TheStakeHolder:
Endsars don make this one turn activist overnight.

Failed DJ

Clearly you are stupid and she's far more better and reasonable than your simp ass,point what she said that was off?...Una go just come NL dey drop rubbish..Nitwit.

TheStakeHolder:
Endsars don make this one turn activist overnight.

Failed DJ

OK so what have done on your own little corner Mtcheww

plaindealer:


This is not about your own personal opinion, this is about obeying the law and and playing your part as a responsible member of the society.

Obey the law and they won't impound and auction your car, simple.

Btw, the penalty for driving against the traffic is 3 years in prison so which do you prefer? 3 years in prison or your car?

If the penalty for driving against traffic is 3 years imprisonment, then imprison any offender. Injustice doesn't cure injustice.

I have been on the receiving end of this thing twice.


Last year I had to assist a relative of mine to buy back her car because her driver stupidly drove against the flow of traffic. In 2005 I followed someone to search for his car after LASTMA towed it away. It still hasn't, wouldn't and can't make me go against the policy. In fact, it was last year when I discovered that people can buy back their vehicles at the auction that I became convinced that crushing the cars is the right way to go.

This is not about supporting any government. I have a right to move around Lagos without some lunatic trying to kill me by driving against the flow of traffic and I will fully support anything that protects that right.

Tonnyray:
Really?
I don't know about you but I do.

I am not talking of individuals but a group of people. All social animals including humans tend to follow a leader.

You see the effect of Trump on his followers. He tells them to break the law, they enthusiastically follow.

naptu2:



See text in bold below.




http://www.concourt.am/armenian/legal_resources/world_constitutions/constit/nigeria/nigeri-e.htm

I stand corrected. Still against the law anyway. I believe the government is putting the burned of their incompetence on the general population.
What happens to seizing or suspending driver's license or even vehicle license. What happens to punishing the actual offenders instead of the owner. Most cars owners don't drive themselves and employ driver's. You mean I send my driver to go on an errand, he drives one way and my car get impounded and auctioned, while the driver goes scot-free?

naptu2:
I have been on the receiving end of this thing twice.


Last year I had to assist a relative of mine to buy back her car because her driver stupidly drove against the flow of traffic. In 2005 I followed someone to search for his car after LASTMA towed it away. It still hasn't, wouldn't and can't make me go against the policy. In fact, it was last year when I discovered that people can buy back their vehicles at the auction that I became convinced that crushing the cars is the right way to go.

This is not about supporting any government. I have a right to move around Lagos without some lunatic trying to kill me by driving against the flow of traffic and I will fully support anything that protects that right.

Indeed. Nigerians can be the most arrogant and obnoxious people in the world sometimes. Even witness an argument on the road. You will see men and women not concerned at all with the original argument join in to be removing shirt and wrapper to fight.

This is the case here where even folks in Abia, Enugu etal, because of tribal hate and over sabi, will join this debate to be siding with their kinsman, or woman in this case, without considering the argument of Lagos road users.

We are saying we face death daily plying Lagos roads because of lawless people and some are arguing pettily against seizing and selling cars of offenders.

The situation is about brazen and potentially fatal lawlessness every law-abiding Lagos driver is fed up of and wants to stop by any means possible. As has been argued before, several deterrents have been tried with no result.

You can't ban people from the road because they simply wont comply. The best and most efficient way to prevent lawless drivers committing manslaughter on Lagos roads is to take their vehicle.

DJ Witch is just a callous attention-seeker and clout chaser only focused on boosting her 'activist' credentials.
If she has being a consistent or daily driver in Lagos State then she would not be saying this garbage.

wirinet:

I stand corrected. Still against the law anyway. I believe the government is putting the burned of their incompetence on the general population.
What happens to seizing or suspending driver's license or even vehicle license. What happens to punishing the actual offenders instead of the owner. Most cars owners don't drive themselves and employ driver's. You mean I send my driver to go on an errand, he drives one way andyou car get impounded and auctioned, while the driver goes scot-free?

Oga forget the long story. Are you from Lagos?If yes do you drive in Lagos daily? Abeg tell us that first and we continue the convo from there.

In my opinion Nigeria is cursed with too many citizens who love the sound of their own voice instead of the suggestion of real solutions to problems others face that they know nothing about yet are willing to comment on forcefully and ignorantly.

If you are faced with the scenario of leaving home this morning and not knowing if you will make it back home today or end up in a mortuary somewhere, because of the actions of a lawless driver, then perhaps you would not be arguing obdurately and needlessly here like the attention-seeking DJ Witch and her government-hating fans.

wirinet:

I stand corrected. Still against the law anyway. I believe the government is putting the burned of their incompetence on the general population.
What happens to seizing or suspending driver's license or even vehicle license. What happens to punishing the actual offenders instead of the owner. Most cars owners don't drive themselves and employ driver's. You mean I send my driver to go on an errand, he drives one way andyou car get impounded and auctioned, while the driver goes scot-free?

