:


Romans 8:29

" Because those whom ( limited ) he gave his first recognition he also foredained to be (future) patterned after the image of his son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers , moreover those whom he foredained are the ones he called;and the ones he called are the ones he also declared righteous . Finally those whom he declared righteous are the ones he also glorified "

So all mankind is Righteous ?? All mankind is " those whom" ??

Is this what you are reduced to ?

Hear the oponu speaking ignorantly.

Gen says "let US create man in OUR image!

The US & OUR(plural) in that verse have that singular IMAGE.

The funny thing is that your deluded mind believes that Jesus is the one God was talking to in that verse.

Emusan:


Hear the oponu speaking ignorantly.

Gen says "let US create man in OUR image!

The US & OUR(plural) in that verse have that singular IMAGE.

The funny thing is that your deluded mind believes that Jesus is the one God was talking to in that verse.

Address that Romans 8:29 now, why u dey fear ?

Romans 8:29

" Because those whom ( limited ) he gave his first recognition he also foredained to be (future) patterned after the image of his son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers , moreover those whom he foredained are the ones he called;and the ones he called are the ones he also declared righteous . Finally those whom he declared righteous are the ones he also glorified "

So all mankind is Righteous ?? All mankind is " those whom" ??

Is this what you are reduced to ?

Barristter07:
Show me where Jesus said he have has children ?

Oponu, no wonder you can't construct simple tenses.

All things whatsoever the Father hath are mine:

What the Father has are mine, AND MINE are thine!

The scripture also said, ALL THINGS was created for Him (Jesus)

Only a lying liar like his father the Devil will see these and still claim Jesus has no children.

Barristter07:


Address that Romans 8:29 now, why u dey fear ?

Romans 8:29

" Because those whom ( limited ) he gave his first recognition he also foredained to be (future) patterned after the image of his son, so that he might be FIRSTBORN among many brothers , moreover those whom he foredained are the ones he called;and the ones he called are the ones he also declared righteous . Finally those whom he declared righteous are the ones he also glorified "

So all mankind is Righteous ?? All mankind is " those whom" ??

Is this what you are reduced to ?

Hear the oponu speaking ignorantly.

Gen says "let US create man in OUR image!

The US & OUR(plural) in that verse have that singular IMAGE.

The funny thing is that your deluded mind believes that Jesus is the one God was talking to in that verse.

Emusan:


Hear the oponu speaking ignorantly.

Gen says "let US create man in OUR image!

The US & OUR(plural) in that verse have that singular IMAGE.

The funny thing is that your deluded mind believes that Jesus is the one God was talking to in that verse.

Won ti get Bobo Yi

Barristter07:


Won ti get Bobo Yi

Says the lying liar JWs who first claimed Jesus has no image of His own but later shot himself on the leg by presenting a scripture where Jesus said to have image.

Emusan:


Says the lying liar JWs who first claimed Jesus has no image of His own but later shot himself on the leg by presenting a scripture where Jesus said to have image.

A scripture that shows mankind is not in Jesus image. Debunking your lie. This is why you can't explain what it's saying without ruining yourself. Mankind and Jesus himself exist in the image of Someone else.