Myer:


Righteousness simply put is doing what is right.

Prosperity gospel is simply preaching the gospel for gain. 1 Timothy 6 expounds more on this.

You need English tutor. Happy Sunday!

Myer:




Winners preaches prosperity without preaching much of righteousness..

which branches of winners chapel do u attends that preaches only prosperity to u? Cos winners' members are very rich does not mean they only preach prosperity oga.

Wonder why u guys always thinks winners only preaches prosperity.

MaxInDHouse:
The first generation of Politicians that took over from the white started well until political religionists came with their ideologies ~
"Give your life to God and get back double fold"
So our people began dropping what they supposed to do (work) and going to church only to donate their life savings for Political religionists like Mr David.

All the industries were shut down replaced with Churches and Schools so that Nigeria has nothing to exchange with other nations as crops then our people began looking up to the sky!
Our children went to Schools only to come out and find out that there is no jobs for them, they can either teach or serve in hotels or sell their bodies as prostitutes.
So change starts with each of us as we invest in double fold, stop building event centers, churches and schools, these ventures doesn't make any meaningful exchange so nothing can change!

You well so?

Standing5:
You need English tutor. Happy Sunday!

In what aspect please?
I'm guessing you're a winners member, right?

Myer:


In what aspect please?
I'm guessing you're a winners member, right?

Your definition of prosperity lacks sense both grammatically and logically.

RALPHOW:

Lazy Youth?
Where and when did you carried out the research?
Research shows that minimum 70% of all the students in Kingdom Heritages (Primary Schools), Faith Academy (secondary school), Landmark and Covenant Universities are all WINNERS.
Talking about tithe, if you used your brain , you will understand that the remaining 90% are in the hands of church members who are WINNERS.
Jealousy will just kill you guys, your fathers are using your money to sponsor terrorist, while our father is using our money to build good schools for our children thereby create better future for them.
I never heard any British complained that footballers pays is the reason of government failure, Bishop Oyedepo never hold public office.

I thought you were stupid initially.

I didn't know stupidity was you.

Aj1944:
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And who told you that his church members can't afford it?

Don't mind them. They have no idea the wealth is in the hands of the church now. Those days of "as poor as a church rat" is gone for good. Most Christians who know their inheritance and follow Holy Spirit inspired instructions are having a good life. The low lifes out there refusing to come in think everyone is having same experience with them. Far from the truth. My advice is for them to come in, taste and see that "The Lord is good". Despite the economies of the nations in which believers reside, we are always experiencing the supernatural provisions of God's Kingdom that we actually belong to. We are here in this world but we are not of this world. We are from a Higher Kingdom. We are of God. 1John 4:4 tells us, Little children...Ye are of God(meaning you belong to God) and you have defeated/overcome them...the agents of the anti christ, because, greater is He that's in you, than he that's in the world.

edoairways:

That is a big lie

Brush up your poor communication skills. Next time please say “that is incorrect” or “that is not true”.

Don’t call people a liar unless you know them and they have lied to you.

Ok, my question is what is untrue about the statement I made?

lexy2014:


Did u ask oyedepo before u said govt& d general public are one& d same?

Is it oyedepo that said govt& d general public are one& d same?

Yaba left, go and get your healing

Myer:


I've been to Ota headqiarters atleast twice sir and visited various other parishes/centres too.
The message is centered on prosperity, obedience in serving God and of course evangelism.

I simply let you know that whenever prosperity is exalted over righteousness, prosperity by any means always wins.

Which is why the Bible categorically says that the Love of money is the root of all evil.
That it is impossible to serve two masters, you'll either choose God or Mammon (prosperity).

Likewise Jesus told his disciples that it is impossible for a rich man to make heaven just like a cattle making it into the eye of a needle. Though he added that but with God anything is possible.

I'm letting you know basically that you that while the bible is not against prosperity, 3 John:1:2.
When you prioritize prosperity over righteousness, the love of money often takes over.

You can lie against your father walahi...


Bishop Oyedepo never exalts prosperity over righteousness


A no-nonsense preacher that is so strict with issues of corrupt practices is the one you are describing like this

...have you even ever listen to his messages....


You are a pathetic liar..chai

Samade7:




which branches of winners chapel do u attends that preaches only prosperity to u? Cos winners' members are very rich does not mean they only preach prosperity oga.

Wonder why u guys always thinks winners only preaches prosperity.

Ota sir, that was the headquarters last time I checked. Although I'm not sure anymore since I heard a new structure is being built.

That said, you need to understand the subtlety of the message of righteousness being preached.

Yes, the word righteousness may have been mentioned in the course of the message but were the actions that define righteousness enumerated?