All those things you wrote have been done before I have seen the result. In fact I'm going to write about the result in a minute.

With respect to employing a driver, you can check out my last post about what happened to my relative last year

OneTemplate:


Oga forget the long story. Are you from Lagos?If yes do you drive in Lagos daily? Abeg tell us that first and we continue the convo from there.

In my opinion Nigeria is cursed with too many citizens who love the sound of their own voice instead of the suggestion of real solutions to problems others face that they know nothing about yet are willing to comment on forcefully and ignorantly.

If you are faced with the scenario of leaving home this morning and not knowing if you will make it back home today or end up in a mortuary somewhere, because of the actions of a lawless driver, then perhaps you would not be arguing obdurately and needlessly here like the attention-seeking DJ Witch and her government-hating fans.

I drive in lagos, and in fact have driven in lagos for over 30 years. So I know far more about Lagos traffic problems than you. I was driving in lagos when fines for traffic offenses rose from a few thousand naira to hundreds of thousands of naira. Did that stop or even reduce traffic violations? I was driving in Lagos when mandatory psychiatric evaluation and treatment was imposed on one way driving offenses, Did that stop or even reduce traffic violations? Do you think this new law of auctioning cars that are found driving one way will stop or reduce cars driving way? Your guess is as good as mine.


You don't cure a disease by treating the symptoms while leaving the root cause of the disease. We have serious system issues, which includes lawlessness and impunity by government officials and the elite, corruption at all levels and others. Then there is the problem of terrible roads. Try driving from trade fair to LASU and see the chaos that goes on there everyday.

Until those issues are addressed and thrashed, we will continue to go round in circles.

This law will only further enrich police and LASMA officials.

plaindealer:


According to the DJ woman, 1 weakened in jail is enough penalty for a life threatening criminal offence or the life of another human being.

We both know people pass one way to escape gridlock..,only to aggravate the gridlock even more..thats the truth,you trying to paint the situation worse to justify yourself is your cup of tea ...if it's on a high speed expressway now, it's different..who in their normal sense would go one way ,except the road is bad..like they do on ibadan-akure expressway.

plaindealer:



Obey the law and they won't impound and auction your car.

Obey the law, simple.

Keep continue to be a slave. Good bye

Beremx:
Is the bolded not what DJ Switch is advocating for? Are you both not saying the same thing?

Read to understand.

Ok if you're caught and offered two options. 3 years in Jail or Your car which would you pick??

See even i occasionally drive one way lol las las we too stubborn for naija jare.

DJ Switch is just a failed artiste loosing relevance as even the Endsars ish is almost forgotten

Who is DJ switch..

plaindealer:




This long essay all because you and that woman think you are above the law other evil drivers killing Lagosians are above the law.

What part of obeying the law you do not understand.

Obey the law and protect the lives of your fellow human beings instead of cars and replaceable material things, you can not replace lives.

The lives of your fellow human beings should be your priority, not lawbreakers and cars.

Am with you in obey in the law and protect lives but offenders also we will always have in a country like ours and when we do, what transparent corrective measures do we put in place not this fraudulent ineffective and inefficient that the government is currently executing. What is government doing about traffic decongestion such that we don't sit on the road for several hours without being tempted to do what they don't want! What facilities should government put in place to ensure there is literally no excuse to go one way or break traffic rules? What is government doing to ensure that upholders of the law are not the defaulters of the same law! What is government doing or putting in place to ensure that their officers are doing their jobs with sincerity of purpose and in public interest, not their pockets or abusing the powers vested on them. Even if they are offenders and impounding is their choice, how transparent and accountable are their processes and actions? These are the questions to be answer for a genuine corrective measures.

So I don't support offenders in anyway but even government, I don't trust in anyway. Their actions hasn't changed the way people behave and its till they begin to show integrity till citizens can can show a corresponding reaction or adjustment.

TheStakeHolder:
Endsars don make this one turn activist overnight.

Failed DJ

U b clown of d highest order.

DJ switch isn't against the impounding of vehicles of traffic offenders. she is against auctioning them as the process would be devoid of transparency.

Personally, I think stiffer measures like heavy fines, jail terms should be imposed depending on the gravity or nature of the traffic offense.

I also recommend crushing of the vehicles if need be. This will further reduce the alarming number of vehicles on the road thereby reducing traffic. The offenders should incur the cost too

let's not pretend, people buy back their vehicles at auctions, government sell to their cronies, in the end the vehicles return to the road and the cycles continues. Auctioning seems counter productive.

plaindealer:



So, the absence of standard roads means you have every right to disobey traffic laws and kill other people?

And until they provide standard roads, you allowed to be lawless, drive against traffic and kill people?


