Emusan:

You said it's a big lie but does Jesus share in God's nature or HE EXISTS IN THE VERY FORM OF GOD?

What you people don't even know is that the Greek word "Phusis" rendered as NATURE in 2 Peter 1 never be used for spirit being but for physical things and human. In fact the word was translated as MANKINDS by many translations in James 3:7 and as PEOPLE by many translations including your perverted NWT.Definitely, the verse didn't talk about God's ESSENCE.Another problem in this verse for you is that, the verse is talking about believers generally. This can be seen from the text. And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world’s corruption caused by human desires.The reason believers will share in this divine nature, is because IT WILL HELP THEM TO ESCAPE THE WORLD'S CORRUPTION CAUSED BY HUMAN DESIRES But now that you believe only few people will share this nature and you're excluded then you and the millions who will live forever on earth will continue to be living in this world of corruption.

livingchrist:
Christ partake in flesh and blood does not mean he partook of the sin associated with flesh and blood.
So partaking in something does not mean sharing the full attribute of it.

livingchrist:

Are you still doubting that Jesus is God?

Here is paul calling Jesus The great God.

Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

even angels present them selves as God

EXODUS 3:2
Moses And The Burning Bush
There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up (Exodus 3: 2).

Exodus 3:6
"I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.

The angel of the LORD also said to her, "I will so greatly multiply your offspring that they cannot be counted for multitude" (Genesis 16:10).

The angel said He Himself will multiply. I thought it was only God that does all this?

Genesis 22:12
He said, "Do not lay your hand on the boy or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me"

Genesis 22:15
The angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time from heaven.

They are so many of them, where the angel Says and talks like God even takes glory as God..

I hope I have finally cleared you. Oya go and sin no more.

Henrymorre:
even angels present them selves as God

EXODUS 3:2
Moses And The Burning Bush
There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up (Exodus 3: 2).

Exodus 3:6
"I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.

The angel of the LORD also said to her, "I will so greatly multiply your offspring that they cannot be counted for multitude" (Genesis 16:10).

The angel said He Himself will multiply. I thought it was only God that does all this?

Genesis 22:12
He said, "Do not lay your hand on the boy or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me"

Genesis 22:15
The angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time from heaven.

They are so many of them, where the angel Says and talks like God even takes glory as God..

I hope I have finally cleared you. Oya go and sin no more.

Emusan:


I didn't even want to address this before but it seems you derive joy in your ignorance and delusion.

Trinity is true and will forever be true!

Where do Christian possess God's nature?

Include the scripture oooooooooo

Lying liar JWs.

DappaD:


Yeah the same way the angels also exist in the form of God. Check Psalm 104:4 against John 4:24



Forget the word that is rendered as “nature” and focus more on the word θείας which translates to “divine” at 2Peter 1:4
The Strong’s Greek for θείας (theíos) means (an adjective, derived from 2316 /theós, "God" ) – divine, manifesting the characteristics of God's nature.

So the Christians at 2Peter 1:4 manifest characteristics of God’s nature according to the above meaning. The question is do they also become God? I need a simple and direct answer.

Emusan:


I didn't even want to address this before but it seems you derive joy in your ignorance and delusion.

Trinity is true and will forever be true!

Where do Christian possess God's nature?

Include the scripture oooooooooo

Lying liar JWs.

Henrymorre:
even angels present them selves as God

EXODUS 3:2
Moses And The Burning Bush
There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up (Exodus 3: 2).

Exodus 3:6
"I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.

The angel of the LORD also said to her, "I will so greatly multiply your offspring that they cannot be counted for multitude" (Genesis 16:10).

The angel said He Himself will multiply. I thought it was only God that does all this?

Genesis 22:12
He said, "Do not lay your hand on the boy or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me"

Genesis 22:15
The angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time from heaven.

They are so many of them, where the angel Says and talks like God even takes glory as God..

I hope I have finally cleared you. Oya go and sin no more.

Emusan:


You said it's a big lie but does Jesus share in God's nature or HE EXISTS IN THE VERY FORM OF GOD?

What you people don't even know is that the Greek word "Phusis" rendered as NATURE in 2 Peter 1 never be used for spirit being but for physical things and human. In fact the word was translated as MANKINDS by many translations in James 3:7 and as PEOPLE by many translations including your perverted NWT.

Definitely, the verse didn't talk about God's ESSENCE.

Another problem in this verse for you is that, the verse is talking about believers generally. This can be seen from the text.

And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world’s corruption caused by human desires.

The reason believers will share in this divine nature, is because IT WILL HELP THEM TO ESCAPE THE WORLD'S CORRUPTION CAUSED BY HUMAN DESIRES

But now that you believe only few people will share this nature and you're excluded then you and the millions who will live forever on earth will continue to be living in this world of corruption.

Peacefullove:



@Red, don't be an idiot , when Jesus share human nature, Did he exist in the very nature of humans or not ? Dey use brain now

To share is to exist in that very nature.

Now tell us if that make them God Almighty?

livingchrist:
@bolded, you just agreed with Trinitarians, how so?
This is what Trinitarians are telling you.
The Father and Jesus has one God nature but different persons.
Jesus and the father has same divinity making Jesus and the father one God.

God's nature is the totality of his being, If God is Almighty in his nature so Jesus is also almighty because they have same nature.

Peacefullove:


Did the verse mention sin. ?

Christ partook flesh and blood , Full flesh and blood like Adams Children. Simple. Your sense didn't see that not only Jesus partook, but Adams Children too . When u partook of something, U are fully in possession of it.

livingchrist:
In the case of Jesus It was stated that Jesus partook of flesh and blood but in 1 Peter 4
The divine nature means God's character

Henrymorre:
even angels present them selves as God

EXODUS 3:2
Moses And The Burning Bush
There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up (Exodus 3: 2).

