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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by DappaD: 11:24pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Yea the trinity doctrine is not based in scriptures
but you don't seem to get it. On the other hand
the scriptures teach that Jehovah of the old testament is Jesus Christ

The man below has his own version that’s similar to yours and he made it clear that God is a trinity.
And he even calls Jehovah the Father which you deny, so who are you to say otherwise?
Can’t you see that it’s the same trinity doctrine but refashioned and restructured into several versions?


livingchrist:
no, infact Jesus is Jehovah God. The bible revealed that Jehovah God is Trinity Gen 1vv26, but Jehovah as a name was a revelation of God to the Jews but Jesus is the revelation of God to all mankind

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by DappaD: 11:25pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

You bore false witness. Don't you get it, this is not a game. It's about serious people sharing their beliefs and discussin scriptures. It's about asking important questions and answering them.
Many people are silently following this thread and learning from contributions.
Don't you think if you have any idea about what we are discussing you can contribute without causing a distraction.
Take a cue from the many people that have opposed me on this thread.
They have all been wonderful people with brilliant opinions.


Okay. Carry on.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 11:49pm On Jan 13
DappaD:


Okay. Carry on.
Thanks for understanding
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 11:53pm On Jan 13
DappaD:


The man below has his own version that’s similar to yours and he made it clear that God is a trinity.
And he even calls Jehovah the Father which you deny, so who are you to say otherwise?
Can’t you see that it’s the same trinity doctrine but refashioned and restructured into several versions?
If you are not sure of the meaning of trinity just ask.
The Christian doctrine of the Trinity (Latin: Trinitas, lit. 'triad', from Latin: trinus "threefold"wink[1] holds that God is one God, but three coeternal and consubstantial persons:[2][3] the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. The three persons are distinct, yet are one "substance, essence or nature" (homoousios).


Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Princewell2012(m): 2:55am On Jan 14
Tcwork:
In case you still doubt, it was Christ that led the children of Israel to the promise land.
Corinthians 10:1-4 KJV
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ

Excellent. You have just solve all my confusion. I can now concentrate. God bless you. Am not regretting of waking up by This time to read this piece. The time is 2.55Am
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:25am On Jan 14
Their Trinity will ever remain what it is!

It will continue to promote
©Division- Each time an individual among them feels cheated or betrayed he/she freely walks away and pitch his/her tent elsewhere, then begin gathering members who feels the same way. Yet they will still believe they're worshiping the same God as the group they left.

©Racism- Pride remains in their midst so they can't unite as one despite claiming worshipers of the same God.

©Politics- Since pride and nepotism remains they can not stop but continue fight for power and their Trinity God is rendered useless.

©Sectarianism- They continue forming sects in the name of denominations whereas conflicting doctrines and contradicting teachings is what they're dispensing.

©Gender confusion- They can't conclude on the gender that should take the lead so both males and females lead in the worship of their Trinity even though it's written in the book (Bible) that only males should lead in worship.

©Stealing- They will continue to defraud one another using God's name, tithes, offerings, first fruits and so on is their target, and when they're able to collect these from they gullible followers they acquire material possessions everywhere yet saying heaven is their target.

©Promiscuity- Since each person can start his own Church, whatever he/does in the name of Trinity is welcomed.

©Spiritism- They employ every means to perform various spiritistic acts, this is what faithless people love, so with little magical acts they're able to gather crowd.

But one thing is certain, they will never unite in Trinity whatever disrupt pagans equally affects them! Luke 11:23 smiley


DappaD:

The man below has his own version that’s similar to yours and he made it clear that God is a trinity.
And he even calls Jehovah the Father which you deny, so who are you to say otherwise?
Can’t you see that it’s the same trinity doctrine but refashioned and restructured into several versions?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:47am On Jan 14
Princewell2012:


Excellent. You have just solve all my confusion. I can now concentrate. God bless you. Am not regretting of waking up by This time to read this piece. The time is 2.55Am
You are welcome
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 10:13am On Jan 14
MaxInDHouse:
Their Trinity will ever remain what it is!

It will continue to promote
©Division- Each time an individual among them feels cheated or betrayed he/she freely walks away and pitch his/her tent elsewhere, then begin gathering members who feels the same way. Yet they will still believe they're worshiping the same God as the group they left.

©Racism- Pride remains in their midst so they can't unite as one despite claiming worshipers of the same God.

©Politics- Since pride and nepotism remains they can not stop but continue fight for power and their Trinity God is rendered useless.