The kind of crazy and heartbreaking posts we read on NL. With your manner of thinking and rationalization, there's little hope for Nigeria.

You made a comparison and I gave you a pint of it, all hell broke loose on your tiny brain.

Another question for you. Why is Nigeria and it's unprogressive government still constructing the Same roads every year??

Parting shot. Most elected officials of not all go against the traffic rules once they're on transit I know you support them and they are above the law.

Beremx:
Most of the one-way traffic offenders are danfo drivers. They drive against traffic with impunity especially if they have uniformed men as passengers. I have seen this happening severally.

Those danfo drivers are number one on the list, most of them act like animals. But what are the government doing with the money after those cars are been auction? Fix the bad roads? Cause I still see so many bad roads in Lagos or they just pocket it as usual

wirinet:

I stand corrected. Still against the law anyway. I believe the government is putting the burned of their incompetence on the general population.
What happens to seizing or suspending driver's license or even vehicle license. What happens to punishing the actual offenders instead of the owner. Most cars owners don't drive themselves and employ driver's. You mean I send my driver to go on an errand, he drives one way andyou car get impounded and auctioned, while the driver goes scot-free?

So the driver will go and get another car and still commit the same offence just because the government had failed to do the right thing by getting the offender

plaindealer:





When you drive against traffic, people die, sadly.

This lawless and thoughtless woman need to explain to families and victims of these dangerous and reckless drivers why they should not be punished and just receive a slap on the wrist instead.

The owner should be tried for murder or manslaughter at the least, selling of accidented or impounded vehicles have no place in law

naptu2:
In "saner climes" like Australia, not only is the car impounded, but it is crushed.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/police-resume-car-crushing-in-a-bid-to-deter-dangerous-drivers-and-repeat-offenders/news-story/a11806dccd86ec5198bbfe14d7b8db09

This also happens in the United States.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna19339955


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T2YamA2h28


Auctioning the cars gives crazy people the chance to buy back their cars.

As for me, truth be told the best things to do instead of selling the cars is setting them of fire, or dismantling them.

No follow one way heck no so dance to the beat of the song you made.

plaindealer:
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Stay on topic, stop derailing.

Mr sycophant, you dey mad.

wirinet:

I stand corrected. Still against the law anyway. I believe the government is putting the burned of their incompetence on the general population.
What happens to seizing or suspending driver's license or even vehicle license. What happens to punishing the actual offenders instead of the owner. Most cars owners don't drive themselves and employ driver's. You mean I send my driver to go on an errand, he drives one way and my car get impounded and auctioned, while the driver goes scot-free?

At the end of the day, this is your own personal opinion, the people of Lagos state put voted for and put their elected officials in office to look out for and protect the people of Lagos state.

Here we have lawless, disorderly and evil people killing Lagosians because of their lawless acts and you think trivial actions like taking away drivers license is equivalent to human life.

The issue of driving against traffic and needless deaths has been around for a long time, it's been in the news and we've seen governors after governors shouting, screaming and pleading to stop driving against traffic, they've stopped to arrest many offenders, but the issue didn't go away because of lack of strong deterrence and stiff penalties.

So, as innocent Nigerians perish on our roads, the only solution and penalty you can come up with is suspending drivers license that they are allowed to reclaim later. This sounds like leadership and competence to you?

In a lot of places around the world, your car gets towed for wrong parking and the last time time I checked, wrong parking is not life threatening like driving against traffic, but wrong parking still gets your car impounded and you have to pay serious fees including impound fees to get it back.

Now, it is not up to the government or law enforcement to determine or even consider who the original owner is, the fact remains that the car and the driver wronged the law, your issue is with the lawless and criminal driver that you hired and gave your car to, that's your own personal responsibility, that's a reflection of your own bad judgement and personal incompetence, it has nothing to do with the law pr the government.

bularuz:


The owner should be tried for murder or manslaughter at the least, selling of accidented or impounded vehicles have no place in law

When you kill people because you drove against the traffic, impounding your car is one of the penalties, kilning people carries more and severe penalties, they don't let you go after impounding your car when you kill people, your car gets taken away and you go to prison for a very very long time.

andycom:


You made a comparison and I gave you a pint of it, all hell broke loose on your tiny brain.

Another question for you. Why is Nigeria and it's unprogressive government still constructing the Same roads every year??

Parting shot. Most elected officials of not all go against the traffic rules once they're on transit I know you support them and they are above the law.

Your comparison was illogical and inapplicable, it's like saying you are allowed to rob a bank because you are poor or because the government did not provide jobs.

What the government is doing or not doing is not an excuse to break the laws.

Are you going to teach your children to break the law and endanger people's lives because the government did this or didn't do that?