Exodus 3:6
"I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.

The angel of the LORD also said to her, "I will so greatly multiply your offspring that they cannot be counted for multitude" (Genesis 16:10).

The angel said He Himself will multiply. I thought it was only God that does all this?

Genesis 22:12
He said, "Do not lay your hand on the boy or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me"

Genesis 22:15
The angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time from heaven.

They are so many of them, where the angel Says and talks like God even takes glory as God..

I hope I have finally cleared you. Oya go and sin no more.

Peacefullove:

Jesus partookin flesh and blood means he fully possess it , likewise Christian's partooking God's nature means they fully possess everything about that nature. Which makes them God Almighty. Since equality is now by nature.

livingchrist:
Christians partook in God's nature/character is not the same as christ partook in flesh and blood.

Peacefullove:

Listen and listen well, when you partook something u became a possessor of it. The very nature of God was partook/possessed by Christian's. So just accept they are God Almighty too late

livingchrist:
that angel of the LORD was God, It was one of the ways he appeared in the old testament.

Henrymorre:
I also read you passages that showed the angel of the Lord is not God young man. See I have tried to educate you. Read above. I knew you where going to say this so i countered you by quoting two passages where the angel of the Lord is not God.

Let me do it again one last time



Zechariah 1:11-13
Then they spoke to the angel of the LORD who was standing among the myrtle trees, "We have patrolled the earth, and lo, the whole earth remains at peace." Then the angel of the LORD said, "O LORD of hosts, how long will you withhold mercy from Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, with which you have been angry these seventy years?" Then the LORD replied with gracious and comforting words to the angel who talked with Me

I hope now you are satisfied.

2 Samuel 24:16
When the angel stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem, the LORD was grieved because of the calamity and said to the angel who was afflicting the people, "Enough! Withdraw your hand." The angel of the LORD was then at the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite

livingchrist:
I am referring to those verses you quoted earlier.
God sometimes appear in the old testament and he was often referred to as the angel of the Lord.

No angel can speak with their own authority but the angel of the Lord in those verse speak with his own authority as yahweh himself.

livingchrist:
what you are trying to do is to twist the message of 1 peter 4 for the sake of blind argument.
Partaking in Something does not make you that does it? Going by
Jesus became a true human when he partook of flesh and blood and therefore Christians become true God by partaking of the true God's nature right?
Do how many true God do you now have?

Peacefullove:


Exactly plenty God's ... Since you decide to be stupid by using nature to make people God Almighty .

livingchrist:
you are just like an unreasonable animal.
It was you who said so not me.
You said Jesus partook in flesh and blood make him human and so humans partaking in God's nature make them God also.
Go back and review your dumb post and be ashamed of yourself, if you have any.

Peacefullove:


because brain is paining you .

Get the point : equality is not judged by nature. If so President Buhari and road side mechanic would have been the same.

You idiots are saying because Jesus have same nature with God it means they are equal , that's idiotic thinking, just Christian's having God's nature doesn't make them equal with God, so also Jesus is not equal with God.

DappaD:
Yeah the same way the angels also exist in the form of God. Check Psalm 104:4 against John 4:24

[color,=red]Forget the word that is rendered as “nature”[/color] and focus more on the word θείας which translates to “divine” at 2Peter 1:4
The Strong’s Greek for θείας (theíos) means (an adjective, derived from 2316 /theós, "God" ) – divine, manifesting the characteristics of God's nature.

So the Christians at 2Peter 1:4 manifest characteristics of God’s nature according to the above meaning. The question is do they also become God? I need a simple and direct answer.

livingchrist:
you just reveal how stupid you are! The difference between Buhari and the road side mechanic is just position nothing else.
They are all equally human being, Since we all same human being then the statement that buhari is the only true human would be wrong.

How can you call Jehovah the only true God if there are other true gods too?
Idiot

Peacefullove:


Equal human being because they all have the same human nature. So postion is the real determinant not nature. Nature places everyone on equal level , even Jesus while on Earth will be the same as Peter if Nature was used. So only idiots use nature to categorize or class equality



Christian's sharing divine nature are the same as God by nature. So it's wrong to use nature.

Position is the real determinant , and no one come close to the Only true God, the God of Jesus Christ.

livingchrist:
fool so position determines if you are a real human or not? Dundee, so Buhari is a more real human than you?
Fake human
Clown

Peacefullove:


Nature place Jesus and Peter on the same level during his ministry , You are an idiot to rate them as equals because they share same human nature.

Position always is the key .

God of Jesus Christ is Bigger than Jesus.

livingchrist:
Idiot so there are different ranks of God? Clown so Jehovah is not the only true God, eeehee.
Fool
So position determines a real human or a fake human? Clown

Peacefullove:

E pain am

Emusan:

I read Psalm 104:4 but I didn't see where it says Angels are created in the FORM of God.
Spirit is just opposite of physical
Are you saying ALL PHYSICAL THINGS have the same NATURE?

The funny thing is to tell me to FORGET a critical word in the scripture just because you want to continue to defend your fraudulent doctrines.
@2nd color....It's good as you yourself know that they ONLY MANIFEST characteristics of God's nature nature not that THEY EXIST in the FORM of God.The Greek and Hebrew words use mainly to denote the actual nature God exists are translated as FORM and that was the same word USED in Phil 2 :6 for Jesus.

DappaD:

Forget the word that is rendered as “nature” and focus more on the word θείας which translates to “divine” at 2Peter 1:4
The Strong’s Greek for θείας (theíos) means (an adjective, derived from 2316 /theós, "God" ) – divine, manifesting the characteristics of God's nature.
So the Christians at 2Peter 1:4 manifest characteristics of God’s nature according to the above meaning. The question is do they also become God? I need a simple and direct answer.