haddeylium:


Jehovah made Moses a God (Ex 7:1)
But, only Jehovah is referred to as the 'Only true God'(John 17:3)
Is Moses a False God?

The false God is obviously a notion of your own creation. But Yea it's a brilliant way of thinking.
And Jesus did not make Moses a God in Ex7.1 he made him like God big difference.

Tcwork:

I made no claim I only pointed you to the scriptures. Is Jesus Christ a false god. He is the true God. Jesus Christ created the world and everything in it doesn't that qualify him to be the true God?

According to your Bible, John 17:3 who was sent?
Was the true God sent ?
Who sent the true God?

Tcwork:

So Jesus is a false God? Please what do you mean when you say True God?
Reading your scriptures and asking questions not just accepting what you have been taught could go a long way

John 10:34-36 & John 20:17, is Jesus a god ?

The true God is the Father of all, Ephesians 4:6.
"The one to whom every family in heaven and earth owes their name", Ephesians 3:14-15.
Bros, is that Jesus?

Hi Janosky, you didn't reply my last mail!

Janosky:

According to your Bible, John 17:3 who was sent?
Was the true God sent ?
Who sent the true God?

MaxInDHouse:
Hi Janosky, you didn't reply my last mail!

Good evening, Brother Max....

I will check my email and respond ASAP..
Thank you Sir.

Tcwork:

The false God is obviously a notion of your own creation. But Yea it's a brilliant way of thinking.
And Jesus did not make Moses a God in Ex7.1 he made him like God big difference.

Exodus 7:1(ASV)
And Jehovah said unto Moses, See, I have made thee as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Seems you're using KJV currently.
Anywhere you see LORD (capital letters), it was substituted for JEHOVAH.
So, did Jehovah make Moses a false God?

haddeylium:


Exodus 7:1(ASV)
And Jehovah said unto Moses, See, I have made thee as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Seems you're using KJV currently.
Anywhere you see LORD (capital letters), it was substituted for JEHOVAH.
So, did Jehovah make Moses a false God?

Even in the version you quoted, Moses was made as God to pharaoh he was not made a God. But what's your point with this Moses god theory. And I read from the NKJV but funny many of you guys on this thread are not comfortable with kjv.

Janosky:

According to your Bible, John 17:3 who was sent?
Was the true God sent ?
Who sent the true God?

Your point is that Jesus Christ is a false God?
You seem not to like to state your point clearly

Tcwork:

Even in the version you quoted, Moses was made as God to pharaoh he was not made a God. But what's your point with this Moses god theory

compare that part to your KJV
So, Was Moses made as false God?

Janosky:


John 10:34-36 & John 20:17, is Jesus a god ?

The true God is the Father of all, Ephesians 4:6.
"The one to whom every family in heaven and earth owes their name", Ephesians 3:14-15.
Bros, is that Jesus?

Does this make Jesus a false God?
Don't forget that all that the father has, he gave to his son.

haddeylium:

compare that part to your KJV
So, Was Moses made as false God?

Oga don't call it my kjv. I have no version . I did not write any. But I am still not getting your point. Are you calling Moses a god?

Tcwork:

Your point is that Jesus Christ is a false God?
You seem not to like to state your point clearly

The term "false God" is of your own creation.
Exodus 12:12, 1 Corinthians 8:5, Jehovah recognize there are gods (whether you capitalize it or not, Theo's is theo's, Elohim is elohim.
There is no upper case /Lower case dichotomy in greek or Hebrew.).
There is only one true God. He is not Jesus Christ.
John 17:3, Jesus said so.

Tcwork:

Does this make Jesus a false God?
Don't forget that all that the father has, he gave to his son.

Did Jehovah receive power from whom?
Jehovah received authority from whom?

Janosky:


Did Jehovah receive power from whom?
Jehovah received authority from whom?

I need to understand your point sir are you saying Jesus Christ is a true God or a false god?

Janosky:

The term "false God" is of your own creation.
Exodus 12:12, 1 Corinthians 8:5, Jehovah recognize there are gods (whether you capitalize it or not, Theo's is theo's, Elohim is elohim.
There is no upper case /Lower case dichotomy in greek or Hebrew.).
There is only one true God. He is not Jesus Christ.
John 17:3, Jesus said so.

You pointed me to John 17.3 telling me that there is just one true god. Now I asked you if Jesus Christ is a true God or a false God or maybe somewhere in the middle. Please educatel us

Janosky:


Did Jehovah receive power from whom?
Jehovah received authority from whom?

Isaiah 43.11
I—I am Jehovah,+ and besides me there is no savior.
Is Jesus Christ not the Savior?
John 17.3 Says there is one true God. Isaiah says one savior.
What does that tell you about Jesus Christ

Tcwork:

Oga don't call it my kjv. I have no version . I did not write any. But I am still not getting your point. Are you calling Moses a god?

Jehovah said he made Pharaoh a God (Ex 7:1).
Also, He also served as a God (Ex 4:16).

Begs the question; Was Moses made a false God or Did he serve as false God?

Tcwork:

You pointed me to John 17.3 telling me that there is just one true god. Now I asked you if Jesus Christ is a true God or a false God or maybe somewhere in the middle. Please educatel us

Bros, you agreed Jesus Christ has a Father.
John 17:1-3. The Father is the true God, the Father is the Most High God..

Psalms 83:18 Jehovah is the Most High God.
Jesus Christ is NOT Jehovah.

