Preciousgirl:



Daniel 2:20-21

[20]Daniel answered and said: “Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, For wisdom and might are His.

[21]And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises up kings; He gives wisdom to the wise And knowledge to those who have understanding.

Quoting is one thing but Understanding is another.
God is not responsible for the political conquest in this world.
But, he do remove opposers that tends to interfere with his purpose.
Just as he did with Pharaoh, Nebuchadnezzar which are God's people for the fulfilment of his purpose for Messiah which is to overthrow the kingdom of the ruler of this world, 'Satan'

Revelation 13:2
Now the wild beast(Satan ) that I saw was like a leopard, but its feet were like those of a bear, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And the dragon gave to the beast its power and its throne and great authority.
He his charge of the political affairs of this world. He gives this seat and authority to his loyalists.
God is only tolerating his rulership for a limited time.
At the appointed time.
Through Jesus , He will cast out the ruler of this world.

Revelation 11:15
The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.”
in that revelation.
John foresaw thst, at that appointed time.
The kingdom of the world (Under the 'Evil one' rulership) will become Christ.
And He Will rule as king forever

And some fools think Satan does these things instead

I pity JWs. They worship satan

Your tantrums again

Janosky who is coming soon according to scripture. E run as fast as e leg fit carry am.

Janosky who did d Bible say is coming soon ooooo? Ansa d the question

My people of nairaland shey u can d inconsistencies in the JW doctrine. They are false teachers.

Rev 22:12-13 has exposed their lying asses.

When light comes darkness disappears

freshboi88:
Janosky who is coming soon according to scripture. E run as fast as e leg fit carry am.
Janosky who did d Bible say is coming soon ooooo? Ansa d the question
My people of nairaland shey u can d inconsistencies in the JW doctrine. They are false teachers.
Rev 22:12-13 has exposed their lying asses.
When light comes darkness disappears

You forgot that it was an angelic representative that was relating directly with John? Revelation 1:1, 22:8
Is the same angel the one speaking in Revelation 22:12-15 or is it Jehovah God or Jesus Christ? Those verses are direct words from Jehovah.
Jesus Christ only began to speak from verse 16.

After all Isaiah 26:21 spoke of Jehovah as “coming” to render judgment against Babylon yet Isaiah 45:1 said that it was Cyrus whom Jehovah would send against Babylon. So who actually came and subdued Babylon, Jehovah or Cyrus whom he chose to carry out the work?

DappaD:


You forgot that it was an angelic representative that was relating directly with John? Revelation 1:1, 22:8
Is the same angel the one speaking in Revelation 22:12-15 or is it Jehovah God or Jesus Christ? Those verses are direct words from Jehovah.
Jesus Christ only began to speak from verse 16.

After all Isaiah 26:21 spoke of Jehovah as “coming” to render judgment against Babylon yet Isaiah 45:1 said that it was Cyrus whom Jehovah would send against Babylon. So who actually came and subdued Babylon, Jehovah or Cyrus whom he chose to carry out the work?

Keep quiet and ansa the question I did not forget anything. U can twist scripture to suit your evil agenda. Even the devil can twist scripture as we see in the temptation of Jesus.


But your reality check is to provide ansa to this question.

Who is coming soon

JW who is coming soon. See all of them avoiding the question like say na covid19.

Is it Jehovah that is coming soon or Jesus or the Angel.

freshboi88:


Keep quiet and ansa the question I did not forget anything. U can twist scripture to suit your evil agenda. Even the devil can twist scripture as we see in the temptation of Jesus.
But your reality check is to provide ansa to this question.
Who is coming soon

That's just the usual “scripture-to-inteprete-scripture” technique.

Again according to Isaiah 26:21 and Isaiah 45:1 who came against Babylon, Jehovah or Cyrus?

When you're discussing with someone on faceless social media, you need to know that the other person may have something else to do apart from attending to you. What we are ordered to do is search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel meaning those who feels like LEARNING from us as they can see how zealous and industrious we are in the preaching and teaching work not those who want to argue in favor of their religion.
So don't think we have to sit down all day attending to you when there are many interested persons who are eagerly anticipating our visit in their homes or studying with them online, if you see any JW attending to your arguments 24/7, it simply means such a brother don't have enough Bible students in his schedule!