©Sectarianism- They continue forming sects in the name of denominations whereas conflicting doctrines and contradicting teachings is what they're dispensing.

©Gender confusion- They can't conclude on the gender that should take the lead so both males and females lead in the worship of their Trinity even though it's written in the book (Bible) that only males should lead in worship.

©Stealing- They will continue to defraud one another using God's name, tithes, offerings, first fruits and so on is their target, and when they're able to collect these from they gullible followers they acquire material possessions everywhere yet saying heaven is their target.

©Promiscuity- Since each person can start his own Church, whatever he/does in the name of Trinity is welcomed.

©Spiritism- They employ every means to perform various spiritistic acts, this is what faithless people love, so with little magical acts they're able to gather crowd.

But one thing is certain, they will never unite in Trinity whatever disrupt pagans equally affects them! Luke 11:23 smiley


Wow, you came back prepared. Still, we shouldn't just lump every believe in one.
All religions have certain similarities yet we have to judge each by its own content.
It is quite insensitive to blanket 2 contrasting beliefs just because of a few similarities.
Not long ago, A wise man showed me how we worship different Gods even though we use the same bible are refer to our Gods by the same names.
We cannot afford to be shallow in the way we view others beliefs
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by sonmvayina(m): 11:02am On Jan 14
The gospel stories comes from ancient stories about Marduk. Marduk is the son of Enki. He is also the Lord God of the old testament. That is the God of the jews but with a different name. He is also Eledumare of the yoruba and chukwu of the igbos..

It was Athanasius who said he was both God and man at the council of Nicea. In other to satisfy both partiesand end the arguement that dragged on for almost two years..
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Maamin(m): 1:39pm On Jan 14
Tcwork:

Psalms 110.1 This depends on the translation
KJV Acts2:34-36 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
The decision to mark the lords name in capital was a choice of translator. All letters appear in uppercase in Hebrew, they had no lowercase

Still from that verse 36 of Acts 2 you just quoted did you see where it says God has made that same Jesus , whome you crucified, both Lord and Christ?

Surely God the father(Jehovah) made the son both Lord and Christ (anointed one)

They are not the same entity as you have said in your thread

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 1:43pm On Jan 14
Tcwork:

Please I would love any of you to address this

'Face to face' refers to intimacy of communication, Nobody can see God's face. Judges 6:11-22, Gideon never saw God's face but he had an intimate communication with the angel of Yahweh.
The truth stands.. Exodus 33:20-22 , John 6:46, John 1:18..
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 1:47pm On Jan 14
Maamin:


Still from that verse 36 of Acts 2 you just quoted did you see where it says God has made that same Jesus , whome you crucified, both Lord and Christ?

Surely God the father(Jehovah) made the son both Lord and Christ (anointed one)

They are not the same entity as you have said in your thread

Bros Maamin, good afternoon Sir.
Longest time no see..
I hope you are doing fine.

Shalom.

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Maamin(m): 1:58pm On Jan 14
Tcwork:
Let's compare again
10. Declare among the nations: “Jehovah has become King!+
The earth* is firmly established, it cannot be moved.*
He will judge* the peoples fairly.”+
11 Let the heavens rejoice, and let the earth be joyful;
Let the sea thunder and all that fills it;+
12 Let the fields and everything in them rejoice.+
At the same time let all the trees of the forest shout joyfully+
13 Before Jehovah, for he is coming,*
He is coming to judge the earth.
He will judge the inhabited earth* with righteousness+
And the peoples with his faithfulness

Now whow is coming to Judge is it Christ or his father?

Matthew 25:31-32
"When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats.

John 5:22
For the Father judges no one, but has committed all judgment to the Son,

Jehovah is coming to judge the world, who is Jehovah


Ok i see another part that is confusing you greatly

Jesus said he came in the name of the father (Jehovah)
Jesus said all that the father own is his as well
Jesus said all that he sees the father does he does as well
Jesus said he doesn't seek his will but that of the father
Jesus said the father is in me and I am in the father

Through righteousness and humility Jesus obtain a name and position above every other creature either in heaven on earth or beneath the earth.

Finally the name Jesus translate "Jehovah is Saviour"
Now Jesus by inheritance can bear his father's name.

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 2:10pm On Jan 14
Maamin:


Ok i see another part that is confusing you greatly

Jesus said he came in the name of the father (Jehovah)
Jesus said all that the father own is his as well
Jesus said all that he sees the father does he does as well
Jesus said he doesn't seek his will but that of the father
Jesus said the father is in me and I am in the father

Through righteousness and humility Jesus obtain a name and position above every other creature either in heaven on earth or beneath the earth.