Please, reason like a sensible adult.

hush15:


Am with you in obey in the law and protect lives but offenders also we will always have in a country like ours and when we do, what transparent corrective measures do we put in place not this fraudulent ineffective and inefficient that the government is currently executing. What is government doing about traffic decongestion such that we don't sit on the road for several hours without being tempted to do what they don't want! What facilities should government put in place to ensure there is literally no excuse to go one way or break traffic rules? What is government doing to ensure that upholders of the law are not the defaulters of the same law! What is government doing or putting in place to ensure that their officers are doing their jobs with sincerity of purpose and in public interest, not their pockets or abusing the powers vested on them. Even if they are offenders and impounding is their choice, how transparent and accountable are their processes and actions? These are the questions to be answer for a genuine corrective measures.

So I don't support offenders in anyway but even government, I don't trust in anyway. Their actions hasn't changed the way people behave and its till they begin to show integrity till citizens can can show a corresponding reaction or adjustment.

Government's actions or inaction is always questionable and we are all free to criticize the government, but not when the government puts laws in place and enforce laws to protect the people or stand against criminal and lawless elements killing innocent citizens on our road.

This issue has nothing to do with government failures in other areas of governance, protecting, saving lives and enforcing our laws is good governance, this is what we need to encourage and support instead of coming up with unrelated side issues.

wirinet:


I drive in lagos, and in fact have driven in lagos for over 30 years. So I know far more about Lagos traffic problems than you. I was driving in lagos when fines for traffic offenses rose from a few thousand naira to hundreds of thousands of naira. Did that stop or even reduce traffic violations? I was driving in Lagos when mandatory psychiatric evaluation and treatment was imposed on one way driving offenses, Did that stop or even reduce traffic violations? Do you think this new law of auctioning cars that are found driving one way will stop or reduce cars driving way? Your guess is as good as mine.


You don't cure a disease by treating the symptoms while leaving the root cause of the disease. We have serious system issues, which includes lawlessness and impunity by government officials and the elite, corruption at all levels and others. Then there is the problem of terrible roads. Try driving from trade fair to LASU and see the chaos that goes on there everyday.

Until those issues are addressed and thrashed, we will continue to go round in circles.

This law will only further enrich police and LASMA officials.

You don't like the fact that they are impounding cars for driving against traffic, you think it's too severe, you think suspending their drivers license is the answer, but you are here admitting that fines did not reduce traffic violations.

You have a list of government actions that did not reduce traffic violations while at the same time criticizing the government for enforcing traffic laws, saying it's too hash.

You are either speaking from both sides of your mouth or just being needlessly hypocritical.

plaindealer:





When you drive against traffic, people die, sadly.

This lawless and thoughtless woman need to explain to families and victims of these dangerous and reckless drivers why they should not be punished and just receive a slap on the wrist instead.

And do you know how many thousands have died because the govt. refused to fix roads, hospitals etc?
Don't you think that the lawless and thoughtless government need to explain to families and victims of their wicked and selfish acts why they should not be punished?
If your government had put things in order, would people follow one way?

ILuvMerije:


And do you know how many thousands have died because the govt. refused to fix roads, hospitals etc?
Don't you think that the lawless and thoughtless government need to explain to families and victims of their wicked and selfish acts why they should not be punished?
If your government had put things in order, would people follow one way?

So, the government should not enforce the laws put in place to make sure that you don't get killed because of lawless and criminal elements driving against traffic until the government build good roads and give you hospitals?

What kind of backwards thinking is this?

Are the dead people from criminals driving against traffic still driving on our roads and enjoying good hospitals?

Dead people don't drive on good roads or go to the hospital for treatment, this is how ridiculous and absurd you sound.

It is not by force to criticize especially when you are not making any sense.

plaindealer:



Your comparison was illogical and inapplicable, it's like saying you are allowed to rob a bank because you are poor or because the government did not provide jobs.

What the government is doing or not doing is not an excuse to break the laws.

Are you going to teach your children to break the law and endanger people's lives because the government did this or didn't do that?

Please, reason like a sensible adult.

I won't teach my children to do what is not lawful cos I don't do such.

But you left my parting shot cos it hurt you real bad.
Your government has been building the same road since 1960 and no new ones has been built.
Your government officials disregard traffic rules and apply one way everywhere they go, you won't see that one na ordinary citizens will cause accident.
Cry me a river.

andycom:



I won't teach my children to do what is not lawful cos I don't do such.

But you left my parting shot cos it hurt you real bad.
Your government has been building the same road since 1960 and no new ones has been built.
Your government officials disregard traffic rules and apply one way everywhere they go, you won't see that one na ordinary citizens will cause accident.
Cry me a river.

You should have stopped right here.

Obey the law and also teach your children to obey the law.

Disobeying the law because the government did not build this and that road is not an excuse to disobey the law or to kill innocent Nigerian road users.

You are talking from both sides of your mouth.

Just obey the law and support government's efforts to protect and save the lives of your fellow Nigerians.