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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 10:12am On Jan 31, 2021
HedwigesMaduro:
If people read their bibles without preconceived notions they got from movies (always boggles my mind when people use movies in explaining spiritual things) they'll see clearly that the tribulation is BEFORE the rapture.

Those movies have eaten deep into the fabrics of Christianity..

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by God2man2again(m): 10:16am On Jan 31, 2021
Rapture first before tribulations.
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by seunmsg(m): 10:17am On Jan 31, 2021
Mikecold:
Yes o, abdul.

Heaven is for children of God not for slaves

Micheal, I understand your delusion quite well. I was once like you to be honest. But see ehn, rapture won’t happen. Angel Micheal will not blow any damn trumpet and God won’t use billions of people to do suya. God is not a monster that derives pleasure in inhaling burnt human flesh. There is no heaven for children of God and hellfire for slaves. It is all lies. Once you die, that’s the end of your life. Know this truth and know peace.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by sabbiboi: 10:17am On Jan 31, 2021
My concern is how on earth is it possible for a right thinking human, believe he/she is going to pass through a predestined tribulation before transitioning to the great beyond or so called rapture.

Then you need to examine your cognition.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by NekkyCee(f): 10:21am On Jan 31, 2021
Amen. So help us God.
zang:
Dear God at the last day, let me march in with the saints
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by sabbiboi: 10:21am On Jan 31, 2021
seunmsg:


Micheal, I understand your delusion quite well. I was once like you to be honest. But see ehn, rapture won’t happen. Angel Micheal will not blow any damn trumpet and God won’t use billions of people to do suya. God is not a monster that derives pleasure in inhaling burnt human flesh. Once you die, that’s the end of your life. Know this truth and know peace.

This gospel needs to be preached to many that are delusioned

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Nobody: 10:23am On Jan 31, 2021
seunmsg:


Micheal, I understand your delusion quite well. I was once like you to be honest. But see ehn, rapture won’t happen. Angel Micheal will not blow any damn trumpet and God won’t use billions of people to do suya. God is not a monster that derives pleasure in inhaling burnt human flesh. There is no heaven for children of God and hellfire for slaves. It is all lies. Once you die, that’s the end of your life. Know this truth and know peace.
Abdul even the quran agrees that God destroyed the earth with flood with the rainbow as a sign till date (did anybody question him then)

Did anybody question him when he also destroyed Sodom and Gomorah with sulphur which archeologists have certified to be correct in iraq

What would make God a just God if he doesn't reward people according to their deeds

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by ajimo54(m): 10:26am On Jan 31, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation?

This is a topic that appears to be generating a lot of hot debates among Christians presently. I don't think there's much doubt about the rapture taking place, because that's generally agreed upon by Christians to be a certainty. But the bone of contention was when exactly it would take place, if before or after the great tribulation.

I must admit though that this topic is one that I'm not well informed about, because It's not been an area of interest to me. Anyone of them was good enough for me because I was made by Jesus to be prepared at all times for all kinds of situation just as the apostles.

Luke 12:35-40 (KJV)

Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.
Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.


Hence i'm not really concerned if the rapture takes place before or after the great tribulation, because I'm always ready as my loins are girded about and my light is always burning as the Master had instructed. And I believe that ought to be the same for every one of His followers.

However last year I got a rapture dream for the first time in my life. That was sometime in June. Since then I have had two more and one great tribulation dream. The most recent being the rapture dream I just had a few days ago.

It gave me the impression gave that the end was very near, hence people needed to be warned about this so that they can repent and be ready for the rapture.

So although such information may not be of much significance to me, there were yet those who need to aware of such. therefore being God's servant, i was meant to warn them about what was imminent, which explains the rapture dreams I've been receiving.

And that's what I've been doing since. Although repentance has always been a key part of my message, now it's become even more urgent because it seems there's not much time left going by the timing and frequency of the endtime dreams.

For more details on those rapture and great tribulation dreams, you can go to this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6386851/just-woke-up-third-rapture#98508258

I must also admit though, that because of the rapture and tribulation dreams I was now more informed about the rapture than I used to be beforehand, that I intended to share my view about it. However when I realized that i was still not informed enough to give a definite position on that subject, I had to suspend my initial plans, so as not to mislead others.