Finally the name Jesus translate "Jehovah is Saviour"
Now Jesus by inheritance can bear his father's name.
What is your point sir
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 2:14pm On Jan 14
Janosky:


'Face to face' refers to intimacy of communication, Nobody can see God's face. Judges 6:11-22, Gideon never saw God's face but he had an intimate communication with the angel of Yahweh.
The truth stands.. Exodus 33:20-22 , John 6:46, John 1:18..
Oga that is the most plain scripture even for a child. Why don't we accept the scriptures without creating human interpretation.
Face to face does not mean an intimate communication it mean face to face.
And how does judges 6.11-22 have to do with this discussion. Gideon saw an angel, that was well documented and Moses saw Jehovah, equally well documented. And please everyone knows the meaning of face to face no need to twist the bible

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 2:16pm On Jan 14
Maamin:


Still from that verse 36 of Acts 2 you just quoted did you see where it says God has made that same Jesus , whome you crucified, both Lord and Christ?

Surely God the father(Jehovah) made the son both Lord and Christ (anointed one)

They are not the same entity as you have said in your thread
Sir you need to read my thread properly. I never said the father and the son are the same entity
I said the son, Jesus Christ is Jehovah and not the father
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by haddeylium(m): 2:39pm On Jan 14
Tcwork:

So we both accept that there are many saviors not an only saviour right?

Good!
Now learn at your Pace!
Jehovah is the only person that is referred to as the source of Salvation 'No other one beside him' (Isa 43:11; 45:21).
He did this through men he raised as Saviour.

...and because of your great mercy, you would give them saviors to rescue them out of the hand of their adversaries.(Neh 9:27).

All other are appointed to serve as Saviour.
Several Judges served in this capacities; Othniel, Ehud, Moses (Jg 2:16; 3:9, 15).
Salvation is provided by JEHOVAH through all these men.

Likewise.
Jesus name means -JEHOVAH is Saviour!
So, Jesus was sent as Saviour by Jehovah 'the principal saviour'(1Jo 4:14)
Jehovah is Jesus saviour included (Heb 5:7; Ps 28:8.)
What should that tell you?

So, Jehovah as the Principal Saviour provided salvation through those men and Jesus.

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 2:45pm On Jan 14
haddeylium:


Good!
Now learn at your Pace!
Jehovah is the only person that is referred to as the source of Salvation 'No other one beside him' (Isa 43:11; 45:21).
He did this through men he raised as Saviour.

...and because of your great mercy, you would give them saviors to rescue them out of the hand of their adversaries.(Neh 9:27).

All other are appointed to serve as Saviour.
Several Judges served in this capacities; Othniel, Ehud, Moses (Jg 2:16; 3:9, 15).
Salvation is provided by JEHOVAH through all these men.

Likewise.
Jesus name means -JEHOVAH is Saviour!
So, Jesus was sent as Saviour by Jehovah 'the principal saviour'(1Jo 4:14)
Jehovah is Jesus saviour included (Heb 5:7; Ps 28:8.)
What should that tell you?

So, Jehovah as the Principal Saviour provided salvation through those men and Jesus.
We have already gone over this. You are still repeating an argument that has been refuted but let me help you out.
Isaiah 43.11 says
I—I am Jehovah,+ and besides me there is no savior.
It did not talk about principal salvation or source of Salvation.
And I agree Jehovah/Jesus is the Savior of the world. He brought salvation to the world through his pain and blood. He bore the sins of the world. On the cross, he asked "Father why have you forsaken me." He alone paid the price
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by haddeylium(m): 2:52pm On Jan 14
Tcwork:

We have already gone over this. You are still repeating an argument that has been refuted but let me help you out.
Isaiah 43.11 says
I—I am Jehovah,+ and besides me there is no savior.
It did not talk about principal salvation or source of Salvation.

Principal Saviour is supreme. He appointed others that the salvation is done through them. And he's those he appointed Saviour. you understand?

If I say, I built this House all by myself- Would that statement be wrong?
Answer.

Note; I appointed/employed Workers, Engineer, labourer that helped in building that house.
But, who's receiving the glory?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 2:59pm On Jan 14
haddeylium:


Principal Saviour is supreme. He appointed others that the salvation is done through them. And he's those he appointed Saviour. you understand?

