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The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:11am On Jan 31
The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation?

This is a topic that appears to be generating a lot of hot debates among Christians presently. I don't think there's much doubt about the rapture taking place, because that's generally agreed upon by Christians to be a certainty. But the bone of contention was when exactly it would take place, if before or after the great tribulation.

I must admit though that this topic is one that I'm not well informed about, because It's not been an area of interest to me. Anyone of them was good enough for me because I was made by Jesus to be prepared at all times for all kinds of situation just as the apostles.

Luke 12:35-40 (KJV)

Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning;
And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.
Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.

And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through.
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.


Hence i'm not really concerned if the rapture takes place before or after the great tribulation, because I'm always ready as my loins are girded about and my light is always burning as the Master had instructed. And I believe that ought to be the same for every one of His followers.

However last year I got a rapture dream for the first time in my life. That was sometime in June. Since then I have had two more and one great tribulation dream. The most recent being the rapture dream I just had a few days ago.

It gave me the impression gave that the end was very near, hence people needed to be warned about this so that they can repent and be ready for the rapture.

So although such information may not be of much significance to me, there were yet those who need to aware of such. therefore being God's servant, i was meant to warn them about what was imminent, which explains the rapture dreams I've been receiving.

And that's what I've been doing since. Although repentance has always been a key part of my message, now it's become even more urgent because it seems there's not much time left going by the timing and frequency of the endtime dreams.

For more details on those rapture and great tribulation dreams, you can go to this thread:

https://www.nairaland.com/6386851/just-woke-up-third-rapture#98508258

I must also admit though, that because of the rapture and tribulation dreams I was now more informed about the rapture than I used to be beforehand, that I intended to share my view about it. However when I realized that i was still not informed enough to give a definite position on that subject, I had to suspend my initial plans, so as not to mislead others.

Therefore it's only when i'm ready for that, i would do so, although as things stand now, I'm more inclined to the position of tribulation before rapture, and that I believe is a safer position to be in the meantime, that may yet change along the way.

But for those who are completely sure of when the rapture would take place, this is an opportunity to convince those of us who aren't if the rapture would take place before or after the great tribulation.

As I said earlier though, regardless, the most important thing is for us to be ready at all times for all possible scenarios as Jesus instructed us to be.

God bless.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by zang(m): 1:47am On Jan 31
Dear God at the last day, let me march in with the saints

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 4:14am On Jan 31
Hello bro.

I thought we've always concluded from biblical passages and references that the great tribulation is before rapture of the saints.... Jesus Christ himself specified this in Matthew 24 from vs 31.

Also in the parable of the ten virgins, after the bridegroom came, and the five wise virgins entered, the door was shut... The parable never recorded any second chance for the foolish virgins rather, let's see the bridegroom's reply in
Matthew 25:10-12 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.


From these chapters and verses, a wise child of God should be able to deduce the truth, and shun the left behind movie series and John Darby's erroneous teachings

I will add more scriptures later from St Paul and John the Beloved.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 4:49am On Jan 31
Also many people think the great tribulation of the saints is God's wrath on Earth.

Many people also said the left behind people will pay with their blood... Lol... Which blood??

There's only one blood that God accepts.

The fear of many people is that they are afraid to die for Christ, shows you they aren't ready to follow Christ after all.

God has a plan for Everything during the great tribulation, many people will be saved by God.

Revelation chapter 6,7 and 8, shows and explains the events of the great tribulation before rapture (removal of God people), before the wrath of God (Rev cool falls on the Antichrist.

Revelation 19 gives a summary of the whole event

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by jesusjnr2020(m): 5:25am On Jan 31
obonujoker:
Hello bro.

I thought we've always concluded from biblical passages and references that the great tribulation is before rapture of the saints.... Jesus Christ himself specified this in Matthew 24 from vs 31.

Also in the parable of the ten virgins, after the bridegroom came, and the five wise virgins entered, the door was shut... The parable never recorded any second chance for the foolish virgins rather, let's see the bridegroom's reply in
Matthew 25:10-12 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.


From these chapters and verses, a wise child of God should be able to deduce the truth, and shun the left behind movie series and John Darby's erroneous teachings

I will add more scriptures later from St Paul and John the Beloved.
Hi bro. I haven't concluded oh. From my first rapture dream it appeared we escaped the great tribulation, because it was after we were teleported from the danger zone to somewhere safe I suppose, that the devil appeared, which probably signified the beginning of his time to reign. So I thought it was before the great tribulation, but when I checked a place in the Bible where Jesus spoke of the rapture, it seemed to contradict it.

Later i saw where Jesus spoke of being worthy to escape these things. So what things was He speaking about if not the great tribulations?

So I haven't still gotten it oh. I'm still in the process of doing so that's why I can't take any firm position now, even though anyone was fine with me.

God bless.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 5:27am On Jan 31
jesusjnr2020:
Hi bro. I haven't concluded oh. From my first rapture dream it appeared we escaped the great tribulation, because it was after we were teleported from the danger zone to somewhere safe I suppose, that the devil appeared, which probably signified the beginning of his time to reign. So I thought it was before the great tribulation, but when I checked a place in the Bible where Jesus spoke of the rapture, it seemed to contradict it.

Later i saw where Jesus spoke of being worthy to escape these things. So what things was He speaking about if not the great tribulations?

So I haven't still gotten it oh. I'm still in the process of doing so that's why I can't take any firm position now, even though anyone was fine with me.

God bless.

Bro... Find a day, and try to read book of Revelations again....


However what matters most is whenever the rapture comes, we should make it....

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by jesusjnr2020(m): 5:37am On Jan 31
obonujoker:


Bro... Find a day, and try to read book of Revelations again....