Not once will you hear,
Do not lie
Do not steal
Do not fornicate
Do not covet another man's belongings, etc

Because as far as they're concerned Righteousness simply means believing in God just like Abraham.
It does not matter the level of sin you commit as long as you believe in God and Jesus, you're righteous and you cannot commit sin.lol

leye4u:


You can lie against your father walahi...


Bishop Oyedepo never exalts prosperity over righteousness


A no-nonsense preacher that is so strict with issues of corrupt practices is the one you are describing like this

...have you even ever listen to his messages....


You are a pathetic liar..chai

Before I posted this comment, I googled his messages on righteousness just to be sure.

Please prove me wrong.

I'm not saying he's not a strict man. After all even unbelievers are very strict when it comes to their homes and businesses.

I'm simply focusing on his messages.

Antoeni:
You are also part of Nigeria problem building churches no factories

He builds us through God's word so we can build factories.

Myer:


Ota sir, that was the headquarters last time I checked. Although I'm not sure anymore since I heard a new structure is being built.

That said, you need to understand the subtlety of the message of righteousness being preached.

Yes, the word righteousness may have been mentioned in the course of the message but were the actions that define righteousness enumerated?

Not once will you hear,
Do not lie
Do not steal
Do not fornicate
Do not covet another man's belongings, etc

Because as far as they're concerned Righteousness simply means believing in God just like Abraham.
It does not matter the level of sin you commit as long as you believe in God and Jesus, you're righteous and you cannot commit sin.lol

Winners usually have unique message accross all the branches............it solely depends on the person handling the message as per a branch is concerned.

If u usually attend winners very well, u will understand how it works there..............One of the churches that fast, pray and teaches about holiness is winners chapel. go and confirm.

I am sorry to burst your bubbles but all you state there have nothing to do with Righteousness. It seems even your Mog does not himself know what God means when it comes to righteousness.

Let me give you a clue at to what it refers to. In Matthew 5, Jesus Christ said that blessed are those who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

Then in Mathew 5, Jesus Christ explicitly states that only those who Feed His Sheep(give them food when they are hungry, drink when they are thirsty) and Take care of His Sheep( cloth them when they are naked, home them when they are homeless, care for them when they are sick and visit them when they are in prison) will enter into His Kingdom.

Hope that helps your understanding of what it is the righteous do versus your list there given you by your Mog.

By the way, why does your MOg list the laws from the Old Covenant when Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, is the one who defines that which is sin for His followers?

Does your Mog not know that the Old Covenant has nothing to do with anyone who is not of the blood of Jacob and does not live in the land of Canaan?

Why does not MOG not know that Jesus Christ Himself warned His followers against trying to have one foot in the Old and the other in the New because that renders meaningless their worship and nullifies the power of God in the lives of those who adopt such deceit in His name?

Here's a question for you. Are you sure it is Jesus Christ that you indeed trust in or the doctrines and traditions of your Mog there? Jesus Christ warned you against serving two masters... You either love one and hate the other.

Jesus Christ also warned you against following of blind teachers, who will only lead their blind followers to fall into the same ditch which they do at the end.

blackpanda:


It's a call to serve not a call to enrichment at the expense of poor followers. When will u guys ever wake up

you are ignorant a call to serve who and who enriches at expense of the poor followers.let me tell you no one that serves God should be poor.if people that serve satan are blessed by satan talkless of people that serve God.if pastors are rich and the something they pepper you for body as a satan pikin reject satan and join the workforce of God to be wealthy.i repeat no pastor should be poor,if any pastor is poor that person is not call by God read all the verses in the bible everyone of them that served God was never poor.i dont even get the point most of you mofos make sometimes the God that call those pastors is a wealthy God so while will the pastors be poor.just imagine if buhari just call you to serve under this his government no matter the level of poverty you are wallowing now you can never be poor again.so use that medium to think of God calling pastors they cant be poor knowing that the God that called them is wealthy.so think and stop getting bad that pastors are rich.

Standing5:
You need English tutor. Happy Sunday!

Let's help him instead.

Freestainworld:
After schooling, where will the graduates work? school is good, but we need more of industries where people can be gainfully employed, our graduates are too numerous on the streets doing nothing.

You can build where the graduates will work too. The pastors have done what they can.

Myer:


Righteousness simply put is doing what is right.

Prosperity gospel is simply preaching the gospel for gain. 1 Timothy 6 expounds more on this.

My friend, that's a lame definition of righteousness. Righteousness means right standing with God. The state of being seen by God to be correct. Now, that tells you God is the Judge of that and is solely dependent on what He Says is correct or incorrect.