Janosky:


Bros, you agreed Jesus Christ has a Father.
John 17:1-3. The Father is the true God, the Father is the Most High God..

Psalms 83:18 Jehovah is the Most High God.
Jesus Christ is NOT Jehovah.

Jesus having a father does not mean he name is not Jehovah. Pls explain your logic here

Tcwork:

Isaiah 43.11
I—I am Jehovah,+ and besides me there is no savior.
Is Jesus Christ not the Savior?
John 17.3 Says there is one true God. Isaiah says one savior.
What does that tell you about Jesus Christ

John 17:3 and John 3:16... Jesus was sent.. .
Jehovah the Saviour of Israel,Isaiah 43:11 made his son a saviour.
Jehovah made Othniel a saviour.
Bros, is Othniel Jehovah?

haddeylium:


Jehovah said he made Pharaoh a God (Ex 7:1).
Also, He also served as a God (Ex 4:16).

Begs the question; Was Moses made a false God or Did he serve as false God?

Moses was not made a God, he was made as a god.

Tcwork:

Jesus having a father does not mean he name is not Jehovah. Pls explain your logic here

Is Jesus "Most High" ?

Janosky:

John 17:3 and John 3:16... Jesus was sent.. .
Jehovah the Saviour of Israel,Isaiah 43:11 made his son a saviour.
Jehovah made Othniel a saviour.
Bros, is Othniel Jehovah?

So you agree that there is more than 1 saviour even when the bible speaks of only one savior but you find it hard to believe Jesus Christ is a true God?

Tcwork:

Moses was not made a God, he was made as a god.

'A god ,or A God'(means the same thing in Greek/ Hebrew.
Exodus 7:1 in most Bibles is big letter God..)

Zechariah 9.9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion.
Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem.
Look! Your king is coming to you.+
He is righteous, bringing salvation.

Isaiah44. 6-8
This is what Jehovah says,
The King of Israel+ and his Repurchaser,+ Jehovah of armies:
‘I am the first and I am the last.+
There is no God but me.+

Riddle me this, who is the king of israel. Can't you see the bible is talking about the same person?

Tcwork:

Isaiah 43.11
I—I am Jehovah,+ and besides me there is no savior.
Is Jesus Christ not the Savior?
John 17.3 Says there is one true God. Isaiah says one savior.
What does that tell you about Jesus Christ

Do you see how that verse shows that Jehovah is the only principal Saviour.

Judges 3:9
When the Israelites called to Jehovah for help, Jehovah raised up a savior to rescue the Israelites, Othʹni·el the son of Keʹnaz, the younger brother of Caʹleb.

Othniel was used by Jehovah as a saviour for the Israelites .
Yet, he took the glory as the principal Saviour because He was Just a means the deliverance is done!

Likewise,
Acts 13:23
According to his promise, from the offspring of this man, God has brought to Israel a savior, Jesus.
Jesus was another saviour Jesus raised. But this time to deliver the whole mankind from the bondage of sins and death.
(compare with Jude 25).

Now, who's the principal Saviour?

Janosky:

'A god ,or A God'(means the same thing in Greek/ Hebrew.
Exodus 7:1 in most Bibles is big letter God..)

When the bible was written. There was no big or small letter god. Hebrew does not even have small case letters. The big and small G is a factor of modern translation not the original word od God

Tcwork:

So you agree that there is more than 1 saviour even when the bible speaks of only one savior but you find it hard to believe Jesus Christ is a true God?

Understanding, Bros.
Othniel was a Saviour , he was appointed.
So was Jesus Christ too.
Nobody made Jehovah a Saviour..
Do you understand?

haddeylium:


Do you see how that verse shows that Jehovah is the only principal Saviour.

Judges 3:9
When the Israelites called to Jehovah for help, Jehovah raised up a savior to rescue the Israelites, Othʹni·el the son of Keʹnaz, the younger brother of Caʹleb.

Othniel was used by Jehovah as a saviour for the Israelites .
Yet, he took the glory as the principal Saviour because He was Just a means the deliverance is done!

Likewise,
Acts 13:23
According to his promise, from the offspring of this man, God has brought to Israel a savior, Jesus.
Jesus was another saviour Jesus raised. But this time to deliver the whole mankind from the bondage of sins and death.
(compare with Jude 25).

Now, who's the principal Saviour?

The bible never mentioned a principal saviour, Isaiah says only saviour not only principal savior. Yet like you have quoted, other saviors emerge. That is the way of God.

Tcwork:
Zechariah 9.9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion.
Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem.
Look! Your king is coming to you.+
He is righteous, bringing salvation.

Isaiah44. 6-8
This is what Jehovah says,
The King of Israel+ and his Repurchaser,+ Jehovah of armies:
‘I am the first and I am the last.+
There is no God but me.+

Riddle me this, who is the king of israel. Can't you see the bible is talking about the same person?

Jesus you said has a Father, you now claim he is the same person his Father is.

Tcwork:

Moses was not made a God, he was made as a god.

The Hebrew language has no lower case in their Alphabet .
So, It was written in capital letters sir.

compare it with Ex 4:16 and answer the question.
Did God make him a false God?

Janosky:


Understanding, Bros.
Othniel was a Saviour , he was appointed.
So was Jesus Christ too.
Nobody made Jehovah a Saviour..
Do you understand?

You seem to be writing another bible. A saviour is a saviour. The bible never spoke about or differentiated the classes of saviours. You are now using human wisdom to create classes of saviours