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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 7:36pm On Jan 13
haddeylium:


Jehovah made Moses a God (Ex 7:1)
But, only Jehovah is referred to as the 'Only true God'(John 17:3)
Is Moses a False God?
The false God is obviously a notion of your own creation. But Yea it's a brilliant way of thinking.
And Jesus did not make Moses a God in Ex7.1 he made him like God big difference.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 7:54pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

I made no claim I only pointed you to the scriptures. Is Jesus Christ a false god. He is the true God. Jesus Christ created the world and everything in it doesn't that qualify him to be the true God?
According to your Bible, John 17:3 who was sent?
Was the true God sent ?
Who sent the true God?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 7:59pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

So Jesus is a false God? Please what do you mean when you say True God?
Reading your scriptures and asking questions not just accepting what you have been taught could go a long way

John 10:34-36 & John 20:17, is Jesus a god ?

The true God is the Father of all, Ephesians 4:6.
"The one to whom every family in heaven and earth owes their name", Ephesians 3:14-15.
Bros, is that Jesus?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:21pm On Jan 13
Hi Janosky, you didn't reply my last mail! undecided
Janosky:

According to your Bible, John 17:3 who was sent?
Was the true God sent ?
Who sent the true God?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 8:26pm On Jan 13
MaxInDHouse:
Hi Janosky, you didn't reply my last mail! undecided
Good evening, Brother Max....

I will check my email and respond ASAP..
Thank you Sir.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by haddeylium(m): 8:40pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

The false God is obviously a notion of your own creation. But Yea it's a brilliant way of thinking.
And Jesus did not make Moses a God in Ex7.1 he made him like God big difference.

Exodus 7:1(ASV)
And Jehovah said unto Moses, See, I have made thee as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Seems you're using KJV currently.
Anywhere you see LORD (capital letters), it was substituted for JEHOVAH.
So, did Jehovah make Moses a false God?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:17pm On Jan 13
haddeylium:


Exodus 7:1(ASV)
And Jehovah said unto Moses, See, I have made thee as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
Seems you're using KJV currently.
Anywhere you see LORD (capital letters), it was substituted for JEHOVAH.
So, did Jehovah make Moses a false God?
Even in the version you quoted, Moses was made as God to pharaoh he was not made a God. But what's your point with this Moses god theory. And I read from the NKJV but funny many of you guys on this thread are not comfortable with kjv.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:19pm On Jan 13
Janosky:

According to your Bible, John 17:3 who was sent?
Was the true God sent ?
Who sent the true God?
Your point is that Jesus Christ is a false God?
You seem not to like to state your point clearly
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by haddeylium(m): 9:20pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Even in the version you quoted, Moses was made as God to pharaoh he was not made a God. But what's your point with this Moses god theory
compare that part to your KJV
So, Was Moses made as false God?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:24pm On Jan 13
Janosky:


John 10:34-36 & John 20:17, is Jesus a god ?

The true God is the Father of all, Ephesians 4:6.
"The one to whom every family in heaven and earth owes their name", Ephesians 3:14-15.
Bros, is that Jesus?
Does this make Jesus a false God?
Don't forget that all that the father has, he gave to his son.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:26pm On Jan 13
haddeylium:

compare that part to your KJV
So, Was Moses made as false God?
Oga don't call it my kjv. I have no version . I did not write any. But I am still not getting your point. Are you calling Moses a god?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 9:29pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Your point is that Jesus Christ is a false God?
You seem not to like to state your point clearly
The term "false God" is of your own creation.
Exodus 12:12, 1 Corinthians 8:5, Jehovah recognize there are gods (whether you capitalize it or not, Theo's is theo's, Elohim is elohim.
There is no upper case /Lower case dichotomy in greek or Hebrew.).
There is only one true God. He is not Jesus Christ.
John 17:3, Jesus said so.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 9:34pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Does this make Jesus a false God?
Don't forget that all that the father has, he gave to his son.