That leads you to the topic; The Righteousness of God, in other words, the Rightness of God. Now, the Rightness of God IS NOT A STATE OF CORRECTNESS OF THINGS BUT A POWER. It means God's Supernatural Ability to be right/correct. That is independent of what any creature thinks. For instance, if God says a car is a tree, He is Right/Correct because the car becomes a tree. Rightness is what God says it is because as the scripture has said, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO LIE.

So, even if what God says in human terms seems to be a lie, IT BECOMES THE TRUTH. God is truth. His Word is truth. Let GOD BE TRUE and all men liars. In the case of Abraham, God called him a father of many nations. In the natural, logical sense, that statement was a lie, but what did Abraham become? That's the reason it was said that "Abraham BELIEVED God and it was accounted/reckoned/recorded to him AS RIGHTEOUSNESS/RIGHT STANDING WITH GOD.

So you see, for simply believing God, the state of being correct/right or right standing with God was TRANSFERRED TO HIS ACCOUNT/GIVEN AS A GIFT TO ABRAHAM.

Therefore, contrary to your definition, righteousness which is right standing with God can't be attained by just doing what's right or following some moral routine. It can only be gotten as a GIFT from God. That's why Jesus Christ emphasized in John3 to that pharisee, who had kept all the moral rules/routine that HE'S GOT TO BE BORN A(SECOND TIME)GAIN.

That second birth comes by BELIEVING GOD...that's believing the Lord Jesus Christ in your heart and confessing same with your mouth..."for with the heart, MAN BELIEVETH UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation. Rom 10:10 The Amplified puts it this way; " For with the heart a person believes (adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Christ) and so is justified (declared righteous, acceptable to God), and with the mouth he confesses (declares openly and speaks out freely his faith) and confirms [his] salvation."

When you believe, righteousness is given to you as a gift and you'd naturally produce good works or the things God considers right/correct because rightness is exclusively God's prerogative.

Captain8:
poor members in his church cant afford his high fees schools... instead of helping the poor with the billions he wasted and wasting on private jets, baba is busy enjoying more than presidents..and poor dey die dey go.. this wha Jesus hate the most.. anti Jesus pastors.

Lol.

Standing5:
You need English tutor. Happy Sunday!

You need an English tutor. Happy Sunday!

Crooked pastor.

Antoeni:
You are also part of Nigeria problem building churches no factories

So what about the 2 universities , 118 primary and secondary schools spread across the country, and over 20,000 churches in Nigeria, is it not human beings that are working in all these places?

You better look elsewhere to channel your grievances.

Or did you give money to Oyedepo to keep for you?

Blame your president, governor, senators you queued in the sun to elect for your woes.

The church is not registered to go into manufacturing business, can't you get it?

Antoeni:
WHEN THE CHURCH BECOMES A BUSINESS

1) Pastors function like CEOs
2) Members are turned into customers
3) Other churches are seen as competitions
4) Evangelism is reduced to marketing
5) Church planting looks more like franchising.

6) Numbers are primary measure of success
7) Prayer and Word study are replaced by formulas
Revival is reduced to a few days fund-raising
program
9) Preaching sounds more like motivational speech. All the people do is shout "I receive, Amen," throughout the concert. I mean the "service".

10) Praise and Worship is turned into a
performance. The best actors are made the worship and praise leaders.
11) The Spirit of God is reduced to "emotionalism". No real power of God other than hypnosis and sensationalism.

12) The saints are entertained instead of equipped
13) Disciples of Christ have become papa's sons, daughters and fans.
14) The Church, a living Body has now become a lifeless body
15) A leader's empire is built instead of the
Kingdom of God advanced
16) The pastor becomes the super man and Jesus Christ reduced to just another religious figure.

No 17. you never said anything about deir private jet...

Henrydonland:
stupid men of God,talking as if they care if Nigerians are suffering.

This oyedepo of a man is ranked among the richest pastors in the world with private jets and do on with a university that is expensive as hell.

How can a man of God be that rich.

please pray for God forgiveness and also pray for wisdom cus i can see that u lack it

Myer:


You have to wonder what they're teaching cos even the graduates Covenant is churning out are part of the problem instead of being part of the solution.

Winners preaches prosperity without preaching much of righteousness.
When you exalt prosperity over virtues of righteousness, you can be sure that your followers will do anything to gain that prosperity even committing sins that unbelievers won't.

The irony with Christianity is that a unbeliever believes he is committing sin when we steals but a Grace and Prosperity preaches have taught their followers that even if they steal, it is not a sin because Christ has paid for all their sins.