Therefore it's only when i'm ready for that, i would do so, although as things stand now, I'm more inclined to the position of tribulation before rapture, and that I believe is a safer position to be in the meantime, that may yet change along the way.

But for those who are completely sure of when the rapture would take place, this is an opportunity to convince those of us who aren't if the rapture would take place before or after the great tribulation.

As I said earlier though, regardless, the most important thing is for us to be ready at all times for all possible scenarios as Jesus instructed us to be.

God bless.

Dear OP,

I write to demystify the idea of rapture as a literal thing to take some people to a place for a 1000 years! Those things are fantasies that were once embraced by some poor people who were being deceived by their rich priests who kept on ruling their minds in Asia Minor and later in Europe both Eastern and Western Europe. That was about 400 years ago.

However, OP the narrative is long changed! A lot now know that they have heen deceived! What more do u demand after having lived in this beautyful world for some years and u are still yearning for another place in a non-existing paradise!

Live a good life here and be happy. Enjoy whatever u want for u WILL die one day. Humanity goes no wea! U did not choose ur humanity and u cannot choose any afterlife destiny. Christianity and Islam are the religions that have deceived a lot with eternity! The books are full of old shits with a lot borrowed from ancient wisdom!

You better forget all these fantasies about ur rapture and live a full life b4 u die! U may wish to DM on my email for discussion.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by SonOfTheRisingS: 10:29am On Jan 31, 2021
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by MrNipplesLover(m): 10:32am On Jan 31, 2021
Thank you, Almighty father.



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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by chatinent: 10:34am On Jan 31, 2021
What will those who go to heaven do?
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by wellsaid2: 10:44am On Jan 31, 2021
Rapture is a the LAST TRUMP.. The last thing to happen before total destruction... If you believe the book bible.
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by God2man2again(m): 10:46am On Jan 31, 2021
Righteousness2:
Let no one Deceive or Confuse you.
The next agenda on the Time table is the Snatching away of the Saints otherwise known as The RAPTURE.
It could happen at anymoment!
Everything is Fulfilled!
Be Ready!
Live Ready!

Exactly Bros, I don't understand the tribulations before rapture.

The truth is, eschatology, the study of the last days or the final destination of humanity has to be handled with a lot of caution, it could confuse young believers scripturally, I think it is better we leave this topic and concentrate on our preparedness for heaven.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Image123(m): 10:47am On Jan 31, 2021
The rapture is before the Great Tribulation. Like many have said, the main argument is to be prepared whether before or after.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by DSC7: 10:56am On Jan 31, 2021
Arise, shine for your light is come and the glory of the Lord is risen upon you.
For behold the darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon you and his Glory shall be seen upon you in Jesus name.(Isaiah 60:1-2)...Happy sunday nd remain Blessed.....

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Enceladus(m): 10:59am On Jan 31, 2021
seunmsg:
Christians and their delusions. Tribulation, rapture, hellfire etc are all illogical concepts that were created by cavemen years ago to control the people. That so many people still believe those nonsense in the 21st century is really baffling.


Hmm. Descendant of apes which inturn comes from Catarhinni Monkeys and from Rats which in turn comes from from lizards to fish to bacteria and finally to unicellular life well done.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Ziel20: 11:00am On Jan 31, 2021
On the rapture, I strongly believe its gonna be before the great tribulation.

Some people get confused though because the bible mentioned saints whose blood cried for justice.

Let me point something out. At the time of the rapture, there will be believers who did not ready themselves. Who will be left behind.

Now when the tribulation starts, people will be forced to receive a mark. Some of these believers who are left behind will strongly oppose that in such a way that many will pay for their redemption with their own blood.