I personally began ignoring your post when i noticed how bitter and abusive you often become each time i calmly address your post, i detests bitter arguments all i want to do is share what i know with someone, if it goes well fine and if not it's a free world!

As for your quest on Rev 22:12-13 the verse is about Jesus (Michael), he was the only person with God in the BEGINNING {John 1:2 compared to Proverbs 8:22} and when all these is resolved he certainly will be there to see how death is conquered in the END! {Colossians 1:18} So when DEATH started to cause fear in the minds of Adam's descendants Michael (Jesus) was there and DEATH was conquered by Michael (Jesus) so that faithful and obedient ones no more fear death in the end! John 11:25 compared to Revelation 12:11

That's why Jesus (Michael) is the Alfa and Omega but JEHOVAH is the Almighty Sir who has no beginning nor end!

May you have PEACE!

freshboi88:
Janosky who is coming soon according to scripture. E run as fast as e leg fit carry am.

Janosky who did d Bible say is coming soon ooooo? Ansa d the question

My people of nairaland shey u can d inconsistencies in the JW doctrine. They are false teachers.

Rev 22:12-13 has exposed their lying asses.

When light comes darkness disappears

MaxInDHouse:
When you're discussing with someone on faceless social media, you need to know that the other person may have something else to do apart from attending to you. What we are ordered to do is search for the lost sheep of the house of Israel meaning those who feels like LEARNING from us as they can see how zealous and industrious we are in the preaching and teaching work not those who want to argue in favor of their religion.
So don't think we have to sit down all day attending to you when there are many interested persons who are eagerly anticipating our visit in their homes or studying with them online, if you see any JW attending to your arguments 24/7, it simply means such a brother don't have enough Bible students in his schedule!

I personally began ignoring your post when i noticed how bitter and abusive you often become each time i calmly address your post, i detests bitter arguments all i want to do is share what i know with someone, if it goes well fine and if not it's a free world!

As for your quest on Rev 22:12-13 the verse is about Jesus (Michael), he was the only person with God in the BEGINNING {John 1:2 compared to Proverbs 8:22} and when all these is resolved he certainly will be there to see how death is conquered in the END! {Colossians 1:18} So when DEATH started to cause fear in the minds of Adam's descendants Michael (Jesus) was there and DEATH was conquered by Michael (Jesus) so that faithful and obedient ones no more fear death in the end! John 11:25 compared to Revelation 12:11

That's why Jesus (Michael) is the Alfa and Omega but JEHOVAH is the Almighty Sir who has no beginning nor end!

May you have PEACE!

Ode!!!!.....Sense u don't have. Firstly it's Alpha not Alfa

If you don't know Alpha and Omega is the first and last letter of the Greek alphabet respectively. Just like A and Z. Which connotes to being beginning and end.

Now u say Jehovah the Almighty doesn't have beginning and end like Jesus. So if Jesus is Alpha and Omega, then Jesus is Almighty.

New International Version
Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

So from this verse we can see that Alpha and Omega is the Almighty.

You see why i've been ignoring your post?

Instead of going straight to what you know you go about insulting someone sharing what he knows with you, yet you'll say you're preaching to them!

Well the Alpha and Omega in Revelation chapter 1:8 is talking about the one whose spirit is upon Jesus {Luke 4:18 compared to Isaiah 61:1} we all know that the Almighty God doesn't have a beginning nor end so it's his spirit that was bestowed upon Michael (Jesus) who was the beginning of God's word! Colossians 1:15-16

May you have PEACE!

freshboi88:



Ode!!!!.....Sense u don't have. Firstly it's Alpha not Alfa

If you don't know Alpha and Omega is the first and last letter of the Greek alphabet respectively. Just like A and Z. Which connotes to being beginning and end.

Now u say Jehovah the Almighty doesn't have beginning and end like Jesus. So if Jesus is Alpha and Omega, then Jesus is Almighty.

New International Version
Rev 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

So from this verse we can see that Alpha and Omega is the Almighty.

Jesus Christ is Lord

Agreed!
That's why he is in control of a global family of peace loving worshipers numbering over 8.7 m people from different races all over the earth worshipping with one line of thought! Ephesians 4:5 compared to John 17:20-23

A Lord supposed to be in control of a visible assembly of armies having the same goal not divided and confused worshipers contradicting themselves yet claiming one LORD!