At the end of the day, Christians who should be part of the solution have become more of the problem.

Interestingly you can't blame this pastors because there are Bible verses that support this claim, mostly John and Paul's epistles.

If only Christianity had continued the way the missionaries introduced it to Nigeria, clearly, the Nigeria we have today would be the most prosperous nation in the would but unfortunately the reverse is the case.

Both Christians and Muslims are robbing the Nations and dry and the masses are to suffer for it. Although directly or indirectly the elites are also suffering from this insecure and undder-developrd country they've created.

You don't deserve my response.

ibedun:


The church is a registered social entity soliciting money from the congregation. The congregation are members of the public!!!! Too hard for your brain to understand?

So this is your definition of the church...Hmmmmm

kmaster007:
No 17. you never said anything about deir private jet...

All I see in 1 - 17 is ignorance, which I feel should be ignored. Ignorance is indeed a disease.

Mabizeka:
Your churches in the US pays taxes over there but you don't pay it in Nigeria. why?

Shouldn’t u ask the government why they are not taxing religious houses...will he pay for tax that has not been established .....

Btw....u don’t have to lie to make a point.... Churches don’t pay tax in the United States, Uk etc..below is the US tax law on exemption if u want to see..::it’s just 40 pages


https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf

Henrydonland:
stupid men of God,talking as if they care if Nigerians are suffering.

This oyedepo of a man is ranked among the richest pastors in the world with private jets and do on with a university that is expensive as hell.

How can a man of God be that rich.

you are a complete dump ass so the man of God cant be rich but the son of satan can be rich abi.most of you guys have the mind of satan seriously in this country.God created everything and owns the wealth the world is using.let me tell you the wealth of this world is for Gods people not for satan children.if its peppering you why pastors are rich please join then and serve the Lord,not being on one side and asking why they are rich.the God that called them is wealthy simple they are not meant to be poor.inshort any pastor that is not wealth is not called by God

stancydg:


My friend, that's a lame definition of righteousness. Righteousness means right standing with God. The state of being seen by God to be correct. Now, that tells you God is the Judge of that and is solely dependent on what He Says is correct or incorrect.

That leads you to the topic; The Righteousness of God, in other words, the Rightness of God. Now, the Rightness of God IS NOT A STATE OF CORRECTNESS OF THINGS BUT A POWER. It means God's Supernatural Ability to be right/correct. That is independent of what any creature thinks. For instance, if God says a car is a tree, He is Right/Correct because the car becomes a tree. Rightness is what God says it is because as the scripture has said, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD TO LIE.

So, even if what God says in human terms seems to be a lie, IT BECOMES THE TRUTH. God is truth. His Word is truth. Let GOD BE TRUE and all men liars. In the case of Abraham, God called him a father of many nations. In the natural, logical sense, that statement was a lie, but what did Abraham become? That's the reason it was said that "Abraham BELIEVED God and it was accounted/reckoned/recorded to him AS RIGHTEOUSNESS/RIGHT STANDING WITH GOD.

So you see, for simply believing God, the state of being correct/right or right standing with God was TRANSFERRED TO HIS ACCOUNT/GIVEN AS A GIFT TO ABRAHAM.

Therefore, contrary to your definition, righteousness which is right standing with God can't be attained by just doing what's right or following some moral routine. It can only be gotten as a GIFT from God. That's why Jesus Christ emphasized in John3 to that pharisee, who had kept all the moral rules/routine that HE'S GOT TO BE BORN A(SECOND TIME)GAIN.

That second birth comes by BELIEVING GOD...that's believing the Lord Jesus Christ in your heart and confessing same with your mouth..."for with the heart, MAN BELIEVETH UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation. Rom 10:10 The Amplified puts it this way; " For with the heart a person believes (adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Christ) and so is justified (declared righteous, acceptable to God), and with the mouth he confesses (declares openly and speaks out freely his faith) and confirms [his] salvation."

When you believe, righteousness is given to you as a gift and you'd naturally produce good works or the things God considers right/correct because rightness is exclusively God's prerogative.

Thanks for confirming exactly what I said.

As long as you're in right standing with God by believing in God and Jesus Christ, you are righteousness and can no longer commit any sin.

This is the gospel that has destroyed not only Nigeria but the world at large.

When Christians believe they can get away with any sin, tell me why we should expect Christians not to steal, lie, fornicate, commit adultery, and commit every evil even unbelievers won't?

kmaster007:
No 17. you never said anything about deir private jet...

All I see in 1 - 17 is ignorance, which I feel should be ignored. Ignorance is indeed a disease.

If there are things you don't understand about the church, you ask instead of running your mouth.