However what matters most is whenever the rapture comes, we should make it....
This is the verse I was speaking of:

Luke 21:36 (KJV)

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

So could you give your view of what Jesus was speaking of here?

You're right about the bolded though, but I would advice that people prepare for the great tribulations just in case, because I believe thay anyone who does so would be able to make it both. But I doubt that those who only prepare for the rapture would.

God bless.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 5:56am On Jan 31
jesusjnr2020:
This is the verse I was speaking of:

Luke 21:36 (KJV)

Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

So could you give your view of what Jesus was speaking of here?

You're right about the bolded though, but I would advice that people prepare for the great tribulations just in case, because I believe thay anyone who does so would be able to make it both. But I doubt that those who only prepare for the rapture would.

God bless.

As per the colored, I believe God will be there for his people... The Bible never said all will die during Satan's persecution, infact people will still be eating and drinking etc...

Christ already told us not to fear the devil, but fear God's anger (which we won't see or experience as children of God)

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:05am On Jan 31
obonujoker:


As per the colored, I believe God will be there for his people... The Bible never said all will die during Satan's persecution, infact people will still be eating and drinking etc...

Christ already told us not to fear the devil, but fear God's anger (which we won't see or experience as children of God)
I think you get my point. It's not clear cut. That's why i want to ensure that i get it right before taking a stand. Thanks and God bless.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 6:12am On Jan 31
jesusjnr2020:
I think you get my point. It's not clear cut. Thanks.

Welcomed... Follow the thread on my next reply by AlBaghdadi

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 6:12am On Jan 31
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Nobody: 6:14am On Jan 31
embarassed embarassed Tales by delusional stone aged humans.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by obonujoker(m): 6:23am On Jan 31

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by AntiChristian: 7:20am On Jan 31
grin

Person dey see things o!
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:57am On Jan 31
zang:
Dear God at the last day, let me march in with the saints
Amen!

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Righteousness2(m): 8:27am On Jan 31
Let no one Deceive or Confuse you.
The next agenda on the Time table is the Snatching away of the Saints otherwise known as The RAPTURE.
It could happen at anymoment!
Everything is Fulfilled!
Be Ready!
Live Ready!

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by emmabest2000(m): 8:53am On Jan 31
Rapture has been happening on daily basis
Death is everyone's Rapture
Whenever someone die his or her own Rapture take place,

But if you are still alive and has been waiting for the day ANGEL Michael will blow his trumpet � and you start fly on the air like birds
You go wait tire grin

The message in the Bible about Rapture is a proverbs !!!!

Meanwhile to all Roman Catholic members
Ave..... Maria

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by HighWITCH: 9:49am On Jan 31
Rapture kor...Capture ni. grin grin
Concepts that others have created to control society is what you have turned yourself to its slave. Mtchew.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by HedwigesMaduro(m): 9:52am On Jan 31
If people read their bibles without preconceived notions they got from movies (always boggles my mind when people use movies in explaining spiritual things) they'll see clearly that the tribulation is BEFORE the rapture.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by HedwigesMaduro(m): 9:56am On Jan 31
jesusjnr2020:
Hi bro. I haven't concluded oh. From my first rapture dream it appeared we escaped the great tribulation, because it was after we were teleported from the danger zone to somewhere safe I suppose, that the devil appeared, which probably signified the beginning of his time to reign. So I thought it was before the great tribulation, but when I checked a place in the Bible where Jesus spoke of the rapture, it seemed to contradict it.

Later i saw where Jesus spoke of being worthy to escape these things. So what things was He speaking about if not the great tribulations?

So I haven't still gotten it oh. I'm still in the process of doing so that's why I can't take any firm position now, even though anyone was fine with me.

God bless.

What Jesus spoke of we escaping is God's wrath (which people have decided to confuse with the great tribulation).
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by MacMkboy(m): 10:07am On Jan 31
Whether pre-tribulation, in-between tribulation or post-tribulation rapture, the most important thing is that you should always be ready. Always pray for grace to be ready whenever your time comes, if Jesus tarries.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by seunmsg(m): 10:08am On Jan 31
Christians and their delusions. Tribulation, rapture, hellfire etc are all illogical concepts that were created by cavemen years ago to control the people. That so many people still believe those nonsense in the 21st century is really baffling.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Mikecold: 10:08am On Jan 31
Sha be in terms with Christ because you don't know when you might die

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by GreaterFuture3: 10:08am On Jan 31
Hmmn
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by BassReeves: 10:08am On Jan 31
BassReeves:
1. How long biblically speaking, is a generation?
2. Does the word 'rapture' appear in the original text of the Bible?
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by BlowYourMind: 10:09am On Jan 31
ok
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by UncleKoboko: 10:10am On Jan 31
grin

Rapture kọ,. Rap song ni


Your rapture and judgement day is the day you die!

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by mynd4409: 10:10am On Jan 31
Lol you are waiting for rapture so that you fit japa enter space cool

You're not going anywhere o

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by tobechi74: 10:11am On Jan 31
We are so concerned about the future that we forget to live in the presence. We cannot change rapture if at all it will take place in our generation. Why not focus on what you have control over and stop unnecessary worry about things we lack power

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Nobody: 10:11am On Jan 31
Always summarize people no get time
Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by cooltola(m): 10:11am On Jan 31
Whether rapture happens or not in our lifetime, our goal is to please God. What gospel does your life speak?

Matthew 5:14-16
New International Version
14 “You are the light of the world.(A) A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.(B) 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others,(C) that they may see your good deeds(D) and glorify(E) your Father in heaven.

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Re: The Rapture: Before Or After The Great Tribulation? by Mikecold: 10:11am On Jan 31
seunmsg:
Our Christian people and rapture.
Yes o, abdul.

Heaven is for children of God not for slaves

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