Did Jehovah receive power from whom?
Jehovah received authority from whom?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:38pm On Jan 13
Janosky:


Did Jehovah receive power from whom?
Jehovah received authority from whom?
I need to understand your point sir are you saying Jesus Christ is a true God or a false god?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:41pm On Jan 13
Janosky:

The term "false God" is of your own creation.
Exodus 12:12, 1 Corinthians 8:5, Jehovah recognize there are gods (whether you capitalize it or not, Theo's is theo's, Elohim is elohim.
There is no upper case /Lower case dichotomy in greek or Hebrew.).
There is only one true God. He is not Jesus Christ.
John 17:3, Jesus said so.
You pointed me to John 17.3 telling me that there is just one true god. Now I asked you if Jesus Christ is a true God or a false God or maybe somewhere in the middle. Please educatel us
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:45pm On Jan 13
Janosky:


Did Jehovah receive power from whom?
Jehovah received authority from whom?
Isaiah 43.11
I—I am Jehovah,+ and besides me there is no savior.
Is Jesus Christ not the Savior?
John 17.3 Says there is one true God. Isaiah says one savior.
What does that tell you about Jesus Christ
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by haddeylium(m): 9:47pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Oga don't call it my kjv. I have no version . I did not write any. But I am still not getting your point. Are you calling Moses a god?

Jehovah said he made Pharaoh a God (Ex 7:1).
Also, He also served as a God (Ex 4:16).

Begs the question; Was Moses made a false God or Did he serve as false God?

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 9:51pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

You pointed me to John 17.3 telling me that there is just one true god. Now I asked you if Jesus Christ is a true God or a false God or maybe somewhere in the middle. Please educatel us

Bros, you agreed Jesus Christ has a Father.
John 17:1-3. The Father is the true God, the Father is the Most High God..

Psalms 83:18 Jehovah is the Most High God.
Jesus Christ is NOT Jehovah.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:56pm On Jan 13
Janosky:


Bros, you agreed Jesus Christ has a Father.
John 17:1-3. The Father is the true God, the Father is the Most High God..

Psalms 83:18 Jehovah is the Most High God.
Jesus Christ is NOT Jehovah.

Jesus having a father does not mean he name is not Jehovah. Pls explain your logic here
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 9:56pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Isaiah 43.11
I—I am Jehovah,+ and besides me there is no savior.
Is Jesus Christ not the Savior?
John 17.3 Says there is one true God. Isaiah says one savior.
What does that tell you about Jesus Christ
John 17:3 and John 3:16... Jesus was sent.. .
Jehovah the Saviour of Israel,Isaiah 43:11 made his son a saviour.
Jehovah made Othniel a saviour.
Bros, is Othniel Jehovah? cheesy cheesy
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:57pm On Jan 13
haddeylium:


Jehovah said he made Pharaoh a God (Ex 7:1).
Also, He also served as a God (Ex 4:16).

Begs the question; Was Moses made a false God or Did he serve as false God?
Moses was not made a God, he was made as a god.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 9:58pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Jesus having a father does not mean he name is not Jehovah. Pls explain your logic here


Is Jesus "Most High" ?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 9:59pm On Jan 13
Janosky:

John 17:3 and John 3:16... Jesus was sent.. .
Jehovah the Saviour of Israel,Isaiah 43:11 made his son a saviour.
Jehovah made Othniel a saviour.
Bros, is Othniel Jehovah? cheesy cheesy
So you agree that there is more than 1 saviour even when the bible speaks of only one savior but you find it hard to believe Jesus Christ is a true God?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 10:01pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Moses was not made a God, he was made as a god.
'A god ,or A God'(means the same thing in Greek/ Hebrew.
Exodus 7:1 in most Bibles is big letter God..)
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 10:02pm On Jan 13
Zechariah 9.9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion.
Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem.
Look! Your king is coming to you.+
He is righteous, bringing salvation.