If I say, I built this House all by myself- Would that statement be wrong?
Answer.

Note; I appointed/employed Workers, Engineer, labour that helped in building that house.
But, who's receiving the glory?
Who bore the pain of your salvation?
Who paid the price of your salvation?
Who died for your sin?
The Bible never taught categories of saviours. It's a modern teaching and yesterday was my first time hearing it
But we could leave this saviour discussion for a while and address other aspects of the discussion. What do you think?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by haddeylium(m): 3:24pm On Jan 14
Tcwork:

Who bore the pain of your salvation?
Who paid the price of your salvation?
Who died for your sin?
The Bible never taught categories of saviours. It's a modern teaching and yesterday was my first time hearing it
No matter how the Workman you employed/appointed for building your house labour, you'll still receive the glory as the Mastermind behind it and can rightly say I built this house myself.

Jesus is Jehovah's obedient servant ! (Act 3:13)
Jehovah provides salvation from sin through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the Bible refers to Jesus as “Savior.”​—Acts 5:​31

But we could leave this saviour discussion for a while and address other aspects of the discussion. What do you think?

If you understand the previous. Fine!

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 4:03pm On Jan 14
haddeylium:

No matter how the Workman you employed/appointed for building your house labour, you'll still receive the glory as the Mastermind behind it and can rightly say I built this house myself.

Jesus is Jehovah's obedient servant ! (Act 3:13)
Jehovah provides salvation from sin through the ransom sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the Bible refers to Jesus as “Savior.”​—Acts 5:​31



If you understand the previous. Fine!
We where begining to go round in circles. So I presented fresh grass.
You keep saying Jesus Christ was sent by Jehovah and I keep telling you that Jesus Christ is Jehovah
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by haddeylium(m): 4:38pm On Jan 14
Tcwork:

We where begining to go round in circles. So I presented fresh grass.

The BibleYou keep saying Jesus Christ was sent by Jehovah
Fixed!
1 John 4:14
In addition, we ourselves have seen and are bearing witness that the Father has sent his Son as savior of the world.

and I keep telling you that Jesus Christ is Jehovah
Attach scripture or that remain your personal Opinion cheesy
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 5:28pm On Jan 14
haddeylium:

Fixed!
1 John 4:14
In addition, we ourselves have seen and are bearing witness that the Father has sent his Son as savior of the world.


Attach scripture or that remain your personal Opinion cheesy
You ask for scriptures when I have given you 10s.
I believe you did not follow this thread from the start.
1 John4.14
just says it all. Jesus Christ/ Jehovah was sent to be the Savior of the world. There is nothing like a principal saviour.
And no need for the match fixing, just make your points

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 5:30pm On Jan 14
Even your own scriptures support my teaching that Jesus Christ /Jehovah is Saviour. Thanks for bringing up 1John4.14
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 8:12pm On Jan 14
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Tcwork:

You ask for scriptures when I have given you 10s.
I believe you did not follow this thread from the start.
1 John4.14
just says it all. Jesus Christ/ Jehovah was sent to be the Savior of the world. There is nothing like a principal saviour.
And no need for the [b]match fixing
, just make your points


Religion religion.
He was sent to save the world [b][/b]with what exactly
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 10:32pm On Jan 14
haddeylium:


Good!
Now learn at your Pace!
Jehovah is the only person that is referred to as the source of Salvation 'No other one beside him' (Isa 43:11; 45:21).
He did this through men he raised as Saviour.

...and because of your great mercy, you would give them saviors to rescue them out of the hand of their adversaries.(Neh 9:27).

All other are appointed to serve as Saviour.
Several Judges served in this capacities; Othniel, Ehud, Moses (Jg 2:16; 3:9, 15).
Salvation is provided by JEHOVAH through all these men.

Likewise.
Jesus name means -JEHOVAH is Saviour!
So, Jesus was sent as Saviour by Jehovah 'the principal saviour'(1Jo 4:14)
Jehovah is Jesus saviour included (Heb 5:7; Ps 28:8.)
What should that tell you?

So, Jehovah as the Principal Saviour provided salvation through those men and Jesus.






You have some valid points. Christians Don't even understand what they practice. They think through the death of a messenger (which is peganism) they are saved.

When you carefully study the good book from beginning to the end, you will see how people tried hard to mock God by exchanging the glory of the immortal God(without death) for other practices(religion & death-related atonement) ~Romans 1:22-23 & 25

But this is a logical standard;

*And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matt 19:16-17)*

In day to day activities. Those commandments.. shape the society well. So you can actually view an eternal life(if there is anything like that) by test running the commandments here on Earth.~ "near logical"
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 11:49pm On Jan 14
Jman24:







You have some valid points. Christians Don't even understand what they practice. They think through the death of a messenger (which is peganism) they are saved.