They will rather die than take the mark. Taking the mark means that their is no more redemption for you but everlasting damnation.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by bobestman(m): 11:00am On Jan 31, 2021
Christians and Churches that are 99% in error from what they do and teach suddenly want to be transported to heaven as the holy people. Hehehe

Our creator made a convenant with Isreal that He will surely bring them together. They are the chosen people, the true Elect. They are 2 kingdoms scattered since the days of the Messiah (Isreal and Judah). And the mission of the Messiah is to restore the broken 2 houses to be one again. He said he was not sent but to the lost tribes of the house of Isreal but he was cut off(killed) in the process. One of his Disciples asked him "When will thou restore the houses of Isreal" when he was about to ancend after his resurrection. All the prophets talked about the gathering of the people or the broken 2 houses or true elect. You all are of that houses but don't know. All you should be looking for is the lifting of the banner or ensign as spoken by Isaiah the prophet. When it is lifted all the lost children will come back to their ancient land. That's the gathering or reconciliation or restoration of the tribes.Be preaching what you don't know.

The true Christ never went to Church but Temple but when goes there, he goes to reproof or correct the people cos they are all in error. He never prayed with them. All his prayers were done in secret (in bushes) with no one there. This is why his disciples asked him to teach them how to pray. One of the prayer points was that LET THY KINGDOM COME. They have to earnestly seek and pray for the kingdom to come on earth. Hehehe you guys want to transported to heaven that flesh and blood can't live when the true ppl are seeking for the kingdom to come on earth (which I saw myself). Everyone will face the tribulation and it is those who endure till the fire stop dropping that will inherit the kingdom on earth. It is heaven on earth folks!

Your churches were founded by Rome and on alot of lies to decieve the chosen people from doing what the Creator commanded them. This is why the church will be purged via persecution to know those who are worthy. It's not easy. You have not experienced persecution or tried but you want to fly. All those dreams are to warn ppl to seek the ancient path. Vision and dreams are just gifts. Some are true and some are untrue. It doesn't guarantee that one will make it to the kingdom. It's your righteousness and knowing and believing in the true Saviour that will save one
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by DSC7: 11:01am On Jan 31, 2021
God2man2again:


Exactly Bros, I don't understand the tribulations before rapture.

The truth is, eschatology, the study of the last days or the final destination of humanity has to be handled with a lot of caution, it could confuse young believers scripturally, I think it is better we leave this topic and concentrate on our preparedness for heaven.




Watch and pray Always so that you will not be taken unaware.....


So many tribulations yet to be witnessed bfr the rapture.....But death will not allow many witness it but then always be prepared.....

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Jeezuzpick(m): 11:02am On Jan 31, 2021
obonujoker:
Hello bro.

I thought we've always concluded from biblical passages and references that the great tribulation is before rapture of the saints.... Jesus Christ himself specified this in Matthew 24 from vs 31.

Also in the parable of the ten virgins, after the bridegroom came, and the five wise virgins entered, the door was shut... The parable never recorded any second chance for the foolish virgins rather, let's see the bridegroom's reply in
Matthew 25:10-12 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.


From these chapters and verses, a wise child of God should be able to deduce the truth, and shun the left behind movie series and John Darby's erroneous teachings

I will add more scriptures later from St Paul and John the Beloved.

God bless you, Sir!

Darby's teachings are not only erroneous, they are downright dangerous!

Christians will be waiting for rapture and end up accepting the soon coming and well-disguised "socio-economic measure meant to merge an efficient payment system with biometrics aimed at stamping out fraud and terrorism" (a.k.a Mark of the Beast) because men of God that they have idolised have not disappeared.

This teaching will make it too late for many of God's elect if it isn't debunked.

The Word of God does not back up the Pre-Tribulation Rapture teaching, yet it is taught and accepted by all, because we no wan suffer at all!

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by justli: 11:02am On Jan 31, 2021
I think Christians should approach this topic with a sense of humility and discernment. I can imagine how, a lot of people can lose their faith (the great apostacy) if after having waited for rapture, and you are still here to witness the lawlessness of the evil one.