Preciousgirl:
Jesus Christ is Lord

MaxInDHouse:
Agreed!
That's why he is in control of a global family of peace loving worshipers numbering over 8.7 m people from different races all over the earth worshipping with one line of thought! Ephesians 4:5 compared to John 17:20-23

A Lord supposed to be in control of a visible assembly of armies having the same goal not divided and confused worshipers contradicting themselves yet claiming one LORD!

Isaiah 9:6

[6]For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, [b]Everlasting Father, [/b]Prince of Peace.

100% accurate what remains is the understanding!

Preciousgirl:

Isaiah 9:6
[6]For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, [b]Everlasting Father, [/b]Prince of Peace.

MaxInDHouse:
You see why i've been ignoring your post?

Instead of going straight to what you know you go about insulting someone sharing what he knows with you, yet you'll say you're preaching to them!

Well the Alpha and Omega in Revelation chapter 1:8 is talking about the one whose spirit is upon Jesus {Luke 4:18 compared to Isaiah 61:1} we all know that the Almighty God doesn't have a beginning nor end so it's his spirit that was bestowed upon Michael (Jesus) who was the beginning of God's word! Colossians 1:15-16

May you have PEACE!

What d hell did u write up there?..... Jesus, did u write all that crap. It's just rubbish, absolute bullcrap

Rev 1:8 says the Alpha and Omega is the Almighty.

But u say the Alpha and Omega is not the Almighty.

Can u see your lies

Rev 1:8 is clear, it says the Alpha and the Omega is the Almighty.

Jesus is coming in the spirit of JEHOVAH. Isaiah 61:1 Luke 4:18-19
So you can't understand {Daniel 12:10} but if you think you do then present the group of people practicing what the book says! Revelations 7:14

freshboi88:


What d hell did u write up there?..... Jesus, did u write all that crap. It's just rubbish, absolute bullcrap

Rev 1:8 says the Alpha and Omega is the Almighty.

But u say the Alpha and Omega is not the Almighty.

Can u see your lies

Rev 1:8 is clear, it says the Alpha and the Omega is the Almighty.

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is coming in the spirit of JEHOVAH. Isaiah 61:1 Luke 4:18-19
So you can't understand {Daniel 12:10} but if you think you do then present the group of people practicing what the book says! Revelations 7:14

So if Jesus is coming in Jehovah's Spirit then Jesus is Almighty.

Well let's see what becomes of those claiming the highlighted!

Meanwhile i'm with those having the opinion that Jesus is Michael the archangel!

May you have PEACE!

freshboi88:

So if Jesus is coming in Jehovah's Spirit then Jesus is Almighty.

MaxInDHouse:


That's why Jesus (Michael) is the Alfa and Omega but JEHOVAH is the Almighty Sir who has no beginning nor end!

false jw mad max

if you look in the old testament you will see that Yahweh is the first and the last.
but revelation's first and last/Alpha and Omega in greek, which is being discussed, is the Lord Jesus Christ

the Lord Jesus Christ is first and last
the LORD Yahweh is first and last


Rev_2:8  And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Isa 48:12  Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.


which is just a couple more of many verses showing that God and the word is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

not two god's, "a almighty god and a mighty god" as you polytheist false jw's preach

Almighty and Mighty are two words/names/titles that are used for the one true God

Janosky:


This pikin spoonfed on Pastorpreneurs GIBBERISH is ashamed to highlight
"To the glory of God the Father" (2:9-11 NKJV).

God Almighty the Father "exalted" who?

Continue typing your Pastorpreneurs GIBBERISH

Rev 22.12-13. Jesus say he is coming soon and he is the Almighty.

Who is coming soon Janosky. Ur friend agree say Jesus nah Alpha and Omega.

So Janosky who is coming soon nah!!!....y u no fit ansa this question

MaxInDHouse:
Eeyaaa!

Even on the most popular holiday of the year this one is still talking about work!

Perhaps you work as a security, please today is globally known as Christmas day, nobody as in NOBODY not even we JWs that abhor Christmas goes to work today.

So go get yourself a better job that will allow you rest when others are celebrating during festive periods. All work and no play makes a Jack dull boy!