Isaiah44. 6-8
This is what Jehovah says,
The King of Israel+ and his Repurchaser,+ Jehovah of armies:
‘I am the first and I am the last.+
There is no God but me.+

Riddle me this, who is the king of israel. Can't you see the bible is talking about the same person?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by haddeylium(m): 10:03pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Isaiah 43.11
I—I am Jehovah,+ and besides me there is no savior.
Is Jesus Christ not the Savior?
John 17.3 Says there is one true God. Isaiah says one savior.
What does that tell you about Jesus Christ

Do you see how that verse shows that Jehovah is the only principal Saviour.

Judges 3:9
When the Israelites called to Jehovah for help, Jehovah raised up a savior to rescue the Israelites, Othʹni·el the son of Keʹnaz, the younger brother of Caʹleb.

Othniel was used by Jehovah as a saviour for the Israelites .
Yet, he took the glory as the principal Saviour because He was Just a means the deliverance is done!

Likewise,
Acts 13:23
According to his promise, from the offspring of this man, God has brought to Israel a savior, Jesus.
Jesus was another saviour Jesus raised. But this time to deliver the whole mankind from the bondage of sins and death.
(compare with Jude 25).

Now, who's the principal Saviour?

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 10:04pm On Jan 13
Janosky:

'A god ,or A God'(means the same thing in Greek/ Hebrew.
Exodus 7:1 in most Bibles is big letter God..)
When the bible was written. There was no big or small letter god. Hebrew does not even have small case letters. The big and small G is a factor of modern translation not the original word od God

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 10:05pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

So you agree that there is more than 1 saviour even when the bible speaks of only one savior but you find it hard to believe Jesus Christ is a true God?

Understanding, Bros.
Othniel was a Saviour , he was appointed.
So was Jesus Christ too.
Nobody made Jehovah a Saviour..
Do you understand?

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 10:07pm On Jan 13
haddeylium:


Do you see how that verse shows that Jehovah is the only principal Saviour.

Judges 3:9
When the Israelites called to Jehovah for help, Jehovah raised up a savior to rescue the Israelites, Othʹni·el the son of Keʹnaz, the younger brother of Caʹleb.

Othniel was used by Jehovah as a saviour for the Israelites .
Yet, he took the glory as the principal Saviour because He was Just a means the deliverance is done!

Likewise,
Acts 13:23
According to his promise, from the offspring of this man, God has brought to Israel a savior, Jesus.
Jesus was another saviour Jesus raised. But this time to deliver the whole mankind from the bondage of sins and death.
(compare with Jude 25).

Now, who's the principal Saviour?
The bible never mentioned a principal saviour, Isaiah says only saviour not only principal savior. Yet like you have quoted, other saviors emerge. That is the way of God.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Janosky: 10:08pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:
Zechariah 9.9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion.
Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem.
Look! Your king is coming to you.+
He is righteous, bringing salvation.

Isaiah44. 6-8
This is what Jehovah says,
The King of Israel+ and his Repurchaser,+ Jehovah of armies:
‘I am the first and I am the last.+
There is no God but me.+

Riddle me this, who is the king of israel. Can't you see the bible is talking about the same person?
Jesus you said has a Father, you now claim he is the same person his Father is.

grin cheesy cheesy grin grin

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by haddeylium(m): 10:10pm On Jan 13
Tcwork:

Moses was not made a God, he was made as a god.

The Hebrew language has no lower case in their Alphabet .
So, It was written in capital letters sir.

compare it with Ex 4:16 and answer the question.
Did God make him a false God?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Jehovah? by Tcwork: 10:10pm On Jan 13
Janosky:


Understanding, Bros.
Othniel was a Saviour , he was appointed.
So was Jesus Christ too.
Nobody made Jehovah a Saviour..
Do you understand?

You seem to be writing another bible. A saviour is a saviour. The bible never spoke about or differentiated the classes of saviours. You are now using human wisdom to create classes of saviours

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