We should be prepared for both possibilities. The Bible said that time will come when you will be killed for your faith and the killer would think he is doing God's work. There is every chance the saints will witness the great tribulation

We have to be prepared to die for our faith if need be. The Bible, in reference to the saints that made it through the great tribulation, said we overcome the devil with the words of testimonies and praises.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by arantess: 11:11am On Jan 31, 2021
Righteousness2:
Let no one Deceive or Confuse you.
The next agenda on the Time table is the Snatching away of the Saints otherwise known as The RAPTURE.
It could happen at anymoment!
Everything is Fulfilled!
Be Ready!
Live Ready!
No sir
There are lots of events yet to happen

Arab israeli war..

Building of third temple

Wormwood(planet x) hasn't come yet...this will bring world wide earthquake and roll clouds( appearance of starts falling from heaven)

The man of sin comes to bring peace to the earth, you call him antichrist

He .makes covenant for 7years and stops the sacrifice in the third temple after 3 n half, sets up abomination of desolation and ask all men to worship him as god

Great tribulation begins but God makes way for people who trust him to escape, most likely to hinterlands..

If those days are not shortened the elect would not make it, so God shortens it and then rapture takes place

They go with Christ for the marriage supper- will last 10 earthly days
During his period there is pouring of God's wrath on earth by the angels with the vials

Marriage feast is over and Jesus comes back(2nd coming, rapture is not) for armageddon and onward millennial reign

Shalom

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Righteousness2(m): 11:14am On Jan 31, 2021
arantess:

No sir
There are lots of events yet to happen

Arab israeli war..

Building of third temple

Wormwood(planet x) hasn't come yet...this will bring world wide earthquake and roll clouds( appearance of starts falling from heaven)

The man of sin comes to bring peace to the earth, you call him antichrist

He .makes covenant for 7years and stops the sacrifice in the third temple after 3 n half, sets up abomination of desolation and ask all men to worship him as god

Great tribulation begins but God makes way for people who trust him to escape, most likely to hinterlands..

If those days are not shortened the elect would not make it, so God shortens it and then rapture takes place

They go with Christ for the marriage supper- will last 10 earthly days
During his period there is pouring of God's wrath on earth by the angels with the vials

Marriage feast is over and Jesus comes back(2nd coming, rapture is not) for armageddon and onward millennial reign

Shalom

Keep Decieving yourself!
Events will be Clear in your eyes soon

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by isan(m): 11:15am On Jan 31, 2021
If rapture is not a scam why are Nigerian pastors buying properties and storing billions in bank and also threaten their members if they refuse to pay tithe? They don't know when rapture will come right? Are they not supposed to live like rapture will come tomorrow? Why gathered all the wealth when rapture will destroy everything anyway ? Or are they just threaten people with rapture just for money ?

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Seytex: 11:16am On Jan 31, 2021
My own is to read comment, the main discussion a no dey read.. is it only me?
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by MrMandilas: 11:20am On Jan 31, 2021
This is a topic that appears to be generating a lot of hot debates among Christians presently. I don't think there's much doubt about the rapture taking place, because that's generally agreed upon by Christians to be a certainty. But the bone of contention was when exactly it would take place, if before or after the great tribulation.

I must admit though that this topic is one that I'm not well informed about, because It's not been an area of interest to me. Anyone of them was good enough for me because I was made by Jesus to be prepared at all times for all kinds of situation just as the apostles.

Luke 12:35-40 (KJV)

Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.
Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.


Hence i'm not really concerned if the rapture takes place before or after the great tribulation, because I'm always ready as my loins are girded about and my light is always burning as the Master had instructed. And I believe that ought to be the same for every one of His followers.

However last year I got a rapture dream for the first time in my life. That was sometime in June. Since then I have had two more and one great tribulation dream. The most recent being the rapture dream I just had a few days ago.

It gave me the impression gave that the end was very near, hence people needed to be warned about this so that they can repent and be ready for the rapture.

So although such information may not be of much significance to me, there were yet those who need to aware of such. therefore being God's servant, i was meant to warn them about what was imminent, which explains the rapture dreams I've been receiving.

And that's what I've been doing since. Although repentance has always been a key part of my message, now it's become even more urgent because it seems there's not much time left going by the timing and frequency of the endtime dreams.