The man ran away after I pinned him on his lies

livingchrist:
Yes the devil is the ruler of the world, I m surprised that many say the devil has stop being in control ever since Jesus died, no he hasn't but ever since the death and resurrection of Jesus, the devils days are numbered.
While Jesus is the sovereign Lord of lords and king of kings all things has not be made subject to him, understand that the devil has lost his control legally but he is still the God of this world.
Christ is the head of all principalities and powers for the church, what that mean is that Christ has the final say over the world affairs, he controls it for the interest of the church but he is not the ruler of this world. In order words the ruler of this world which is the devil is subject to Jesus Christ.

I think I misunderstand the meaning of ruler. A ruler cannot be subject.

It's either u r a ruler or a subject

Mrceragem:


Do you know the saying that you cannot give what you do not have?

Matthew 4: 8 Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain and showed Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and their glory

Matthew 4:98 . 9  And he said to him: “All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me

Satan is a deciever he owns nothing..... He didn't create

Janosky:

Gbagam, Gbam !!!!

You are a mini . Isn't Satan the father of lies again?

Isn't he a deceiver again?...

Satan owns nothing

livingchrist:
Do you read the bible at all? Who says God is not on total control? He ordained all things to be the way, the devil is the ruler of this world because God allowed him.
See the devil is the ruler of this world does not mean he has absolute control because God can override him anytime he wants.

If God can override him when he wants then God is the ruler of the world

DappaD:


You forgot that it was an angelic representative that was relating directly with John? Revelation 1:1, 22:8
Is the same angel the one speaking in Revelation 22:12-15 or is it Jehovah God or Jesus Christ? Those verses are direct words from Jehovah.
Jesus Christ only began to speak from verse 16.

After all Isaiah 26:21 spoke of Jehovah as “coming” to render judgment against Babylon yet Isaiah 45:1 said that it was Cyrus whom Jehovah would send against Babylon. So who actually came and subdued Babylon, Jehovah or Cyrus whom he chose to carry out the work?

Bros who is coming soon u dey speak grammar. Y don't u ansa d question first. Then we move from there.

U can't ansa the question because it negates all you believe in. C how Una dey deceive unasef. It just shows how brain washed u r

You dey mind that one?
99.9% is celebrating others are enjoying the holidays at home he is talking about work!
That's life for you jare!

freshboi88:

The man ran away after I pinned him on his lies

freshboi88:


Bros who is coming soon u dey speak grammar. Y don't u ansa d question first. Then we move from there.
U can't ansa the question because it negates all you believe in. C how Una dey deceive unasef. It just shows how brain washed u r

I've told you times without number that you must consider how other scriptures define something similar so that the understanding can become clearer.

For instance, @Exodus 3:8, Jehovah said:
“I will go down and rescue Israel from Egypt”

But after God said these words, the record show that Jehovah sent his angelic representative and Moses to carry out this task. Exodus 3:10, 14:19, 23:20

Jehovah even told Moses that they needed to listen to the voice of that angel because his name and spirit was upon him! Exodus 23:22

What does this prove? It proves that Jesus when he was on earth, never said he was God but that he came in the name of his Father. Matthew 23:39, Psalm 118:26
And that Jehovah's holy spirit was upon him. Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18

So whenever you see the words: “I am coming”—just know that those words originate from Jehovah(Revelation 22:12-13) but it's Jesus whom he sends to basically act on those orders that Jesus receives from his Father and God, Jehovah since according to him he cannot do a single thing on his own and he needs a go-ahead before he can do anything. Matthew 28:18, John 8:28, Revelation 19:11-15

DappaD:


I've told you times without number that you must consider how other scriptures define something similar so that the understanding can become clearer.

For instance, @Exodus 3:8, Jehovah said:
“I will go down and rescue Israel from Egypt”

But after God said these words, the record show that Jehovah sent his angelic representative and Moses to carry out this task. Exodus 3:10, 14:19, 23:20

Jehovah even told Moses that they needed to listen to the voice of that angel because his name and spirit was upon him! Exodus 23:22

What does this prove? It proves that Jesus when he was on earth, never said he was God but that he came in the name of his Father. Matthew 23:39, Psalm 118:26
And that Jehovah's holy spirit was upon him. Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18

So whenever you see the words: “I am coming”—just know that those words originate from Jehovah(Revelation 22:12-13) but it's Jesus whom he sends to basically act on those orders that Jesus receives from his Father and God, Jehovah since according to him he cannot do a single thing on his own and he needs a go-ahead before he can do anything. Matthew 28:18, John 8:28, Revelation 19:11-15

So in all of this sham u have written, who is coming?.......Simple question u write text book.