When you carefully study the good book from beginning to the end, you will see how people tried hard to mock God by exchanging the glory of the immortal God(without death) for other practices(religion & death-related atonement) ~Romans 1:22-23 & 25

But this is a logical standard;

*And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matt 19:16-17)*

In day to day activities. Those commandments.. shape the society well. So you can actually view an eternal life(if there is anything like that) by test running the commandments here on Earth.~ "near logical"
What does the death of Christ mean to you?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Jman24(m): 4:33am On Jan 15
Tcwork:

What does the death of Christ mean to you?


I'm impressed you understood the write up.
just follow your conviction.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:02am On Jan 15
If he truly understood he won't ask you any question!
For the fact that he still asked a question shows he hasn't agreed with you but since you don't know what next to say you'll rather look for means of escape after divulging your personal preconceived thoughts.
Well that's the difference between true Christians and misinformed Churchgoers who are also claiming Christians.
Jesus never asked his followers to walk away from someone who asks questions rather they must ascertain whether there is an agreement or not, if there's an agreement the person becomes their brother in faith but when there's disagreement they mark that place {Matthew 10:13} they mark the place means the person is not someone with whom they're worshiping the same God that's why Jesus said such ones will not survive the coming destruction! Matthew 10:14-15

It's pathetic seeing arrogant misinformed Churchgoers claiming they're also preaching when they're not making any progress in disciple making work Jesus commissioned.

Please between the OP and you what was the conclusion of your chatting? Obviously both just went your separate ways without any concrete agreement on teaching! undecided

So are both of you Christians worshiping the same God now that you're not of the same line of thought? 1Corinthians 1:10

That's why JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES believes you guys are just deceiving yourselves! undecided


Jman24:

I'm impressed you understood the write up.
just follow your conviction.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by bixton(m): 6:40am On Jan 15
Jman24:







You have some valid points. Christians Don't even understand what they practice. They think through the death of a messenger (which is peganism) they are saved.

When you carefully study the good book from beginning to the end, you will see how people tried hard to mock God by exchanging the glory of the immortal God(without death) for other practices(religion & death-related atonement) ~Romans 1:22-23 & 25

But this is a logical standard;

*And behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matt 19:16-17)*

Jesus response here teaches us that in whatever we do we should give complete reverance to His Father. None other takes the Fathers' glory.
The Father only gives His glory to those He chooses fit.


In day to day activities. Those commandments.. shape the society well. So you can actually view an eternal life(if there is anything like that) by test running the commandments here on Earth.~ "near logical"

There's no such thing as test running. It's not an automobile machine.

No one can truly practice what he/she does not believe and have faith in.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by bixton(m): 7:25am On Jan 15
Good Morning folks....

The only contention the Jews had with Jesus was getting to believe that He is able to forgive their sins and by extension grant them salvation.

Now all through the Scriptures there was hardly any place where any of the Apostles/Disciples had to raise any argument whether Jesus Christ is God, Lord, Jehovah,etc,etc.

They clearly understood who the following.....
God the Father
Jesus Christ(Messiah)...the Son
The Holy Spirit

While it is good to have this discussions for probably learning sake, does it truly give us the desired edification or improve our spiritual lives as God expects of us?


The duty of Christ was/is to do the work of His Father. To preach forgiveness of sins through Him and to those who believe may have eternal life through Him.

The mandate given to the early disciples/apostles and every other believer/disciple is that we preach to all men(women) Jesus Christ for the purpose which He came, died and resurrected. That all who by His Word gets convicted, seek for repentance be born of water and spirit and remain steadfast to His word.

This is what matters:
1)Do you believe in God the Father?
2)Do you believe in Jesus Christ as Son of God who died and was resurrected?
3)Do you believe in the Holy Spirit?


John.14.8 - Philip said to Him, "Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us."

The bolded above is somewhat like the entire post on this thread where everyone is theorizing, interpreting and analysing.

But this below is the Jesus response.

John.14.9 - Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, "Show us the Father'?

John.14.10 - Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works.


I end with this

Rom.8.9 - But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
Rom.8.11 - But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

I hope we can all comprehend the immediate above Scripture.



May we all have peace and rest in the Lord. Amen.

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