For more details on those rapture and great tribulation dreams, you can go to this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6386851/just-woke-up-third-rapture#98508258

I must also admit though, that because of the rapture and tribulation dreams I was now more informed about the rapture than I used to be beforehand, that I intended to share my view about it. However when I realized that i was still not informed enough to give a definite position on that subject, I had to suspend my initial plans, so as not to mislead others.

Therefore it's only when i'm ready for that, i would do so, although as things stand now, I'm more inclined to the position of tribulation before rapture, and that I believe is a safer position to be in the meantime, that may yet change along the way.

But for those who are completely sure of when the rapture would take place, this is an opportunity to convince those of us who aren't if the rapture would take place before or after the great tribulation.

As I said earlier though, regardless, the most important thing is for us to be ready at all times for all possible scenarios as Jesus instructed us to be.

God bless.[/quote]

Bro. There must be the great tribulation before the rapture. Read the book of Matthew chapter 24 from verse 21 to 29. It clearly states that there must be tribulations before rapture. Read by yourselves. Thank you all. Be prepared

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by LastProphet: 11:26am On Jan 31, 2021
seunmsg:
Christians and their delusions. Tribulation, rapture, hellfire etc are all illogical concepts that were created by cavemen years ago to control the people. That so many people still believe those nonsense in the 21st century is really baffling.


Black people will believe it for another 2-3 million years most likely. Dumbness is the first letter of our DNA

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by mike404(m): 11:26am On Jan 31, 2021
obonujoker:


Bro... Find a day, and try to read book of Revelations again....


However what matters most is whenever the rapture comes, we should make it....
WHERE IS ATHEIST KOBOJUNKIEE
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Jeezuzpick(m): 11:28am On Jan 31, 2021
seunmsg:


Micheal, I understand your delusion quite well. I was once like you to be honest. But see ehn, rapture won’t happen. Angel Micheal will not blow any damn trumpet and God won’t use billions of people to do suya. God is not a monster that derives pleasure in inhaling burnt human flesh. There is no heaven for children of God and hellfire for slaves. It is all lies. Once you die, that’s the end of your life. Know this truth and know peace.

Congrats!

Enjoy the peace you've chosen and kindly leave us to enjoy ours.

Just......don't post. Go to Silhouette Challenge or something.

Believe me, it's not a hard thing to do.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by DSC7: 11:32am On Jan 31, 2021
Ziel20:
On the rapture, I strongly believe its gonna be before the great tribulation.

Some people get confused though because the bible mentioned saints whose blood cried for justice.

Let me point something out. At the time of the rapture, there will be believers who did not ready themselves. Who will be left behind.

Now when the tribulation starts, people will be forced to receive a mark. Some of these believers who are left behind will strongly oppose that in such a way that many will pay for their redemption with their own blood.


They will rather die than take the mark. Taking the mark means that their is no more redemption for you but everlasting damnation.


Those that refused to take the mark what will become their fate after death
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by BrosTem(m): 11:35am On Jan 31, 2021
The elect of God will not go through The great Tribulation. It is the Jews that'll pass thru The great Tribulation becos it is a cleansing time for them; and that is also when the gospel of Jesus Christ will be preached to them.

Also note that just before the Antichrist will be manifested, the rapture will take place...the elect will not witness the last 3¹/² years of the Antichrist reign (which is also the period of the Great Tribulation).

The period of The Great Tribulation is between the Jews, the Antichrist and the People of the Antichrist.
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by staga: 11:37am On Jan 31, 2021
seunmsg:
Christians and their delusions. Tribulation, rapture, hellfire etc are all illogical concepts that were created by cavemen years ago to control the people. That so many people still believe those nonsense in the 21st century is really baffling.


So why are you commenting here? Rapture is for Christians and not for people like you. Go to your atheists thread and leave the people of God alone!

I do not understand they way some of you think. Mr and Mrs Okeke and their kids are discussing where they will spend their vacation. You are in your own house trying to think for them how to spend their vacation. Are you the one providing the money, or the plane, or are you the one devising the plans for them?

You are not a Christian and yet you think you should have an opinion about matters concerning Christians.

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