Do u c what JW has done to your brain. Simple question.

Y r u explaining before u ansa question. It only shows u want to say rubbish.

Who is coming soon ?

MaxInDHouse:
You dey mind that one?
99.9% is celebrating others are enjoying the holidays at home he is talking about work!
That's life for you jare!

Mr Jehovah is not first n last cos he has no beginning. U still have mouth to talk.

Isaiah 44:6“This is what the Lord says—

Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:

I am the first and I am the last;

apart from me there is no God

Go hide urself when grown ups are talking

Na wah o!
So you're still on this matter?
My friend you don't know what you're into but i'm a noble man with heart full of appreciation for God's work. That's why i've been liberal with you since.
But if truly you have the liver to chat on this issue let's make it a debate between just two of us, i promise not to insult, abuse nor curse you, but you're free to express yourself in any way after all it's by the fruit not how lousy.
Are you ready to take up the challenge?

freshboi88:


Mr Jehovah is not first n last cos he has no beginning. U still have mouth to talk.

Isaiah 44:6“This is what the Lord says—

Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:

I am the first and I am the last;

apart from me there is no God

Go hide urself when grown ups are talking

MaxInDHouse:
That's why Jesus (Michael) is the Alfa and Omega but JEHOVAH is the Almighty Sir who has no beginning nor end!

May you have PEACE!

How come you agreed that Jesus is Alpha and Omega but your brothers seem to disagree?

But Jehovah is also Alpha and Omega!

And the meaning of Alpha and Omega is "THE BEGINNING AND THE END"

Truly you people can twist anything just to suit your demonic doctrines.

DappaD:
I've told you times without number that you must consider how other scriptures define something similar so that the understanding can become clearer.

Normal way of lying liar JWs!

Do you also consider how others scriptures define something similar?

Hypocrite!!!

For instance, @Exodus 3:8, Jehovah said:
“I will go down and rescue Israel from Egypt”

But after God said these words, the record show that Jehovah sent his angelic representative and Moses to carry out this task. Exodus 3:10, 14:19, 23:20

Jehovah even told Moses that they needed to listen to the voice of that angel because his name and spirit was upon him! Exodus 23:22

What does this prove? It proves that Jesus when he was on earth, never said he was God but that he came in the name of his Father. Matthew 23:39, Psalm 118:26
And that Jehovah's holy spirit was upon him. Isaiah 61:1, Luke 4:18

So whenever you see the words: “I am coming”—just know that those words originate from Jehovah(Revelation 22:12-13) but it's Jesus whom he sends to basically act on those orders that Jesus receives from his Father and God, Jehovah since according to him he cannot do a single thing on his own and he needs a go-ahead before he can do anything. Matthew 28:18, John 8:28, Revelation 19:11-15

This is direct word of Jesus to John in Revelation 1

10 On the Lord’s day the Spirit took control of me, and behind me I heard a loud voice that sounded like a trumpet. 11 The voice said, “Write in a book what you see. Then send it to the seven churches in Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, and Laodicea.”

12 When I turned to see who was speaking to me, I saw seven gold lampstands. 13 There with the lampstands was someone who seemed to be the Son of Man. He was wearing a robe that reached down to his feet, and a gold cloth was wrapped around his chest. 14 His head and his hair were white as wool or snow, and his eyes looked like flames of fire. 15 His feet were glowing like bronze being heated in a furnace, and his voice sounded like the roar of a waterfall. 16 He held seven stars in his right hand, and a sharp double-edged sword was coming from his mouth. His face was shining as bright as the sun at noon.

17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet like a dead person. But he put his right hand on me and said: Don’t be afraid! I am the first, the last,18 and the living one. I died, but now I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys to death and the world of the dead.[/b] Rev 1:10-18 CEV

And if you actually follow your own advice above, then you'd have seen that Jesus here is making affirmative claim that only God can utter.

1. The first and the last (which is the meaning of Alpha and Omega)

2. The Living One - Only God is the living One.